5 MORE Pieces of Gear HATED by US WWII Soldiers
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Where do you get World War II uniforms?
hey do you reenact for the 502nd airborne out of minneapolis
As a kid in Boy Scouts, there was surplus WWII and Korean War equipment everywhere. As kids we thought it was cool because but when we put it to practical purpose, we bought civilian mountain climbing gear for long term use. The only thing we actually used was the mess kit/canteen.
With regard to the Helmet Chin Strap, in 1971, we were instructed to keep the helmet's chin strap attached behind the helmet. There were other ways using internal straps to keep the helmet on. But you still see photos from Vietnam of men dodging artillery and mortar fire holding on to their helmet. While jumping off the back of a 2 1/2 ton truck, my helmet flew off my head, did a 180 in front of me and chipped my tooth. That was while I was in Initial Entry Training in 1971.
Some reckoned if a grenade went off in front of you the chinstrap would break you’re neck lol , I would’ve thought if a grenade went off that close to you the chin strap would be the least of your worries 😂
@@spannaspinna that's a really big "it depends".
The air pressure shockwave that comes off an explosion can be as devastating as the explosion.
Because of the prevalence of IEDs it was a good idea to crack your bulletproof windows so the air pressure would have somewhere to go. That outweighed the risk of a random bullet making it through the crack.
Up armored Humvees could protect you well enough from a medium sized explosion. However, if the air pressure couldn't escape... Well neither would you.
Edit: I should add this only applies to being in humvee vs walking about.
Nice lie.
My dad was in Kuwait in the middle east and he hated all of his gear because 40+ pounds of gear in 100+ weather was not fun according to him
Just being in 100+ weather isn't a fun time.
The sand is irritating
Why go to Kuwait then ?
@@interman7715Op Desert Storm mate
Bet he didn't hate his rifle. And 40 pounds, is that a full load out? Seems like they'd have more crap. Actually now that I think about it by then the gear would be alot lighter, I still use a Vietnam Era LBE rig, I always forget about plastic being a thing.
I'll bet WW2 Soldiers would have hated MOPP gear if CC2 was so bad, in fact I had my dad try on a MOPP suit and he said he would have hated to wear that in combat but at least it went over a normal uniform so you could ditch it if you had to, my dad was a WW2, Korea 3 tour Vietnam vet, his first taste of combat was at the age of 17 on June 6th D-Day jumping in with the 82nd Airborne with the 501st PIR
Your Dad was a bad ass!
MOPP gear was probably the worst piece of equipment I ever wore while in the army, a literal nightmare
The haversack is pretty much just a bunch of flaps trying to imitate a bag. Somebody in a high position must’ve liked them, if they kept producing them.
The M1944 Field pack on the other hand is the ideal pack for US soldier as it had dividers, pockets, proper closing flap, rubber lining and as mentioned, straps to hold blankets/shelter half’s.
The "envelope" style goes all the way back to the revolution. After ww1 it was almost replaced by a rucksack very similar to the German and Bergan style, before the 1928 won out due to cost and yee old tradition.
@@wisconsinkraut3445 yup.... I'm a revolutionary war and civil war guy.... and it looks like a terrible, cheap version of the same thing being used since the late 1700's.
But there was that bag AND a haversack which hung around your shoulder and was easily accessable.
It sounds a lot like the shelter halves I was issued when I was in the Marines during the '90s. By that time lightweight nylon tents with flex poles were already a thing yet the Marine Corps was still issuing these heavy pup tents that were a pain to set up and whose design had to date back to at least WWI.
@@Riceball01 We were issued the whole M1944 Deuce gear setup (with single M14 mag pouches, along with M14 rifles) and canvas shelter halves at Marine Corps OCS in 1975. Semper Fi!
Josh, I found your comment about someone in a high position must've liked them, if they kep producing them interesting. But I counter with: did any of these people in high positions ever try one on?!?!? and on a real jump?!?!
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Dad hated the Firestone/ Goodyear Invasion Lifebelt known as the Donald Duck Belt. If improperly worn they would make a G.I. flip over upside down and drown with his feet in the air like a Duck. He also tested the Shark Repellent ( mostly ineffective.) Shelter Half’s were another item he despised.
in regard to the method of eliminating an enemy by grabbing his helmet and applying whatever method one sees fit, there are training manuals that expressly show just that method of sentry removal.
As of 2009, it was still in US Army manuals. I can't remember the actual name of it, but we called it the Soldier's Bible.
I have heard that the leg bags were issued to the American airborne right before Overlord, as noted in the video. Even as a Canadian airborne reenactor, we explain that the leg bags do not get the best rap. The Headquarters company of 1can para jumped into Normandy with the weapons sections carrying vickers mgs and 3in mortars in them. Those men were particularly unlucky as they ended up in flooded fields and were unable to get them off. I think it is also of note that the British style of jumping (Out of a slower, lower bomber) that may have also contributed to their success with DUKE airborne forces. Still a good video, interesting and entertaining as always
And then there was the Joint Forces U.S. / First Canadian “ Tweeny Gear” …
The British jumped mainly out of DC3/C47s as well, it is just that the RAF aircrew were properly trained and obeyed their training and flew at the correct height and speed for paratroopers, whereas the American aircrews did not and as a consequence murdered a lot of the troops they were supposed to deliver. ETA the bombers the Brits also used, like the Short Stirling, were either equivalent or faster than the C47/DC3.
You are completely right, I have heard a lot of stories about how well the RAF crews did, and certainly about the shortcomings of USAAF crews. 1can para got a chance to train in both styles of jumping, the initial group trained at Ft. Benning, and later groups at Camp Shilo, who both taught the American system, including a reserve chute. Suffice it to say some of the Canadians were not happy to be switching over to the British style once they were folded into 6th airborne. There were certainly a lot of factors that led to those drops going the way they did, certainly more than can be listed here.
@@claverhouse1Murdered! That is extreem! De difference is that the Brit X type parachute had a slower opening. The opening shock was thus lower as oposed to the T5 parachute. Because of the higher jump they also had more time to release the kitbag.
@@jimomaha7809 The US use of the leg bag has all the hallmarks of someone making a decision to use them at too late a stage for those actually using them to train with and properly evaluate them. It's notable that this video does point out the propensity of soldiers to over-fill the assault vests on an "if it fits, it goes" principle, and the same thing seems to have applied to overloading the leg bags, probably more than their original specification, but certainly too much for the different jump methods/parachutes used by US airborne. Simple advice of "don't put more than [X weight] in it" may well have prevented most of the issues, but there seems to be a lot of evidence that simply how to use the bag was not explained.
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Nobody would do that. We love Louis. The only people that dont are SJWs
@@Yourmomgoestocolledge would you trust him to be alone in a room with your wife or daughter?
@@justincase3230 Exactly
What?
@@cannotfindmyshoes3 the video guy made a joke about Louie CK, a comedian that was cancelled cause it came out that he was just whipping his dick out and cranking it in front of female comedians while they were alone together.
Then some other guy was trying to defend what Louie did but I guess he sobered up and deleted the shit he was drivelling.
Can you make items soldiers loved
The discharge card …..
He’ll make that video as soon as they make an item soldiers love.
@@DanielsPolitics1 the m1 garand…
They are lucky they have something called a helmet.
@@parkerheberlig817 Except for the "M1 Thumb" problem. But that was a rookie issue soo....
I knew an old para called Don who lived in Paignton 15 years ago. He was a working class man but one of nature's true gentlemen - soft spoken, dressed impeccably, always tipped. He was one of the first 100 British paratroop volunteers, but never dropped operationally. This was because in 1940 the RAF wanted to know if it was practicable to parachute into the sea with the Mae West life jacket already inflated. Don was the volunteer selected to test this. The impact drove the Mae West upwards with great force, damaged his neck seriously and knocked him unconscious. He was too badly injured to jump again, but his experience may have saved a lot of aircrew lives.
I was JUST watching the first one of these. I keep rewatching WWW content along with other reenactors
Funnily enough; the assault vest, or jacket, may have been unpopular in 1944/45, but it definitely made a resurgence in the 90’s with the British Army.
We exclusively used the Cop-Vest (close operations) which was exactly this item along with the Chest-Rig and Day-Sack.
Chest rigs were ammo pouches on a harness that was worn on the chest, anything else that was an operational requirement was carried in the ‘day-sack’ which is a haversack, or a type of small bergan, if you will.
The Chest-Rig, as it were, is a plate carrier without the ‘plate’, the CoP vest is now a ‘tactical’ kit-carry smock, and the Day-Sack is now a CamelBak mother-load …..
I’m just so surprised that this jerkin was in use then. I guess it wasn’t as popular then but the concept has definitely lived on.
As a side note; the way MACV-SOG operated with their kit in Vietnam is pretty much how all NATO forces operate today.
History repeats itself !
Sounds like it was the right piece of kit for the wrong time. Old, wool uniforms, wading ashore for an amphibious assault and this vest all add up to troops ditching the vest or forgoing it all together. 50 years later and it turns out to be the right gear for a different type of mission.
I wonder how many other items have the same history.
It started to make a comeback in the US around the mid-'90s too. Towards the end of my time in the US Marines, new joins were starting to be issued load bearing vests in place of what amounted to suspenders and a belt. The first version were made from solid nylon while later version had a mesh in place of the solid nylon. But both versions were pretty minimalistic and only had mag pouches on them and were pretty open overall.
Yes exactly my thoughts. The old "Ops Vest" looks very much like a modernised version of the WW2 Assault vest, and was a mainstay in the British Army during the 90s/00s. Great bit of kit.
We were still using the steel pot when I enlisted in '86. The chin strap was snug and the snap would come undone with about 15lbs of pressure on the helmet. I never used mine for heating water in the field, but I knew other soldiers who did. It wasn't that I used something else, I could just go for 2 or 3 weeks before you could tell I hadn't been shaving...
You had a gift. Are you of native American ancestry?
Absolutely no one asked.
My day has become instantly better because of this video
my night for me
Seeing gear that soldiers loved would be great, loving these types of vids
@World War Wisdom I second this idea
The Haversack was done in a manner to be adjustable based on gear opted to be carried. Kind of based on pack bags used with horses. But for people, bad idea. To small, not fast, hard to put together.
Also, the earlier version (the M1910) had a problem in that people well behind the lines back in the US before American involvement in WWI had decided what soldiers needed in the field, and so designed the M1910 around exactly that. The problem though was that soldiers in the trenches of WWI needed a lot more stuff, stuff that they had no way of carrying, and had very little way of protecting from the mud of the trenches.
The haversack was designed to carry bivouac gear from one bivouac site to another. And it does well in that context. The 44 and 45 packs weren't much better for combat. IMO the Army should just have adopted the musette bag for everybody along with the pack board. Instead of reserving musette for officers and Airborne.
My vietnam vet friends used very little equipment that was issued them. I used very little too in the Army late 80's. The sleeping bag and poncho was highly regarded.
Excellent vid! It's funny that the Brits, with wider brims on their helmets, didn't succumb to the same myth of the chinstrap being dangerous. Apparently, the bigger issue was getting Tommy Atkins to wear the thing at all, with berets or caps, GS being donned at the slightest opportunity, particularly by units with special ones...
Thank you! And that’s neat, I didn’t know that
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Some people don't wear safety belts in their cars due to rare instances where they impeded the chances of survival. That doesn't change the fact that wearing safety belts in general saves lives. In fact, I suffered a broken neck, back, and tibial plateau due to my failure to wear a safety belt. Additionally, if anyone would have been in my car on the passenger side, I would have been a rather large projectile that could have crushed them.
You also have to keep in mind that opinion is a big factor. My grandfather was a Combat Engineer in World War 2 and was at both Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge. Grandpa liked the Garand, but thought the BAR was the biggest POS in the entire war, could not understand why it was not belt fed (BTW Belgium had a couple hundred belt fed versions of the BAR pre-war) and preferred the assault version of the M1919, even though it was much heavier, because it had more sustained fire.
Then again, while he was shooting it out with the Germans on several occasions, his unit specialized in tank recovery and bridge laying, so they were always deploying off the back of trucks, so weight wasn't an issue. Infantry guys would have probably had strong disagreement with him about the BAR.
Assault jerkin. Something my friend has done a few time while traveling in a convoy.
The helmet thing lasted until the end of the Vietnam war, my grandpa who was a drill instructor told his men the same thing that was told to the ww2 and Korea men. So when he gave me his helmet, the straps were never used and kept in the back of his helmet. The only thing well used was the air cav back of the head strap to secure the helmet along with the strap.
my father and his post-Korea/early Cold War era DAV buddies confirm this…i called him on this and he had no response to the fact that concussion from the artillery barrage would have killed you before ripping your head off would
That head strap was NOT just an air cav thing, since we also used it in the infantry in Germany. 1/39th Infantry forever.
The jerkin joke surprised me.
I have a meeting in 10 minutes and have coffee spilled everywhere.
You do an incredible job bringing American military history to life. Thank you for your efforts and sacrifices to teach us.
I like the photo at about 5:27 of a soldier with his unit patch covered by the censors - but the obscuration is in a horizontal lozenge shape, so it's not hard to guess what unit it was!
Very cowardly to censor history
The British version of a haversack is a canvas bag that was worn over the shoulder so it was weird looking at the US one and hearing it referred as a haversack
As a Gunners Mate in the mid 1970s, I actually had to learn how to pack and hump an M1928 haversack. I still have the instructions in my GMG 3&2 manual
Like what was said in the demonstration of the leg bag, the GI's weren't given proper instruction on how to use the leg bag. They over loaded them with everything but the kitchen sink. They were only designed to hold about 35 pounds. I know from talking to vets from E Co 506th PIR they had at least twice as much weight in them. I also heard from 506th vets that when they were being issued the double buckle boots they would disguise their jump boots somehow to make them look like double buckles. Jump boots were the way that paratrooper were distinguished from regular troops and they weren't going to give them up.
As a mountain guide and packer I see the relationship between the haversack and what I use for work.
When I load gear or other stuff onto horses or mules you wrap it up in a canvas tarp or blanket and tie it onto the pack saddles.
It works In A form very similar to the haversack. Just instead of a saddle, it’s two carrying straps holding it o to your back.
Evolution of mindset and technology I suppose
it’s familiar because it’s literally the evolution of pack bags used by cavalry…only instead of horses and mules it’s the soldiers carrying them
Wild. I actually love using the assault vest. Of course that's also because I know what I'm doing when it comes to packing it out
5:37 He hit the cup and said "woAh" just as the school bell rang. Perfect timing.
The helmet thing, while not WWII related, there was a Marine story I recall of a guy getting his helmet hit and it damaging his neck, nearly killing him. He then after words had a turkey like neck. It was the guy that got released from California jail into Ireland, forget his name but remember the story.
Nice video world war wisdom
Also first
Something I find helps a Ton when packing the Haversack is to put everything I want to pack in a barracks bag or waterproof bag and then strap it into the Haversack
Pressure wave being caught by the helmet is the only thing i can possibly think that would happen. They actually do test for that on modern helmets.
You provide good content with historical references, thanks. When first saw the canteen cup so prominent, thought you would refer to the earlier versions having a fully rolled round edge that stayed too hot when drinking warm beverages as one would be apt to do in cold weather. The one shown is the updated version with just a beveled lip.
Much of the problem with the British leg-bags had nothing to do with the bag design, or indeed the training. Its failure was largely caused by US C47 pilots going too low, and dropping the troops at much higher airspeeds than they were designed for.
I love your historical knowledge. Keep it up
I think you hit on the origins of the packs. The design was to make a pack that looked nice and neat when marching around while training in garrison.
The fact that you had to speed up the footage of taking apart the haversack just shows how impractical it was 😂
Dude, epic office. Cuppa Joe from a canteen cup puts you way over the top. Well done, young squire, well done!
Great video!
Oh yeah next episode on the most liked equipment is a good idea, i'd love to hear about that :)
Congratulations. Your videos are amazing and historical accurates
Excellent video as always! You do such a great job keep it up!👍🏼🇺🇸
Nice video. Would love one about the stuff soldiers DID like!
In the Army's FM 21-150 Chapter 7 for Sentry Removal it is actually taught to break a sentry's neck with a helmet secured with a chin strap. That FM is dated 1992.
Also the same FM 21-150 dated 1954 chapter 5 'Silencing Sentries' shows a similar technique
Picked up an original 42 production haversack, someone had purchased it surplus and had stitched the side and bottom flaps together and removed the straps that close it on the horizontal axis all together.
Almost not a terrible pack at thay point
Your radio in the background looks just like my grandmothers which I lost in storage years ago. Might find another one someday. On the inside of the radio I had soldered a connection for plugging in a tape deck to the speaker.
This video was great, I always like hearing about what we didn't like as far as gear went in the past, because it really just lets people have an appreciation for what we use now, and why it works the way it does.
As for gear people DID like, could you do a Small Arms of U.S. Soldiers overview video? I know there are a few videos of each one individually, but an overall video comparing and contrasting the guns among their peers and the general reception of said weapons would be amazing.
Hey can you do a vid on the m1 carbine behind you pls ! I’m a big fan ! Greets from Belgium 🇧🇪
I lovd your channel man.
Former paratrooper and they improved things completely
Love your channel and great video
Maybe the haversack was to discourage looting 🤣🤣🤣
Great content !!!!!!!!
Is that the candy man Russell Stover? If so, that's amazing.
A cocked M-1 helmet with its chinstrap hanging- is so cool looking.
When we were issued the cavalier helmet back in 1985, our cool factor went down considerably 🤣🫡
Amazing video 😊
Idk if guys back then had laundry bags, but maybe stuffing all that crap that goes in the main compartment of the haversack in a laundry bag first then putting in there would work better...keep from loosing smaller items out of the bottom too. Great video!
Love your videos, please keep it up......
*angrily pounding my fork and knife on the table* I NEED MORE!
CT2 treated clothing was used up through the 1970s. General Quarters drills required certain individuals, like me, to wear coverall type garments that were soaked in that nastiness. They were stowed in a seabag in the repair locker. By the time we were all tucked and taped in the drill would be over. This was aboard USS Nimitz CVN 68 in 1978-1980.
Please do an updated collection video!!!!!!
8:02 i see that the US military has a longstanding tradition of making crappy things modular
I feel, like other armies, the idea of haversack was to have a buddy get stuff out for you vs taking it all off to get at it although the haversack design doesn't make that easy at least once you get away from the meat pouch, shovel or bayonet.
31:28: Yes please.
I have a 1945 combat and field pack that replaced the 1944 version and were used in the Korean war. I use it to carry my fishing gear. Both the combat and field pack were new old stock. It seemed like the military got the packs right by that time.
Battle vests - nice illustration of them depicted in Saving Private Ryan. Soldiers of the 3rd Canadian Div wore Commonwealth battle vests on D Day. I'm not sure if they all used them or just a selection.
I've often wondered about the packs used in Kelly's Heroes. They seem pretty unique to me.
We never wore our chinstrap when I was in 78-82. The only time we did was when we had to do a parade formation and do a pass in review for things like a change in command ceremony.
By The 1st Battle of Fallujah I quit blousing my boots, wearing my chin strap, and started wearing only white socks.
That haversack - only a desk warrior could've come up with that, that.......thing.....
I've always been curious about the leg bag
AWESOME VIDEO!
Seeing these makes certain I will never gripe about purses or underwire bras…ever.
best intro scenario ever
The water and the helmet part was for the marines when they were loading into their LVTS, if they slipped and fell off the cargo nets with a strapped helmet, it would do its damage to the wearer
If you dont mind, could you make a video on all the helmets you have? It'd be neat seeing all the ones you have
Good video
As a modern infantry soldier seeing a ww2 marching order makes my back feel nice a modern ruck is vary low end 60lb to 80-110lb depending on your position in the company
Even between my 1st year June 02 and July 03, no plates to being issued plates. That was a big jump. Ironically we weren't universally issued plates until after we got back from OIF-I. I think a week or 2 before we invaded each rifle platoon were issued a dozen size medium plates and as long as they were all issued out it was by choice. So, the LT and most of the NCO's. I was a boot SAW gunner and I was 5'11 117lbs so I wore a x-small flak that the plates wouldn't fit into. I was pissed when I did get plates. I was still a SAW gunner a much stronger one by that time but even before I back to Iraq I was stationed in 29 Palms which was just as hot. Spare barrel for my M-249. Never did a barrel change in combat or a live fire range and back then if you were a grunt with 7th Marines you were running the 400 series ranges every month. Hell we only BZOed 1 barrel. We taught it but we only did it when competing against each other. 7lbs of pointless.
The M41 pack was used alot by Marines during Vietnam, but I don't hear about it during WWII often. I'm curious if you'd ever feature it in a vid?
I just noticed your m1 carbine has a Bayonet lug woops! lol
finally another video😭🙏
Wow that haversack is BOOTY compared to the ones the marines used. Throughout the war it didnt really change until late when the roll top was introduced, it could be made to combine with the belt and suspenders or be its own separate bag, theyre super compact, even cute! 🥺
Given the complaints about it you’ve talked about, it seems if you coupled the M-1943 uniform with British pattern 37/44 webbing and given the M1 helmet the elastic Brodie chinstrap you’d probable have the most effective personal equipment of the war.
Do you happen to know if the leather chinstraps in question were the riveted models used on the early liners, such as the Hawley? It seems that might be somewhat more realistic to strangle a GI than the later detachable leather straps.
I'd love to see a video about what they loved
There is a picture floating around of an Ass-Jack around September and is cut down
11:24 Learning how to properly load your pack with all the 💩 on the packing list is truly an art form. After the gear inspection the night before a hump I would let my boots load their packs how they thought they were supposed to do it. Then I would have my fireteam put them on try moving around then show them mine and walk with it. Exact same load but feels 20lbs lighter. After I proved my point make them dump everything and show them how I did mine. When your 1st nav point is named Cardiac Ridge you can't have a jacked up pack. That's how platoons end up doing ruck runs when everyone else is on Libo, and you start bringing your gas mask on platoon PT.😢
Wow! great video
The US T5 parachute also had a faster and harder opening. Thus the US paratroopers would jump at a lower altitude. The harder opening shock probably helped more as the prop blast. (Unless they were flying too fast, what also happend.) As the British also the c47, prop blast was the same. The lower altitude also meant, if the bag was still on their legs, that they also had less time to lower them. The T5 also took more time to release, so during a waterlanding it was more dangerous.
The haversack sounds a lot like the double bag knapsack used during the American Civil War. A ton of civil war soldiers hated it too
it’s evolution of it…likely the next step up from that and itself the step up from what their patents and grandparents used in 1812 and 1775
There was a of hated gear in WWII to make moldable videos!!!
My father served in World War II, and was with 3rd Army in 1944-45. He told us once that he was personally, publicly told by a passing General George S. Patton himself to "put your GD helmet on your GD head and buckle your GD chin strap" on a roadside in eastern France. Being but a corporal, of course he complied.
I was most surprised by the M1 Helmet being on the list.
When I was with the Forrest Service I was given one of those heaver sacks. They sucked.
When I was in the Marines in 1974 thru 1978, we were taught to keep everything all of our 782 or "Deuce" gear (including pack, canteen, poncho, ammo pouch, etc.) unhooked and unbuttoned in case our AAV sunk or choppers went down into water. I always thought this was an EXCELLENT idea.
Canteen cup giving me ptsd triggers
I got to fleet just as the intercepter vest and molle gear was new issue fresh out the packaging. Some general never stopped to think that straight leg grunts wouldn't need to wear a MOLLE assault vest since we never went in the field without our flak jackets which had just as many slots as the vest. It wasn't until mid February 2003, a month before we invaded Iraq that someone realized that we could attach all our pouches to our flaks and not have to worry about the assault vest cutting into your neck or accidentally losing some pouch because you couldn't feel it directly attached to you. And I love this video. I got out in September 2005 and loss touch with my Marines, so I will be using this chance to do what grunts do best and bitch about every worthless piece of junk gear I was ever issued. Game on!