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New York State Has a Teacher Shortage Problem. Here's Why

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  • Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
  • Delve into the ongoing teacher shortage across New York.
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  • @redryder5078
    @redryder5078 Рік тому +51

    I’m a current public school teacher and I can tell that problem isn’t solely the pay , though it is a factor, but lack of support or disciplinary procedures to assure a safe -productive working environment . We’ve always had to handle child-adolescent antics for little pay but our for-educators didn’t have to putt up with routine verbal and physical assaults from students who receive zero consequences in return . In fact, parents and admin even enable such behavior with “ kids can do no wrong “ teacher blaming mentalities .
    Before everyone gets on me about how teaching “ isn’t that hard of a job”. I’ll be the first to admit that the profession isn’t a s dangerous as construction/ automotive, taxing as working in healthcare, trucking, ext , and provides many perks ( benefits and time off) . Nevertheless, this profession that offers such perks still has a nationwide shortage , what does that tell you?

    • @officialmelpeachey
      @officialmelpeachey 11 місяців тому

      get out of education

    • @officialmelpeachey
      @officialmelpeachey 9 місяців тому

      teachers ands principals] under federal law aren't allow to discipline it has absolutely no place in schools. schools are about academics only

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 9 місяців тому +2

      Teaching isn’t difficult, it’s impossible. Although I taught for 7 years and pretty much winged it all the time, finding it impossible to take the job seriously, and even had the highest pass rate in the state as a GED tutor, the job nevertheless is fundamentally impossible largely owing to one size fits all phony academic curriculum in which all of the kids are falsely regarded as college material, so there are no alternative programs for those with either low IQs or personality disorders. Since no one takes teaching seriously then the only alternative is to automate the job out of existence and convert the public schools to online academy with paid babysitters and security guards. At any rate, the lecture method of teaching is dead and needs to be buried before it stinks even worse than it already does.

  • @tomm6963
    @tomm6963 Рік тому +47

    Lack of support for teachers, everything is your fault.
    Lack of appropriate pay for the area.
    Lack of respect for teacher from students, parents and admin.
    All add up to unhappiness among teachers.

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan Рік тому +43

    Blaming everything on COViD is getting pretty old. Teachers are leaving because these days they have do so much more than teaching because of bad parenting.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      So true. In fact, perversely, teachers miss the remote teaching they got paid to do during the pandemic shut-downs. This is why I believe the public schools will become increasingly like online academies.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 9 місяців тому +2

      Actually many teachers liked remote instruction during the COVID lock downs but then became disgusted when the kids returned to school seeing as how it is impossible to demand that they behave so infantile have the kids now become owing to being so indulged for so long. You’re always better off the sooner you quit in teaching. I used to admire the new hires at South High in Cleveland who would wisely quit during their first week. In retrospect I too should have quit after something like 3 days. I quit navy OCS after 3 days and that was one of the smartest things I ever did. When something is irredeemably chicken-shit it’s always time to quit right then and there.

  • @jrm371
    @jrm371 9 місяців тому +11

    The biggest issue I’ve personally come across is that there are simply too many responsibilities and not enough time to do it all. The workload is insane and it’s disrespectful to receive the low pay on top of that.

  • @mathisnotforthefaintofheart
    @mathisnotforthefaintofheart Рік тому +22

    I am inclined to believe that NY is not the only region in the country with a teacher's shortage. This nation has a severe cultural problem when it comes to (respect of) educators.

  • @marilynboyd9892
    @marilynboyd9892 Рік тому +62

    Teacher exodus. I I know the pandemic pushed people over the edge. But this is Not a new problem. Teachers have been leaving for several years other reasons like increased violence, lack of support from administration. Pay, lack of classroom supplies, just to name a few. When you see a child with no jacket or they need shoes and socks many classroom teachers will buy these things for them. Including

    • @littlesongbird1
      @littlesongbird1 Рік тому +8

      When I left teaching for good and went into insurance...it was amazing that if I needed something I could get it. Paper? Pen? A mouse? When in the classroom we were on our own. I had a friend whose school wanted her to pay for her own bulletin board supplies but made it a requirement to have them decorated.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      In other words an “unfunded mandate”. Everybody should quit and let the schools automate to brick & mortar online academy with daycare workers and security guards. Teaching as a profession needs to be automated out of existence. To hell with all the asshole parents and their little assholes as well.@@littlesongbird1

  • @clonedyots
    @clonedyots Рік тому +43

    Trauma doesn't excuse victimizing others
    Children need leadership love expectations and consequences
    Teachers need support respect as a professional and triple the pay

  • @cherrlynnmurray
    @cherrlynnmurray Рік тому +25

    Let's stop beating around the bush...Teacher's have been turned into high price/disrespected (by all) BABY SISTERS!!

    • @redryder5078
      @redryder5078 Рік тому +1

      As a current public school teacher, I say you speak the truth .

    • @IronEagleMath
      @IronEagleMath Рік тому +2

      It would be FABULOUS if teachers actually got babysitter pay!!!!

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      I know a teacher who is a professional baby-sitter with a day care in her house. It’s actually a better job than teaching school.

  • @alienboogieman
    @alienboogieman Рік тому +21

    It's the little s**ts that teachers seem to blame for their burn out. The pay and administration don't matter as much if kids were not behaving like they never been disciplined correctly. So, parents are the ones at fault for not being parents to their kids and how to show respect and control their emotions.

    • @8270361507
      @8270361507 Рік тому

      This is why the Universe fucked up by allowing dirt bags to be parents and see all the good people suffer. Funny how the world works.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      You have a good point. The fact is teaching has always been a crappy job even when there was better discipline. Teaching pay is no longer in line with what college graduates expect. Plus teaching is being automated to the point where the job would more properly be perhaps a tutoring position requiring only a two year degree. This crap will never get properly sorted out so teacher shortages will become so endemic that instruction will have to be completely automated onto tablet devices as a stop-gap. Then at that point increasing numbers of parents will elect to switch to online academy because the public schools themselves will be little more than brick and mortar online academy with child care workers.

  • @dannyleo4791
    @dannyleo4791 Рік тому +14

    I used to be a teacher in NYC. No longer. I have since left and have no regrets. Good riddance.

  • @deborahjones1350
    @deborahjones1350 Рік тому +19

    The disrespect toward good employees is off the charts. People like to be listed to . Problems are not being solved. The parents have no voice. The good employees are being removed, and the bad one stays. Not all employees are bad, but the bad people should pack their desk.

    • @WillG67
      @WillG67 Рік тому +3

      It's the same in nursing. Work place politics. The good ones get pushed out and the bad ones stay. It's not even the managers usually, it's the other coworkers and all the high school drama.

  • @convergencec1811
    @convergencec1811 Рік тому +17

    Hostile work environments. Where are the teachers in this interview?

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 8 місяців тому

      Anywhere and everywhere… that’s where.

  • @rrickarr
    @rrickarr Рік тому +19

    I am no admirer of Bernie Sandes BUT he is absolutely correct when he points out that we live in a country that values athletes, entertainers, and movie stars more than teachers. Athletes, movie stars, and entertainers should make all the money they can but teachers are essential and they need to be rewarded justly. We complain about immigrants coming and taking jobs-----what else can America do if it refuses to support education and the people who educate our children who should be filling those professions. Then we have the nightmare in Florida where the governor is worried about a teacher showing a Disney movie or about a passage of book that describes the realities of human life, than giving teachers what they need to do their work and giving students what they need to be able to attend school. America is sick!!!!

    • @franko8572
      @franko8572 Рік тому +2

      No, your governor is concerned about gay theory being taught by groomer teachers to children.

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 Рік тому

      Right wing nonsense. Gay theory?🤣

    • @franko8572
      @franko8572 Рік тому

      @@stevenhenry5267 Gay theory, yes.

  • @fremontpathfinder8463
    @fremontpathfinder8463 Рік тому +8

    There is actually 500,000 fewer teachers and after the Great Recession that was 600, 000 fewer so in about 10 years we have lost over 1 million teachers in America. Collaboration is overrated. Teaching is an art as well as a science and we need to allow teachers to be creative. And there are way too many meetings.

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 8 місяців тому

      Well good thing ppl are having less kids bc they can’t afford them. 😂

  • @vickigrier7438
    @vickigrier7438 11 місяців тому +6

    You don't allow them to correct kids, disrespectful parents. I don't blame them quitting. Bring back the paddle in front of entire class. Parents that don't reinforce proper behavior must also sit thru the class to control their kid or kick kid completely out of system. Then they must pay tutors

  • @johninsalisbury2010
    @johninsalisbury2010 Рік тому +8

    then you get some districts that give 50s even if the kid does NO WORK, and will pass those that should have failed

    • @XXLSSBBW
      @XXLSSBBW Рік тому +2

      Same her in Canada. Teacher's are not allowed to fail students.

  • @stormchaser419
    @stormchaser419 Рік тому +4

    The US has a teacher shortage. Why??? It's not even remotely worth it anymore.

  • @cdheidt
    @cdheidt Рік тому +13

    It’s a problem nationwide.

    • @XXLSSBBW
      @XXLSSBBW Рік тому +1

      It's becoming an issue here in Canada. One teacher, in Mississauga, has complained about how out of control the students are at the school. Fights breaking out in hallways. Sometimes between teacher and student. Students getting pushed into lockers. It's even been said that some students have smeared shit all over the walls in the washrooms. If things don't change schools might as well shut down and all the money they would normally get should get invested into advancing A.I. even further than it is now.

  • @artofaries1113
    @artofaries1113 Рік тому +8

    Let the parents teach their bada$$ kids.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      The schools need to be automated into brick & mortar online academy. Since teaching is no longer worth bothering with it needs to be automated out of existence.

  • @turntablesrockmyworld9315
    @turntablesrockmyworld9315 Рік тому +7

    Here teacher shortages are large and it's been years. Lack of admin support, a government that is bent to destroy public education (Conservative) and violence in schools, a public that doesn't respect them , etc. I know 3 teachers, all 3 are in other careers now. Interestingly, I went overseas I couldn't believe the respect given to teachers and public support. Bad community values are tolerated in schools.

  • @Praevus
    @Praevus Рік тому +5

    It's the students.
    Always was. Always is. Always will be.

    • @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et
      @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et 11 місяців тому

      *and other teachers. It’s not all students. We need to be honest.

  • @blakemccabe15
    @blakemccabe15 Рік тому +8

    masks and vaccines were really just minor issues compared to the bigger reasons for teachers leaving. low wages, the amount of money teachers spend out of their own pockets, high work loads with unpaid hours expectations, and the amount of stress that comes with the job. then, add teaching virtual with no real contact with students where they essentially lost over a year of education but teachers were expected to keep things going without proper supports was bigger than questions of masks and vaccines. That added to those already listed issues above.

    • @XXLSSBBW
      @XXLSSBBW Рік тому +1

      Don't forget school shootings. There's a school shooting almost EVERY month in America. I wouldn't be surprised if that's another reason to why some teachers quit. They're afraid for their lives.

  • @catherinewilliams9680
    @catherinewilliams9680 Рік тому +6

    I wonder how many countries have been experiencing this issue. I've just watched a couple 60 minutes programs in Australia. It showed that parents were bullying teachers and that the Government in Canberra wasn't interested in modernizing/improving how the education system functions.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      This issue is all pervasive throughout the English speaking countries where owing to the class system tax supported schools have always been crap. And yes, we do have a class system in the USA where curiously the highest status schools are Episcopalian boarding schools, or the American branch of the Church of England. I guided at a private canoe tripping camp which had lots of Episcopalian preppies and they would laugh at the very concept of public school, since of course, public schools are crap.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 9 місяців тому

      The public schools are the worst in the English speaking countries owing to the class system in which people who are serious about their children’s education are expected to send them to boarding school or at the very least private day school. The notion that there could be excellent academically oriented public schools and that the unteachable would be diverted to trades training prior to becoming teenagers is more of a German approach. In the English speaking countries the academic track is typically ruined by being the only track, as it is falsely considered appropriate even for imbeciles.

  • @nadalineL
    @nadalineL Рік тому +4

    No more pats on the back and teacher appreciation pens. The “support” we need is pay and respect equal to the job. We can see in our paycheck we are not a valued profession and though we have the same MA and BA and years of schooling, we can see that admin and policy makers (the ones who don’t actually teach children) are actually supported, valued and highly paid.
    This means our society, for all its useless lip service, does NOT actually value children or those who work with, train, educate, or help raise up children.
    You don’t have to say anything or do any fancy study. Look at the paychecks.
    “Caring” professions (nursing too) are supposed to just live off serving people and be happy with that. We are not to ask for pay commiserate with the incredibly vital part we actually play in society, not to mention our credentials, experience, expertise and education.
    As to the conditions, soldiers did not even want to teach in public schools when recruited during a shortage. Think about that: active duty was better than teaching in a public school.
    Many teachers have PTSD symptoms. It can be that bad.

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 8 місяців тому

      Anytime there’s an appreciation day for a profession it’s a red flag 🚩 that’s it’s a severely underpaid area. And teachers get an entire appreciation week… think about that. Teach = you’re going to be poor.

  • @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et
    @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et Рік тому +6

    I actually left bc of other teachers, and tbh, I say this as a former student and teacher, a large chunk of teachers deserve it, except the good ones. I only feel bad for the teachers that are kind and actually care about their students and coworkers.
    Besides that, the only real victims here are the kids and teachers who pour their heart into what they do

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому +1

      One of the reasons I left was because I thought the other teachers were dullards and assholes. I became a merchant seaman so I wouldn’t have to put up with female co-workers so much although we did have some women officers on the cargo ships. Finally I rejected the notion of having a regular job and just became a barber: no paperwork, no co-workers, permitted to have a gun, allowed to refuse service to assholes.

    • @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et
      @NarutoUzumaki-xg9et 11 місяців тому

      @@marcmeinzer8859 Thank you for sharing your experience. I relate 100% and to be honest, many of my male coworkers would agree but are scared to say it out loud. We need to start being more vocal but it seems that whenever there is a field where there’s a concentration of women, the workplace is filled with gossip, backbiting and drama.
      Anyhow, I’m glad things worked out for you and you are much happier. That’s what success looks like to me.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      Shitty co-workers are one problem. The other two major problems are no overtime for teacher’s prep and paper grading along with no disciplinary sanctions for the young assholes who should be shunted off into manual arts training when they persist in their illiteracy and anti-intellectualism.@@NarutoUzumaki-xg9et

  • @joelwillis2043
    @joelwillis2043 11 місяців тому +2

    Complete erosion of the profession.

  • @seantwyman9340
    @seantwyman9340 Рік тому +20

    Parents can’t spank kids!!! It started with THAT.

    • @friedrichjunzt
      @friedrichjunzt Рік тому +1

      They certainly didnt spank you enough for leaving such stupid comments on youtube. 🙄

    • @rrickarr
      @rrickarr Рік тому +11

      @@friedrichjunzt Friedrich: Sean´s comment is not stupid at all. Up until the late 70´s it was perfectly normal for parent to hand out corporal punishment. Since that went out the window (Dr. Spock) it all went downhill and now poorly behaved students rule the school because they know the teacher cannot do anything!!!!! Go and teach in a school and you will see that very quickly.

    • @XXLSSBBW
      @XXLSSBBW Рік тому +2

      @@rrickarr I remember my mother use to spank me for misbehaving. I was a quick learner though. I always gave things a second before I acted up.

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 Рік тому

      Ridiculous

    • @stevenhenry5267
      @stevenhenry5267 Рік тому

      False

  • @Tonia682
    @Tonia682 6 місяців тому

    I began teaching in 1994 and this profession and society has changed so much. Less creativity for teachers , ridiculous amount of testing (even for my young students), increasingly disrespectful kids and parents and excessive time demands has taken the joy out of the profession. Overall I still love teaching but the demands has me at the point where I’m ready to retire.

  • @AtheoGay
    @AtheoGay 7 днів тому +1

    Teachers love teaching but are discovering that they are worth more than they are given. The job is not respected. Teachers are not respected.

  • @marcmeinzer8859
    @marcmeinzer8859 Рік тому +6

    The central long term problem has been inappropriate curriculum owing to a sort of total oblivious to the implications of kids having IQs which are really too low for any sort of academic success with the ongoing decline in vocational programs for the less verbally gifted. In other words, college is not for everybody, and specifically community colleges have extremely high flunk out and drop out rates. Or to a great extent the sort of industrial arts training formerly so common at the secondary level has migrated into community colleges where perhaps people take brief vocational programs then leave after obtaining some sort of a job certification which may only require one semester of credit such as phlebotomy for instance, or the entry level medical lab technicians who draw blood in hospitals. High schools in particular have not kept up with advances in machining and tool & dye making typically either having no offerings at all or perhaps inadequate offerings using obsolete machines which are of limited value in the job market. Expecting everyone to be able to cope with college prep is simply absurd considering that the average adult in society has a sixth grade reading level and an IQ of about 100.

  • @marielizapaniagua7288
    @marielizapaniagua7288 7 місяців тому

    I’m currently a lNYC public school teacher and I’m done! After 7 years of this nonsense, I can’t anymore. Now that I have two toddlers I can’t keep working at home grading tons of assignments no one looks at and planning stupid lessons that don’t work because I’m supposed to teach high school level content to students who are at a 2nd grade reading and writing level, that’s impossible to do.

  • @DemonKing1515
    @DemonKing1515 Рік тому +3

    Yo, this is a REALLY good story! Definitely needs more traction and teacher attention. Don't forget to share y'all!

  • @inthevault9603
    @inthevault9603 8 місяців тому

    I can’t wait to retire. I have at least 5 1/2 years before I can retire but the line is on the horizon. Thank God.

  • @regorflora7915
    @regorflora7915 Рік тому +1

    We got plenty of good teachers here. You know who we are. Just call and we will provide

  • @LarryHable
    @LarryHable Рік тому

    We want our children to succeed AND wear a mask !

  • @KC-cx6nn
    @KC-cx6nn 8 місяців тому +1

    If teachers could express themselves honestly…..the way they do when administration is not around…..this video would be very different 😂

    • @inthevault9603
      @inthevault9603 8 місяців тому

      Most definitely. Teachers are not respected from the superintendent on down. It’s trickled down disrespect. 😮😂

  • @franko8572
    @franko8572 Рік тому +2

    Toni Gamils, the woman in this video makes $144,352 a year. She has two months off every summer, and will receive a pension of roughly $70,000 when she retires. For those that don’t know, a pension is an annual payment made by an employer, or in this case, the state, every year for the rest of her life.

  • @Member-ur7np
    @Member-ur7np Рік тому +4

    New York is just now going back? I’ve been back in the classroom since August 2020.

  • @Greengeist05
    @Greengeist05 11 місяців тому +1

    Young people don’t want to be teachers; they want tech or media jobs. Of the few that do make it into the classroom, half will leave within the first five years, leaving the gaps to be filled by anyone with a clean background check and a pulse. For all of their self aggrandizing rhetoric, the teachers unions have proven that they are completely incapable of turning this trend around. Politicians are to self important and cowardly to work towards any real change. Parents have failed to discipline their kids or taught them to really value their education. The entire school system is garbage at helping students discover their passions and set them on a meaningful trajectory. This is a broken system from top to bottom. Only after we realize this can we make any real headway toward improving our children’s education.

    • @marcmeinzer8859
      @marcmeinzer8859 11 місяців тому

      The most fucktard aspect of the schools is their widespread abandonment of vocational training for the less intellectually gifted or in other words the bottom 70% of the population covering everyone from borderline retarded up to high functioning dull normal. When you send everyone to college without regard to ability you get massive student loan debt aggravated by high failure rates resulting in the non-degreed being stuck with student loan debt even though they never completed their degrees. They would’ve been better off taking carpentry or auto-shop.

    • @nappyqueen86
      @nappyqueen86 9 місяців тому

      Bingo

  • @danielgolarz674
    @danielgolarz674 5 місяців тому

    I'll tell you why NY has a teacher shortage. The ridiculous out of control OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING for k-12 teachers in this country. I'm the author of EIGHT DAYS IN AN INNER CITY SCHOOL

  • @awilliams4543
    @awilliams4543 9 місяців тому

    wheres the beef?

  • @zazzyzzz
    @zazzyzzz Рік тому

    that's better

  • @scifyry
    @scifyry 10 місяців тому

    A lot of people leaving NY in general. They all moved South.

  • @larryedgar638
    @larryedgar638 Рік тому

    1) Stop paying administration high salaries and pay teachers more. 2) Administration back up teachers on discipline of students. 3) Remove trouble makers from classes. 4) Teach basics, math , science etc. not CRT. 5) Only State and American flags in class rooms. Oh but wasn't all of these in schools before they went WOKE.

  • @eddiechung675
    @eddiechung675 11 місяців тому +1

    No, teaching is a predatory position that is attractive to younger people because they are familiar with the school system. Then when the reality of what a 9-5 job looks like consistently sets in, their immaturity starts to show. In reality, they should have prepared for the harshness of the job and not expected a fantasy world where they get paid for being essentially happy and playing with children.

    • @abprairiegurl
      @abprairiegurl 8 місяців тому

      What are you talking about? Clearly, you are not a teacher.

  • @officialmelpeachey
    @officialmelpeachey 11 місяців тому

    theirs not a teacher shortage theirs a student shortage most kids are home school

    • @jayscards8640
      @jayscards8640 10 місяців тому

      Do you have data to support this claim?

    • @abprairiegurl
      @abprairiegurl 8 місяців тому

      Is that homeschooling math you're doing?

  • @belugabath
    @belugabath 11 місяців тому

    Use technology to teach,there is no other way

  • @eddiechung675
    @eddiechung675 11 місяців тому

    Why should we honor a profession that is one of the easiest majors in any college or university and is low skill?

    • @jeh0089
      @jeh0089 11 місяців тому

      Given your position, I take it you feel you could homeschool your children from K-12 or pay to have them educated in private school. Think of the time and/or cost involved when public school is no longer and option. As for the low skill portion of your comment. I see the level of skill required increasing in the upper elementray grades and beyond. I think parents get a good deal when childless people like me subsidize them though taxes. Also, consider the costs associated with continually having the recruit new school employess as burned out staff leave.

    • @jayscards8640
      @jayscards8640 10 місяців тому +2

      Says someone who likely has never taught a single day in his life. Eddie, go and substitute for a day in any urban, or for that matter, impoverished rural school then come back and see how laughable this comment is.

    • @eddiechung675
      @eddiechung675 9 місяців тому

      @@jeh0089 nope, school days are slowly shortening to 4 days a week and there is a teacher shortage. Teaching jobs (in the lower grades and not college) are low entry and education majors are agreed upon to be easier than most. My children can learn on their own, they don't need a street person that took an easy online course to teach them things they can do it faster and better on their own.

    • @eddiechung675
      @eddiechung675 9 місяців тому

      @@jayscards8640 lol, any bozo who asks for a teaching job can get it. It's low pay for a reason, low skill set and a super easy major with joke classes.

    • @jayscards8640
      @jayscards8640 9 місяців тому

      @@eddiechung675 Clearly this boy did not read deeply enough into the comment to which he replied. Alas, picking up on inferences in reading is not a strong suit of those with substandard literacy skills.
      Let’s try it again, Eddie. Read my first comment and stay on topic in your response.
      If you don’t understand the gist of my claim, we can always put you in the corner wearing an extra large dunce cap.
      Get back under your bridge, junior.