Second rule is to assume it was built by a pair of 6 year old kids in about 10 minutes with less training or instructions than they packed in that box along with it.
Yeah exactly. I'm always appalled at the casting sand + bits of machining chips that I find inside every Chinese engine. Every single one. I bought one of those knockoff China Stihl chainsaw clones and pulled a 1" long aluminum curly fry right out of the combustion chamber when I took it apart. Anyone who just fills a Chinese engine with oil and tries to start it is a fool. Or hasn't been bit by the Chinese QC bug before.
it's a Sechuan Sifa MB168F. There are several companies. It will use a lot of oil during break in. I never opened the steel line. I just wired the decompressor lever down and pulled until the exhaust smelled of diesel. Afterword, I recommend cranking in the throttle stop bolt five turns and lock it. Even a small throttle will start on full fuel and drop when it starts turning. Mount it on a thick plate of aluminum, not steel. You're missing your fuel filter.
@Prosper_Dean I don't recon I would down right call anyone ignorant, I have watched a few UA-cam Videos of them making tennis balls and such. Setting in the dirt under some little hut making tennis balls. They looked like the same ones you would get from a sporting goods store. I don't know?. What I seen.
@@michaelhoneycutt7138you're right and I apologize, brother 👍 there is a lot of misunderstanding and disinformation regarding China and I get so tired of it the way it makes my compatriots perceive the country at a time when our government is posturing for war with said country. My fault for being rude and I hope you have a nice day.
they know the rate of failure of the stuff they sell and provide replacement parts to not have to bother with returns and warranties. a friend bought some big digital photonprinters a few years back and each machine came with at least 3 replacement for each part from rollers and PCBs to LEDs and they were still cheaper than japanese or french machines, including shipping. he still had to cannibalize four of those to have three working units after 7 years. all in all, it wasn't really worth it with the lifetime of the machine due to repair and maintenance downtime over the years and some parts are no longer available so the three will soon turn two or one working unit... 😑
@@chadfren Yeah but people are stupid and can barely handle 2 dimensions when driving ,and they want to add a 3rd? Actually,good idea!!! ...if they do it right ,and leave off the warning labels this could be helpful for the future.
America allows the Chinese government to buy and own land in the U.S., how do you think it will go for us if we copy a well known Chinese engine design?
If only you could experience express freight from the inside! People want freight moved fast, and the volume is huge. Little time to move much freight equals some things getting banged up. Express freight needs to be prepared for the trip, but some companies do not want to spend the little extra to insure safe passage. Proper packaging is essential.
One thing I learned from owning a Chinese street legal dirt bike, is all the bolts are loose. Take them out, blue loctite, torque it down. If you don’t, it will rattle out and disappear lol.
@@J0HN_3_16 You mean a Harley or Indian, neither of which make a dirt bike style dual sport like I mentioned I owned. The only bikes you can get like that under $6k are Japanese bikes. The only one you’re getting for under $2k is a Chinese clone of said Japanese bikes.
I have bought 3 of these over the last couple years, I would suggest opening the crankcase before you start it and check the rod and main bolts. The first one I received had a rod bolt that wasn't even finger tight, there was a gap under the head.
I don't want to say this: our business buys parts from China, just like most manufacturers. Ten years ago, quality was questionable at best, but now it's better than anything being made in the USA. Don't underestimate our trade frenemies... at least on the finished parts we receive, China is delivering quality stuff. Not on everything, but that is the direction they are going. I believe that Americans have an incorrect or old idea of Chinese goods and the way they are being manufactured. My advice is to NOT DISMISS the Chinese because now they are also creating unique products, not just copying our designs. We need to step up our game, stay competitive, and reclaim our manufacturing dominance. This is from someone who hates that most of our goods come from China.
As long as they can out produce us at a much better price we will never bring manufacturing back. Companies don't want made in the US or to support American companies they want as cheap as possible so they can mark it up 400% and sell it to broke in debt Americans. Once China takes over as the super power we will be the ones making things for them and the rest of the world for pennies on the dollar.
Indeed, do not dismiss the Chinese, they play the long game and they play dirty and they are capable at manufacturing for less without the pesky EPA and OSHA regulations, not to mention subsidizing the "dumping" of their products on world markets to destroy their competition. China of course is helping with the takedown of the US via it's toxic TikTok social media, which is intentionally designed as a weapon to destroy America's youth. There is a reason the Chinese are banned from using it.
For China made parts, you are paying for the QA/QC. And if ain't on the print it ain't the part. Some enginerds I worked with found that out when they didn't specify mil-spec on some anodized 6061 parts and just put "black anodize" before chamfering and deburring on the operations list. They then complained when acetone dissolved the cheap anodize and the parts were deburred after they were dipped. Good prints + good qa = good parts. Bad shops have bad qa (or none) and make parts. Especially of these rapid prototyping companies that outsource your sanitized prints, I made better parts on a Laguna knee mill with a p-vise and a Bison rotab than what Xometry would "rapid response" for us. Machinists don't get paid enough, they want CNC operators to press buttons and every engineering team is trying to convince the bean counters to budget a cheap 5 axis they'll use once a year. My heart goes out to every machinist on a mill or lathe because I know they aren't making enough,
Believe it or not they’re still an awful lot of manufacturing done in the US. You just don’t hear about it and think of where China was when Covid hit. I think we got most of our supplies from China. People forget they’re still communist and they’ve got one mission ,I’ll let you research that about politics. Have a good day.
A diesel go kart, that is just wild. I'd love to see it in action, I hate diesel but love the engines and their extreme versatility. I'd want to try and run one on vegetable oil or sunflower oil, kinda like what the old diesels were designed to run on
There are quite a few videos of my diesel kart on the channel. Yeah I know of one guy that was running one of these on vegetable oil but he had to heat it so it would flow well enough.
Its this new generation. Back in my day you could find a 12 yo Chinese willing to do quality work. Now days its constant complaining about the 12 hour day and always wanting water before their 15 minute lunch break.
Thats why you buy 2, 1 to use and one for parts….works great unless the same thing fails multiple times 😂. Really though there is a parts manual with it and can get parts in about 5-6 days
Fortunately with the latest ship refits the CIWS system can depress its barrels to be able to hit drones much closer than before. Nothing is gonna make it thru a solid wall of tungsten rounds.
When those aircraft carriers are in areas where they have no business being they are free game as far as I am concerned. Besides, whose not to say the navy didn't float that carrier all the way over there to get it get hit because they want a new carrier. It's only our tax dollars they're spending
9/10 the shaft punches through the packaging. I had to tear down and replace the block on a Honda 8hp that was shipped ground, just encased in foam. During shipping they dropped it right on the corner and it wouldn't hold oil. I learned a lot about small engines that day.
It's always a good feeling when there's a hole in the side of the box from shipping.. Its doesn't there's damage but it makes you kind of nervous opening it!
I know! Both of them came with holes in the side and the first one I got had the flywheel caved in so bad it was hitting the flywheel and the engine would turn over at first.
@@jwsbackyard6413Express freight needs to be well packaged. The amount of freight, and the tight time schedule means that it may not be handles the way you may prefer.
Yeah I knew it was a vent was just really rambling. Didn’t come with any tubing to go on it though. What’s interesting is the first one of these I got didn’t have that vent.
Seriously, there are some really good factories in China these days. Even some top notch product design. The problem is that there are also a ton of really terrible factories... So buying random Chinese imports is a crap shoot with pretty bad odds.
And there people still will be unwilling to stay in any fight. The problem is not funding the military stuff the problem is all Chinese are bred to be afraid to die. I've seen nothing, but Chinese fighters run from every single fight they have ever been in. They also can't train their kids young as no one is allowed to own a gun other than military not even the cops have guns as they don't have to fear guns they just have electric batons.
@@DerelictDan69north America isn't the only optionb though. Pretty much all of China's neighbors besides N Korea and Russia are US partners or allies.
Easily available in the form of a spare engine, cheap enough to buy 2 just to have parts on hand. Buddy bought 2 for little yard toys and 2 for spare parts, tore one down and put the parts on a shelf and hept one whole for a back up but been running them for a year with no issues. If hadnt bought spares the two used would have likely scattered in a week😂…..yes and 75% of the bolts were not tight
There is two styles of those 196cc diesels. That one with the breather on top metal intake and injector on the side cover like that one are better quality in my opinion. They also come in a wood box and seem to maybe run a bit better?
Yeah I have the other red version as well. This one seems like it is better quality at least by appearance. Haven’t started this one up yet but the red one has been reliable over the years.
@@jwsbackyard6413 ya. I have both too. Have not run either yet. But in videos they seem to have a smoother idle and less missing. The build quality and shipping is definitely better on the orange and my first red came smashed and no compression. lol.
That would be interesting. I’m thinking the red one was an older model because I’ve had some comment that their red version looks more like the orange one and came in a crate also.
We couldn't even keep Briggs & Stratton in the country. Now, they're owned by an investment company who solely contract with Chinese factories to make their engines.
Where are your jocks and socks made. Try to find anything made in your country. It's nearly impossible to find anything made in Australia. The only thing China makes that last more than a month is Chinese worker's on Visa's. They import fucking thousands into Australia.
They used to ship them in only a cardboard box with literally only a quarter inch of flat styrofoam on top and bottom. So this is a step up. People are talking it way too serious.
They have the capacity to produce quality products, but after getting good reviews from consumers about a particular product, they seem to cut corners around for the later batches.
China is about 5000 years old. They have been making and improving the art of metallurgy, woodworking, etc...for centuries. They can make things of higher quality than you've ever seen with nothing but hand tools and sweat. It all comes down to cost. The reason we get cheap, low quality items from there is because that's what the companies that contract and buy from them bring over. They pay very low price...charge you high price.
China Market research: Americans value first impressions more than build quality. Improve packaging with more foam and a wood box first to see if the perception of quality is enough. We will put reliability and build quality in the parking lot.
Im not defending some of the shady stuff China does nor the lack of quality in some of their products but the first one of these I bought has had zero issues for 3+ years of use. More reliable than any of the gas engines I use.
@@CharredSteakYou're sending money out of the country to save yourself a buck in the short term, and make some Chinaman rich, along with fueling their government regime a little more with that money. Millions of us doing this, hollowing out our economies to make China rich.
@@Qui-9The reality is the opposite. We are ripping them off by buying their products. They are paying incentives to make their products cheaper and more appealing to the western customers with their own tax money. They think they are developing a market for their own products overseas, but we won't buy their products once they cut the incentive and expect us to purchase their crap at the price we pay for some real brands.
Ivhad my mi d made up as soo as you said china, i know that i cant avoid all things from them but I'll never make a conscious decision to purchase anything from China. Its all crap and i would never take a chance.
Now they just need two more pieces of foam and packaging could be 100% safe to ship. That's not asking to much of a seller, if you want return customers.
Just a reminder for you all... companies can make cheap, poor quality items in China. Some companies can also make *excellent* quality items at competitive prices, also in China. Xenophobia and fervent nationalism shouldn't overshadow reason and common sense. Grizzly machine tools are one example of a Chinese made item that's good quality and fairly priced. The higher tier items from Harbor Freight are also good examples of performance per dollar (or Peso for our Southern counterparts 😅)
Everyone buys Chinese products.. They literally manufacture most of the worlds goods. Throw your phone in the bin and buy 100% American made one lol. Milwaukee tools made in China too.
@@hoobaguy when they (USA government) are taking half of our own earned money to give away and waste, giving billions to others while our own go homeless and hungry, supporting this pride which destroys, and feeding aborted babies to us? That's what you support are those your principles? It's all evil every way you look at it. Look at our ingredients list and compare it to the same product and brand from Europe, and see what I mean. America most definitely is not the good guys.... We murder more of our own children than the rest of the world combined.
You can't say that when our PSA AKs are so shitty that people are still after some eastern european metal sheets in 2024. Chinese norincos are near unobtanium.
I don't know how much experience you have with these Chinese engines, but I wouldn't use that gas tank. We had issues with them racing go-karts and they always leaked. So we we quit using them early in the game.
XD. The quality you'll get out of that little engine will probably depend largely on how much you paid for it. The higher the price, the better, but remember it's still made in China, so it's best not to get your hopes too high.
Take the crankcase cover off the engine and inspect for metal shards and debris. The Chinese reuse the engine oil from engine to engine when they test run them and when they reuse the oil, it is not filtered like the United States does. I have found that if they have previously had a catastrophic failure, that contaminated oil will go into the next engine and while the next engine may not be affected by the contaminated oil, the oil will leave metal shards and debris behind in the good new test run engine. Do yourself a favor and purchase a new gasket and take the cover off of the crankcase and wash the inside of the engine out with mineral spirits and then refill with fresh oil. Also never use the oil that comes with any Chinese engine, unless it is sae rated. The Chinese use oils from things that would blow our minds if we knew what they were and I know some of what they are and I am not going into detail on here
Yeah I suggest a complete disassembly and reassembly of the little guy!!! You just might want to improve a few things internally before reassembly!!! Just completely go through it like the amish do when they buy a new farm tractor or combine and go through it so not only do they get to know the critter but can improve any deficiencies they may run into!!!! It could make it run for a very long time down through the years!!!!
World’s First Diesel PowerWheels- The Build Begins- 196cc Diesel
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First rule about buying no name Chinese products, assume that every single bolt is loose
Yep, full rebuild required if you care about your investment. Then a turbo lol
Second rule is to assume it was built by a pair of 6 year old kids in about 10 minutes with less training or instructions than they packed in that box along with it.
Yeah exactly. I'm always appalled at the casting sand + bits of machining chips that I find inside every Chinese engine. Every single one. I bought one of those knockoff China Stihl chainsaw clones and pulled a 1" long aluminum curly fry right out of the combustion chamber when I took it apart. Anyone who just fills a Chinese engine with oil and tries to start it is a fool. Or hasn't been bit by the Chinese QC bug before.
The first rule is, avoid it at all costs. 😂
That's why, most Kholer Courage suffered internal damage. Bearing caps NOT torque to specs. Head bolts, not torqued to specs...etc...
it's a Sechuan Sifa MB168F. There are several companies. It will use a lot of oil during break in. I never opened the steel line. I just wired the decompressor lever down and pulled until the exhaust smelled of diesel. Afterword, I recommend cranking in the throttle stop bolt five turns and lock it. Even a small throttle will start on full fuel and drop when it starts turning. Mount it on a thick plate of aluminum, not steel. You're missing your fuel filter.
why not a steel plate?
@@desertblbuesman I assuming its because of heat. Steel will hold the heat longer than aluminum will.
I love this paragraph guy and his tips to pimp that ride!!
Cool
@@desertblbuesman Where two dis similar metals contact each other, corrosion is accelerated.. 🥃😎👌
"Lets hope they tightened down everything else in the engine" - sounds like famous last words 🤣
Red Locktight that whole thing!
@willknight1005 do you also Red Locktight your penis?
Or - *Vibra-Tite.* (I use this on the Ebike. Allows taking bolted fasteners apart and reassembling several times before reapplying is needed.)
Wow China finally figured out why they call it a crate motor 😅
Watch out America 🤣
Yeah.."😂😅
Nice crate, shame about the motor!
@@nolansprojects2840
Fr, we do.😂
The kids in those factory’s can’t do everything
Sometimes not even a factory. Could just be put together in the dirt. With no shirt or shoes to wear.
@@michaelhoneycutt7138 you're ignorant lol. Are we talking about the same China? You must not know anything from the last 10 years
@Prosper_Dean I don't recon I would down right call anyone ignorant, I have watched a few UA-cam Videos of them making tennis balls and such. Setting in the dirt under some little hut making tennis balls. They looked like the same ones you would get from a sporting goods store. I don't know?. What I seen.
@@michaelhoneycutt7138you're right and I apologize, brother 👍 there is a lot of misunderstanding and disinformation regarding China and I get so tired of it the way it makes my compatriots perceive the country at a time when our government is posturing for war with said country. My fault for being rude and I hope you have a nice day.
Those Uyghurs and political prisoners really care about doing wonders in manufacturing!
He’s more impressed with the plywood crate and styrofoam than the actual engine 😂😂😂
that pfp lmao
Lol
@@TimSlee1 just a broom 🧹 chilling on a wall 😅
@@the-real-qbanz Your mom is just a broom chilling on a wall
@@the-real-qbanz 😂
China really stepped up thier game ommiting parts and forgetting build steps.
You should see those Mexican Honda welds
Really stepping up their game by packaging them so good the crank comes through the box and not to mention leaving things loose and missing…
Just like like America did with their Boeing duct taped planes.
@@netwraith8215 speed tape is a FAA approved repair for panels that arent critical to flight. I dont expect you to know that.
@@darrengarcia4937 is that what they used on those Boeing airplanes? 🤣
Friend bought a small Chinese diesel tractor that came with a rebuild kit.lol!
Hey at least they were honest 😂
those Chinese are smarter than we give them credit for. That's why they're building freeways in the sky and other futuristic projects
they know the rate of failure of the stuff they sell and provide replacement parts to not have to bother with returns and warranties. a friend bought some big digital photonprinters a few years back and each machine came with at least 3 replacement for each part from rollers and PCBs to LEDs and they were still cheaper than japanese or french machines, including shipping. he still had to cannibalize four of those to have three working units after 7 years. all in all, it wasn't really worth it with the lifetime of the machine due to repair and maintenance downtime over the years and some parts are no longer available so the three will soon turn two or one working unit... 😑
@@chadfren
Yeah but people are stupid and can barely handle 2 dimensions when driving ,and they want to add a 3rd?
Actually,good idea!!!
...if they do it right ,and leave off the warning labels this could be helpful for the future.
All companies should do that 😊
Whaaaat!?
China slacking on build quality!?
Noooooo...
They build it to whatever quality americans will pay for. It's cheap because Americans are cheap.
I wish someone would copy it and make it here in the USA.
We invented diesel engine manufacturing….
@@jhansen6180"WE" who?
America allows the Chinese government to buy and own land in the U.S., how do you think it will go for us if we copy a well known Chinese engine design?
@jhansen6180
Rudold Deisel was American? 😂😂😂
Do it, man, DO IT!
The USPS saw that pretty box and said "hold my beer".
If only you could experience express freight from the inside! People want freight moved fast, and the volume is huge. Little time to move much freight equals some things getting banged up. Express freight needs to be prepared for the trip, but some companies do not want to spend the little extra to insure safe passage. Proper packaging is essential.
@@ronfullerton3162 seeing the cost of express freight that's quite funny. 🐷👆
@@kittytrail It costs for a reason. Demand for a fast delivery adds costs.
UPS guy with beer? Staying away from that driver. 😂
If you don't like it ship it with your own company. I'd rather just pack my stuff better myself.
"Looks like China is really stepping up their game" is a wild statement. Never thought I'd hear that.
Well... Only on the "packaging". Not on the "build quality". 😆
One thing I learned from owning a Chinese street legal dirt bike, is all the bolts are loose. Take them out, blue loctite, torque it down. If you don’t, it will rattle out and disappear lol.
Or you could just buy an American motor that will give you years of reliable service .
@@J0HN_3_16 You mean a Harley or Indian, neither of which make a dirt bike style dual sport like I mentioned I owned. The only bikes you can get like that under $6k are Japanese bikes. The only one you’re getting for under $2k is a Chinese clone of said Japanese bikes.
@@dkel4341 I've learned from experience a used American motor is far more reliable than anything new made in China.
@@J0HN_3_16 that’s irrelevant if they don’t even make the type of bike I wanted!
@@dkel4341That other guy might be restarted or something
I have bought 3 of these over the last couple years, I would suggest opening the crankcase before you start it and check the rod and main bolts. The first one I received had a rod bolt that wasn't even finger tight, there was a gap under the head.
I don't want to say this: our business buys parts from China, just like most manufacturers. Ten years ago, quality was questionable at best, but now it's better than anything being made in the USA. Don't underestimate our trade frenemies... at least on the finished parts we receive, China is delivering quality stuff. Not on everything, but that is the direction they are going. I believe that Americans have an incorrect or old idea of Chinese goods and the way they are being manufactured. My advice is to NOT DISMISS the Chinese because now they are also creating unique products, not just copying our designs. We need to step up our game, stay competitive, and reclaim our manufacturing dominance. This is from someone who hates that most of our goods come from China.
As long as they can out produce us at a much better price we will never bring manufacturing back. Companies don't want made in the US or to support American companies they want as cheap as possible so they can mark it up 400% and sell it to broke in debt Americans. Once China takes over as the super power we will be the ones making things for them and the rest of the world for pennies on the dollar.
Indeed, do not dismiss the Chinese, they play the long game and they play dirty and they are capable at manufacturing for less without the pesky EPA and OSHA regulations, not to mention subsidizing the "dumping" of their products on world markets to destroy their competition.
China of course is helping with the takedown of the US via it's toxic TikTok social media, which is intentionally designed as a weapon to destroy America's youth. There is a reason the Chinese are banned from using it.
For China made parts, you are paying for the QA/QC. And if ain't on the print it ain't the part. Some enginerds I worked with found that out when they didn't specify mil-spec on some anodized 6061 parts and just put "black anodize" before chamfering and deburring on the operations list.
They then complained when acetone dissolved the cheap anodize and the parts were deburred after they were dipped.
Good prints + good qa = good parts. Bad shops have bad qa (or none) and make parts. Especially of these rapid prototyping companies that outsource your sanitized prints, I made better parts on a Laguna knee mill with a p-vise and a Bison rotab than what Xometry would "rapid response" for us.
Machinists don't get paid enough, they want CNC operators to press buttons and every engineering team is trying to convince the bean counters to budget a cheap 5 axis they'll use once a year.
My heart goes out to every machinist on a mill or lathe because I know they aren't making enough,
Believe it or not they’re still an awful lot of manufacturing done in the US. You just don’t hear about it and think of where China was when Covid hit. I think we got most of our supplies from China. People forget they’re still communist and they’ve got one mission ,I’ll let you research that about politics. Have a good day.
there is so much crap from china it is so hard to find a true quality source. it is great for some things that don't need precision
A diesel go kart, that is just wild. I'd love to see it in action, I hate diesel but love the engines and their extreme versatility. I'd want to try and run one on vegetable oil or sunflower oil, kinda like what the old diesels were designed to run on
There are quite a few videos of my diesel kart on the channel. Yeah I know of one guy that was running one of these on vegetable oil but he had to heat it so it would flow well enough.
Its this new generation. Back in my day you could find a 12 yo Chinese willing to do quality work. Now days its constant complaining about the 12 hour day and always wanting water before their 15 minute lunch break.
They still give them lunch breaks?
back in my day we gave them 12 yo chinese some bread and a dime for 12 hours of laying track!
You can't really call them sweatshops anymore. I understand they have installed air conditioning.
That really is one high quality crate. Sheet I'd buy the crate. I didn't know they made little diesel engines. I'm bout it.
stepped up their game until you need a part for it. then it's buttsecks when you realize they want to sell you a whole new engine.
Thats why you buy 2, 1 to use and one for parts….works great unless the same thing fails multiple times 😂. Really though there is a parts manual with it and can get parts in about 5-6 days
The crankshaft is warped after it was dropped on the concrete floor🥃😎👌
Noise and sound stem of that can turn your souls into unrecognizable
No, they wouldn’t forget anything important🫣
The factory that makes these can do it so cheap because they are making sea drones to blow up our aircraft carriers.
True
Fortunately with the latest ship refits the CIWS system can depress its barrels to be able to hit drones much closer than before. Nothing is gonna make it thru a solid wall of tungsten rounds.
@@kaptainkaos1202 ... and how many rounds does it take to equal the cost of a sea drone... I fear the CIWS costs a lot more to operate...
This is so true and people just ignore it. They are not our friends. Don't buy their crap if at all possible.
When those aircraft carriers are in areas where they have no business being they are free game as far as I am concerned. Besides, whose not to say the navy didn't float that carrier all the way over there to get it get hit because they want a new carrier. It's only our tax dollars they're spending
These are amazing.
I've got a 10HP Chinese replica Launtop 🇨🇳
I've got both a 4HP and 10HP original Japanese Yanmar. 🇯🇵
All aircooled.
It’s just cardboard with aluminum foil around the edges. I really wouldn’t call that better packaging.
It's literally a thin wood crate within a cardboard box doofus.
Thats at least a type of plywood you can see the splinters where the hole punched through
Not cardboard, wtf you looking at.
9/10 the shaft punches through the packaging. I had to tear down and replace the block on a Honda 8hp that was shipped ground, just encased in foam. During shipping they dropped it right on the corner and it wouldn't hold oil. I learned a lot about small engines that day.
The 12 year olds who build and packaged this really need to step up their game 😮
That crank shaft snout should have been protected. Anything hitting it could screw up the rotating mass..check the main bearings for damage. 😳
I have a couple of those little engines. They're great.
I might have to eventually get one for my 22T log splitter!!
Mine have been reliable but they don’t make great power
It's always a good feeling when there's a hole in the side of the box from shipping.. Its doesn't there's damage but it makes you kind of nervous opening it!
I know! Both of them came with holes in the side and the first one I got had the flywheel caved in so bad it was hitting the flywheel and the engine would turn over at first.
@@jwsbackyard6413Express freight needs to be well packaged. The amount of freight, and the tight time schedule means that it may not be handles the way you may prefer.
For someone that has more Go-Karts than a child racing prodigy, you should know that flange was for a vent tube. It's probably in the zip tied nearby.
Yeah I knew it was a vent was just really rambling. Didn’t come with any tubing to go on it though. What’s interesting is the first one of these I got didn’t have that vent.
I buy aluminum fittings from China at $7, the exact USA made fitting is sold for $50.
If you know small engines. You know that hole. It’s always the crank.
I need this! Where to buy/what to search for?
eBay or Amazon, 196cc diesel engine
@@jwsbackyard6413 Thanks
Kind of looks like an old Honda design from the 70s.
Change the oil as soon as you can ,after that I bet she takes care of you ! Nice buy 👍
Seriously, there are some really good factories in China these days. Even some top notch product design. The problem is that there are also a ton of really terrible factories... So buying random Chinese imports is a crap shoot with pretty bad odds.
Every time someone buys something like that off of them they use the extra money to step up their military game.
Common China W
And there people still will be unwilling to stay in any fight. The problem is not funding the military stuff the problem is all Chinese are bred to be afraid to die. I've seen nothing, but Chinese fighters run from every single fight they have ever been in.
They also can't train their kids young as no one is allowed to own a gun other than military not even the cops have guns as they don't have to fear guns they just have electric batons.
I'm trying my best to buy only North American made items. It's tough, sometimes you have to buy stuff made in China because that's all there is.
@@DerelictDan69 I'd rather buy items made in Finland or in the EU.
@@DerelictDan69north America isn't the only optionb though. Pretty much all of China's neighbors besides N Korea and Russia are US partners or allies.
Try to get repair parts.
Easily available in the form of a spare engine, cheap enough to buy 2 just to have parts on hand. Buddy bought 2 for little yard toys and 2 for spare parts, tore one down and put the parts on a shelf and hept one whole for a back up but been running them for a year with no issues. If hadnt bought spares the two used would have likely scattered in a week😂…..yes and 75% of the bolts were not tight
Kinda had us in the first half.
Y e a h..... Imma need one of these... Please spill the deets!
You can get them on eBay or Amazon for around $200-240. They are reliable but don’t make great power.
Cheap on fuel, its said.
Man 200cc diesel, would love that in a bike, sure it would be sluggish but IMAGINE THE MPG
Yeah it’s been pretty good on fuel
There is two styles of those 196cc diesels. That one with the breather on top metal intake and injector on the side cover like that one are better quality in my opinion. They also come in a wood box and seem to maybe run a bit better?
Yeah I have the other red version as well. This one seems like it is better quality at least by appearance. Haven’t started this one up yet but the red one has been reliable over the years.
@@jwsbackyard6413 ya. I have both too. Have not run either yet. But in videos they seem to have a smoother idle and less missing. The build quality and shipping is definitely better on the orange and my first red came smashed and no compression. lol.
@@jwsbackyard6413 I think I want to put one on a mud motor.
That would be interesting. I’m thinking the red one was an older model because I’ve had some comment that their red version looks more like the orange one and came in a crate also.
@@jwsbackyard6413 oh. That would be neat. Personally like the red colour better.
The only game China stepped up is copping other companies products 😂 can't blame the kids that put these together.
Don’t buy Chinese, support America, buy American made!!!
We couldn't even keep Briggs & Stratton in the country. Now, they're owned by an investment company who solely contract with Chinese factories to make their engines.
😂😂😂
I don't know guys. I'm starting to think we might be Chinese
@@superspazmatic To the Chinese, American born Chinese are no better than the Uyghurs.
Where are your jocks and socks made. Try to find anything made in your country. It's nearly impossible to find anything made in Australia. The only thing China makes that last more than a month is Chinese worker's on Visa's. They import fucking thousands into Australia.
I wonder what country/ blueprints they stole for this one?
There great little engines !
Yeah they have been reliable
When they come with a manual which is rare in itself, they leave the fuel clamp loose so you can pimpe the pump. It has it in the instructions
Ah that makes sense. I didn’t read the manual
I'm impressed that it had the crank snout stabbed through the wooder crate and you were still impressed with the "quality" of that.......
They used to ship them in only a cardboard box with literally only a quarter inch of flat styrofoam on top and bottom. So this is a step up. People are talking it way too serious.
They have the capacity to produce quality products, but after getting good reviews from consumers about a particular product, they seem to cut corners around for the later batches.
Sneaky, hadn’t thought of that
Chinese manufacturing overall has improved significantly.
China is about 5000 years old. They have been making and improving the art of metallurgy, woodworking, etc...for centuries. They can make things of higher quality than you've ever seen with nothing but hand tools and sweat. It all comes down to cost. The reason we get cheap, low quality items from there is because that's what the companies that contract and buy from them bring over. They pay very low price...charge you high price.
@@brimoton my point is that advancements in precision manufacturing have improved the quality of even the cheap Chinese manufacturing.
Bought a motorcycle off amazon and riding down the road the bolts all loosened from vibration lol
Lord
Opens up the box.
Finds a kid.😮
That's a pretty looking engine
Yeah the orange looks nice compared to the red one I have
China Market research: Americans value first impressions more than build quality. Improve packaging with more foam and a wood box first to see if the perception of quality is enough. We will put reliability and build quality in the parking lot.
Im not defending some of the shady stuff China does nor the lack of quality in some of their products but the first one of these I bought has had zero issues for 3+ years of use. More reliable than any of the gas engines I use.
China stepping up their game 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they only gone do that with the AK's they send our way.....
If you bought it twice, it must have been good the first time.
Yeah the first has been reliable for 3+ years
Hey, those 8 year olds worked really hard on that!
Uighur labor
It's made from the finest Chinesesium available
Says China definately stepped their game up and next moment the crankshaft is broken off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks nice
I haven’t had in problems out of the first one I bought years ago. I originally bought one not expecting it to last but it’s been reliable.
Stepping up their game on packaging, but slacking on build quality. I wouldn't call that "stepping up their game". 😆
“They definitely stepped their game up. We got more styrofoam here”.
Yay! China
Stop buy that crap
aint paying $2000 for a kubota equivalent lol
@CharredSteak there isn't a Kubota equivalent. Kubota wouldn't build shit like that.
@@CharredSteakYou're sending money out of the country to save yourself a buck in the short term, and make some Chinaman rich, along with fueling their government regime a little more with that money. Millions of us doing this, hollowing out our economies to make China rich.
@@Qui-9The reality is the opposite. We are ripping them off by buying their products. They are paying incentives to make their products cheaper and more appealing to the western customers with their own tax money. They think they are developing a market for their own products overseas, but we won't buy their products once they cut the incentive and expect us to purchase their crap at the price we pay for some real brands.
@@Qui-9
Look at your phone. Its made in China....
Very few people understand how to properly pack & prepare for shipping. That Styrofoam is crap.
There's no link to the product in the description. I'm sure there are lots of yellow engines out there, which one is this?
I’m not advertising to sell the product so I don’t include links but they are all the same. Just find the cheapest seller and go with that one.
That hole is created by US custom inspector to ascertain the content doesn’t include illegal narcotic or weapon.
Really just looks like the crank came through the side. There are already two hole in the crate for handles that they could have went through.
Ivhad my mi d made up as soo as you said china, i know that i cant avoid all things from them but I'll never make a conscious decision to purchase anything from China.
Its all crap and i would never take a chance.
Your mindset is as mine is. And everybody else would just boycott those thieving bastards, nothing good can work out when you quit buying junk
Thanks for not firing it up. I’m sure nobody was waiting for that
The video isn’t about it running but there are many videos on my channel of them running
Stepped up there game,. Hope those connecting rod bolts r tight 😅 if i bought one id open it and check.
Sweat shop stepped up their game
Needs a full rebuild.
I’ve been running it a bit and it’s been doing fine
That looks like a crankcase breather just nees a puke tube.
Yeah it was just interesting because my older engine doesn’t have a vent there.
Sounds like they got to you .
Now they just need two more pieces of foam and packaging could be 100% safe to ship. That's not asking to much of a seller, if you want return customers.
Congratulations...you are a great merican
Appreciate it
Dude.. I need one of those.. gotta make something epic on 2 wheels.. or tracks...
The Chinese Yanmar clones are simply fantastic.
Who else figured it was the crank that stuck thru the side of the crate?😂👍🇨🇦
The noise of the styrofoam is worse than nails on a chalkboard
Box better than the engine
Just a reminder for you all... companies can make cheap, poor quality items in China. Some companies can also make *excellent* quality items at competitive prices, also in China. Xenophobia and fervent nationalism shouldn't overshadow reason and common sense. Grizzly machine tools are one example of a Chinese made item that's good quality and fairly priced. The higher tier items from Harbor Freight are also good examples of performance per dollar (or Peso for our Southern counterparts 😅)
"just put it ov r there in the ....field"😅
Giving money straight to an economic and military enemy for literal garbage.
It's cheaper and it works.
Everyone buys Chinese products.. They literally manufacture most of the worlds goods. Throw your phone in the bin and buy 100% American made one lol. Milwaukee tools made in China too.
@@A.E.Lanman777 there's a thing called "principals". You obviously don't have them.
@@hoobaguy when they (USA government) are taking half of our own earned money to give away and waste, giving billions to others while our own go homeless and hungry, supporting this pride which destroys, and feeding aborted babies to us? That's what you support are those your principles? It's all evil every way you look at it. Look at our ingredients list and compare it to the same product and brand from Europe, and see what I mean. America most definitely is not the good guys.... We murder more of our own children than the rest of the world combined.
@@hoobaguy what principles, America calls evil good and good evil. YT censored my first comment.
I bet there weapons are of the same quality
Their*
@@4-Horses are you a bot?
😂😂😂 let's hope so
You can't say that when our PSA AKs are so shitty that people are still after some eastern european metal sheets in 2024. Chinese norincos are near unobtanium.
SkippyvThis is your 2nd time buying from China. What are you trying to critique? Their shipping skills?
I bought one years ago and it was reliable. Needed another for a PowerWheels build so I bought another
I don't know how much experience you have with these Chinese engines, but I wouldn't use that gas tank. We had issues with them racing go-karts and they always leaked. So we we quit using them early in the game.
I got the first diesel engine about 3 years ago and I haven’t had any issues with the tank yet. I’ll keep an eye out.
Opened a Chinese generator and the first step in the instructions was how to open the box 🤨
The thumbnail looked like a gas tank mounted to an electric motor.
I'm disappointed.
XD. The quality you'll get out of that little engine will probably depend largely on how much you paid for it. The higher the price, the better, but remember it's still made in China, so it's best not to get your hopes too high.
I had originally bought one years ago no expecting much but it has turned out to be very reliable
Definitely not the first diesel power wheel.
Would like to hear it running
I have quite a few videos of it running on the channel
Calling that a crate is a bit of a stretch lol
Looks like China's really steppin up their game with this new engine......... looks like it's missing some parts. Here's your sign
Be nice! Those small kids are doing their best!
Diesel? I thought it ran on powdered tiger wang, gutter oil, and Live Leak videos.
Take the crankcase cover off the engine and inspect for metal shards and debris. The Chinese reuse the engine oil from engine to engine when they test run them and when they reuse the oil, it is not filtered like the United States does. I have found that if they have previously had a catastrophic failure, that contaminated oil will go into the next engine and while the next engine may not be affected by the contaminated oil, the oil will leave metal shards and debris behind in the good new test run engine. Do yourself a favor and purchase a new gasket and take the cover off of the crankcase and wash the inside of the engine out with mineral spirits and then refill with fresh oil. Also never use the oil that comes with any Chinese engine, unless it is sae rated. The Chinese use oils from things that would blow our minds if we knew what they were and I know some of what they are and I am not going into detail on here
Poor quality from Chinese products?? Oh stop it....that thing will last a good couple of weeks!
Ive actually had one for over 4 years and it’s been reliable
Yeah I suggest a complete disassembly and reassembly of the little guy!!!
You just might want to improve a few things internally before reassembly!!!
Just completely go through it like the amish do when they buy a new farm tractor or combine and go through it so not only do they get to know the critter but can improve any deficiencies they may run into!!!!
It could make it run for a very long time down through the years!!!!