Ice Axe Arrest after a tumble
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- From Day1 of our Winter Skills Course. Learning how to Ice Axe arrest is crucial, especially when it may have taken you by surprise! Here is Rich (course leader) demonstrating how to do it...perfectly.
Oh wow a self arrest video where the person actually knows what to do. Rare.
It looks quite far from „being prepared”, remember you usually have about 3 second from falling to braking. Good practice nevertheless.
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did the axe go to jail after the arrest?
Oof lol
Self arrest takes citizens arrest to a whole new level. The axe just turned itself in.
have my child
@@TheGhjgjgjgjgjg a bit unexpected, but ok
Dad jokes
I have guided and instructed on ice and snow for decades.
Practice more , try it on your back head first down hill. You're stimulating being pull off your feet down the hill. Jam the pick of the Ice axe into the ice without rolling over yet, this creates drag and will enable you to swing body onto the ice axe shaft, even with a very heavy pack. When you've gotten on top of the ice axe attempt to kick your toes into the snow/ice forming a tripod. This put more pressure on the pick of the Ice axe and will slow the fall more rapidly, giving you more control in arresting your climbing teams fall.
nice. thanks for the lesson
I was falling down a very steep run the other day skiing and had to use my ski poles as I yelled, "Self Arrest" like falcon punch.
I want to try this. Looks like a lot of fun.
I do too lmfao
Is having your feet up off the surface intentional? Seems like it might be a way to keep your body oriented uphill.
With any Ice Axe arrest position we teach the idea of keeping the feet off the floor as if you're wearing crampons and they catch you could cause a lot of damage to yourself. I had a client whose friend bum-slid down a mountain with their crampons on and they broke their femur as they caught on something! Ouch!
Your feet provide the stopping power in loose snow conditions not the pick. The ice axe is actually what provides the orienting force, it’s like fletchings providing directional drag on an arrow or dart. If you stop yourself before you get going you are not going to break your legs. With this technique you might just keep going until you hit a very abrupt stop!
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@@Melanie-Shea in loose snow it's hard to generate a proper slide. In such circumstances you would even bring your arms together to act as a scoop to slow you down.
The essence of my point still stands, we teach people to keep their feet up so if they're wearing crampons and they catch they don't cause major injury. This stuff has to be second nature as it all happens so fast, so on that basis, feet up!
Self arresting has saved my life, it's the reason why I don't use the wrist loops on my ski poles.
May the algorithm bless you
Thx for the lesson
Would be awesome to know the reason/explanation of this process! Edit: obviously he's sticking his pick in the ice to stop himself; I meant more so like what's the most efficient way to do so and what are the best techniques in order to save yourself as fast as possible. Seems like he lays his entire upper body weight into the pick, just wondering if anyone knows more of the science behind this, instead of some nonsensical response like, "he's stopping himself with an axe"
You will keep falling/sliding to your death if you dont break the fall with the ice axe
Ice is slippery. Sometimes so slippery or hard that yer crampons can’t get good purchase. If you aren’t roped up, or your anchors/partners fail to arrest your fall your last hope of not dying is that ice axe.
The idea of an ice axe is that it holds you by putting an enormous amount of weight on the small tip, causing a whole load of friction as it digs in. By holding himself 'up' on the pick, he's putting the most amount of weight he can on the tip, making it most effective in digging in and generating the most friction. In comparison, hanging below the ice axe would mean that the majority of his weight is on the ice/snow, not the axe, so the axe would be less effective.
I'm no expert but I'd guess that this is the preferred method for two reasons. One, you put most of your weight on the axe this way, and two, it is less likely you lose your grip of the axe by having it close to your body like this.
@@cryx4 thank you! Now that makes a lot of sense and is exactly the sort of extra mechanical science that I was looking for!
Will come in useful next time I am on Shooters Hill after heavy snowfall.
Self arrest is rarely, if ever needed in fresh snow. It's called an ice axe for a reason, generally speaking self arrest is more common in steep hardback snow or glacier travel.
@@TheCariboucanuck Merci David. 100% correct.
nice good ❤
Cardiac arrest.
Cool.
It’s basic physics.
Ice arrest is impossible on K2 once you fall .