Before the EU allow us to rejoin we need to put things in place before that. Like PR. If Labour don't make a difference to people's lives in the next 12 months they are going to lose so much support that they will not make that 2nd term when they are supposed to be going to deal with 'other stuff' and neither will they have the massive majority to push policies through. They need to forget about "balancing the books". That only matters to the right wing media. Ordinary people are only bothered about things which affect them... the NHS, the cost of living, the state of their kids' education and schools. People aren't bothered that a few thousand pensioners are getting £200 that they may not need. In fact so many pensioners are now claiming pension credit( me being one of them) that it is not saving thr amount of money they originally thought. And yes there was method behind the land tax and the tax on private schools but this is just tinkering about the edges. Starmer should be putting these figures out not podcasts like yours, which are brilliant but don't reach the majority of people. Why has Rachel Reeves buggered off to China instead of staying here and using her power ( which she does have) to say to the Bank of England 'Stop selling off the bonds acquired during Covid and flooding the market and hence keeping interest rates high". Lower interest rates would again, benefit ordinary people and lessen the burden on the National Debt but it seems they are ignoring ordinary people, afraid of upsetting the millionaires and billionaires. 🙄🙄😡😡😡 I could go on but it's giving me a headache. Thanks for your contribution Rob. I don't know how you keep going.❤
@@GlynBoughton Keep dreaming, this was a lie from the clown Johnson. You seems to have reading problems, listen to the video, 50 sec and you will know the truth
@@GlynBoughton😂 The £ 350 million never existed due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher...the UK never paid its full membership fee...instead it paid about one third of it only... Considering that EZs membership fee is used for the needed infrastructure, shared by ALL EUs member states, like the border police, customs controls, vet check ups, including civil services and infrastructure, professional EUs negotiators working on behalf of ALL EUs member states, the loss of those 756 EUs trade deals/agreements with best conditions due to EUs size/soft power with countries all over the world ... And the loss of EUs subsidies, like those €650 million, Cornwall received every five years since the UK was EU member state... Eus subsidies always go to the regions/districts/projects directly, like EUs fund for infrastructure, social projects for kids/youth etc, culture, art, for poor regions etc... UK lost £ 100 billion due to Brexit in 2022 UK lost £ 149 billion due to Brexit in 2023 | Bloomberg and Financial Times and UKgov 2024 All if what was sharde within EUs member states the UK has to supply and pay for on its own now 😂
As a Brexit voter I believe 'Brexit' is going to get much much worse. BoE telling us Net Zero is increasing our energy costs will become Brexit is increasing our energy bills. No longer offering the lower interest rates on decarbonisation = Brexit. Reeves budget disaster becomes ???? Brexit and Liz Truss.
@stewie7338 I wish you and the other Brits who voted on such a stupid ass decision could suffer alone. Unfortunately, we (remainers) have to go through this with you! Genius decision, well done
I fear that a decision has now been made by the 'respectable' media to normalise the far right and make Farage a legitimate possible leader. The gutter press already worship him. It is a long way to govt for the far right (look at LePen) especially under our system, but with vast amounts of money (from oligarchs), a media that either adores him or does not hold him to account and in the context of a failing government and major economic problems it is not beyond possibility that they could become kingmakers.
Unfortunately if you still havent fixed this, recovered some credibility and are distracted by grooming gangs fake news then there is a good chance you join the Turd Reich as the 55th state.
It served as good example for all other EU members, the EU sucks, but not being a member sucks even more. Cooperation is mutually beneficial, when you stop doing that, you"ll suffer.
But even with the downsides of Brexit abundantly clear, it remains the elephant in many a room. "Brexit has been a huge mistake that needs to be fixed." Is what Labour should be stating. This won't solve the issue, but it would be a starting point. No-one but the most gullible thinks that Brexit was, is or will ever become a success and the UK as a country should wake up to reality.
I agree with you. But as long as political apathy, tribalism, private corporate media (GBnews) reigns in the average british household, brexit will ALWAYS be the elephant in the room, not a mistake mind you, but a missed opportunity that was squandered and "mismanaged" that only the next Nigel Farage will be able to take advantage of... It rly is painful to watch so many people in the UK be completely clueless about politics and voting agaist their self economic interests simply due to their lack of interest in politics, their gullibility and lack of common sense... (Im being extremely doplomatic here).
I agree, but the fact is that even if the current Labour government was enthusiastic about rejoining the EU and the population voted for it in another referendum, the EU would not let us back in until we can demonstrate we are not dominated by anti-European xenophobic attitudes across politicians and the population, and even if we did eventually manage to rejoin, we wouldn't have the same priviliges as before, and we might even have to adopt the Euro.
Labour are going to carry on sitting on their Brexit fence, like they always did. Terrified of upsetting those Labour voters who believe in it. Not only the far right believed it in, but also the less educated right across the political spectrum.
I have a friend say to me "I don't care if brexit makes me poorer at least we'er free." There is no argument against that kind of thinking. Nose, face, sharp knife comes to mind.
A nice line of argument is this: Freedom? You mean sovereignty? Yes. Exactly. What is that, sovereignty? The freedom of self governance. How does that look like? Well….you know….such and so… I’ll help. Sovereignty is the only invisible currency in the world. Really? What can you buy with it? Bilateral agreements. The right to cross a border. The right to travel to a certain country. The technical possibility to call to another country. But now the UK has lots of it. Stored in a fridge. But, but, but, more freedom. What part didn’t you not understand. LESS FREEDOM!!!
@ai-d2121 Unfortunately, as much as I agree with your argument, my friend's thinking about brexit is like a religion. No proof need just believe. Logical arguments and proof don't work in a belief system.
@@keysmiff7689 You're right about the impossibility of logic breaking through a belief system. Logic may not do it, but eventually as their belief system crumbles on contact with reality, they will find it ever more difficult to ignore its effects. They will of course cling desperately, to their beliefs, but....
Britain must remain Compliant with the EU. In its laws and regulations. With no political influence it once had. Similar with the CTPPT. Britain is now a rule taker. Not a rule maker. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
derekmulready1523 "Britain must remain Compliant with the EU." That's demonstrably false. The UK has already diverged in some regards and even the Labour government has done that - as with the VAT on private schools and now the gene editing for crops, neither of which are permitted under EU regulations.
Britain still needs to export food to the EU. Gmo food is not permitted in the EU. Certain herbicides for control of weeds in arrible crops aren't permitted as they have the tendency to disoriente pollening insects bees butterfly and Moths. The British pie and jam making companies will be barred from the EU. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
@@Doggle85I think you have misunderstood the issue with EU compliance. If you want to sell goods it to the EU they must comply with EU regulations. With regards to VAT on private schools, again I think you are mistaken, the government has removed private schools charitable status which they have been using to avoid VAT.
Going for a 'clean break' from the EU when you don't have a plan for your country; other than going to war - that's about the worst thing a leader and a governing party can do to their country. Words cannot adequately describe how bad doing such a thing is. Or of going about the subsequent negotiations - with an utterly closed mind. I've said this before and will say it again - Brexit is the beginning of the end of the UK as we know it. And no, that's not hyperbole, it's the reality.
And all of it would not have been possible if it wasnt for a few lying opportunists and an extremely stupid population. The british public (mostly english) are fully to blame. Moreover, I am not a betting man, but I want to bet that for the next GE, Reform will be the party that wins them.
It’s not free. It’s free at the point of use. It costs billions, you and I pay for it in taxation (and I wouldn’t have it any other way). When I travel to the US I get $10m insurance. And I worry that may not be enough
UK paid 10 billion net every year into EU and got to run the monopoly for the European banking for that money. Hundreds of trillions in transactions and hundreds of billions in revenue and tens of billions in tax revenue. Sweetest deal of all the members in the EU. Then they decided that they don’t want the money and they want to give it back to EU27. 🎉
Brexit voters don't think that. It is Remainers that see the EU as the new Empire. Remainers never got rid of their colonial mindset. They cannot accept their is no Empire anymore so want to be part of an EU one.
Rob. You are preaching to the intelligent. Those who are capable of critical thinking. The vast rump of society who switch off their brains to either consume social media or Ant & Dec will never accept reports like this because they are too lazy to engage their brain. They live off prejudice and McDonalds - all very dubious brain food... We educate our kids but we stop educating their parents. A vast rump of lazy, gullible, unthinking people who are not just knuckle draggers. I feel sorry for the kids who are denied freedom of movement and opportunity whose parents and grandparents were taken in by charlatans like Farage and Johnson with no thought to how Brexit would work or its affect on anything other than a different colour passport. Brexit and populism go hand in hand. Populism skillfully manipulated by pub bores like Farage leads to people embracing 'Trumped up' mini dictators like Musk and the rest of the tech bros to use democracy for one thing - to get rid of it. This is how all extreme idealogies work. They use the very tool of democracy to destroy it.
Populism thrives on destitution, providing a scapegoat/bogeyman for people to blame for their woes. The way to combat populism is to improve the quality of life of the citizens, especially the poorest citizens. If people feel their lives are good and/or improving, no need for ideology.
The shit state of the UK is not all down to BRexit, just a big chunk of it. The rest is mainly down to 14 years of austerity and under investment in services and infrastructure.
The totally unnecessary austerity sowed the seeds for Brexit. Cameron has basically destroyed the U.K. with a helpful assist from Johnson and Farage. The upside is that he also destroyed the Tory party in the process. I predicted that Brexit would ultimately destroy the Tory party, every cloud etc.
It’s not all negative, yes, there is a shortage of doctors, nurses, IT specialists, etc. But the uk now has an abundance of uber drivers and there’s no long waits for food deliveries
Apart from skin colour, people coming from non-EU countries also have different customs and traditions and religions so the Brexit crowd who wanted to stop "forriners" have shot themselves in thd foot😂.
@stewie7338 better than the UK, most regular immigration to Ireland is from the EU. We have a refugee issue the same as the UK but that's a separate issue. Does that answer your question?
Thank you for that skilful summing up of the post-Brexit situation. How sobering to know that the worst is yet to come. Yet, as you say, the 'get over it, life still goes on' trolls will continue to pretend that all is fine. If only Keir Starmer had enough courage to admit wholeheartedly that Brexit was a mistake and that we need to take steps towards reversing it.
You cannot reverse it. Reverse means going back to what it was before brexit. UK will never have that position in EU even if it somehow manages to comply with the application criteria in a distant future.
A brilliant video Bob. If I was to suggest to my GB news brexit voting colleagues in work to watch this video, they would refuse point blank. They only want to listen to GB news. That's how brainwashed they are.
Brexit and COVID, crucial times in the UK's history. The very time you needed the best of leaders and negotiators and what had you got....................BJ!!!! And May, Truss and Sunak and a bunch of trade negotiators that were the most arrogant, inexperienced and inept ever! Every trading block and nation walked all over them! Well done the UK and thank you from Ireland for all our Brexit benefits!
regarding those UK trade negotiators, that was a natural result. During the UKs EU membership trained and experienced trade negotiators from the UK worked in the EU teams on EU trade negotiations. While brexiting those experts were seen as EU linked traitors unfit to work for the UK. And so the UK instead used trade negotiators that were not qualified to operate as EU trade negotiators. And it showed in their "world beating" results.
@Ciara.Higgins-xz9im "Garage and his lies on bus has killed this country," The bus thing was Boris Johnson. It was nothing whatsoever to do with Nigel Farage. If our country is being killed, then it's a Labour government which is doing that, not something that was printed on a bus (which, by the way, has been exceeded!).
@@Doggle85 "If our country is being killed, then it's a Labour government which is doing that..."? Yeah, let's all join hands and pretend that nearly FIFTEEN YEARS of Tory austerity, kleptocracy and rampant incompetence never happened....
@@Doggle85 "The UK was growing at a satisfactory rate until Labour took over"? Back in reality, the UK's economy fell further faster than any other G7 economy, as a result of both the financial crisis and Covid-19. It recovered far less well than any other G7 economy. The UK has massive structural issues which long predate Labour. Most obviously, a Debt/GDP ratio which was more than 100% before the last GENERAL ELECTION. Then thee it's historically low productivity, and a huge proportion of the working age population which is not participating in the labour force.
@@gloin10 In the first half of 2024, the UK economy grew by 1.25% in aggregate which would, had that continued (a moot point) translated into a respectable annual growth of 2.5%, which would likely have put the UK first or second in the G7. It was, according to the ONS, "going gangbusters", although I think that's probably overstating it. The UK certainly fell massively due to the 2008 financial crisis and being in the EU didn't help at all. We were slow to recover from the COVID crisis for a number of structural reasons, not because we weren't exporting enough to the EU. The buds of growth we were seeing last year were snuffed out by Labour as we predicted would happen. I agree that the roots of the UK's structural issues long pre-date the GE - but they also pre-date Brexit. They arise from a number of factors but especially low productivity, as you rightly say. When I look at your last response, we seem to be in agreement.
@@thorstenguenther 🤣 It's not entirely about that though. We have elections coming up, we have the AfD rising and maybe can make use of UKs mistakes with rightwing politics.
Actually a lot of small companies have opened up offices/companies and are employing people in order to continue exporting to not only Europe, but also other countries which the EU have trade agreements.
I've said before but I think it needs repeating Donald Tusk's comment, when he was President of the EU 'There's a special place in hell for those who went into Brexit without a plan' I think we all know to whom he was referring
Very depressing list of stats. To add insult to injury Labour will not acknowledge this because of fear of the right-wing media that is still pro-Brexit. They would rather impose more cuts than take on the lies & BS of farage, Daily Fail, Excess etc.
Unfortunately, I don't see our government doing anything transformative or progressive. Too much corporate lobying and funding, with paralysis by oligarch. They will undo some of the blatant stupidity of the Tories, but little more when we urgently need it.
Sad to see the Brit’s take such a suicidal decision. What is more shocking is that the country which enacted company law where important decisions required a special resolution (75%) majority decided to go ahead with a simple majority for their most important matter in their history.
3:25 I've news for you it's exactly what Brexiteers voted for. I know and have spoken to many commonwealth friends. They absolutely voted for Brexit because they were pissed their relatives didn’t have parity with EU freedoms of movement. Brexit delivered everything they wanted, with massively increased immigration to the UK.
Rob, I have to agree with everything you say but it does not matter because I am French (not my country, no voting rights in the UK). The unfortunate aspect of Brexit is NOW it will take a much bigger share of the UK population to demand a join application to be submitted well in excess of 50%. Instead, today, NO UK political party of significance is pushing for a join-the-EU application. So probably I will die before I see the UK back in the EU. Just too bad. Being an EU citizen I don't care so much about what the UK decides although I miss my British friends. As said many times, the UK is welcome to join as a normal country meaning full compliance to EU requirements and rules, ZERO exception and , because of Brexit, only an overwhelming majority to join will do.
Spot on. The brain washed who voted for it in the first place are still brain washed (see reform UK Ltd). The media who pushed the lies first time around will push them harder a second. It's easy to say 'Starmer should grow a spine' but the reality is we, as a country/collective are not ready to admit we were wrong to the point we ignore what the media and other vested interests say to the contrary.
It may be worth mentioning that in July 2020 at the start of the pandemic the EU agreed on a budget of around €1,824 billion for the period 2021-27. The package was also made take into account the impact of the Covid 19 pandemic and to mitigate the damage done to the EU economy in addition to the three safety nets of €540 billion already in place to support businesses and workers in the EU. In Poland for example, the EU support is manifested in what's known as the National Recovery Plan ( Krajowy Plan Odbudowy - KPO). Although it mainly focuses on green energy /digital transformation the purpose is to strengthen the economy ( eg health and the job market) which the current coalition govt is now implementing. The point is, the UK might have been a beneficiary of the EU Recovery Plan had it stayed in the EU, no doubt with larger sums allocated than Poland's €59.8 billion. Makes you wonder why Rachel Reeves will need to sort out a mini budget and impose steeper cuts to public services when things could have looked differently had we stayed in the EU.
I remember that before Brexit, the Brexiteers were urging the public to vote leave because the European Union will become like Greece. Currently the yield for the 10 year Greek government bond is 1.4% (146.7 bp) lower than UK.
A nice line of argument is this: Freedom? You mean sovereignty? Yes. Exactly. What is that, sovereignty? The freedom of self governance. How does that look like? Well….you know….such and so… I’ll help. Sovereignty is the only invisible currency in the world. Really? What can you buy with it? Bilateral agreements. The right to cross a border. The right to travel to a certain country. The technical possibility to call to another country. But now the UK has lots of it. Stored in a fridge. But, but, but, more freedom. What part didn’t you not understand. LESS FREEDOM!!!
As I said many times before you haven't seen the worst of Brex[sh]it yet! It's like a slow moving freight train that is derailing! The EU wants their euro clearing system in the EU! Banks had a year in 2024 to shift euro-clearing from London to the EU! London will lose trillions😭
Brits need to understand that when they voted for Brexit they voted to become poorer. This is now exactly what they are getting. Of course, this isn't what they expected; however, the allusion of greater riches and a new and better British Empire did its trick. Until Brits loose their allusion that they are still a great country and are special (like their supposedly special US relationship) they will not be able to move forward.
Not ‘Brits’, please. The people of Scotland voted to remain in the EU, as did those in Northern Ireland, although not technically Brits. By the way, ‘allusion’ should be ‘illusion’.
@@clarecrawford9677 True, not all parts of the UK voted to leave, but the result is that all parts of the UK have left the EU and been saddled with exactly the same economic realities. BREXIT doesn't differentiate betweeen a Scotsman or and Englishman; although Northern Ireland is sort of stranded in no-mans land.
If you look back it was so successful farage the leader of Brexit couldn't be found for 2 days as he knew the Brexshit chaos he had caused but as holder of an RU passport he didn't care. He deserves snake oil salesman of the world award
We all know Brexit has been a disaster , even most Brexit voters admit to this . We should be asking , what were the real reasons behind Brexit ? Because the reasons the leave camp put forward have been proven to be a pack of lies . I've no doubt at some point in the future we will rejoin but my guess would be 15/20 years .
EUs ATAD = Anti Tax Avoidance Directive was the real reason for Brexit, all the other "reasons" were just there, to get the Brits to vote for Brexit...
Thanks Rob without exports a country is literally bleeding to death as we can see in / with all countries being sanctioned whether it is Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela. Export means money coming into a country, foreign currencies, valuta and this Brexit outcome did nothing else than creating barriers. 2) There are almost no countries who can provide entirely for 'all' work to be self sufficient, we need foreign investors / companies and sequently work for our people, if possible also by manufacturing and not only services / finances etc in offices behind computer screens. What we see now is massive lay-offs of which some big companies leaving or re locating and in the EU we lobby and fight when companies have been here for many years, to STAY. In some cases we cannot stop it either, but fight for each job, because we realise how difficult it is to replace 500,1000 or more jobs each time. Populists emerge everywhere but after the damage done they don't take no responsability, they blame it each time on something else totally obsessed with their ' poison ideas'. People still assume that the social / health system will help them without end but this system is under high pressure and can hold it for some years but will finally crack down eventually if not enough funds coming in. Last , just suppose the UK would join back the EU, how many obstacles / negociations to overcome, how many veto's from France or ?? countries, all time and delay which will cost again trillions for the UK. >In Belgium after elections in june we managed to stop the populists and keep out the extremists whether right or left and we still haven't got a government right now, why not ? We will have to make some serious changes and cuts which literally NOBODY wants but are be vital to preserve our competion and save our working class force and it will hurt, taxes are at the highest level already, so we NEED to adjust that is the harsh REALITY. Principles and ?? ideologies won't help our average working people keep afloat, and they will be the victim of poverty looming and that is what I wory / fear most.. ( best regards from BE. )
For me, Brexit meant splitting off the non-UK part of my business and setting up a GmbH in Germany to keep exporting. As we drift further away from EU regulations we increase the price for rejoining. It’s about time that the main UK media started to look after its viewers, readers, or listeners and tell the truth.
The funny thing about the immigration thing is that prior to brexthick hospitality and shops and offices etc were staffed by young Spanish and East European women. Now they are all staffed by Indian men 😂😂 is that a brexitty bonus?
As a Spanish immigrant living here for 10 years (the last one remaining from a group of 20 friends from Spain, Italy, Portugal, and Greece), it’s sad to see how the UK is collapsing. It’s true that many other European countries are in a similar or worse situation, but from my perspective, the UK should adopt the same agreement as Norway: allowing free movement while maintaining the freedom to negotiate trade deals. It was hard to hear pro Brexit voters telling us we weren’t needed, that we were taking skilled jobs (as nurses, doctors, or engineers), and that they preferred immigration from Australia or America (which never happened, instead they have millions of people coming from third world economies using the glitch of healthcare assistance visa, while the eu workers don’t even consider the option to come here due to the complexity of the process, while other options like Norway, Ireland, or Switzerland are there and literally no papers / visa needed). Now, the immigration coming in often seems to aim solely at living on benefits or, worse, committing crimes. There are no nurses in our hospital anymore most of my colleagues are now in Switzerland, or Norway, where salaries are better, the ones that still here are all planning to leave. Investors and talent are fleeing the UK due to high taxes and the lack of skilled professionals. I love the UK for everything it has given me, everything my own country couldn’t, but the people here need to realize that the only way to turn things around is by rejoining the eu market, accepting European immigration, and tightening restrictions on illegal immigration.
@@GlynBoughton NO. Those £ 350 million never existed due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher...the UK never paid its full membership fee, instead it paid about one third of it only...
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Idiots don't stop being idiots, just because they screw up. After all, they don't believe they are idiots, even when the bailiff takes their telly, car, and computer. Somehow, it's the fault of others, the world, or just 'bad luck'.
Well, migrants from Pakistan, India etc. are probably in the UK for the long term, whereas migrants from the EU could come and go without making any commitments to stay e.g. how many Poles packed up their businesses and left? Not so easy going back to Pakistan where the income is a fraction of the UK's amounts. Integration is what the EU project is all about. It works very well in achieving equality for all member states.
But but but..I lived in London from 2006 until 2016 ...the hatred and the deep dislike for the EU was there from the start..I could see it growing and the referendum result was no surprise...economics are useless when it comes to Brexit..most brits rather eat spuds for the rest of their lives then having FOM with the EU...sadly.
Keir Starmer is a Brexiteer. He also voted to invoke article 50. The EU knows that full well and would turn him down if he applies to rejoin. He knows that full well too. But do British voters realize that?
03:08 - one of the reasons some Brexiters wanted Brexit was precisely that they thought it would mean bringing a wider range of migrant workers in and less EU migrants. Couple that with a points based system they said - we could bring in the best and control numbers. Worked out well didn't it? 🤣🤣🤣
I think Starmer is, but he knows a rejoin referendum would bring all the Gammons and Russian bots out in force. I think it's still 50/50 if it came to another referendum.
Wich is a good reason to let them go on with their brexit. It is not in the interest of EU to have a member whose only reason to join would be to repair its wrecked eceonomy.
To me the biggest problem is that so many people in Britain don't feel European! To them being British is being independent, an island nation, standing strong... With Donald Trump coming back in power, and with Putin threatening, we need a united Europe, not Brexit.
I work in the London Banking space and everything that is listed here was predictable. A real interesting number would be the loss in tax revenue. I have seen so many in the banking space move to the continent who earned decent 6 figure salaries. I doubt the ones who have come provide the same kind of tax revenue.
Are they talking about the loss of the clearing services, which will happen soon? As the FOM for capital ends June 2025, this will be a huge loss for the City of London, as those financial services are making up about one third of worlds market for clearing services...
@horatio71 The deadline is June 2025 ... The EU27 wanted to do that already after 2008, but UK went to the European court...and won, eventhough the UK never joined the €/Euro zone..but was EU member state...which UK used as a reason to take care of all €/Euroclearing.... Since Brexit the EU27 wants it's currency services back in the EU27, the "passporting" went back into the EU27 January 2024, June this year the "Euroclearing" will be back in the EU27, then Brexit is complete, as the transition period of FOM for capital ends June 2025 !!
The problem with democracy, the scientist has the same value as the illiterate, the philantropist has the same value as the thief and the murderer, the wise has the same value as the ignorant, the hard worker has the same value as the lazy parasite. The voting system is the most flawed, it's the only system where everyone is equal, but equal doesn't mean it's right.
You have nailed one of the issues with democracy or the misuse of democracy in the case of the Brexit referendum. The decision whether or not to leave the EU should have been made by people who have demonstrable knowledge of how the EU works, the UK's role within it and the potential advantages and disadvantages of leaving vs staying. Asking the population to vote leave or remain is like asking the population how to treat your chest pains. Even in a democracy, we use informed experts to make decisions for us on matters that laypeople would be clueless about, that is why if my car breaks down, I contact a mechanic, I don't put a poll the public.
Before the EU allow us to rejoin we need to put things in place before that. Like PR. If Labour don't make a difference to people's lives in the next 12 months they are going to lose so much support that they will not make that 2nd term when they are supposed to be going to deal with 'other stuff' and neither will they have the massive majority to push policies through. They need to forget about "balancing the books". That only matters to the right wing media. Ordinary people are only bothered about things which affect them... the NHS, the cost of living, the state of their kids' education and schools. People aren't bothered that a few thousand pensioners are getting £200 that they may not need. In fact so many pensioners are now claiming pension credit( me being one of them) that it is not saving thr amount of money they originally thought. And yes there was method behind the land tax and the tax on private schools but this is just tinkering about the edges. Starmer should be putting these figures out not podcasts like yours, which are brilliant but don't reach the majority of people. Why has Rachel Reeves buggered off to China instead of staying here and using her power ( which she does have) to say to the Bank of England 'Stop selling off the bonds acquired during Covid and flooding the market and hence keeping interest rates high". Lower interest rates would again, benefit ordinary people and lessen the burden on the National Debt but it seems they are ignoring ordinary people, afraid of upsetting the millionaires and billionaires. 🙄🙄😡😡😡 I could go on but it's giving me a headache. Thanks for your contribution Rob. I don't know how you keep going.❤
You decided to leave the EU and we don't want you back, enjoy your island. You have voted for that clown B. Johnson and believed his lies. Bye Bye
Who said we want to rejoin? We are saving £350M a week
@@GlynBoughton Keep dreaming, this was a lie from the clown Johnson. You seems to have reading problems, listen to the video, 50 sec and you will know the truth
@@GlynBoughton😂
The £ 350 million never existed due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher...the UK never paid its full membership fee...instead it paid about one third of it only...
Considering that EZs membership fee is used for the needed infrastructure, shared by ALL EUs member states, like the border police, customs controls, vet check ups, including civil services and infrastructure, professional EUs negotiators working on behalf of ALL EUs member states, the loss of those 756 EUs trade deals/agreements with best conditions due to EUs size/soft power with countries all over the world ...
And the loss of EUs subsidies, like those €650 million, Cornwall received every five years since the UK was EU member state...
Eus subsidies always go to the regions/districts/projects directly, like EUs fund for infrastructure, social projects for kids/youth etc, culture, art, for poor regions etc...
UK lost £ 100 billion due to Brexit in 2022
UK lost £ 149 billion due to Brexit in 2023 | Bloomberg and Financial Times and UKgov 2024
All if what was sharde within EUs member states the UK has to supply and pay for on its own now 😂
@GlynBoughton
Sarcasm I hope?
Your average Brexit voter doesn't think, fullstop.
The fear mongering worked extremely well on them.
As a Brexit voter I believe 'Brexit' is going to get much much worse. BoE telling us Net Zero is increasing our energy costs will become Brexit is increasing our energy bills. No longer offering the lower interest rates on decarbonisation = Brexit. Reeves budget disaster becomes ???? Brexit and Liz Truss.
@@stewie7338 Thank you for so promptly confirming the point of the post to which you replied.
@stewie7338 I wish you and the other Brits who voted on such a stupid ass decision could suffer alone. Unfortunately, we (remainers) have to go through this with you! Genius decision, well done
@@stewie7338 Nice piece of genuine Brexit gibberish there Stewie.
I shall never forgive those who engineered Brexit or those who voted for it.
I have exactly the same feeling
If you voted Labour my friend maybe you should be hoping you are forgiven.
Hear, hear.
@peterjhillier7659 You'll never forgive us because we didn't vote the way you wanted. In a democracy. OK. I think we'll live with that.
@@Doggle85 They don't believe in democracy though. That should be fairly evident by now.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Yet - Farage is persistently given a stage.
He gets far too much free airtime, not just on the BBC. All publicity is good for him, not us.
I fear that a decision has now been made by the 'respectable' media to normalise the far right and make Farage a legitimate possible leader. The gutter press already worship him. It is a long way to govt for the far right (look at LePen) especially under our system, but with vast amounts of money (from oligarchs), a media that either adores him or does not hold him to account and in the context of a failing government and major economic problems it is not beyond possibility that they could become kingmakers.
Unfortunately if you still havent fixed this, recovered some credibility and are distracted by grooming gangs fake news then there is a good chance you join the Turd Reich as the 55th state.
Farage - the talking turd.
He’s Britain’s Trump, and we gave that idiot a second chance.
Brexit. The gift that keeps on taking.
The vote to leave the EU. The gift that keeps on taking. Stop using that brand word.
Deflect all you want. It is the government who are responsible for their management of the country that there is now decline...
It served as good example for all other EU members, the EU sucks, but not being a member sucks even more. Cooperation is mutually beneficial, when you stop doing that, you"ll suffer.
But even with the downsides of Brexit abundantly clear, it remains the elephant in many a room. "Brexit has been a huge mistake that needs to be fixed." Is what Labour should be stating. This won't solve the issue, but it would be a starting point. No-one but the most gullible thinks that Brexit was, is or will ever become a success and the UK as a country should wake up to reality.
I agree with you.
But as long as political apathy, tribalism, private corporate media (GBnews) reigns in the average british household, brexit will ALWAYS be the elephant in the room, not a mistake mind you, but a missed opportunity that was squandered and "mismanaged" that only the next Nigel Farage will be able to take advantage of...
It rly is painful to watch so many people in the UK be completely clueless about politics and voting agaist their self economic interests simply due to their lack of interest in politics, their gullibility and lack of common sense... (Im being extremely doplomatic here).
I agree, but the fact is that even if the current Labour government was enthusiastic about rejoining the EU and the population voted for it in another referendum, the EU would not let us back in until we can demonstrate we are not dominated by anti-European xenophobic attitudes across politicians and the population, and even if we did eventually manage to rejoin, we wouldn't have the same priviliges as before, and we might even have to adopt the Euro.
Brexit is such a can of worms, it will be a VERY brave government who risks reopening it by seriously talking about rejoining the EU.
Labour are going to carry on sitting on their Brexit fence, like they always did. Terrified of upsetting those Labour voters who believe in it. Not only the far right believed it in, but also the less educated right across the political spectrum.
LibDem are the only mainstream political party that had the courage to declare the dire need for the UK to rejoin the EU sadly
I have a friend say to me "I don't care if brexit makes me poorer at least we'er free." There is no argument against that kind of thinking. Nose, face, sharp knife comes to mind.
A nice line of argument is this: Freedom? You mean sovereignty?
Yes. Exactly.
What is that, sovereignty?
The freedom of self governance.
How does that look like?
Well….you know….such and so…
I’ll help. Sovereignty is the only invisible currency in the world.
Really? What can you buy with it?
Bilateral agreements. The right to cross a border. The right to travel to a certain country. The technical possibility to call to another country. But now the UK has lots of it. Stored in a fridge.
But, but, but, more freedom.
What part didn’t you not understand. LESS FREEDOM!!!
@ai-d2121 Unfortunately, as much as I agree with your argument, my friend's thinking about brexit is like a religion. No proof need just believe. Logical arguments and proof don't work in a belief system.
@@keysmiff7689 You're right about the impossibility of logic breaking through a belief system. Logic may not do it, but eventually as their belief system crumbles on contact with reality, they will find it ever more difficult to ignore its effects. They will of course cling desperately, to their beliefs, but....
Maybe ask your "friend" what else he wishes to pay for with your things like your FoM or your loss of income?
Free from what to do what?
Since when have restrictions, even self imposed restrictions amounted to greater freedom.
Britain must remain Compliant with the EU. In its laws and regulations. With no political influence it once had. Similar with the CTPPT.
Britain is now a rule taker. Not a rule maker.
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And the CPTPP uses corporate courts, where companies can sue for loss of profit.
Oh dear.........
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"Britain must remain Compliant with the EU." That's demonstrably false. The UK has already diverged in some regards and even the Labour government has done that - as with the VAT on private schools and now the gene editing for crops, neither of which are permitted under EU regulations.
Britain still needs to export food to the EU. Gmo food is not permitted in the EU. Certain herbicides for control of weeds in arrible crops aren't permitted as they have the tendency to disoriente pollening insects bees butterfly and Moths. The British pie and jam making companies will be barred from the EU.
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@@Doggle85I think you have misunderstood the issue with EU compliance. If you want to sell goods it to the EU they must comply with EU regulations. With regards to VAT on private schools, again I think you are mistaken, the government has removed private schools charitable status which they have been using to avoid VAT.
Going for a 'clean break' from the EU when you don't have a plan for your country; other than going to war - that's about the worst thing a leader and a governing party can do to their country. Words cannot adequately describe how bad doing such a thing is. Or of going about the subsequent negotiations - with an utterly closed mind.
I've said this before and will say it again - Brexit is the beginning of the end of the UK as we know it. And no, that's not hyperbole, it's the reality.
And all of it would not have been possible if it wasnt for a few lying opportunists and an extremely stupid population.
The british public (mostly english) are fully to blame.
Moreover, I am not a betting man, but I want to bet that for the next GE, Reform will be the party that wins them.
I’m so glad that £350m returned to Britain and saved the NHS. Just look at how great the NHS is today. Thanks brexit 😳
It's still Free
It’s not free. It’s free at the point of use. It costs billions, you and I pay for it in taxation (and I wouldn’t have it any other way). When I travel to the US I get $10m insurance. And I worry that may not be enough
And the NHS is still staffed by bloody immigrants! Terrible.
@HT-io1egMy maximum is also 10 million dollars in the USA. What the hell can cost so much?
UK paid 10 billion net every year into EU and got to run the monopoly for the European banking for that money. Hundreds of trillions in transactions and hundreds of billions in revenue and tens of billions in tax revenue. Sweetest deal of all the members in the EU. Then they decided that they don’t want the money and they want to give it back to EU27. 🎉
when will England realise it is not a super-power anymore?????????????
Brexit voters don't think that. It is Remainers that see the EU as the new Empire. Remainers never got rid of their colonial mindset. They cannot accept their is no Empire anymore so want to be part of an EU one.
The peasants of the king are brainwashed
England?
@jackliv23 the answer is never because their too busy flag liking to notice
@@TomChambers-dz7cy Where do you get this idea from?
Rob. You are preaching to the intelligent. Those who are capable of critical thinking. The vast rump of society who switch off their brains to either consume social media or Ant & Dec will never accept reports like this because they are too lazy to engage their brain. They live off prejudice and McDonalds - all very dubious brain food... We educate our kids but we stop educating their parents. A vast rump of lazy, gullible, unthinking people who are not just knuckle draggers. I feel sorry for the kids who are denied freedom of movement and opportunity whose parents and grandparents were taken in by charlatans like Farage and Johnson with no thought to how Brexit would work or its affect on anything other than a different colour passport. Brexit and populism go hand in hand. Populism skillfully manipulated by pub bores like Farage leads to people embracing 'Trumped up' mini dictators like Musk and the rest of the tech bros to use democracy for one thing - to get rid of it. This is how all extreme idealogies work. They use the very tool of democracy to destroy it.
A really insightful comment which I agree with completely. Thank you🤗
Perfectly put
Populism thrives on destitution, providing a scapegoat/bogeyman for people to blame for their woes. The way to combat populism is to improve the quality of life of the citizens, especially the poorest citizens. If people feel their lives are good and/or improving, no need for ideology.
A perfect example of a people voting against its own interests.
The shit state of the UK is not all down to BRexit, just a big chunk of it. The rest is mainly down to 14 years of austerity and under investment in services and infrastructure.
The totally unnecessary austerity sowed the seeds for Brexit. Cameron has basically destroyed the U.K. with a helpful assist from Johnson and Farage. The upside is that he also destroyed the Tory party in the process. I predicted that Brexit would ultimately destroy the Tory party, every cloud etc.
@@paulsaunders6536 Heck of a price for us all to pay and the replacement may be neo fascist.
It’s not all negative, yes, there is a shortage of doctors, nurses, IT specialists, etc.
But the uk now has an abundance of uber drivers and there’s no long waits for food deliveries
And our waters are filled with turd, don't forget that!!
Swapped white Europeans for Africans and Asians 😂 sorry but the irony of that considering how the average Brexit voter thinks 😂
Yes, but it helps them to feel more like the Empire still exists....
Apart from skin colour, people coming from non-EU countries also have different customs and traditions and religions so the Brexit crowd who wanted to stop "forriners" have shot themselves in thd foot😂.
Yup tell us how well its going in Ireland on that front my friend?
@stewie7338 better than the UK, most regular immigration to Ireland is from the EU.
We have a refugee issue the same as the UK but that's a separate issue.
Does that answer your question?
@@snowiecat456
*Foots.
Brexit fills me with utter despair! I would rejoin the EU in a heartbeat!
EU doesn't need Brexitania, EU doesn't want Brexitania back!
@@Brexitopia that is not true.
@@edwardbernthal160 Continue to repeat this to yourself... maybe it will come true! By the way, ready for June 2025? What will you do then??
@@Brexitopia not that it's anything to do with you, but I was planning a trip to Tivoli. Greetings from Denmark du dumme svin.
@@Brexitopia So childish...Grow up.
I love your sign off, 'Welkom to de Brexit, sir'
Great reporting as usual, Rob.
You haven't mentioned the hundreds of millions paid to car manufacturers to remain in the UK
Including £200 million in grants to Elon Musk! Half of which Musk now wants to return in funding the far-right...
Thank you for that skilful summing up of the post-Brexit situation. How sobering to know that the worst is yet to come. Yet, as you say, the 'get over it, life still goes on' trolls will continue to pretend that all is fine. If only Keir Starmer had enough courage to admit wholeheartedly that Brexit was a mistake and that we need to take steps towards reversing it.
You cannot reverse it. Reverse means going back to what it was before brexit. UK will never have that position in EU even if it somehow manages to comply with the application criteria in a distant future.
@@trident6547 I meant re-join. The terms, as you say, won't be as favourable, but it will still be worth it.
No re-join only join as a new applicant, the same terms as for the other applicant countries.
A brilliant video Bob. If I was to suggest to my GB news brexit voting colleagues in work to watch this video, they would refuse point blank. They only want to listen to GB news. That's how brainwashed they are.
Labour party will be blamed for most Brexit effects now.
But they didn't oppose Brexit so they must own it.
Brexit and COVID, crucial times in the UK's history. The very time you needed the best of leaders and negotiators and what had you got....................BJ!!!! And May, Truss and Sunak and a bunch of trade negotiators that were the most arrogant, inexperienced and inept ever! Every trading block and nation walked all over them! Well done the UK and thank you from Ireland for all our Brexit benefits!
regarding those UK trade negotiators, that was a natural result.
During the UKs EU membership trained and experienced trade negotiators from the UK worked in the EU teams on EU trade negotiations.
While brexiting those experts were seen as EU linked traitors unfit to work for the UK.
And so the UK instead used trade negotiators that were not qualified to operate as EU trade negotiators.
And it showed in their "world beating" results.
@@Ooze-cl5tx Good point.
The UK is so screwed!
Neither Scotland nor NI wanted brexit, but was dragged out against their democratically expressed will...
I thought the comment of ‘the illiterate people having a library closed’ was on point, well done.
Garage and his lies on bus has killed this country, and he just moves on to some new project. This man is dangerous.
@Ciara.Higgins-xz9im "Garage and his lies on bus has killed this country," The bus thing was Boris Johnson. It was nothing whatsoever to do with Nigel Farage. If our country is being killed, then it's a Labour government which is doing that, not something that was printed on a bus (which, by the way, has been exceeded!).
@@Doggle85
"If our country is being killed, then it's a Labour government which is doing that..."?
Yeah, let's all join hands and pretend that nearly FIFTEEN YEARS of Tory austerity, kleptocracy and rampant incompetence never happened....
@@gloin10 The UK was growing at a satisfactory rate until Labour took over. Now we are in an almighty mess. Go figure.
@@Doggle85
"The UK was growing at a satisfactory rate until Labour took over"?
Back in reality, the UK's economy fell further faster than any other G7 economy, as a result of both the financial crisis and Covid-19.
It recovered far less well than any other G7 economy.
The UK has massive structural issues which long predate Labour.
Most obviously, a Debt/GDP ratio which was more than 100% before the last GENERAL ELECTION.
Then thee it's historically low productivity, and a huge proportion of the working age population which is not participating in the labour force.
@@gloin10 In the first half of 2024, the UK economy grew by 1.25% in aggregate which would, had that continued (a moot point) translated into a respectable annual growth of 2.5%, which would likely have put the UK first or second in the G7. It was, according to the ONS, "going gangbusters", although I think that's probably overstating it. The UK certainly fell massively due to the 2008 financial crisis and being in the EU didn't help at all. We were slow to recover from the COVID crisis for a number of structural reasons, not because we weren't exporting enough to the EU. The buds of growth we were seeing last year were snuffed out by Labour as we predicted would happen.
I agree that the roots of the UK's structural issues long pre-date the GE - but they also pre-date Brexit. They arise from a number of factors but especially low productivity, as you rightly say. When I look at your last response, we seem to be in agreement.
German here. I'd never thought i might still be watching UK politics in '25...
The German language sadly lacks a word for Schadenfreude...
@@thorstenguenther 🤣 It's not entirely about that though. We have elections coming up, we have the AfD rising and maybe can make use of UKs mistakes with rightwing politics.
@@JorlinJollyfingers Mittlerweile "one world cup" and that would have been chalked off by VAR
Ireland is very happy after 800 years of problems fron the other Island.....we have Survived.....
Actually a lot of small companies have opened up offices/companies and are employing people in order to continue exporting to not only Europe, but also other countries which the EU have trade agreements.
I don't think so
We are a totalitarian state now
I've said before but I think it needs repeating Donald Tusk's comment, when he was President of the EU 'There's a special place in hell for those who went into Brexit without a plan' I think we all know to whom he was referring
Yes the eu losing £350M a week
@@GlynBoughton😂
The UK never paid its full membership fee due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher, instead it paid about one third of it only !!
Very depressing list of stats. To add insult to injury Labour will not acknowledge this because of fear of the right-wing media that is still pro-Brexit.
They would rather impose more cuts than take on the lies & BS of farage, Daily Fail, Excess etc.
If a government with a majority this massive cannot do this then it will never happen. As Morrisey sang: ''spineless bastards''
Unfortunately, I don't see our government doing anything transformative or progressive. Too much corporate lobying and funding, with paralysis by oligarch. They will undo some of the blatant stupidity of the Tories, but little more when we urgently need it.
Unfortunately, the human race is doomed to extinction by the poorest and most stupid among us who constantly admire the oligarchs and vote for them.
Sad to see the Brit’s take such a suicidal decision. What is more shocking is that the country which enacted company law where important decisions required a special resolution (75%) majority decided to go ahead with a simple majority for their most important matter in their history.
Not ‘Brits’, please. Scotland voted to remain in the EU, as did Northern Ireland, although technically not Brits.
Why are you so concerned about the uk?
Brexit, the Never Ending Story 😮
Is the idea to make the UK poorer for foreign investors to buy up whatever they can for cheap when it collapses?
Thanks
That's very kind of you, Ian, thank you.
3:25 I've news for you it's exactly what Brexiteers voted for. I know and have spoken to many commonwealth friends. They absolutely voted for Brexit because they were pissed their relatives didn’t have parity with EU freedoms of movement. Brexit delivered everything they wanted, with massively increased immigration to the UK.
Rob, I have to agree with everything you say but it does not matter because I am French (not my country, no voting rights in the UK). The unfortunate aspect of Brexit is NOW it will take a much bigger share of the UK population to demand a join application to be submitted well in excess of 50%. Instead, today, NO UK political party of significance is pushing for a join-the-EU application. So probably I will die before I see the UK back in the EU. Just too bad.
Being an EU citizen I don't care so much about what the UK decides although I miss my British friends.
As said many times, the UK is welcome to join as a normal country meaning full compliance to EU requirements and rules, ZERO exception and , because of Brexit, only an overwhelming majority to join will do.
Spot on. The brain washed who voted for it in the first place are still brain washed (see reform UK Ltd). The media who pushed the lies first time around will push them harder a second. It's easy to say 'Starmer should grow a spine' but the reality is we, as a country/collective are not ready to admit we were wrong to the point we ignore what the media and other vested interests say to the contrary.
It may be worth mentioning that in July 2020 at the start of the pandemic the EU agreed on a budget of around €1,824 billion for the period 2021-27. The package was also made take into account the impact of the Covid 19 pandemic and to mitigate the damage done to the EU economy in addition to the three safety nets of €540 billion already in place to support businesses and workers in the EU. In Poland for example, the EU support is manifested in what's known as the National Recovery Plan ( Krajowy Plan Odbudowy - KPO). Although it mainly focuses on green energy /digital transformation the purpose is to strengthen the economy ( eg health and the job market) which the current coalition govt is now implementing. The point is, the UK might have been a beneficiary of the EU Recovery Plan had it stayed in the EU, no doubt with larger sums allocated than Poland's €59.8 billion. Makes you wonder why Rachel Reeves will need to sort out a mini budget and impose steeper cuts to public services when things could have looked differently had we stayed in the EU.
Poland will have a higher standard of living than the U.K. within the next decade. Starmer has said he’ll make Brexit work. No he won’t, nobody can.
Brexiteers aren’t listening, and don’t want to listen,
Only 45 more years until all the Brexit benefits come rushing in, according to wise Brexit sage Jacob Rees-Mogg.
I remember that before Brexit, the Brexiteers were urging the public to vote leave because the European Union will become like Greece. Currently the yield for the 10 year Greek government bond is 1.4% (146.7 bp) lower than UK.
Thanks Rob , a very good talk.
A nice line of argument is this: Freedom? You mean sovereignty?
Yes. Exactly.
What is that, sovereignty?
The freedom of self governance.
How does that look like?
Well….you know….such and so…
I’ll help. Sovereignty is the only invisible currency in the world.
Really? What can you buy with it?
Bilateral agreements. The right to cross a border. The right to travel to a certain country. The technical possibility to call to another country. But now the UK has lots of it. Stored in a fridge.
But, but, but, more freedom.
What part didn’t you not understand. LESS FREEDOM!!!
As I said many times before you haven't seen the worst of Brex[sh]it yet! It's like a slow moving freight train that is derailing! The EU wants their euro clearing system in the EU! Banks had a year in 2024 to shift euro-clearing from London to the EU! London will lose trillions😭
We have our freedom you cannot put a price on that
@@GlynBoughton Maybe you should tell that to the majority who wants to rejoin and thinks Brexit was a mistake🤣
Brits need to understand that when they voted for Brexit they voted to become poorer. This is now exactly what they are getting. Of course, this isn't what they expected; however, the allusion of greater riches and a new and better British Empire did its trick. Until Brits loose their allusion that they are still a great country and are special (like their supposedly special US relationship) they will not be able to move forward.
Not ‘Brits’, please. The people of Scotland voted to remain in the EU, as did those in Northern Ireland, although not technically Brits. By the way, ‘allusion’ should be ‘illusion’.
@@clarecrawford9677 True, not all parts of the UK voted to leave, but the result is that all parts of the UK have left the EU and been saddled with exactly the same economic realities. BREXIT doesn't differentiate betweeen a Scotsman or and Englishman; although Northern Ireland is sort of stranded in no-mans land.
I just feel bad for all the small businesses that will be so damaged by this 😢
Before Brexit: Hooray!🎉
After Brexit: BLOODY HELL!😡
farage UK biggest skidmark...!
I would laugh as it was so obvious if it weren't for the fact 52% voted for it and Farage wasn't still walking and squawking 🤷
If you look back it was so successful farage the leader of Brexit couldn't be found for 2 days as he knew the Brexshit chaos he had caused but as holder of an RU passport he didn't care. He deserves snake oil salesman of the world award
Making countries "great" and independent is not really a good idea.
Asronishing that anyone was moronic enough vote for Brexit. It was so obviously going to produce these very outcomes.
Good outcome UK saving £350M a week
We all know Brexit has been a disaster , even most Brexit voters admit to this .
We should be asking , what were the real reasons behind Brexit ?
Because the reasons the leave camp put forward have been proven to be a pack of lies .
I've no doubt at some point in the future we will rejoin but my guess would be 15/20 years .
EUs ATAD = Anti Tax Avoidance Directive was the real reason for Brexit, all the other "reasons" were just there, to get the Brits to vote for Brexit...
farmers voted for brexit. Tough luck turkey.
Boorish doesn't care. Nor do all the other politicians still raking it in.
We tried to tell them.
Well when you make decisions based on lies you have every incentive to bury the consequences.
David Cameron gave us austerity, brexit, dissappeared for a few years to then return. The man has ruined this country
Thanks Rob without exports a country is literally bleeding to death as we can see in / with all countries being sanctioned whether it is Russia, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela. Export means money coming into a country, foreign currencies, valuta and this Brexit outcome did nothing else than creating barriers. 2) There are almost no countries who can provide entirely for 'all' work to be self sufficient, we need foreign investors / companies and sequently work for our people, if possible also by manufacturing and not only services / finances etc in offices behind computer screens. What we see now is massive lay-offs of which some big companies leaving or re locating and in the EU we lobby and fight when companies have been here for many years, to STAY. In some cases we cannot stop it either, but fight for each job, because we realise how difficult it is to replace 500,1000 or more jobs each time. Populists emerge everywhere but after the damage done they don't take no responsability, they blame it each time on something else totally obsessed with their ' poison ideas'. People still assume that the social / health system will help them without end but this system is under high pressure and can hold it for some years but will finally crack down eventually if not enough funds coming in. Last , just suppose the UK would join back the EU, how many obstacles / negociations to overcome, how many veto's from France or ?? countries, all time and delay which will cost again trillions for the UK. >In Belgium after elections in june we managed to stop the populists and keep out the extremists whether right or left and we still haven't got a government right now, why not ? We will have to make some serious changes and cuts which literally NOBODY wants but are be vital to preserve our competion and save our working class force and it will hurt, taxes are at the highest level already, so we NEED to adjust that is the harsh REALITY. Principles and ?? ideologies won't help our average working people keep afloat, and they will be the victim of poverty looming and that is what I wory / fear most.. ( best regards from BE. )
Ah well, you just need to think more positively. . . . 😎
UK Will need to deal with it as there is NO easy way out
Brexit was absolute bonkers!
For me, Brexit meant splitting off the non-UK part of my business and setting up a GmbH in Germany to keep exporting. As we drift further away from EU regulations we increase the price for rejoining. It’s about time that the main UK media started to look after its viewers, readers, or listeners and tell the truth.
Stop using the word. It was a Brand. The gammon still get excited when they hear that word. Start calling it "The vote to leave the EU".
Time for a wealth tax to help pay for it all.....
Isn't Brexit brilliant.....
Nope !
Yes it is.
The funny thing about the immigration thing is that prior to brexthick hospitality and shops and offices etc were staffed by young Spanish and East European women. Now they are all staffed by Indian men 😂😂 is that a brexitty bonus?
Lol. I smell curry
Indeed !
Karma karma.
As a Spanish immigrant living here for 10 years (the last one remaining from a group of 20 friends from Spain, Italy, Portugal, and Greece), it’s sad to see how the UK is collapsing. It’s true that many other European countries are in a similar or worse situation, but from my perspective, the UK should adopt the same agreement as Norway: allowing free movement while maintaining the freedom to negotiate trade deals.
It was hard to hear pro Brexit voters telling us we weren’t needed, that we were taking skilled jobs (as nurses, doctors, or engineers), and that they preferred immigration from Australia or America (which never happened, instead they have millions of people coming from third world economies using the glitch of healthcare assistance visa, while the eu workers don’t even consider the option to come here due to the complexity of the process, while other options like Norway, Ireland, or Switzerland are there and literally no papers / visa needed). Now, the immigration coming in often seems to aim solely at living on benefits or, worse, committing crimes. There are no nurses in our hospital anymore most of my colleagues are now in Switzerland, or Norway, where salaries are better, the ones that still here are all planning to leave.
Investors and talent are fleeing the UK due to high taxes and the lack of skilled professionals. I love the UK for everything it has given me, everything my own country couldn’t, but the people here need to realize that the only way to turn things around is by rejoining the eu market, accepting European immigration, and tightening restrictions on illegal immigration.
End tax avoidance. Restructure the UK national debt.
The Brits made an experiment
Which was very helpful for others. Especially the right parties in Europe thinking on the same idea.🎉😂😢
Johnson and his chums wrecked the country.
Not fair on Bojo & Co. They were aided and abetted by 52% of the U.K. population.
And saving £350M a week@@mickeencrua
Cameron broke us. He gave us Austerity then this ridiculous vote that we didn't need. Cameron doesn't get enough criticism. No where near enough
@@GlynBoughton NO.
Those £ 350 million never existed due to the "Brit bargain" since Thatcher...the UK never paid its full membership fee, instead it paid about one third of it only...
@@saba1030 uk also paid eu £160M a year for Erasmus Thank God for BREXIT and God bless Trump
Britain must remain compliant with the EU. In its laws and regulations
Won't change anything about UKs 3rd country status...
People were warned. The education outcome effects over three decades has worked. The cretins “won”.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brexit voters ended up with boat people. Thanks Brexit voters.
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Idiots don't stop being idiots, just because they screw up. After all, they don't believe they are idiots, even when the bailiff takes their telly, car, and computer. Somehow, it's the fault of others, the world, or just 'bad luck'.
Blind freddy could have predicted the negative impact of brexit.
Well, migrants from Pakistan, India etc. are probably in the UK for the long term, whereas migrants from the EU could come and go without making any commitments to stay e.g. how many Poles packed up their businesses and left? Not so easy going back to Pakistan where the income is a fraction of the UK's amounts. Integration is what the EU project is all about. It works very well in achieving equality for all member states.
But but but..I lived in London from 2006 until 2016 ...the hatred and the deep dislike for the EU was there from the start..I could see it growing and the referendum result was no surprise...economics are useless when it comes to Brexit..most brits rather eat spuds for the rest of their lives then having FOM with the EU...sadly.
Hey Brits, you have your jobs back! You are welcome 😌
Never trust the Tories!😢
Keir Starmer is a Brexiteer. He also voted to invoke article 50. The EU knows that full well and would turn him down if he applies to rejoin. He knows that full well too.
But do British voters realize that?
03:08 - one of the reasons some Brexiters wanted Brexit was precisely that they thought it would mean bringing a wider range of migrant workers in and less EU migrants. Couple that with a points based system they said - we could bring in the best and control numbers.
Worked out well didn't it? 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the updated stats. We really need to re-align with the EU to protect our systems from the oligarch.
The UK feels fucked
And Starmer and Fartage are still not convinced that Brexit is a disaster
I think Starmer is, but he knows a rejoin referendum would bring all the Gammons and Russian bots out in force. I think it's still 50/50 if it came to another referendum.
Wich is a good reason to let them go on with their brexit. It is not in the interest of EU to have a member whose only reason to join would be to repair its wrecked eceonomy.
To me the biggest problem is that so many people in Britain don't feel European!
To them being British is being independent, an island nation, standing strong...
With Donald Trump coming back in power, and with Putin threatening, we need a united Europe, not Brexit.
Well done Rob for keeping the devastating effects of Brexshit in the public eye. Your analysis in this presentation is valued - keep up the good work.
I work in the London Banking space and everything that is listed here was predictable. A real interesting number would be the loss in tax revenue. I have seen so many in the banking space move to the continent who earned decent 6 figure salaries. I doubt the ones who have come provide the same kind of tax revenue.
Are they talking about the loss of the clearing services, which will happen soon?
As the FOM for capital ends June 2025, this will be a huge loss for the City of London, as those financial services are making up about one third of worlds market for clearing services...
@@saba1030 Euro Clearing is just one part of it, but that will take years to move. I'm talking about moving trading and sales staff to the continent.
@horatio71
The deadline is June 2025 ...
The EU27 wanted to do that already after 2008, but UK went to the European court...and won, eventhough the UK never joined the €/Euro zone..but was EU member state...which UK used as a reason to take care of all €/Euroclearing....
Since Brexit the EU27 wants it's currency services back in the EU27, the "passporting" went back into the EU27 January 2024, June this year the "Euroclearing" will be back in the EU27, then Brexit is complete, as the transition period of FOM for capital ends June 2025 !!
Buying replacement parts from UK is now 2 times more expensive than before brexit due to custom charge and raised shipping cost
Anyone who didn't had bucket on their heads knew what it will lead to, sadly I wasn't allowed to vote back in 2016 summer voting...
thank you boris
Bullshit Boris 😂😂🤣
The decimation of Brexit upon this U.K. economy. Where does it end?
The problem with democracy, the scientist has the same value as the illiterate, the philantropist has the same value as the thief and the murderer, the wise has the same value as the ignorant, the hard worker has the same value as the lazy parasite. The voting system is the most flawed, it's the only system where everyone is equal, but equal doesn't mean it's right.
You have nailed one of the issues with democracy or the misuse of democracy in the case of the Brexit referendum. The decision whether or not to leave the EU should have been made by people who have demonstrable knowledge of how the EU works, the UK's role within it and the potential advantages and disadvantages of leaving vs staying. Asking the population to vote leave or remain is like asking the population how to treat your chest pains. Even in a democracy, we use informed experts to make decisions for us on matters that laypeople would be clueless about, that is why if my car breaks down, I contact a mechanic, I don't put a poll the public.
How has this only got 2k likes.. reminds me of the film phrase "you can't handle the truth" for (most) journos..😮 Shocked not surprised
6:09 Hear, hear: Julian Jessop says Brexit was a shock to the economy.
BREXIT = UK ECONOMY COLLAPSE
I will never forgive Johnson for what he signed up for just to win the election the referendum was different to what we got well done Rob Take care