What is the Best Catholic Missal?

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  • @CFN_Official
    @CFN_Official  5 днів тому +3

    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - 04:45 Intro and History
    04:45 - 06:08 The Saint Andrew's Missal
    06:08 - 08:12 The Father Lasance
    08:12 - 10:18 The Angelus Press and Baronius Press
    10:18 - 10:38 Best Overall and Holy Week
    10:38 - 11:41 The Saint Edmund Campion
    11:41 - 12:10 Obscure Missal Overview
    12:10 - 13:48 The Bishop Sheen Sunday Missal
    13:48 - 15:01 The Father Stedman's Missal(s)
    15:01 - 18:01 The Maryknoll Missal
    18:01 - 19:28 The New Marian Missal
    19:28 - 21:10 The St. Joseph Missal
    21:10 - 22:48 Conclusion

  • @CatholicChickAZ
    @CatholicChickAZ 5 днів тому +14

    How interesting! I have a 1958 St Andrew’s Missal that my boss willed to me when she passed. I absolutely love it!

    • @duke927
      @duke927 5 днів тому +1

      I have several St. Andrews. Mostly around 1958 ish. They are in my opinion the best Missals. I have a couple of St. Joseph’s Missals around 1962 ish and St. Andrew’s still is superior to me.

    • @CatholicChickAZ
      @CatholicChickAZ 5 днів тому +1

      @@duke927wow, you have a few! It’s not easy to find these old ones and they are expensive, I got lucky. I love all the detailed explanations in it. Not in the newer published missals.

    • @duke927
      @duke927 5 днів тому

      @ I look for them. The Daughter’s of Mary Press also has a reprint of a St. Andrew’s Missals and a reprint Father Lachance Missal. But I do look for them in old book stores etc.

  • @mmk9496
    @mmk9496 5 днів тому +8

    That was very informative. Thank you Murray!

  • @jacksoncastelino04
    @jacksoncastelino04 5 днів тому +6

    Pray for The Restoration of Traditional Latin Mass

  • @bengoolie5197
    @bengoolie5197 5 днів тому +7

    This is an excellent, informative post! Thank you for this, and for all the work you do.

  • @johncassani6780
    @johncassani6780 5 днів тому +6

    The old Fr. Lasance missals were great. They had all of the Latin and English, with both in the same size print.

  • @BeauPalmer-x3p
    @BeauPalmer-x3p 4 дні тому +2

    I have my mother's 1959 St. Joseph. It suffices and it is nice to hold the missal of the woman who gave me the faith.

  • @Makeitliquidfast
    @Makeitliquidfast 4 дні тому +1

    You've enlightened a Catholic church mural painter before starting a project for an TLM parish, Rene De Cramer is high standard but well worth the investigation. Thank you AMDG

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 5 днів тому +2

    22:09
    ..a missal is a good way to catch a glimmer of the whole shine…perfect🎉!

  • @Leocomander
    @Leocomander 5 днів тому +3

    I loved the message on 17:32.
    Some people see the 65 as a good compromise between the TLM and the NOM, but in reality it is the worst of both worlds.

  • @mary-ellendurkin163
    @mary-ellendurkin163 5 днів тому +1

    I’m 77 years old. As a child my prayer book had Latin translation in the American translation and it and I was able to follow it beautifully. I don’t know where that is anymore. I’d like another one.

  • @Lexarf0rk
    @Lexarf0rk 5 днів тому +3

    It is difficult to beat the beautiful woodcuts, profound commentary on each Feast day, and the inclusion of both Vespers and Compline in the St. Andrew's Missal. My specific copy was well used by a Nun and was even gifted to her by a Titular Bishop in the early 40's. Salve Maria.

  • @marcusm359
    @marcusm359 5 днів тому +4

    The Angelus is the best 1962 in my opinion and is overall a good devotional prayer book. It's a good one stop book. I find many of the other missals don't have as much material for devotional prayers before and after mass and I find I need to bring another book.
    I enjoy the St Andrew as my pre 55 reference, moreso than Fr Lassance

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 3 дні тому

      I agree, Marcus.
      I would have liked a little less page flipping but if that were so it'd be St. Andrew / Fr Lassance (current) sized.
      All in all, a good missal. I think Lefebvre was wise enough to stick with it and if it's good enough for Lefebvre, it's good enough for me!

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 2 дні тому

      @@spykezspykez7001 If you have a 1962 missal you can see that it does not contain the people's Confiteor. It also had the Canon, which means fixed, altered, which is the past was roundly rejected.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 2 дні тому

      I suppose we have to discern whom to follow.
      I will (I have) cast my lot with the Society.
      What is your story? Home alone? SSPV? Conciliar church? Sinodal church?

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 2 дні тому

      @@spykezspykez7001 Catholic.

  • @aloyalcatholic5785
    @aloyalcatholic5785 5 днів тому +1

    Great content. Thank you and God bless.

  • @christopherus33
    @christopherus33 5 днів тому +4

    I’ve been trying to find a St. Andrew’s for the pre-‘55 calendar and Holy Week (for when my parish occasionally gets permission), the explanations, AND the kyriale, which the St. Andrew has but the Fr. Lasance does not.
    Otherwise, for the ‘62, I love the Angelus Press.

    • @seppe1701
      @seppe1701 4 дні тому +1

      Try Daughters of Mary Press. They have a 1954 edition reprint. There is also a 1945 reprint available elsewhere. The 54 edition is slimmer - less pages, probably because most of the proper (such as the readings/Gospel) are not in Latin. It opens flat too. However, I'd be interested to know what else is different to the 1945 edition.

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

    • @seppe1701
      @seppe1701 3 дні тому

      @@littlerock5256 how was the Canon altered in the 62 missal?

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 3 дні тому

      What confiteor removed?
      I mean, there's the usual foot of the altar by two, then again before communion just after the Agnus Dei?
      Is there another confiteor?
      What alteration are you taking about in the Canon?
      Honest questions. '62 person here

    • @christopherus33
      @christopherus33 2 дні тому

      @ There used to be a second confiteor right before the people’s “Domine non sum dignus.” Some places have received permission to add it back in. My FSSP parish does it.

  • @HenryLeslieGraham
    @HenryLeslieGraham 4 дні тому +1

    i wish i could afford one of these missals. they are really expensive when new here. something like 50-60£ or whatever it is in $/€

  • @g.p.ryecroft
    @g.p.ryecroft 2 дні тому

    Very informative and interesting. I found at eBay for just a few bucks a pretty worn copy of a pocket "I Pray the Mass Sund ay Missal," arranged by Rev. Hugo Hoever. It appears to be a proto-St. Joseph Missal. There were a lot of them on eBay and most were under ten bucks. More for historical interest but also to secure in print the pre-55 Holy Week. I learned a lot watching this. Always wondered what the Maryknolls were about. Surprised to hear a conservative speak highly of Dorothy Day, darling of the progressives and liberation theology sects of our faith. Enjoy a merry and blessed Christmas!

  • @starlightatdusk4896
    @starlightatdusk4896 5 днів тому

    I have the Bonaventure Press reprint of the S Andrews Missal. It's very good. Would love to see a reprint that integrates the propers in the appendix into the main text, and replaces the modern notation with chant notation in the Kyriale.
    Also had the Angelus Press Missal, but lost it in a house fire. It was very good as well.

  • @Leocomander
    @Leocomander 5 днів тому +1

    I like the Angelus Press best. I have used mine for 5 years for Sunday and Daily mass at my FSSP parish. There are some drawbacks though if you get the imitation leather version after some time of use it will deteriorate and the cover will rub off on your clothing which is not good. Also the gilding will fall off immediately if there is any water whatsoever that comes into contact with it. So if it is raining out I would suggest not getting it wet.

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @jacobticer1643
    @jacobticer1643 5 днів тому

    Good work.

  • @FMDad-dm5qo
    @FMDad-dm5qo 5 днів тому +2

    Great video!
    Angelus ‘62 Missal is physically durable and solidly arranged; the F150 truck of traditional missals.
    It can be a little lacking in ‘creature comforts.’ Type is fairly small, and there’s some bleed through from the other side of the page. There are a number of internal cross-references, so occasionally a daily Mass will require you to flip to three different page numbers to find all the correct propers. But that’s fairly uncommon.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 5 днів тому +1

      The print is also much more readable than the Fr. Lassance one, in my opinion but there can be more page turning.

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @daniellelajoie1285
    @daniellelajoie1285 5 днів тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @seppe1701
    @seppe1701 4 дні тому

    19:46 what's the Confraternity all about? How did that translation come about and why?

  • @debrasaints3809
    @debrasaints3809 5 днів тому +1

    I have my original 1953 St. Joseph Daily Missal and, YES, it has the English translation. People always knew how to follow the Mass! Laudater Iesus Christus!
    Edit here, my Missal has woodcut images!

    • @CFN_Official
      @CFN_Official  5 днів тому

      Yes, many of those woodcuts remind me of some of the art used in the Baltimore catechism. There are some nice older St. Joseph Missals if you can find a suitable copy, I'm glad you kept yours!
      Thanks for watching.
      -Murray

  • @speedygonzales9993
    @speedygonzales9993 5 днів тому

    Tks!, Murray, I ordered the Saint Andrew's Missal some 5 months ago from the Sophia Institute Press. Yes, it is on backorder. Wish St. Bonaventure Press would also include the Latin texts for the Secret, Epistle reading, & Gospel reading in all the Propers. That would make this missal THICKER (& SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE), but it would also make this missal more COMPLETE. 🙂

  • @seppe1701
    @seppe1701 4 дні тому

    10:23 is that a separate missal for Holy Week? Is it the pre55 version or both pre55 and post 55?

  • @augustinep6193
    @augustinep6193 5 днів тому +1

    Good. Thanks.

  • @bettywagner4208
    @bettywagner4208 4 дні тому

    Wish I had seen this sooner. I opted for the St Paul Daily but afterwards ordered The Roman Daily Missal (my favorite). Why did you not include these two?

  • @Against-Modern-Errors
    @Against-Modern-Errors 5 днів тому +1

    Good luck trying to find a new st Andrews missal now

  • @civitatedei-catolicismo
    @civitatedei-catolicismo День тому

    very informative impressive

  • @vinceeuloayengmi5092
    @vinceeuloayengmi5092 2 дні тому

    The St. Pius X Daily Missal School Edition is very good.

  • @thelegionofst.michaelthear2490

    The pre 55 Missal will be the only one used during the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart!

  • @seppe1701
    @seppe1701 4 дні тому

    Which missals contain both the pre55 Holy Week and the post55 Holy Week? And do they contain all pre55 feasts plus the post55 ones that Pope Pius xii introduced? Is there a separate missal specifically for Holy Week? Pre55 or post55 or both?

    • @CFN_Official
      @CFN_Official  4 дні тому +1

      The best one for all of the needs you described here is the St. Edmund Campion Missal (3rd edition) that we cover at 10:38. If you are attending mass primarily on Sundays and major feasts, want both Holy Weeks and a bunch of beautiful material, it's the best one.
      Thanks for watching and commenting!
      -Murray

  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

    Murray Murray Murray Murray Murray

  • @marcusm359
    @marcusm359 5 днів тому

    In France, they publish a 1962 edited version of the St Andrew's missal which is actually quite nice. I enjoy having the feasts in their proper place (as least based on most places where one may assist at mass as there are few places which are entirely pre55 outside of sede circles) while still having the commentary of Dom Lefebvre

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @johnchristiancanda3320
    @johnchristiancanda3320 День тому

    Pre-1955 Missals are the best in my humble opinion.

  • @LorenSims-dt8xl
    @LorenSims-dt8xl 3 дні тому

    THE ROMAN MISSAL (1962) BARONIUS PRESS ❤ BEAUTIFUL BOOK!!👑 JESUS CHRIST SAVES!!

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

    Do Top 6 Antipopes since Vatican II next

  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

    You cooked with this video idea. Now do a Br. Peter Dimond vs Taylor Marshall rap battle video

  • @liquidnitrogen58
    @liquidnitrogen58 5 днів тому

    The prayers at the back of Fr. Lasance missal are remarkable. Read St. Ambrose daily prayers for Monday (page 1806). Read the description of St. Aloysius Gonzaga (page 1702). Read the prayer for the 10th and 11 stations of the cross (page 1832).

    • @CFN_Official
      @CFN_Official  5 днів тому

      The additional prayers and the occasional Benzinger Brothers illustrations are certainly great additions! I don't think they make up for the size, and lack of Vespers. Thanks for watching
      -Murray

    • @liquidnitrogen58
      @liquidnitrogen58 5 днів тому

      @ my goodness. The Fr. Lasance missal is a masterpiece. Have you noticed that novus ordo mass has more Bible than the traditional Latin mass ?!

    • @seppe1701
      @seppe1701 4 дні тому

      ​@@CFN_Officialbut Wouldn't a separate Vespers book be recommended for some of us that don't have that offered by our parishes?

  • @miller4190
    @miller4190 5 днів тому +1

    Fr F X Lasance’s is by far the best, in my opinion. ora pro nobis Father

    • @seppe1701
      @seppe1701 4 дні тому

      Why? Please describe specifically how it is more beneficial than St. Andrew and the sspx 62 missal.

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      @@seppe1701 The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

    Top 5 Catholic Christmas movies next

  • @charcushman9507
    @charcushman9507 5 днів тому +1

    Fr. Lasance missal is the best.

    • @seppe1701
      @seppe1701 4 дні тому

      Why? And how is it better than the St. Andrew Missal?

  • @Romulus-q4v
    @Romulus-q4v 5 днів тому

    1962 rubrics of he mass do not have the Confiteor before communion, yet Society priests say it ignoring the rubrics, because?

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      Lefebvre did what he wanted and cobbled things together. Some call it the Mass of Econe.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 2 дні тому

      I honestly never noticed this till today.

  • @ChainedFranciscan
    @ChainedFranciscan 5 днів тому +2

    Hands down, St. Andrew Missal, 1940 something…

  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

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  • @crayolcoldify
    @crayolcoldify 4 дні тому

    You picked the St. Andrew’s pre-55 missal over Lefebvre’s 62 missal? You shcismatic!!!!

    • @littlerock5256
      @littlerock5256 3 дні тому

      The 1962 was a transitional Missal, used for 2.5 years, and had the Canon altered and the people's Confiteor removed.

  • @OLCarmel
    @OLCarmel 5 днів тому

    I didn't know all this ♥️🌹🪻 Thanknyou