The Motte and Bailey Castle in Horsham, West Sussex.

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  • Who knew there was a Motte and Bailey Castle in Horsham in West Sussex. Not me, and I lived in Horsham as a boy.
    The lovely Julia and I pop along to a piece of wasteland in the North East of the town to discover the old Norman defence, where soon after the invasion of 1066 a timber stronghold would have stood.
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  • @andrewnorris1
    @andrewnorris1 4 роки тому +3

    I’m always amazed at how the landscape holds the memory of previous habitation and structures long after the place has been abandoned, this probably explains the deep connection we have with the countryside.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      If only more people had that deep connection with the landscape, then I think the world would be a better place.

    • @marvinc999
      @marvinc999 4 роки тому

      "this probably explains the deep connection we have with the countryside."
      An interesting observation. And ESPECIALLY true in England, I think - where practically every acre of land has a 'story' to tell.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum 4 роки тому +8

    It is relatively unknown in Horsham but I did a topic on Horsham history at school and found out about it when I was a kid. (I’d recommend trying to do a video at Horsham museum - it’s excellent.)
    When the a264 (bypass) was first built in 1990, the castle was easily seen - the following 30 years (!! - how is it 30?) have seen the trees grow right up obscuring the earthworks from the road.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      Hugh Braun discovered it from the train in 1935, so it must have been visible then.

  • @merietgenealogy
    @merietgenealogy 4 роки тому +7

    Horsham Castle was built by William de Braose in the late eleventh century and abandoned by 1157.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      So may have only lasted 60-80 years then?

    • @merietgenealogy
      @merietgenealogy 4 роки тому +1

      May have moved to a moated manor house.

    • @MrNas42
      @MrNas42 4 роки тому +1

      @@merietgenealogy The one immediately to the north of the site I guess.

    • @merietgenealogy
      @merietgenealogy 4 роки тому

      @@MrNas42 William was first Lord/Baron of Bramber, so Horsham would have been a secondary site. He died 1096, as son Philip was Lord - died 1134 on crusade, son William as 3rd Lord - a powerful family.

    • @sarahstrong7174
      @sarahstrong7174 3 роки тому

      That's the same chap who built the castle in Totnes in Devon. Would be interesting to do a comparison of his different castles.

  • @shirleyward2816
    @shirleyward2816 4 роки тому +4

    Really interesting Richard, never heard of this before.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      I bet there are other that lay undetected.

  • @digidooh
    @digidooh 4 роки тому +1

    I've been living in Horsham since 1980 and never heard of this place... I plan to explore this very soon. Thanks Richard

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      So pleased to have introduced you to it.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum 4 роки тому +4

    Here’s the historic ‘listing’ of the site:
    The monument includes the earthworks of a motte and bailey castle dating from the Norman period. The castle features a central mound, or motte, which has been raised up to 2.2m above the level of the surrounding land to form an originally circular summit which would usually have been the site of a wooden keep. Around the motte was dug a broad moat averaging 10m across, the western and southern arms of which are occupied by the present Chennells Brook, the eastern side surviving as a marked dry ditch. West of the motte is the bailey area, a quadrangular courtyard 75m long by 25m-55m wide, which is again defended by an outer ditch, in this case some 7m wide. The whole area would originally have been surrounded by water channelled from the stream. On the south side of the bailey ditch is a causeway which may represent the original entrance to the castle. In addition to these earthworks, the former stream channel, which was altered when the castle was constructed, survives on the northern, western and southern sides. The former stream was incorporated into the castle design by creating a marshy area for additional defence. The castle was approached by a causeway from the dry ground to the south. The present course of the Chennells Brook dates from after the castle's abandonment and crosses the earthworks in several places, including the approach causeway at the southern edge of the castle area. The motte has also been altered to its present kidney-shaped summit as a result of erosion by the stream. All fences in the area of the monument are excluded from scheduling, allthough the ground beneath is included.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      It is a shame there are no signs or boards to promote/explain the castle's existance.

    • @MrGreatplum
      @MrGreatplum 4 роки тому

      Richard Vobes - I know, that’s very odd!

    • @MrNas42
      @MrNas42 4 роки тому

      @@MrGreatplum I'm curious as to how a 2.2 metre high mote could have been viewed from a train 500 metres away! Also I've found pictures of a good information board that is located somewhere on the site. I've uploaded it to the Bald Explorer Group Facebook page.

    • @MrGreatplum
      @MrGreatplum 4 роки тому +1

      Nigel Sadler - it’s much closer than that to the main road

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      We didn't see any boards near the entrance gate or dotted about - but could have missed it I suppose.

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 4 роки тому

    I missed this one . Great stuff.

  • @suzyq7284
    @suzyq7284 4 роки тому

    Hi you two. The videos of cooking, Kevin and you two are my favourite...very cosy and easy and comforting to watch.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      Great stuff - I am so pleased you enjoy them.

  • @Red_____________
    @Red_____________ 4 роки тому +2

    Beautiful walk 👍🏻

  • @robintripp8164
    @robintripp8164 2 роки тому

    I bet having to leave the heritage sight alone and build around it, must have really miffed the developer/boy builders. he he I'm so glad.

  • @DaveFord
    @DaveFord 4 роки тому +1

    Fascinating stuff. It would be a great area to test out your new drone!

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      Oh yes - I must get the thing up and running.

  • @georgetimperley8906
    @georgetimperley8906 4 роки тому

    Wow that was interesting, I never know that much about horsham, but i would g have guessed there was a mott and balily castle! They was a great video l. Well done 👍

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks , George. A good discovery for me.

  • @Mattriver7
    @Mattriver7 4 роки тому

    Now that's what I call proper exploring, absolutely fascinating.

  • @MrNas42
    @MrNas42 4 роки тому +2

    Exciting! I love your true 'exploring the unknown' (or at least not sure about!) videos. I wonder if it's been properly surveyed? I'll check out the LiDAR maps later. Another visit in deep winter when the vegetation will be less might help. Perhaps Marq English and his dowsing team could join you for your own survey? Your new drone could come into its own too.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      A drone shot of the site would be lovely - but no boards, no on site information. Very sad. People walk their dog and have no idea.

    • @MrNas42
      @MrNas42 4 роки тому

      @@RichardVobes apparently, there is a good info board somewhere on the site. See your BE FB page for a pic I've uploaded.

    • @dastardlydianne5657
      @dastardlydianne5657 4 роки тому +1

      Richard Vobes - yes, it would be great if Nigel could find out more. The function of these small motte and bailey castles was to facilitate domination of the Anglo-Saxon population with relatively few knights. As you said the Normans didn't come to settle and integrate. They came to rule, to tax and dominate. When trouble blew up the Knights could quickly re-enter the castle for safety.

  • @Stringtrees
    @Stringtrees 4 роки тому +2

    Blimey, a castle within less than a mile form my own little "castle".Who'd have thought?

  • @Gez-C
    @Gez-C 4 роки тому

    My other half lives in Horsham and never knew this my self ! Will have to visit here myself

  • @orange70383
    @orange70383 4 роки тому

    You talked the other day about playing by the creek and exploring about when you were a youngster, well I and every other kid I knew did likewise growing up in the late 60's ~ 70's here in the U.S. But I'll tell you it's been years since I've seen kids out playing like we used to, I guess they stay inside and play video games and such. I think they're missing out on making that connection you get when you're young and exploring, it gives you roots and so much more. It's a dam shame.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      You are so right - the connection with the landscape seems to be missing from a lot of people's lives.

  • @KitoTodd
    @KitoTodd 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome place!!! And I heard you mention as you were walking - an area that was a-heritage site💚 which I personally would love to see more natural places +ancient monuments listed on the world heritage site list!!!💚over here we have- world heritage site's but also have what's called the historical register list for ancient landscapes+structure's and it's great!!! Because once a place has been listed it can never be demolished or developed upon!!!

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      Let's hope they do build on these heritage sites,.

  • @bigupyourself
    @bigupyourself 4 роки тому

    There used to be a sign board explaining and illustrating how it would have looked. I suppose has been taken away.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      I believe it has been removed sadly.

  • @heppnerheppner4999
    @heppnerheppner4999 4 роки тому

    nice light and photo of trees and rocky stuff. I lament the noise of the world rushing bye.

  • @vestafairie
    @vestafairie 4 роки тому +1

    if i understand the history, motte and bailey castles were introduced by the French. when William the Conqueror conquered England, he divided up the land to loyal people. i would imagine some minor lord built the castle to lord it over the locals (pun intended) and keep them in line.
    thank you again, Richard, Julia, and Joseph!

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      That is pretty much what happened, yes.

  • @ab-iy5qq
    @ab-iy5qq 4 роки тому +2

    Brits: anti-clockwise. Americans: counter clockwise.

  • @richardordidge4945
    @richardordidge4945 4 роки тому

    Chennelsbrook Castle was built after the Norman Conquest as the northernmost of the chain of castles through the Rape of Bramber, comprising Bramber, Knepp, Sedgwick and Chennelsbrook by the de Braose family.
    The River Adur would have been a lot wider and navigable for shipping as far as Bramber in the 11th Century, and the chain of castles were not only a defence against invasion but also the hostile English landscape in the early days of the Norman Conquest.

  • @craigtyler731
    @craigtyler731 4 роки тому

    Found this on a map about 10 years ago and went and had a look round the site. As the video shows the mound the bailey sat on has largely disappeared.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      An interesting site to roam around.

  • @lindakane7771
    @lindakane7771 4 роки тому

    Lovely walk. No idea it existed but hate the sound of the ever present traffic
    I read it is thought it was built as a hunting lodge

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      How many hunting lodges do they need - I thought Knepp castle was one too! :)

  • @dr.leftfield9566
    @dr.leftfield9566 4 роки тому

    If it is a Norman construction it would be ordered by the de Braose family who fought with William 1st at Hastings.
    Horsham isn't listed in the doomsday survey as it formed a part of the de braose manor of Washington a few miles to the south.
    It is mentioned by the Saxons as it was a major marketplace. The de Braoses owned a huge chunk of this part of the weald he
    also built a fortification to protect Horsham from the southeast at Sedgewick. These fortifications are statements of intent to control
    and a place of refuge for Normans and their followers. It is a little known fact that Normans were being bumped off in regular fashion
    especially in forested areas throughout the time of early occupation so much so that William 1st instigated the laws that relate to
    Murdrum or Murder as we now call it.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому

      Oh I bet they were being bumped off. The Anglo-Saxon resistance at work - 'Are you listening carefully, I will say this only once'! :)

  • @WWIIUK
    @WWIIUK 4 роки тому +1

    The castle is Horsham only scheduled Monument in the town.

    • @RichardVobes
      @RichardVobes  4 роки тому +1

      Golly - it is amazing t think there is only one scheduled monument in Horsham - and yet there are no signs or interpretation boards.

    • @GTO2710
      @GTO2710 4 роки тому +2

      Wrong there is another castle just on the outskirts of Horsham near sedgewick which is a scheduled monument also

    • @WWIIUK
      @WWIIUK 4 роки тому

      @@GTO2710 is that Sedgwick Castle?

  • @Andyb2379
    @Andyb2379 4 роки тому

    Do love a medieval investigation