Oswald’s Mill Audio: You've Never Heard Music Sound This Good
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2015
- Walking into the showroom of Oswald's Mill Audio is like entering into another dimension where music is no longer what it was outside the walls of the airy Brooklyn loft. The sheer presence of the equipment in the room teases your senses in anticipation of the sound that's waiting to burst out.
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Happiness Is by Podington Bear
We come from the future.
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I can't even imagine how good this sounds. I would literally spend hours in this room doing nothing but listening to music.
Listening to it using my Creative Sound blaster, sounds good
Its funny how much people hate because of the price, when indeed you guys dont even start to know the complexity of these systems. The Imperia loudspeakers are a 4 way conical horn setup that uses 4 Cogent drivers, special drivers that cost about 15 to 17 thousand dollars each, these drivers are field coil and operate in DC voltage, needing a rectifier and special tubes. By the end , using correct vinyl player, pre amp, and Single Ended Triode amplification, with the field coil drivers you get a sound unmatched by any fucking bluetooth speaker. Clearly this is time consuming and expensive, since none of these things are mass produced, sourcing each element of production, or making what you can in house, one of their amps alone has 16 custom wound transformers, 12B4 low mu triodes driving AL4 mesh plates coupled to a copper plated GM70 directly heated triode output tubes. If you have heard even one field coil speaker you would realise just how special these systems are. At the end of the day, its bespoke audio, for people who really want to pursue deeper audio levels, a sound unmatched, things that are forgotten now and will be lost in 20 years, whoever gets a hold of these type of speakers are getting a little touch of history, sadly enough I ain't got no money for them.
I go to concert halls, opera houses and jazz bars/clubs (live) when I want to *listen* to music. I only appreciate the live immersive experience.
Of course you do.
Mr. Weiss is a man who obviously believes in his product. These speakers are expensive but this is the price of a hand crafted product made in small quantities. In fairness, there are mass produced speakers in the same price range. I have never been a fan of horns but it appears that Weiss has corrected many of the problems with this design. I am in favor of anyone who pushes sound reproduction in the right direction, regardless of the design philosophy.
yeap, chinese also use a lot of hands to make products... but westerners dont' care... cheaper is better,human rights, wow!
I love tube amps . amazing work.
Only the best Clark!
From what I've read, the room has as much a role in good sound than the speakers. Looking at his showroom, it looks like they neglected room treatments.
They have several rooms, some have do have room treatment. But you are absolutely correct In that the room has a large role in the sound one is hearing. He is in a large room with a high ceiling, so he might not have as much of a problem as compared to if he was in a smaller room with lower ceilings and smaller foot print. Plus the horns direct the sound more focused towards the listener and may not have as much reflecting sound off the side walls.
They have several rooms where they show their products. I have seen photos of other rooms where they absolutely do have some room treatment. I don't know if they have enough or the proper room treatment, but they did have room treatment none the less.
No they don't have a fully ground up built room. Believe it or not, many audio companies don't. And even amongst some recording studios don't always have the best sounding rooms and proper room treatment to deal with what issues they might have.
Room acoustics is by far the most neglected aspect of the audio world. I wish it wasn't that way, but to design and build a proper room, it has to be a certain size length, width and ceiling height at a minimum, and those rooms can cost EASILY in the several hundred thousand dollar range. Trust me, just sticking a few hundred dollars of acoustic foam isn't going to cut it. Especially with low frequency and especially with sound isolation from outside noises.
Here's a question. Knowing that most homes don't have properly built and treated room for listening to stereos, what is a audio gear mfg. supposed to do? Design, build and test their products in rooms that are similar to what an average customer is going to have for their products? Or design, build and test for rooms that are pristine in every way, which is a different environment from where the product is actually going to be listened to? Tough call for any audio gear mfg.
Oneness100 Very good point. However, I'd like to think that someone who can afford these speakers has the means to place these in a properly designed and treated room. We are talking a small mortgage after all.
The thing is though, if they can sound good in that room then you know there is scope for improvement in your home. Is that not preferable to hearing them in a heavily treated room and then being let down in your living room?
The room is about 50% of what you are hearing. If it's built and treated properly, you don't hear the room, you hear your system how it should. If the room isn't treated, then they'll make anything sound like crap, so why spend big bucks on a stereo where the room makes it sound like crap?
Yep the room and where speakers are placed are probably the biggest factors in sound reproduction.
B&O attempted to get around that with the Beolab 90 speakers. The speakers analyse the sound they are producing and make compensation for the room acoustics by changing the output and phase of one or more of the 18 drivers. From what I've read they seemed pretty successful and they were only 80k a pair.
Investing in an Oswald Mills Audio setup for my home and studio
Looks interesting
Soulville by Ben Webster ❤
Paul Klipsch was a pioneer. It's not for nothing that his Klipschorn is on permanent display in the Smithsonian Institute.
Wow, that sounds so good! Where can I buy these units?
280.000$ never Ever!!!
BestBuy
The Guy Fieri of audio
“Sound technology has been declining over the last century” and then “I build this equipment from the knowledge of 1920s motion picture gear”.
Ahhh yes, the days of sound-on-film, sound-on-disc, the glorious vitaphone whose shellac records had to be thrown away because of wear and tear after 10 projections. Those were the days of real hifi
what 80 percent of the music i record myself goes away ... where does it go ? sorry dude i master to 320 mp3 and wav but i cant hear the diference and i have 800 dollar bi amped studio monitors in a dead room . the cluster of cat 5 cables jammed but in site next to the ancient piece of "oooh look something old" room art said a lot . no thank you , i would not like a steaming cup of snake oil .
*"if you listen to mp3 80% of the music is gone" i bet this guy would fail a blind a/b test between 320 mp3 and any hifi source of his choice*
Oh he definitely would!
How much you got to bet with ?
I've tried your test. Not with OMA equipment but with seriously high end analogue equipment with 180g vinyl. The difference is not even close.
Yeah a good DAC and high quality music streaming source you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference in fact I’m sure most would prefer the streaming of it was a blind test.
This equipment isn't for the masses !!!
Only for the super rich obviously ....
wonderful high-tech design ... but no more - labs, anechoic cameras are needed to create acoustic boxes, conductors must be invited, a lot of experiments ... but there is no science in its products - there is marketing ... I'm sure there will be buyers ... well and for us for the poor - there are many ordinary-looking devices that really know how to play music)))
Weed and a Bluetooth speaker, and you get the same experience.
for 1/100th of the price.
@@hifijohn *1/2000- these are $280,000 speakers + turntable and preamp
He's playing on the belief that more expensive equipment mean that it's better, and also the consumer buying his gear must be more sophisticated and intelligent.
You're sitting on your computer judging a system you've never heard. I'm not one bit sophisticated, but at least I take the trouble to experience good systems and am bright enough to appreciate the fact that expensive systems sound a billion times better than any system I've ever had.
@@thegrimyeaper Studio monitors and a well treated room are all you need, after all, that's what your music was mixed on
The OG Lavarr Ball.
The Snake Oil is Strong with This One...
It really doesn't matter how much money one has... no one can afford to be ripped off...ask Bernie Madoffs victims
Buying a product Is based on what someone wants to spend their money on. With OMA, they invite people to their listening facilities and they also invite them to the factory to see the mfg. process. If I was going to spend $300K or more, I would love to do a factory tour of the products I'm considering, as well as to listen to their products in an environment where it's on a more private basis. If someone likes the product and that's what they want, then there's nothing wrong with it. They have the choice to buy whatever it is they want at whatever price point.
EVERYONE that has spent more than a few months around high end audio knows that once you go past a certain point, the price tag goes up on a log scale and there are diminishing returns. The same thing happens with ANY product. Cars, clothing, jewelry, furniture, etc. etc.
Bernie Madoff is a total different thing that buying high end audio. That's a completely different, so comparing the two is just ridiculously silly.
People that have lots of disposable income will do what others think is crazy, but to them, they can afford it and it's THEIR money. They typically like to possess what others can't and they know there's a price to pay for exclusivity.
It sounds like you are jealous and you don't understand the word "exclusive".
I don’t really think this is better than any other tube from jadis, ar, Kondo etc, and this guy uses PCB are you kidding me ?
All the parts are from the normal market and he say space stuff ?
The PCB is the least of issues here, a well made PCB won't affect the sound
weird
Look at the beautiful snake oil.
look at the salty poor people commenting about how this gear is a scam
this Guy is a scammer
theres a video to promote the speaker, and he says alot of crap. here:
ua-cam.com/video/wX65iSZTI7E/v-deo.html
Beautifully reproduced music? Real is something you get on concerts and live acts and it's something you should experience from time to time not everyday at your home. Marketing bla bla bla
Hipster sensationalist crap. And cheap mill work on top of it all.
There is nothing about these products from a manufacturing perspective that justifies the cost to me.
MTO in high-labor-cost countries, low-volume-production of components (even sourcing their tubes from Russia and China, not cheap). The millwork may not be exceptional from a fine cabinetry point of view, but it isn't awful. They are quarrying slate, which isn't cheap but you are right, the markup on their slate TT base is probably an order of magnitude greater than the price of the same size piece used in a kitchen countertop or furniture application. The metalwork on their horn speakers seems crude, but that may be intentional and just not something I appreciate. They evidently have a clientele who appreciate their work. If I were interested in horns (I'm not) I would be shopping Avantgarde's lines, which still seem to be made to fit ordinary rooms (even if they shoot their catalogue in lofts, like many do.)
This gear is for rich people. Nothing wrong with that.
@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 Right, but I can make the very same equipment in my garage with a circular saw, lol.