One more thing I'd like to add, being the guy who implements teamwork platforms for ArchiCAD/BIMCloud, I think this is a very important topic, as in many cases companies will need a solid collaboration solution, that might not be relevant for a solo user, but for the performance of the whole company I think ArchiCAD's BimServer/BIMCloud solutions are much more mature. Also the matter of what hardware you need to build the same thing in ArchiCAD Vs Revit, IMHO ArchiCAD uses much less resources to do the same task.
I've been working my whole life with Revit in my firm, yet I prefer Archicad whenever I do my own projects solely for the fact that I don't need any other program other than maybe Photoshop to pair with it. I can do conceptual massing with ease (no sketchup needed), I can make detail drawings with ease (no autocad needed) and I can arrange my presentation boards right there within the program.
If you truly have used it @your whole life@ and still don't know how to do detail drawings in Revit and opt to do them in AutoCAD instead- well you will most likly be fired from your firm very soon. Google Revit draughting view or dont BS
@@archist9789 nay a is right tho. You can do detailing in revit without autocad. You can even do conceptual massing in revit. Heck, you can also do rendering presentations in revit, tho i prefer using ps for that
If you know what you're doing in Revit there isn't much you can't do. But I completely understand what you're saying. I think a lot of practices dislike Revit because of its complexity. I've used Revit for 6 years now but considering switching over to ArchiCAD.
The main difference is the software approach. Archicad is focused on architectural design under a collaborative environment, where it coexists in a work ecosystem that promotes the use of the best BIM software and Revit is focused on engineering under an Autodesk environment. Free world vs Monopoly.
Naida Vucic "a common user" could tell you the same. Trust me, who knows how Revit works and knows Archicad, loves Archicad. At least here in Brasil everyone I talked who tried to implement Revit and Archicad prefers Archicad...
Site modeling, Site View, Ceiling Command, In-place Updateable Groups, Temporary levels, temporary dimensions are great in Revit. ArchiCAD is faster than revit. navigating is better in ArchiCAD. It is more user friendly.
Currently working on a large project with Revit. We have 14 people working on the same model. It is a complete disaster. Constant syncing problems. Don’t buy Revit if a project requires more than 8 people.
now we working with 10 people in one project in one file/ The project consists of 5 sections of different heights and parking from 4 to 26 floors. The project in the archicade works fairly quickly.
I have +30 people working in one Revit model, (with lots of links), on different locations without issues. Performance is much more than just the software, its about hardware specs, model managing, workflows etc..
And how did you get to the conclusion that the disaster is caused by the software (Revit)? In my case, at the office we have 8-12 people on the same Archicad Server. If we work more than 4 people on one project, there are serious delays because the server is just too old. I mean in our case we are not blaming Archicad for our hardware issues (and lazy managers who just won't spend any money on a new server). I think you should call a server engineer and a Revit tehnincian in order to solve your problems which I think are more of hardware and workflow than software.
Coming from commercial construction, there are a few big differences that always made my decision easier. #1-Interoperability, and being able to live link in PDFs (contract docs) #2-3D Working Environment, and gaining perspective on your modeling #3-Reporting Engine, and being able to shape and modify data with ease. Those who appreciate this functionality know my obvious preference. But both tools are powerful and continue to get better, one just at a faster pace :)
ArchiCAD is best in class for what I do... I view it more as the ideal content management tool, something that can bring all formats together for enhanced review, and creating optimal project context. Revit may be more widely used in commercial construction, but I'm ok with that as I maintain my competitive advantage again and again :)
@@CONTRABIM Love your videos, Indeed Archicad is much better, has everytihng in one place. While using Revit it was really frustrating with all these families.
Archicad has most of the things you are looking for as an architect, if you really know how to use it (the complex shape design and quality rendering), But I would really love to try Revit
I use both software, but the winner is ArchiCAD. The UI is much better and more sofisticated, and easier to creates drawings and layouts with much more flexibility. All together more suitable for design and plan creation. Revit has only one advantage: MEP.
i used first archicad in university, like 4 years and switched to revit because of my job. (1,5 years) . main difference imo. archicad can import almost every file format, revit cant (pdf verctorisation not possible etc) archicad can export almost every file format, revit cant rendering is WAY BETTER with the cinerender than revit. having 2d and 3d drafting possibilities in archicad ist worrh GOLD and much better than in revit (worksheets / blueprints( i know revit has it too, but works smoother) revit is very good but i just miss some features of archicad in it. revit is lacking on some crucial points to be better than Archicad. if you have archicad you dont need illustrator, Photoshop, or indesign. wich is a huuuuuge benifit.
True. Here is the workarounds: 1. You don't give a damn of the work of the creators and use an adblocker. What matters is your confort alone. 2. You care and respect the creators work. You just browse through the video to reach the identifiable advert points. Go through them so they disappear. The creator and YT got their cash. You can rewind from where you stopped and go on uninterrupted. Now I agree that is you get an ad every minute it is annoying but here, though there were many, it was still acceptable.
11:41 What he's talking about?? I can CUSTOMIZE EVERYTHING in ARCHICAD. Menus, panels, tools, where things are placed, everything... Just to know how to do it. ;)
Maybe it's less and less relevant in a BIM world, but at our office the deliverables are still traditional technical drawings, and i've found the management of sheets and model views ridiculously overcomplicated and inefficient in Revit. You can't place a view on several sheets, you can't align the views without the help of a grid (still no Osnaps), can't link data from external files, can't really format your content to any acceptable degree. This aspect was not even mentioned in the video, but if your workflow includes traditional printed plans, it is a real everyday hassle in Revit. If you want to make pretty layouts for a presentation for your clients or even for an architectural competition, you can absolutely do that in ArchiCAD and you absolutely can't do that in Revit. Correct me if I'm wrong, these are my experiences with Revit2016.
ambrus kiss Thats good to know. Im an expert Revit user, and I always thought that this was a problem for Revit, you cant really do much with the layouts of sheets, or even with schedules, not many customizing options. Im currently learning Archicad, so you could say its a bit more friendly in that area? Thanks.
I think paper space in AC is much like a model space with 2D elements (and that's just not true for Revit). You can for example explode any 2D or 3D view into actual paper space elements like lines and hatches, and make really nice custom graphics out of your 3D model. Now that's what I call customizable in an architectural context. All you can do in Revit is changing the display properties of your actual 3D elements (which is also quite powerful in itself). In this aspect AC is a very good visualisation tool for architects, where Revit is rather a standardised tool for engineers without high visual expectations.
I tried both. Archicad becomes unbearably slow when working on a bigger project or when dealing with a complex shape. Try modeling the same complex shape in both softwares and the difference becomes really clear. It is awfull when working with meshes, modifying them is a nightmare or when modeling custom shapes, etc.... For me the Archicad is a looser.
I dropped archicad after Learning Revit in a proper way. Nowadays architects can’t work separately alone and the interoperability between all professional Entities is extremely important. Besides Archicad has some limits, by not having the full engine capacity to integrate a Massing modelling ( Morph Tools ) within the BIM culture. The model can look nice but the Plans are never reflecting the model and never updated. And for me this is a limit. While a massing in Revit can be easily be updated in the plans and sections. Anyway this a personal experience and i hope i am wrong. Thanks
Thank you for your video. I work with Revit for more than 12 years. I'ld like to try Archicad but your video is not enough accurate to me because you stay in the general not explaining points as structural connection, topography, rebar, ... (Revit's lacks) I'll try soon Revit 2020, and see if there are betterments... My Revit library has more than 15.000 objets and a lot of them were made by myself. I'm working in French Polynesia with lot of adaptations to tropical conditions and for specific projects i had to manage (factories, auditorium, care center, ...) Thank you again. You make a very very good work.
I am learning Revit and find it so slow and tedious. Archicad seems to have all the libraries in visual format, and looks like you can update sizes, configurations all in one go, rather than in Revit where you have to collect or build a whole bunch of different components to choose from. And detailing! Very stuck with creating thin roof eaves in Revit...Grrrrr!
You cant learn things fast unless you put heart to it. I used revit for many years and managed to do hundred thousand dollars of project. It just works and faster than Autocad. The only thing revit weak is interior designing which takes long time and i rather use alternate like Lumion colab with revit. So far i have no problem with that combo
My first software in Architecture was SketchUp. I was very happy with it, but I wasn't able to do "real projects" with SketchUp. Because of this, I migrated to Archicad+Rhino+Grasshopper. that was an amazing combination. after 3 years, I joined a great team as an interior designer/modeler (I work with 3Ds Max as well). The main software of the team was Revit. I tried Revit for first time there and I surprised! after that, I learned Revit and other Autodesk Architectural and Civil softwares such as Civil3d and Advance Steel (I knew Autocad) as well as Infraworks. Now I work on large scale projects. but I always say small projects are more interesting. You can use every software you want, Revit, Archicad, SketchUp, Rhino, 3Ds Max, Vectorworks, Cheif Architect, FormZ and so on. But if you want to work on "real projects" go for Revit or Archicad. In large scale projects, Revit (Autodesk platform) is way to go. Good luck.
For you mr. balkan .check the KCC for Archicad 22 where you can see the new facade tool in archicad also its connection to grasshopper and the imagination limited conceptual design 4. .check the data management part in the Kcc. .MEP modeler for mechanical engineering is already implemented in archicad since archicad 20. .Rhino export / import without damaging the geometry and joining it into one object as revit does. .conceptual massing is a plus for revit but rhino/archicad acts better as in both cases ur working in separate files.
I liked the video. I actually waited for a long time for a video that tells me what am I missing not using Revit. Personally, I am an ArchiCAD user and fan but I cannot hide my admiration for your presentation and Revit as well!
i used archicad after being a revit user for 5 years , it was very enjoyable to how easy archicad can be specifically to how fast its the archicad blocks can be manipulated from inside the project no hassle needed , for small uncomplex projects archicad is a clear winner , but after a while i started meeting its limitation and the work around i had to do to get over some of the things revit does faster and easier so i immediately went back to revit , in my opinion the parameters and options revit gives you to control your project are uncompelled by any other architecture program . overall revit is just a better BIM program .
Hi! Now that you have used both, could you give an example of the limits you found in archicad? And also in which situations Revit is faster with the parameters you mention.
Pozdrav. Da li je moguce u revitu uporediti 2 ifc fajla iz archicada, kako bi se uocile izmene koje su nastale od arhitekte? Archicad ima Archicad Connection plugin for Autodesk Revit koji omogucuje bolju saradnju ova 2 softvera i u archicadu se mogu uporediti 2 ifc modela, ne znam vazi li to i za revit.
Lets talk about IFC: there's only one model checker commonly used around the world: Solibri. Now lets talk about IFC quality when exported from Archicad and Revit and read into Solibri: Archicad does great, Revit bug sometimes. Why? Revit/Adsk is more worried to develop its process inside its "bubble", while ArchiCAD is worried about OPEN BIM, that means real BIM cause you'll never do a big bim inside a bubble unless this bubble have all kind of softwares, a pretty hard thing...
Yeah... I'm in the US, and every large contractor uses Navis not Solibri. The only models they usually get in IFC form are out of Tekla and from steel subs. Structural guys use Revit. And coordinating back and forth with consultants using IFC isnt great. Open BIM is like Android and Apple phones working in harmony. Great in theory. I wish it worked better, but I think it's a long long way off.
The huge potential of the Archicad is the GDL, and in Revit it's just a family very much in a primitive script language. I am a person who works professionally (including programming) and in Allplan and Revit, but Allplan is very truncated by GDL from Archicad, but he does not leave any chances Revit put anything on the scales.
I use Revit since Version 2.1 , I think in 2002 approx. I tried Archicad in those days as well, I choose Revit since then because is more intuitive. I recently was looking Tutorials of Archicad to compare. I have seen how is done structural connections and unique shapes of Beams. But seem to be done one by one in the Project rather than an element type (Family). My question is, if an structural connection is designed in the project as a unique thing. Is there a way in archicad to convert other beams and other columns the same type? Is possible to apply the same detail globally? I don't know if I explained my self. The tutorial I have seen brags how easy was to customize the beam and column to detail a connection but I did not see they can convert it in to a global solution or multiple instances. I wonder if is even possible. So far I like Revit much better. Less steps to do things.
My dear u forgot the great link between Tekla structure and Archicad , which doesnt work well if u export from revit to Tekla , and regarding the render i think every one now is using the best render solution (Lumion ) . For the price in revit u have to renew every year in case of Archicad u will pay one time for ever . and regarding the B.I.M , if archicad is not the best one then what is it for , Graphisoft is the first company who invinted B.l.M and finally i am not marketing for Archicad they r not paying me any .. thx .
It's simple really (and that's why this si basically clickbait video). Revit is Autodesk copy of Archicad, plain and simple, since they become aware they will loose market with their outdated architectural version of Autocad against Archicad, Allplan etc, which are true "bim" tools from teh start. Autodesk is "murica" firm, that's why it got so much "support", where autocad users automatically switch (or been forced) to Revit, which becomes holly grail of bim, at least by the "media" (again, totaly wrong). And your comparing these two softwares are not 100% correct, it really shows you're not familiar with archicad (and that's why all this kinds of videos are not true representation of reality). But i really do like your style of design and use of the (revit) software, looking for something similiar in archicad world (there are some great guys on tube, but hard to find somebody little bit modern orienteted).
@@patriklundqvist6237 exactly this is the reason some basic functions are lacking: PDF import (only from R2020), proper ifc linking, and schedule export to excel
I know that ARCHICAD is many time better of Revit...but why (here in Italy) every studios requests Revit and no-one Archicad? Second consideration, Archicad is better as single program for a project. But I think that if you add Revit + Inventor + Vault you can manage every single question of a project from concept to executive.
Huge thing about student license is that archicad projects that get made with student license cannot be opened with a full license, only a student one. So I have friends that made their final project using a student license and later on payed for the program and wanted to use their project on their portfolio and was a pain to access it...
Thank you very much, your review is so important to me cause I'm a designer.now I'm happy that I`m using Archicad as I'm not into construction details, so I will never face a problem with my design, Thank you again.
Hello, mr Balkan. I prefer Revit. Because I'm scan-to-bim specialist. So I work with point clouds, and Revit is wayyy more optimised to work with point cloud than ArchiCAD. Yes, it's difficult to learn Revit, especially at the beginning, but after you understand the way it works, definetely it's a good tool to model projects from point clouds.
What can I say for sure is that "sketching" and conceptual "sculpting" is way too easy with ArchiCAD more intuitive and goes with two clicks. In revit you have to do things line by line and going in some "mode" of sketching then exit it - too many klicks for super simple tasks. Another thing that I see as a very big minus in revit is that you work in 3d view with axonometry. In other words, you can't go inside your building and see what is like to live in there in a way. But both software has their own good sides and this is the reason why I started to learn revit.
I am Revit user just like you, but i think ArchiCAD better than Revit as you said in the conceptual phase, but in my country Revit more common than ArchiCAD, so i can not go with ArchiCAD
It's matter of knowledge when people understand the purpose of the IFC , then they can solve any issue , it's like 3dsmax vs sketchup , sketchup is much easier then 3ds max and designed to suite the designers , again u will c some one using 3dsmax and says it's better .
in my country, archicad is more common than revit but then i got project from different country which they used revit as their main software and i had to learn revit in short time to suit into the team. since that time i used both software and i realize i shoul learn a lot software not only being fanboy of a software since each software has their advantages and disadvantages. Capable using so many software such Archicad, Revit, 3ds Vray/corona/etc, lumion, unreal enginge, etc giving me huge advantages and make me get projects easily.. that was my experience. but maybe others have another perspective about this
I use them both, but I'm master in ArchiCAD, and I make outstanding projects with it. Well as an architect, the best BIM software is ArchiCAD, it's very intuitive and amazing with decorated projects, also clients love it a lot using BIMx and VR. And in visual programming, ArchiCAD uses grasshopper with Rhino, and it's the best for parametric design with no doubt. Also with interoperability I personally use ETABS with just a click from ArchiCAD, I transform my project to it. And hey bro, you are not the good one to make this comparison, because you aren't good in ArchiCAD, you need to learn them both so you can compare, not just been a fanboy.
Hmm... I use Revit but this makes me want to try Archicad. I hate conceptual designing in Revit. I actually start concept in SketchUp which is super easy and fast and when I'm ready I got to Revit. Doing something conceptually in Revit is a nightmare.
Is true, In the old days, I think until version "Revit 8" (not Revit 2008) I mean Revit 8, It use to be a much better set of tools for conceptual design. Much better and simpler and much more stable in my opinion. Everything was done with 3D solids and bulling operations similar to the old commands from Autocad 3D solids . After they replaced the commands with the new style, I never liked anymore. I rather do it in sketch up
You discuss a "Clash of the Titans" but forget to mention Vectorworks! All of the features of both in one program. No need for external plug ins or switching back and forth between external programs. All in one program with ability to do all of the functionality including cross platform (both MAC & PC), ability to work in 2D & 3D seamlessly, Fully customizable tools, creative parametric modeling for ultimate freedom to design, site modeling for detailed use of site data including GIS & point cloud data, true BIM workflow with OpenBIM standards, graphical scripting for algorithmic means to orchestrate and dictate design forms and customizations without programming experience, exceptional presentation graphics with customized styles so you can produce just the right look you need - AND BEST OF ALL - no subscription! You OWN IT FOREVER!!
I have used Archicad and Revit, I am sorry to tell you that the advantages offered by archicad are enormous, it will not be long for Revit to stay on the road ... nowadays it has become a BIM reference but those who dominate look for something better, will end up using and recognizing that Archicad is still far superior
I think archicad has a better ui and fluidity of work is good. although revit is industry standard, archicad is better in terms of drafting or modeling in 3d. It just feels cleaner neater and more real. Archicad is really simple and very easy to learn.
I am a mechanical engineer and work with Fusion360. How big is the difference to jump to REVIT? My invention product is special own design - hollow steel beam /post element. I would like to use my STEP for REVIT and create building structure. I also look for some professionals as a freelancer
1985 autocad..dumped it in one day! 1994 archicad 4.5, in just 10 days from open box, self taught and presented to client. 2000 landed in firm and learnt vectorworks. 2004 learnt revit and dumped it within a week. In my last 20+ years, I have used archicad 4.5, 7, 17 and 20…no software is as intelligent as Archicad. it is designed for designer who understands how design a building; and produce technical documents that are accurate, and buildable; friendly-user without any bells and whistlers that don't work; and best of all, seamless coordination with other software users…in the smallest file size.
I'm switching from ArchiCAD to Revit (after 3 years AC) and you're helping me with that at the moment. Thank you for that 😅! Btw how did you learn Dynamo?
im a revit fanboy as well , i have worked on revit from university days up until now and i wont be leaving it anytime soon , but even i cant argue that archi cad destroys revit in pretty much everything , if youre an architect who wants to design then you should most definitely go to archicad , revit is more oriented towards drafting really
I use revit, it's not so friendly as archicad, but I don't have experience on rendering with Revit yet, so I use 3d max to render as to show to clients. But I am learning more on you tube . I think Autodesk have to develope more Revit, so can be more friendly to work .
Good day friend From where should i start a stage with levels, like singers or show stages ? shall i open an architecture file and do it on levels ? can you help ........ thanks in advance
Thank you for video. I chose also Revit for the reson of student licence. In our compani we buy the AEC collection and its very cook package. Nice work.
I have used nearly every CAD software from Datacad to mircostation... to Archicad and now Revit..its it’s revit all the way ... far far more superior software...I agree with u Balkan architect.
Dude, I was excited to see a 2018 Revit VS ArchiCAD review video but you disappointed a lot of viewers I see by the comments. I can not believe this video of your's are 2018. You continually make gross incorrect statements. From start to finish it is clear that you just don't know what you are talking about. If you don't know, you should not even make a comparison video like this one. - Error In your video at 3:10 ARCHICAD was able since ARCHICAD 11 in 2007 already to work with Multistory Hotlinked Modules. (you probably were still in school then) I stopped listening at 7:05, it makes no sense to keep listening because you are not answering the question in the topic of your video. I see in the comments that I am not the only person that has this response. You should not waste your time on things you know nothing about. If you want to do head-to-head reviews you should do some homework first. There is a wide community that will happily show and teach you what you don't know. This could help you to get started: helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25683/ helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25852/ Then come back and re-do this video, if you are interested to be fair and actually do a review and not a Revit sales video. Or simply change the video topic.
Although the content of this video is unrelated, I have no problem answering your question @@patriklundqvist6237 Balkan Architect 's video topic aims to do 2 things: 1. compare Revit & ArchiCAD and 2. answer the question "Which is Better?" My short answer is: 1. Revit & ArchiCAD are similar but also very different software (just refer to the comments in this thread). But their differences actually make it impossible to compare "apples-to-apples" (if we are honest with ourselves). They are not made to be or do the same. 2. Better at what? Both Revit & ArchiCAD are better at some things and not so good at other things. They were made to be different for reasons guided by their makers. Software is a "take-it-or-leave-it" kind of deal. Unless you want to hack into it (which would be illegal) or develop your own legal AIP. [again: choices]... Life, work, play, is about choices: Even in choosing software, we have to honestly consider both the objective (facts only) perspective and the subjective (personal opinion / emotional) perspective. Software is just tools, so is our knowledge of and practical skills in a field, our time and other resources available to us. Choosing software is only the beginning. So I say each of us have to choose what works best for what we have to do today / tomorrow. There is no correct or wrong answers here. Whatever you choose for whatever reason or purpose, that would be the correct choice, FOR YOU (or your company or project). If for some reason you made an error in judgement at that time or new software versions brought changes to how you must work, you could simply adjust along the way. Again you would have a choice in this instance and you will learn valuable lessons along the way. You will improve by experience and your choices will deliver better, more efficient results for your desired outcome. In my view there is a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT question/s we should be asking ourselves: - what is the best I can do / offer with the software / tools I currently have, and - what or how should I, my tools or offering change to become better and offer more. To me, this will contribute more to the value I create in a field and this (among other aspects) means that I will continually aim and grow to become a master of any tool my job / project requires for it's best outcome.
Thanx for taking the time to answer! I agree with most of your thoughts, and as BIM consultant i am not pro or against either one. Ive been working professionally with both, think they do a great job with the right userknowledge and I have seen quite complex buildings like hospitals made in both systems! I am an Autodesk reseller since early 90s, but I have always been interested in comparing different workprocesses and tools, mainly because I might learn something new from the "other" side. I agree the question "which is better" is not really the question here, I would rather call it "the best choice at the moment as an architect, with my earlier experience and future coming demands".However, a little more info (not just hearsay) is maybe of good use for lets say clients (in this case Architects) moving to BIM from a 2D environment. (typically AutoCAD/LT). If I am to recommend Revit or ArchiCAD to a potential customer I would like it to be based on more than just rumours from for example userforums with lots of people not really initiated. Ofcourse the customers can download a trial, but that might not be enough to do a proper evaluation according to ones needs. So therefore I welcome inputs like this from BA in trying to give a perspective, and then its up to me/the future user to find the nuggets among the bullshit in the commenting area.
@@patriklundqvist6237 yes we are in many ways in the same position. Both BIM Consultants, both with practical project expertise & insight on Revit and ARCHICAD (+other BIM/CAD tools). You are also correct, it could be a challenge for most users to make sense of the wide variety of info to influence their own decisions about moving their businesses forward. And that is just the reason for my disappointment with Balkan Architect 's video. This was a missed opportunity to deliver real value. It ends up actually not answering the real question. It just raises even more questions to the viewer. In the end it always comes back to each individual / company taking the bold step and make a decision on how, when and where to start and JUST GO FOR IT. Make your best possible choice and live with the consequence. It will be ok. Especially if you have or ask for help, you do not need to do this all by yourself. There are people you can trust to give you honest answers that is in your best interest and not in their's. It is important to remember that this is a journey for all of us and not a destination. One specific tool will never solve all our future problems or satisfy our or our client's needs. The only thing that is certain is that things will keep changing and we will have to adapt to all the changes and the challenges we face in work and life. For people that are serious about finding answers about moving from 2D to BIM and to choose between Revit or ARCHICAD, at least there are enough comments from active users of both Revit and ARCHICAD in this thread to give them a good overview of what working in these are like in an active workflow. That is if they are willing to spend the time reading and sifting through it all. Most people do not have the time or patience to actually do that. To make the decision about "Revit or ARCHICAD?" we all have 2 routes we could take if we want to succeed: 1. low level research: - go by our gut feel, - just run a trail or - ask a buddy 2. consider all the factors that could affect our business: - cost (long & short term) - functionality - hardware requirements (impacts on startup and future cost) - usability & performance - initial training and continued learning - setup, templates and office standards - collaboration & co-ordination of project drawings & data - access to effective local and high level tech support (in-house, consultancy & vendor) - possible client / project specific requirements - future business growth objectives - needed changes to the business / workflows and resources to address the new technologies (the business and work of being an AEC Professional has changed a lot in the past 10-15 years!) The faster you can start the journey, the faster you can learn from the process and adjust to reach your objective for success. PS: I must say, looking at the volume and type of response, Balkan Architect does at least succeed in drawing attention to his content.
One thing I'm going to tell you, mate. If anything is ArchiCAD is customisation made real. You can change any icon of any palette of any tool of any dialog box of any shortcut. There is anything in ArchiCAD UI that can't be customised. Nothing there for Revit to compare. I simple stopped the video in that point.
His not talking baout dyam icons and Ui dumbo, we are talking about drawings, types, paramatric instances and objects that formulate drawings styles in a integlligent software. Archicad is quite far from these types of customization
You missed ArchiCADs biggest draw, which is the ability to work in perspective. It also looks a lot better while modeling (not render). The visualization is the reason I can't use Revit, it's not conductive for creativity imo.
Давно пытаюсь решить, что удобнее из этих программ. Ранее работал в Архикаде. Сейчас изучаю Ревит. На мой взгляд в Архикаде гораздо удобнее работать в 3Д окне, это для архитектора на стадии концептуального проектирования очень важно!
Hi balkan,i agree with u too But i would classify them as such: Archi cad best for bespoke small to medium practices (awesome for private residential to small public project studios). Revit king for medium to big corporation practices with mep electrical ,structural ,management visualization. and more needed coordinated work Thts what they feal like coz i ve used them both for almost 5 years. As Balkan said i left Archi cad in vertion 16 when morph tool came out coz revit conceptual mass curtain panel addaptive components ...environment was way to liberating for anything tht i whanted to do. Archi cad shuld decide their marketing target i still fill they whant to overcome autodesk but thts a lost battle they shuld focus on small private practices.
Fares Jawad yes but those companies have somthing called personalized add-ons based on their specific project and Graphysoft has special arrangements... Plus they use more rihino and grasshopper then define it on archicad they dont design on archicads platform IN LIFE U COULD ALWAYS ARGUE SAYING THERE IS SOMEONE BUT THT DON'T MAKE IT A NORM..... "STATISTICS",NUMBERS,PATTERNS, GIVE U REALISTIC VIEW NOT EXCEPTION.
You make me want to become an architect. I always wanted to as a kid because I was into drawing and enjoyed drawing homes and designs but I never ended up taking it anywhere. Now it’s too late to go back to school and spend the amount of time it requires to graduate with papers. Do you know if there are workers in that industry that are self taught ? Is it possible ?
it's possible if you don't mind making little money :) it seems to be a profession that is slowly shrinking in demand due to automation and oversupply of eager students who have a passion for architecture despite the shrinking demand.
I've been working with Autocad for 32 years. Revit for the last 4 or 5 years and I'm trying to pick up MicroStation and AECOism now too. Here in the UK Network Rail, one of my employers main clients need to have drawings supplied in dng format. I'd rather model structures in Revit but I guess those needed for our rail projects will need to be done in AECOism. I wonder if doing them in Revit and exporting them as dgn files provided all the elements are supported.
Archicad is the way to go especially for an architectural firm who does small scale projects like residential projects. Archicad is more flexible and with its direct export to sketchup, it makes it easier to collaborate with other software such as lumion whereas revit needs a whole plugin installed just to export to sketchup or lumion. One thing that I wish Archicad did have is the temporary floating dimensions when you select an element and also the family creation side of revit.
In you're video you compare a lot of things but glance over one if the most important things. In order to work in a good BIM workflow on a project the proper and easy way of generating correct IFC files is vital. As you say both can work with IFC but it takes so much more effort to create it from revit. Archicad is almost works natively with IFC parameters, which results in a smooth import and export. In many countries it is mandatory to deliver proper IFC files, thats why this is so important. In that department archicad is superior. All the other features you mention depend on the philosphy and the office and how designers and engineers prefer to work, both are great for each task. I think good BIM shouldn't depend on the software of one company, thats why Open BIM is so important. Lets keep developers revit, archicad, allplan, vectorworks and so many more focussed on an open workflow as users. Interact with them, let them know what is important to us users.
People or designer look allways about easy , not complexe and simple tools in order to present their work so in the end the important product is your design your idea ... i worked with both and for me archicade is the best programme for architects and specially buildings designs
They should pay you! Your videos are awesome! Any question I have I UA-cam search if you have a video for it FIRST and there hasn't been many times that you don't. Thank you!
ArchiCAD is way ahead than Revit.. As an architect i am very much satisfied with ArchiCAD.. Working in ArchiCAD makes me feel like as I am "Designer" and on other hand Revit makes you feel as if you are a "Draftsmen"..
I have used archicad for almost 6 years but recently started using revit because of ease for engineering detailing. Hardest part is getting around interface. Once you get comfortable with that , it isn't difficult. Took me a month to really get into it.
I use revit and none of the architects I know use archicad. But I’m thinking about learning archicad because I want to buy a Mac. But I still don’t know if its worth to migrate that much.
One more thing I'd like to add, being the guy who implements teamwork platforms for ArchiCAD/BIMCloud, I think this is a very important topic, as in many cases companies will need a solid collaboration solution, that might not be relevant for a solo user, but for the performance of the whole company I think ArchiCAD's BimServer/BIMCloud solutions are much more mature.
Also the matter of what hardware you need to build the same thing in ArchiCAD Vs Revit, IMHO ArchiCAD uses much less resources to do the same task.
I've been working my whole life with Revit in my firm, yet I prefer Archicad whenever I do my own projects solely for the fact that I don't need any other program other than maybe Photoshop to pair with it. I can do conceptual massing with ease (no sketchup needed), I can make detail drawings with ease (no autocad needed) and I can arrange my presentation boards right there within the program.
I do the same thing: at work, we have to use Revit (and AutoCAD), but for personal projects, I use ArchiCAD for everything...
How could it be? Revit is new product, how you can use it all life? in 1998 it was autocad R14 and no revit
If you truly have used it @your whole life@ and still don't know how to do detail drawings in Revit and opt to do them in AutoCAD instead- well you will most likly be fired from your firm very soon. Google Revit draughting view or dont BS
@MgaBorisV and Nay The replies of you guys sound very childish.
@@archist9789 nay a is right tho. You can do detailing in revit without autocad. You can even do conceptual massing in revit. Heck, you can also do rendering presentations in revit, tho i prefer using ps for that
Haven't seen anybody said that Revit doesn't run on Macs.
exactly...
I use Archicad after having used Revit for 1 year: no comparison if you’re an architect) archicad is flexible and friendly
Me too
Made my chocie. Going to download Archicad
If you know what you're doing in Revit there isn't much you can't do. But I completely understand what you're saying. I think a lot of practices dislike Revit because of its complexity. I've used Revit for 6 years now but considering switching over to ArchiCAD.
Thank you . Was just thinking what to start with after using sketch up for years. Going for archicad now.
The main difference is the software approach. Archicad is focused on architectural design under a collaborative environment, where it coexists in a work ecosystem that promotes the use of the best BIM software and Revit is focused on engineering under an Autodesk environment. Free world vs Monopoly.
Couldn't said it better
Naida Vucic "a common user" could tell you the same. Trust me, who knows how Revit works and knows Archicad, loves Archicad. At least here in Brasil everyone I talked who tried to implement Revit and Archicad prefers Archicad...
Exactly, also the winners with revit are the contractors who make money
Android vs Apple :P
the big fat truth
rabbit or archicat?
Site modeling, Site View, Ceiling Command, In-place Updateable Groups, Temporary levels, temporary dimensions are great in Revit. ArchiCAD is faster than revit. navigating is better in ArchiCAD. It is more user friendly.
Good job, man. Thanks for this video. I tryed both... And I prefer the Archicad!
yes, indeed ArchiCAD is great software..
@@ar.rajeshpatil9639 Me too!
Can you tell me why you prefer Archicad than Revit ? Thanks
Khuong Dong archicad là phần mềm đk phát triển bởi team kiến trúc sư. Nó thân thiện hơn
@@vananle6764 Bạn ơi bạn có tài liệu gì hướng dẫn sử dụng archicad không cho mình xin với? Thanks
Currently working on a large project with Revit. We have 14 people working on the same model. It is a complete disaster. Constant syncing problems. Don’t buy Revit if a project requires more than 8 people.
now we working with 10 people in one project in one file/ The project consists of 5 sections of different heights and parking from 4 to 26 floors. The project in the archicade works fairly quickly.
I have +30 people working in one Revit model, (with lots of links), on different locations without issues. Performance is much more than just the software, its about hardware specs, model managing, workflows etc..
And how did you get to the conclusion that the disaster is caused by the software (Revit)?
In my case, at the office we have 8-12 people on the same Archicad Server. If we work more than 4 people on one project, there are serious delays because the server is just too old. I mean in our case we are not blaming Archicad for our hardware issues (and lazy managers who just won't spend any money on a new server).
I think you should call a server engineer and a Revit tehnincian in order to solve your problems which I think are more of hardware and workflow than software.
Sounds like you need an It Guy. I have done couple of projects with 12 to 18 people and no Sync issues. I Believe Revit is better for large projects.
How much do they pay?
Coming from commercial construction, there are a few big differences that always made my decision easier. #1-Interoperability, and being able to live link in PDFs (contract docs) #2-3D Working Environment, and gaining perspective on your modeling #3-Reporting Engine, and being able to shape and modify data with ease. Those who appreciate this functionality know my obvious preference. But both tools are powerful and continue to get better, one just at a faster pace :)
ContraBIM so which is your choice?
ArchiCAD is best in class for what I do... I view it more as the ideal content management tool, something that can bring all formats together for enhanced review, and creating optimal project context. Revit may be more widely used in commercial construction, but I'm ok with that as I maintain my competitive advantage again and again :)
@@CONTRABIM Love your videos, Indeed Archicad is much better, has everytihng in one place.
While using Revit it was really frustrating with all these families.
Archicad has most of the things you are looking for as an architect, if you really know how to use it (the complex shape design and quality rendering),
But I would really love to try Revit
I use both software, but the winner is ArchiCAD. The UI is much better and more sofisticated, and easier to creates drawings and layouts with much more flexibility. All together more suitable for design and plan creation. Revit has only one advantage: MEP.
i used first archicad in university, like 4 years and switched to revit because of my job. (1,5 years) . main difference imo.
archicad can import almost every file format, revit cant (pdf verctorisation not possible etc)
archicad can export almost every file format, revit cant
rendering is WAY BETTER with the cinerender than revit.
having 2d and 3d drafting possibilities in archicad ist worrh GOLD and much better than in revit (worksheets / blueprints( i know revit has it too, but works smoother)
revit is very good but i just miss some features of archicad in it. revit is lacking on some crucial points to be better than Archicad.
if you have archicad you dont need illustrator, Photoshop, or indesign. wich is a huuuuuge benifit.
I know, the 2D working environment in Archicad is just gold
Danke
Too many ads dude.
True. Here is the workarounds:
1. You don't give a damn of the work of the creators and use an adblocker. What matters is your confort alone.
2. You care and respect the creators work. You just browse through the video to reach the identifiable advert points. Go through them so they disappear. The creator and YT got their cash. You can rewind from where you stopped and go on uninterrupted.
Now I agree that is you get an ad every minute it is annoying but here, though there were many, it was still acceptable.
... then speak to Google, not the poor guy.
Be thankful.
use add blocks
@@ecereto UA-cam Premium is expensive.
Watch through addblocker
11:41 What he's talking about?? I can CUSTOMIZE EVERYTHING in ARCHICAD. Menus, panels, tools, where things are placed, everything... Just to know how to do it. ;)
I don't know any of these. I'm here out of curiosity. But very often we blame software without knowing it and without thinking about it.
Sure you can. Archicad the best
Maybe it's less and less relevant in a BIM world, but at our office the deliverables are still traditional technical drawings, and i've found the management of sheets and model views ridiculously overcomplicated and inefficient in Revit. You can't place a view on several sheets, you can't align the views without the help of a grid (still no Osnaps), can't link data from external files, can't really format your content to any acceptable degree. This aspect was not even mentioned in the video, but if your workflow includes traditional printed plans, it is a real everyday hassle in Revit. If you want to make pretty layouts for a presentation for your clients or even for an architectural competition, you can absolutely do that in ArchiCAD and you absolutely can't do that in Revit. Correct me if I'm wrong, these are my experiences with Revit2016.
ambrus kiss Thats good to know. Im an expert Revit user, and I always thought that this was a problem for Revit, you cant really do much with the layouts of sheets, or even with schedules, not many customizing options. Im currently learning Archicad, so you could say its a bit more friendly in that area? Thanks.
I think paper space in AC is much like a model space with 2D elements (and that's just not true for Revit). You can for example explode any 2D or 3D view into actual paper space elements like lines and hatches, and make really nice custom graphics out of your 3D model. Now that's what I call customizable in an architectural context. All you can do in Revit is changing the display properties of your actual 3D elements (which is also quite powerful in itself). In this aspect AC is a very good visualisation tool for architects, where Revit is rather a standardised tool for engineers without high visual expectations.
use revit 2020 and you will be happy
try the version of revit 2021 is much better and more professional than any other program
I tried both. Archicad becomes unbearably slow when working on a bigger project or when dealing with a complex shape. Try modeling the same complex shape in both softwares and the difference becomes really clear. It is awfull when working with meshes, modifying them is a nightmare or when modeling custom shapes, etc.... For me the Archicad is a looser.
I dropped archicad after Learning Revit in a proper way. Nowadays architects can’t work separately alone and the interoperability between all professional Entities is extremely important. Besides Archicad has some limits, by not having the full engine capacity to integrate a Massing modelling ( Morph Tools ) within the BIM culture. The model can look nice but the Plans are never reflecting the model and never updated. And for me this is a limit. While a massing in Revit can be easily be updated in the plans and sections. Anyway this a personal experience and i hope i am wrong. Thanks
Thank you for your video. I work with Revit for more than 12 years.
I'ld like to try Archicad but your video is not enough accurate to me because you stay in the general not explaining points as structural connection, topography, rebar, ... (Revit's lacks)
I'll try soon Revit 2020, and see if there are betterments...
My Revit library has more than 15.000 objets and a lot of them were made by myself. I'm working in French Polynesia with lot of adaptations to tropical conditions and for specific projects i had to manage (factories, auditorium, care center, ...)
Thank you again. You make a very very good work.
I am learning Revit and find it so slow and tedious. Archicad seems to have all the libraries in visual format, and looks like you can update sizes, configurations all in one go, rather than in Revit where you have to collect or build a whole bunch of different components to choose from. And detailing! Very stuck with creating thin roof eaves in Revit...Grrrrr!
You cant learn things fast unless you put heart to it. I used revit for many years and managed to do hundred thousand dollars of project. It just works and faster than Autocad. The only thing revit weak is interior designing which takes long time and i rather use alternate like Lumion colab with revit. So far i have no problem with that combo
Hope you learned it and accepted its inherent slopiness or ditched it by now
My first software in Architecture was SketchUp. I was very happy with it, but I wasn't able to do "real projects" with SketchUp.
Because of this, I migrated to Archicad+Rhino+Grasshopper. that was an amazing combination. after 3 years, I joined a great team as an interior designer/modeler (I work with 3Ds Max as well). The main software of the team was Revit.
I tried Revit for first time there and I surprised! after that, I learned Revit and other Autodesk Architectural and Civil softwares such as Civil3d and Advance Steel (I knew Autocad) as well as Infraworks.
Now I work on large scale projects. but I always say small projects are more interesting.
You can use every software you want, Revit, Archicad, SketchUp, Rhino, 3Ds Max, Vectorworks, Cheif Architect, FormZ and so on.
But if you want to work on "real projects" go for Revit or Archicad.
In large scale projects, Revit (Autodesk platform) is way to go.
Good luck.
which program do you prefer revit or archicad?
@@gueryfrank6689
Revit
@Pak Entertainment
Archicad is better for you
It's easier to learn and simpler to work.
For you mr. balkan
.check the KCC for Archicad 22 where you can see the new facade tool in archicad also its connection to grasshopper and the imagination limited conceptual design 4.
.check the data management part in the Kcc.
.MEP modeler for mechanical engineering is already implemented in archicad since archicad 20.
.Rhino export / import without damaging the geometry and joining it into one object as revit does.
.conceptual massing is a plus for revit but rhino/archicad acts better as in both cases ur working in separate files.
Mahmoud El-Moussa besides that Archicad is absolutely more costumizable than Revit. That was a wrong information.
mahmoud nails it. take notes, ba.
I got addicted to watching your videos💜💥
I liked the video. I actually waited for a long time for a video that tells me what am I missing not using Revit. Personally, I am an ArchiCAD user and fan but I cannot hide my admiration for your presentation and Revit as well!
i used archicad after being a revit user for 5 years , it was very enjoyable to how easy archicad can be specifically to how fast its the archicad blocks can be manipulated from inside the project no hassle needed , for small uncomplex projects archicad is a clear winner , but after a while i started meeting its limitation and the work around i had to do to get over some of the things revit does faster and easier so i immediately went back to revit , in my opinion the parameters and options revit gives you to control your project are uncompelled by any other architecture program .
overall revit is just a better BIM program .
Hi! Now that you have used both, could you give an example of the limits you found in archicad? And also in which situations Revit is faster with the parameters you mention.
Archicad looks more intuitive, simple and for architects at my eyes. It works very well and does 2D and 3D at the same time.
so does revit
Unfortunately, Archicad does not work realtime between views like in Revit.
You're right, sadly Archicad is not to common and studios ask for Revit :´(
@@Vannam123 well if you have a big monitor and move the view windows (section, ground floor, first floor ...) You can!
I use Revit for my external 3D while ArchiCad for all interior 3D
Can you open an archicad ifc file in revit without problems?
Can we take a second to appreciate how well this guy speaks English for someone his age and who doesn't have English as his first language!
I don't know, English is my third language and I can speak fluently, little better than him
Pozdrav. Da li je moguce u revitu uporediti 2 ifc fajla iz archicada, kako bi se uocile izmene koje su nastale od arhitekte? Archicad ima Archicad Connection plugin for Autodesk Revit koji omogucuje bolju saradnju ova 2 softvera i u archicadu se mogu uporediti 2 ifc modela, ne znam vazi li to i za revit.
Lets talk about IFC: there's only one model checker commonly used around the world: Solibri.
Now lets talk about IFC quality when exported from Archicad and Revit and read into Solibri: Archicad does great, Revit bug sometimes.
Why? Revit/Adsk is more worried to develop its process inside its "bubble", while ArchiCAD is worried about OPEN BIM, that means real BIM cause you'll never do a big bim inside a bubble unless this bubble have all kind of softwares, a pretty hard thing...
Revit "bug" sometimes, do you have any examples (not related to a specific Project)?
Yeah... I'm in the US, and every large contractor uses Navis not Solibri. The only models they usually get in IFC form are out of Tekla and from steel subs. Structural guys use Revit. And coordinating back and forth with consultants using IFC isnt great. Open BIM is like Android and Apple phones working in harmony. Great in theory. I wish it worked better, but I think it's a long long way off.
The huge potential of the Archicad is the GDL, and in Revit it's just a family very much in a primitive script language. I am a person who works professionally (including programming) and in Allplan and Revit, but Allplan is very truncated by GDL from Archicad, but he does not leave any chances Revit put anything on the scales.
Without any images, you made a perfect explanation.
I use Revit since Version 2.1 , I think in 2002 approx. I tried Archicad in those days as well, I choose Revit since then because is more intuitive. I recently was looking Tutorials of Archicad to compare. I have seen how is done structural connections and unique shapes of Beams. But seem to be done one by one in the Project rather than an element type (Family). My question is, if an structural connection is designed in the project as a unique thing. Is there a way in archicad to convert other beams and other columns the same type? Is possible to apply the same detail globally? I don't know if I explained my self. The tutorial I have seen brags how easy was to customize the beam and column to detail a connection but I did not see they can convert it in to a global solution or multiple instances. I wonder if is even possible. So far I like Revit much better. Less steps to do things.
If you are an engineer.. stay with Revit. I have to admit Revit is more better at certain point.
My dear u forgot the great link between Tekla structure and Archicad , which doesnt work well if u export from revit to Tekla , and regarding the render i think every one now is using the best render solution (Lumion ) . For the price in revit u have to renew every year in case of Archicad u will pay one time for ever . and regarding the B.I.M , if archicad is not the best one then what is it for , Graphisoft is the first company who invinted B.l.M and finally i am not marketing for Archicad they r not paying me any .. thx .
The first B.I.M. software was actually Sonata and not ArchCAD
Hmm.. your comment make sense tho. I hate and never buy a software with yearly subscription.
why do you have to buy while you can use crack or student version
Mezmure Dawit ok use student version but crack sorry this is not legal .they r working hard to get things done
Your saying you pay a few grand for Archicad once off and you have it for life? That doesn’t seem feasible.
It's simple really (and that's why this si basically clickbait video). Revit is Autodesk copy of Archicad, plain and simple, since they become aware they will loose market with their outdated architectural version of Autocad against Archicad, Allplan etc, which are true "bim" tools from teh start. Autodesk is "murica" firm, that's why it got so much "support", where autocad users automatically switch (or been forced) to Revit, which becomes holly grail of bim, at least by the "media" (again, totaly wrong).
And your comparing these two softwares are not 100% correct, it really shows you're not familiar with archicad (and that's why all this kinds of videos are not true representation of reality). But i really do like your style of design and use of the (revit) software, looking for something similiar in archicad world (there are some great guys on tube, but hard to find somebody little bit modern orienteted).
Autodesk bought Revit, which has nothing to do with AutoCAD and there for was a BIM tool from start.
@@patriklundqvist6237 exactly this is the reason some basic functions are lacking: PDF import (only from R2020), proper ifc linking, and schedule export to excel
Versgeperst Not sure I understand, there is both IFC linking open/convert or link, and Schedule export to Excel..
I know that ARCHICAD is many time better of Revit...but why (here in Italy) every studios requests Revit and no-one Archicad?
Second consideration, Archicad is better as single program for a project.
But I think that if you add Revit + Inventor + Vault you can manage every single question of a project from concept to executive.
Huge thing about student license is that archicad projects that get made with student license cannot be opened with a full license, only a student one. So I have friends that made their final project using a student license and later on payed for the program and wanted to use their project on their portfolio and was a pain to access it...
Thank you very much, your review is so important to me cause I'm a designer.now I'm happy that I`m using Archicad as I'm not into construction details, so I will never face a problem with my design, Thank you again.
Hello, mr Balkan.
I prefer Revit. Because I'm scan-to-bim specialist. So I work with point clouds, and Revit is wayyy more optimised to work with point cloud than ArchiCAD. Yes, it's difficult to learn Revit, especially at the beginning, but after you understand the way it works, definetely it's a good tool to model projects from point clouds.
may i ask how much expertise with point clouds and archicad do you have?
price is described wrong, archicad pay once use forever, revit- annual licence payment, so revit is far more expensive.
Correct
This is 2022, I just realized what is for the Dynamo icon in my desktop. Thanks Balkan.
What can I say for sure is that "sketching" and conceptual "sculpting" is way too easy with ArchiCAD more intuitive and goes with two clicks. In revit you have to do things line by line and going in some "mode" of sketching then exit it - too many klicks for super simple tasks.
Another thing that I see as a very big minus in revit is that you work in 3d view with axonometry. In other words, you can't go inside your building and see what is like to live in there in a way.
But both software has their own good sides and this is the reason why I started to learn revit.
I am Revit user just like you, but i think ArchiCAD better than Revit as you said in the conceptual phase, but in my country Revit more common than ArchiCAD, so i can not go with ArchiCAD
It's matter of knowledge when people understand the purpose of the IFC , then they can solve any issue , it's like 3dsmax vs sketchup , sketchup is much easier then 3ds max
and designed to suite the designers , again u will c some one using 3dsmax and says it's better .
in my country, archicad is more common than revit but then i got project from different country which they used revit as their main software and i had to learn revit in short time to suit into the team.
since that time i used both software and i realize i shoul learn a lot software not only being fanboy of a software since each software has their advantages and disadvantages. Capable using so many software such Archicad, Revit, 3ds Vray/corona/etc, lumion, unreal enginge, etc giving me huge advantages and make me get projects easily.. that was my experience. but maybe others have another perspective about this
I use them both, but I'm master in ArchiCAD, and I make outstanding projects with it.
Well as an architect, the best BIM software is ArchiCAD, it's very intuitive and amazing with decorated projects, also clients love it a lot using BIMx and VR.
And in visual programming, ArchiCAD uses grasshopper with Rhino, and it's the best for parametric design with no doubt.
Also with interoperability I personally use ETABS with just a click from ArchiCAD, I transform my project to it.
And hey bro, you are not the good one to make this comparison, because you aren't good in ArchiCAD, you need to learn them both so you can compare, not just been a fanboy.
Mohamed Mokrane use Grevit it’s analog of Archicad and Grasshopper connection
Every point you make can be made for Revit. It's subjective.
Perfect. The major of guys here are thinking and talking in BIM in the architecture view point, only.
please do you know cost calculation in archicad
archicad have mep.
Hmm... I use Revit but this makes me want to try Archicad. I hate conceptual designing in Revit. I actually start concept in SketchUp which is super easy and fast and when I'm ready I got to Revit. Doing something conceptually in Revit is a nightmare.
Is true, In the old days, I think until version "Revit 8" (not Revit 2008) I mean Revit 8, It use to be a much better set of tools for conceptual design. Much better and simpler and much more stable in my opinion. Everything was done with 3D solids and bulling operations similar to the old commands from Autocad 3D solids . After they replaced the commands with the new style, I never liked anymore. I rather do it in sketch up
You discuss a "Clash of the Titans" but forget to mention Vectorworks! All of the features of both in one program. No need for external plug ins or switching back and forth between external programs. All in one program with ability to do all of the functionality including cross platform (both MAC & PC), ability to work in 2D & 3D seamlessly, Fully customizable tools, creative parametric modeling for ultimate freedom to design, site modeling for detailed use of site data including GIS & point cloud data, true BIM workflow with OpenBIM standards, graphical scripting for algorithmic means to orchestrate and dictate design forms and customizations without programming experience, exceptional presentation graphics with customized styles so you can produce just the right look you need - AND BEST OF ALL - no subscription! You OWN IT FOREVER!!
i dont think you have fully explored ArchiCAD
Some have mentioned it already but still - only ArchiCAD works on mac and that makes it much more user-friendly in the first place.
I think both softwares are good, refer whichever you required.
I have used Archicad and Revit, I am sorry to tell you that the advantages offered by archicad are enormous, it will not be long for Revit to stay on the road ... nowadays it has become a BIM reference but those who dominate look for something better, will end up using and recognizing that Archicad is still far superior
Thank you so much for this!
NOP
I think archicad has a better ui and fluidity of work is good. although revit is industry standard, archicad is better in terms of drafting or modeling in 3d. It just feels cleaner neater and more real. Archicad is really simple and very easy to learn.
I am a mechanical engineer and work with Fusion360. How big is the difference to jump to REVIT? My invention product is special own design - hollow steel beam /post element. I would like to use my STEP for REVIT and create building structure. I also look for some professionals as a freelancer
Hello is Revit 2018 still good to use right now?
1985 autocad..dumped it in one day! 1994 archicad 4.5, in just 10 days from open box, self taught and presented to client. 2000 landed in firm and learnt vectorworks. 2004 learnt revit and dumped it within a week. In my last 20+ years, I have used archicad 4.5, 7, 17 and 20…no software is as intelligent as Archicad. it is designed for designer who understands how design a building; and produce technical documents that are accurate, and buildable; friendly-user without any bells and whistlers that don't work; and best of all, seamless coordination with other software users…in the smallest file size.
Learn Revit and dump it in a week? Did you think you really learnt Revit? Anyways I'm currently learning ArchiCad but the tutorials I'm seeing...
This was so helpful!! Thank you
What is an affordable alternative to both, please?
Thank you!
This is the best free software Ive seen. Respect.
I'm switching from ArchiCAD to Revit (after 3 years AC) and you're helping me with that at the moment.
Thank you for that 😅!
Btw how did you learn Dynamo?
how's the going? Was the transition successful?
ARCHICAD and TWINMOTION
hello, may I ask are they the best software combination for designing building? is Twinmotion the best rendering for Archicad?
@@willavillar82 for me yes
im a revit fanboy as well , i have worked on revit from university days up until now and i wont be leaving it anytime soon , but even i cant argue that archi cad destroys revit in pretty much everything , if youre an architect who wants to design then you should most definitely go to archicad , revit is more oriented towards drafting really
thanks for your compassion
I always tend to go back to Archicad anytime I use Revit. but a lot of firms are using Reivit so I don't know
I use revit, it's not so friendly as archicad, but I don't have experience on rendering with Revit yet, so I use 3d max to render as to show to clients. But I am learning more on you tube . I think Autodesk have to develope more Revit, so can be more friendly to work .
try lumion 8 and forget all other render and vis. softwares
I liked your honesty about liking revit better! I subbed cause of it.
Good day friend
From where should i start a stage with levels, like singers or show stages ? shall i open an architecture file and do it on levels ? can you help ........ thanks in advance
Cannot find a single video about vectorworks vs archicad.
Might find one comparing Windows Phone to iPhone before you find that...
my dear balken how to import archicad file to revit please make video on this
Thank you for video. I chose also Revit for the reson of student licence. In our compani we buy the AEC collection and its very cook package. Nice work.
I have used nearly every CAD software from Datacad to mircostation... to Archicad and now Revit..its it’s revit all the way ... far far more superior software...I agree with u Balkan architect.
That's a matter of preference, not a matter of which one is superior to the other.
Dude, I was excited to see a 2018 Revit VS ArchiCAD review video but you disappointed a lot of viewers I see by the comments.
I can not believe this video of your's are 2018. You continually make gross incorrect statements.
From start to finish it is clear that you just don't know what you are talking about. If you don't know, you should not even make a comparison video like this one.
- Error In your video at 3:10 ARCHICAD was able since ARCHICAD 11 in 2007 already to work with Multistory Hotlinked Modules. (you probably were still in school then)
I stopped listening at 7:05, it makes no sense to keep listening because you are not answering the question in the topic of your video.
I see in the comments that I am not the only person that has this response.
You should not waste your time on things you know nothing about. If you want to do head-to-head reviews you should do some homework first.
There is a wide community that will happily show and teach you what you don't know.
This could help you to get started:
helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25683/
helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/25852/
Then come back and re-do this video, if you are interested to be fair and actually do a review and not a Revit sales video. Or simply change the video topic.
Would be interested to hear if you have any input to the actual discussion? I am a BIM Consultant and this question turns up now and then.
Although the content of this video is unrelated, I have no problem answering your question @@patriklundqvist6237
Balkan Architect
's video topic aims to do 2 things: 1. compare Revit & ArchiCAD and 2. answer the question "Which is Better?"
My short answer is:
1. Revit & ArchiCAD are similar but also very different software (just refer to the comments in this thread).
But their differences actually make it impossible to compare "apples-to-apples" (if we are honest with ourselves).
They are not made to be or do the same.
2. Better at what? Both Revit & ArchiCAD are better at some things and not so good at other things.
They were made to be different for reasons guided by their makers. Software is a "take-it-or-leave-it" kind of deal. Unless you want to hack into it (which would be illegal) or develop your own legal AIP. [again: choices]...
Life, work, play, is about choices:
Even in choosing software, we have to honestly consider both the objective (facts only) perspective and the subjective (personal opinion / emotional) perspective.
Software is just tools, so is our knowledge of and practical skills in a field, our time and other resources available to us. Choosing software is only the beginning.
So I say each of us have to choose what works best for what we have to do today / tomorrow. There is no correct or wrong answers here. Whatever you choose for whatever reason or purpose, that would be the correct choice, FOR YOU (or your company or project).
If for some reason you made an error in judgement at that time or new software versions brought changes to how you must work, you could simply adjust along the way. Again you would have a choice in this instance and you will learn valuable lessons along the way. You will improve by experience and your choices will deliver better, more efficient results for your desired outcome.
In my view there is a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT question/s we should be asking ourselves:
- what is the best I can do / offer with the software / tools I currently have, and
- what or how should I, my tools or offering change to become better and offer more.
To me, this will contribute more to the value I create in a field and this (among other aspects) means that I will continually aim and grow to become a master of any tool my job / project requires for it's best outcome.
Thanx for taking the time to answer! I agree with most of your thoughts, and as BIM consultant i am not pro or against either one. Ive been working professionally with both, think they do a great job with the right userknowledge and I have seen quite complex buildings like hospitals made in both systems! I am an Autodesk reseller since early 90s, but I have always been interested in comparing different workprocesses and tools, mainly because I might learn something new from the "other" side. I agree the question "which is better" is not really the question here, I would rather call it "the best choice at the moment as an architect, with my earlier experience and future coming demands".However, a little more info (not just hearsay) is maybe of good use for lets say clients (in this case Architects) moving to BIM from a 2D environment. (typically AutoCAD/LT). If I am to recommend Revit or ArchiCAD to a potential customer I would like it to be based on more than just rumours from for example userforums with lots of people not really initiated. Ofcourse the customers can download a trial, but that might not be enough to do a proper evaluation according to ones needs. So therefore I welcome inputs like this from BA in trying to give a perspective, and then its up to me/the future user to find the nuggets among the bullshit in the commenting area.
@@patriklundqvist6237 yes we are in many ways in the same position. Both BIM Consultants, both with practical project expertise & insight on Revit and ARCHICAD (+other BIM/CAD tools). You are also correct, it could be a challenge for most users to make sense of the wide variety of info to influence their own decisions about moving their businesses forward.
And that is just the reason for my disappointment with Balkan Architect
's video. This was a missed opportunity to deliver real value. It ends up actually not answering the real question. It just raises even more questions to the viewer.
In the end it always comes back to each individual / company taking the bold step and make a decision on how, when and where to start and JUST GO FOR IT. Make your best possible choice and live with the consequence. It will be ok. Especially if you have or ask for help, you do not need to do this all by yourself. There are people you can trust to give you honest answers that is in your best interest and not in their's.
It is important to remember that this is a journey for all of us and not a destination. One specific tool will never solve all our future problems or satisfy our or our client's needs. The only thing that is certain is that things will keep changing and we will have to adapt to all the changes and the challenges we face in work and life.
For people that are serious about finding answers about moving from 2D to BIM and to choose between Revit or ARCHICAD, at least there are enough comments from active users of both Revit and ARCHICAD in this thread to give them a good overview of what working in these are like in an active workflow. That is if they are willing to spend the time reading and sifting through it all. Most people do not have the time or patience to actually do that.
To make the decision about "Revit or ARCHICAD?" we all have 2 routes we could take if we want to succeed:
1. low level research:
- go by our gut feel,
- just run a trail or
- ask a buddy
2. consider all the factors that could affect our business:
- cost (long & short term)
- functionality
- hardware requirements (impacts on startup and future cost)
- usability & performance
- initial training and continued learning
- setup, templates and office standards
- collaboration & co-ordination of project drawings & data
- access to effective local and high level tech support (in-house, consultancy & vendor)
- possible client / project specific requirements
- future business growth objectives
- needed changes to the business / workflows and resources to address the new technologies
(the business and work of being an AEC Professional has changed a lot in the past 10-15 years!)
The faster you can start the journey, the faster you can learn from the process and adjust to reach your objective for success.
PS: I must say, looking at the volume and type of response, Balkan Architect
does at least succeed in drawing attention to his content.
What about workin with a point clound? Which software is better to use if i want to build a house in 3d from a point cloud? Thanks for your replay ;)
One thing I'm going to tell you, mate. If anything is ArchiCAD is customisation made real. You can change any icon of any palette of any tool of any dialog box of any shortcut. There is anything in ArchiCAD UI that can't be customised. Nothing there for Revit to compare.
I simple stopped the video in that point.
His not talking baout dyam icons and Ui dumbo, we are talking about drawings, types, paramatric instances and objects that formulate drawings styles in a integlligent software. Archicad is quite far from these types of customization
I love Revit. But wish to learn and master in ArchiCAD as well.
We are completely opposite
you have now more viewers... best wishes... 😍😍👍👍
You missed ArchiCADs biggest draw, which is the ability to work in perspective. It also looks a lot better while modeling (not render). The visualization is the reason I can't use Revit, it's not conductive for creativity imo.
Давно пытаюсь решить, что удобнее из этих программ. Ранее работал в Архикаде. Сейчас изучаю Ревит. На мой взгляд в Архикаде гораздо удобнее работать в 3Д окне, это для архитектора на стадии концептуального проектирования очень важно!
Revit is an Architects dream come true!!! I send my students to your tutorials. They are excellent. Thank you!
Hi balkan,i agree with u too
But i would classify them as such:
Archi cad best for bespoke small to medium practices (awesome for private residential to small public project studios).
Revit king for medium to big corporation practices with mep electrical ,structural ,management visualization. and more needed coordinated work
Thts what they feal like coz i ve used them both for almost 5 years.
As Balkan said i left Archi cad in vertion 16 when morph tool came out coz revit conceptual mass curtain panel addaptive components ...environment was way to liberating for anything tht i whanted to do.
Archi cad shuld decide their marketing target i still fill they whant to overcome autodesk but thts a lost battle they shuld focus on small private practices.
Ifound Grace small practice , i think BIG company is one of largest arch. Design company in usa and they r using Archicad
Fares Jawad yes but those companies have somthing called personalized add-ons based on their specific project and Graphysoft has special arrangements... Plus they use more rihino and grasshopper then define it on archicad they dont design on archicads platform
IN LIFE U COULD ALWAYS ARGUE SAYING THERE IS SOMEONE BUT THT DON'T MAKE IT A NORM.....
"STATISTICS",NUMBERS,PATTERNS, GIVE U REALISTIC VIEW NOT EXCEPTION.
Ifound Grace Ok most of the work in archicad , if the project is so complecated yes they will use rhino and grasshoper just like dynamo for revit
what do you think of vectorworks?
Maybe the best work flow is Rhino(concept)+ Revit(management+documentation)?
How about an update comparison with vectorworks?..
Sounds you're using Rhino with grasshopper... Did you give a try on visualarq? Sounds interesting and way cheaper than both Revit and archicad...
You make me want to become an architect. I always wanted to as a kid because I was into drawing and enjoyed drawing homes and designs but I never ended up taking it anywhere. Now it’s too late to go back to school and spend the amount of time it requires to graduate with papers. Do you know if there are workers in that industry that are self taught ? Is it possible ?
it's possible if you don't mind making little money :) it seems to be a profession that is slowly shrinking in demand due to automation and oversupply of eager students who have a passion for architecture despite the shrinking demand.
I've been working with Autocad for 32 years. Revit for the last 4 or 5 years and I'm trying to pick up MicroStation and AECOism now too. Here in the UK Network Rail, one of my employers main clients need to have drawings supplied in dng format. I'd rather model structures in Revit but I guess those needed for our rail projects will need to be done in AECOism. I wonder if doing them in Revit and exporting them as dgn files provided all the elements are supported.
I am revit user but i think Bim X s better than Bim 360 glue as a model viewer l.
Archicad is the way to go especially for an architectural firm who does small scale projects like residential projects. Archicad is more flexible and with its direct export to sketchup, it makes it easier to collaborate with other software such as lumion whereas revit needs a whole plugin installed just to export to sketchup or lumion. One thing that I wish Archicad did have is the temporary floating dimensions when you select an element and also the family creation side of revit.
They have already built the temporary dimensions in ArchiCAD 27
can i knw a online platform to learn archi cad
What about VectorWorks I know its not known as much as ArchiCad or Revit, but its also a BIM program?
In you're video you compare a lot of things but glance over one if the most important things. In order to work in a good BIM workflow on a project the proper and easy way of generating correct IFC files is vital. As you say both can work with IFC but it takes so much more effort to create it from revit. Archicad is almost works natively with IFC parameters, which results in a smooth import and export. In many countries it is mandatory to deliver proper IFC files, thats why this is so important. In that department archicad is superior. All the other features you mention depend on the philosphy and the office and how designers and engineers prefer to work, both are great for each task. I think good BIM shouldn't depend on the software of one company, thats why Open BIM is so important. Lets keep developers revit, archicad, allplan, vectorworks and so many more focussed on an open workflow as users. Interact with them, let them know what is important to us users.
yo bro, really thankya. Big respect
Hi milo. Love you!
It is ‘which is better?’
How do we compair the size of file in Archicad and Revit
People or designer look allways about easy , not complexe and simple tools in order to present their work so in the end the important product is your design your idea ... i worked with both and for me archicade is the best programme for architects and specially buildings designs
They should pay you! Your videos are awesome! Any question I have I UA-cam search if you have a video for it FIRST and there hasn't been many times that you don't. Thank you!
ArchiCAD is way ahead than Revit.. As an architect i am very much satisfied with ArchiCAD.. Working in ArchiCAD makes me feel like as I am "Designer" and on other hand Revit makes you feel as if you are a "Draftsmen"..
rajesh where r u from? how long u r using ARCHICAD?
@@ajaytonpe3452 I am from Pune and using ArchiCAD for past 14year's
N how about you
@balkanarch da li držiš (ili možeš da preporučiš ) neku školu ) za časove archicada/revita?
Boss tNice tutorials mate, thanks
For someone who is extremely experienced with working in archicad, how hard will it be to learn Revit?
I have used archicad for almost 6 years but recently started using revit because of ease for engineering detailing. Hardest part is getting around interface. Once you get comfortable with that , it isn't difficult. Took me a month to really get into it.
I use revit and none of the architects I know use archicad. But I’m thinking about learning archicad because I want to buy a Mac. But I still don’t know if its worth to migrate that much.
QUESTION PLEASE ! What is the best option for rendering in Archicad?