DEWALT FlexVolt DCS578 Blade Right Vs DCS577 Blade Left 7-1/4" Circular Saw In Power
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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The Blade left Vs blade right will continue for years, but we can shed some light on how much power difference the two saws have in the DEWALT FlexVolt line. In this test, we use the new FlexVolt 9.0 Ah battery and the old style to see if we feel a difference.
Came here for a comparison and I thank you for that. Tried to read the comment section to get a consensus about the 2 saws and all are comments about your hair. Strange how many people had to make a comment about it. Who tf cares what your hair style is, your video was on point and helped me make a decision between the two. I chose the dcs578 btw, seemed easier to use with one hand.
Primarily going to be Dewalt fans in here, who prefer the company of Men.
Not surprising they’re enamored with this dudes flowing mane instead of the power tools he’s reviewing.
I was confused about the hair, but everything is clear now lol, left side blade its a beast
It's a worm drive vs standard... Worm drive is the difference
@@John-771 It's a wormdrive style !
Amazing video thank you! What i find most impressive about this is you get all the power of a worm drive minus the size and weight! Arguments about blade left vs blade right aside, i will be grabbing the blade right to add to my blade left as some cuts are better cut using the other style. Its clear to me that the upgraded motor is worth it. Thanks again!
Glad you enjoyed it!
All saws use to be blade right. I wanted it with my new dewalt, its a power detect xr, because ive never had a blade left and never liked them. My previous saw was about 30y/o plus black and decker with no brake.
@@TheKellHammer Hell of an upgrade!
Great comparison! I’m partial to the left blade for ripping plywood. Keeps weight of tool on the wood and clear sight of the blade. But just cutting 2X lumber I like the sidewinder. Guess I’ll get both 🤷🏽♂️
The biggest difference between these two saws is very clear one si righthanded and the other is lefthanded saw 👍
i reckon both saws have the same motor, but maybe different electronics. i bought the worm drive style and was so dissapointed with the weight i had to use 2 hands, hence blocking my line of sight with my own arm...so i ended up swapping it over for the blade right which weighs only half the worm drive style saw weighs. so if you want to buy one of these saws dont rush, think which is best for you.
I just ordered the blade right. I work on roofs so I don't need the saw to weigh alot
I have both just got worm 2day! still don't like the blade right handle when the saw bed is raised up with the battery on back it's heavy and awkward. Is it that much heavier with battery centered in tool it's still lighter than skil mag77
I have a couple blade rights and a couple blade lefts. My blade lefts get used 80-90% more than the rights. I’m right handed so idk, I think it’s just the ability to see the cut without having to look over the saw that I love. Great review as always good sir!! Digging the hair🤟🏼🤟🏼
Right on
I have the small basic Dewalt 18v circular saw. I love it do all my osb, ply, MDF.. cuts with it. Bought the worm drive to have serious power whenever I need it
It's not a true comparison.
Your blade right is a standard handle where your left blade is a rear handled saw...
The rear handled saw makes you push forward more rather than downward so of course the left blade is going to cut faster
"By order of the Peaky Fookin Blinders"-Arthur Shelby That is a dang good show, its 1 of my favorites. That's real gangsters, the real original gangsters.
Great channel 👍🇺🇸....as I have said before, if your DIY stay with the 20v line of tools , it is not equal to the 60v line. As a professional framer, the 60v flexvolt tools are unmatched by any other line of tools by any brand. Builders need more power for LSL lumber ( stairs) PSL ( posts) and LVL engineered lumber for beams,rafters, ridges, hip and valley rafters, jack rafters...wet pressure treated stock...when cutting those types of materials, bevel cuts, compound bevel cuts that is when flexvolt tools out perform everything. Also 60v tools are made for those heavy heavy loads on the tool not 20v tools, especially daily use.
Ripping OSB ply and KD stock and cross cuts are what 20v (18v) tools are made for. Also use the 12ah flexvolt batteries on 60v tools, always, forget about the 9ah..big power draw tools , benefit from the largest batteries, for runtime and performance...,Saw blades make a huge difference. Dewalt blades suck, use. Diablo “ tracking point “ 24T thin kerf blades ...
The Blade right and blade left come with 9 Ah batts, so to make the masses happy, that is what we used.
WorkshopAddict I figured as much...Milwaukee does it right and sends the largest ah battery for each tool. That’s how it should be done..Dewalt cheaps out, it’s ridiculous. They often make their own products look bad because of the wrong batteries sent ( low ah) ,,like the lawn mower,which actually performs well, just needs 9ah or better with 12ah..never should of packaged 5ah with it, plus it gives you a couple batteries to get into flexvolt tools.
@@joeframer9642 i blame Dewalt on the mower as they label that as a 20-volt mower. If they sent it with the new 8.0 20 volt batteries, it would be better. Label it as a flexvolt if it needs two 12 Ah batts. With that said, I am ducking and covering my ass these days as comments can be harsh if little things don't match up, like the batteries that come with the tools. People need to get out a bit more.
WorkshopAddict lol, I hear ya..I’m not in any corner, my company runs three framing companies, per owners I buy one trailer all makita, one trailer all Milwaukee, my trailer has all flexvolt, so I get a good sense of cordless tools from those three..38 plus guys using them all day, you get a feel for what’s what. Milwaukee all day for plumbing and auto..I still like IR though...great channel Brian, you do a very good job with your reviews.
I do wish they’d do a combo kit with 12AH batteries
Thanks, These are the two saws I was looking to compare. Did a great job of explaining and demonstrating.
WTF......barbershop must still in lockdown😂
YES! So glad to have someone do this comparison and even better it was you. You’ve really settled into a groove since your earlier videos by the way, I love the bottom line real talk no fluff answers! What do you think about the weight difference specifically when choosing between them?
Blade left is lighter and has a rearward handle. Blade right is lighter and handle is more centered. Are you right handed? Most right handed people want a blade left so they can see the blade.
I actually just did a video comparison like this but between dcs391, dcs565, dcs577, dcs573 and dcs578. It was amazing to me that the dcs573 (flexvolt advantage) was able to keep up with the 578. The 577 is a beast but I almost never use it because it's so awkward. Now that the 573 and 578 are almost the same in power, I will probably retire it. I've always been a blade left guy just because of the size factor of the 6.5" but the 573/578 are really nice saws and definitely have their place in my tools.
Am I missing something here? How does the 573 have almost the same power as the 577?i watch a video on project farm channel of the milwaukee m18 fuel saw betting all them including the dewalt 573. But after watching over 20 other videos from other you tubers of the milwaukee m18 fuel vs the 577 the 577 destroys the milwaukee when it comes to cutting speed and power.
@@marcowens3522 everything ive seen has the 577/578 destroying the 573 and everything else.
The blade right it’s for left handed ! I tried it today 😂
Thanks for the video, it was something i wanted to know before buying one of the new saws
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw that hair! 😆👍
Did you miss the Ridgid Sub Compact video?
@@WorkshopAddict I think did, but I'll go check it out.
@@texasboy2005 Same hair
Isn’t it actually wormdrive vs sidewinder?
The Hair! Ha! Love it! I'm sure the kids got a kick out of it. I was like, damn, all the videos I've seen and never noticed that. I was getting ready to go back to other videos to see how you were hiding those beautiful locks.
I can't think of any situation that I'd need to rip that fast, so either saw with either battery would pretty much do just fine for anything I'd ever be using it for. And if battery life is important, though for most of us, it really isn't with multiple batteries in the stable, running a saw that hard will reduce runtime drastically. Not sure about the new cells they use in them, but ultra high amp draw like that will likely also reduce the longevity of most battery cells.
All that said, in a production environment, time is money. Run it until it drops, get another one, and keep cutting. Lather rinse repeat.
And that's something that doesn't get discussed as much as I guess it should be. Some folks will be so proud of their bargain tools and how much money they saved. That will not fly when production is king. I have learned over the years that "buy once, cry once or buy cheap and cry every time you use or break it" is a real thing. I get it for weekend warriors and home shops. But when your paycheck depends on production and reliability, it's sure is nice to have tools like these that can keep going and don't have to be babied. And those stalls are designed to ensure you can keep going by not ruining the tool, and thus increase your ability to make more money. When people ask why I buy the "expensive" tools I buy, I reply that it's cheaper to buy quality tools. On a decent size job a saw like this will pay for itself. It's all gravy after that. Another short winded reply from Mike....... Keep up the great work, Brian. Oh, Jeri Curl next time?
I am working on a new style, but the hair is not cooperating.
Anything works as long as it gets the job done!
Thanks Brian I enjoyed that it was impressive the Mrs says the hair looks good
I am not sure how people with long hair do it. All I do is end up with it in my mouth all the time.
I’ve always used a blade left (I’m right handed). Shopping for a new one, I don’t get how you can see your cuts well enough using a blade right
As a leftie who prefers using left hand blade, you look at the blade from the little slit from the other side it’s really nice actually
I hate blade right I can’t do it at all
I am a right handed carpenter/ builder ,been cutting accurately for over 30 years with blade right saws ,I use Makita and Dewalt because I can see both sides of blade easily. 99 percent of saws are blade right and meant for right handed people for too many reasons to list here .Big heavy ungainly left blade saws are only used are primarily used on West Coast for some bizarre reason.
Ive been a carpenter for 15 years and have always used blade right sidewinders here in Florida. Trying to use a blade left saw to me is like trying to write with my non dominant hand. I can do it but it feels extremely unnatural to me. Blade right saws have most of the shoe/weight towards me so it naturally lays flat on the stock I’m cutting. It’s hard to cut an inch off of a 2x4 with a blade left saw and make the cut perfectly 90 degrees because the weight of the saw and most of the shoe is hanging off the board you’re cutting. I could change the direction I’m standing in regard to the board but it still feels unnatural to me because I’ve been propping boards up the same way for so many years. Blade right saws all the way in my neck of the woods.
@@brandongouge not including rear handle saws, most other blade-left saws are 6.5", and are considerably smaller and lighter than 7.25". The M18 Fuel 7.25" is 9.1lbs, and M18 fuel 6.5"(left blade) is 6.8lbs. many brands don't even make a 7.25" Left hand sidewinder.
The benefits of the LH blade is that the blade is lined up with your handle, arm, and line of site. It feels like you're just pointing at the cut line as you saw through it.
Rear handle saws are great for cutting sheet goods. They just kinda glide forward in a straight line. They're also easier to make beveled cuts with.
Dewalt dcs 578 blade right is the best saw ever made .
Me and my dad just got the worm drive style 60v saw 3 weeks ago and it came with the saw, the regular fast carger, and the new 9ah battery not the old one weird huh
Not weird at all. if you bought the saw 3 years ago it came with the "old" battery, if you bought it 3 weeks ago it is likely going to be the "new" battery, based on how fast the dealer moves stock.
Hey have you tried a 12ah battery on it?
@@andrewk8636 no only 9ah thats our go to
Thanks Brian, I was wondering about the new 60v saw vs the 60v worm style saw. I'm still leaning toward the 60v worm style unless something better comes along when I go to buy one. Happy Spouse/happy house :-)
Choose the one that fits your cutting style, both are so close in power it does not matter.
Right circular saw is the standard in Texas for framing crews , I know they like worm-drive out west .Old school Makita circular saw right is the one for me even my left handed cousin. I know that they also make it left in the Makita as well.
I work in Australia and you never see blade left.
The blade right is suppose to have the same motor as the blade left saw now so they should be very comparable
isn't the gearing completely different?
Fusion2016 no..completely different
@@joeframer9642 have the same uwo output
@@FusionBoost2.0 not quite, the 578 has 2456 Units Watts Out (UWO) while the 577 is 2400 Max Watts Out (MWO). Different units of measure. UWO=total tool power, MWO=motor power
This guy put the blade on backwards in the introduction 😂😂😂
I have the blade right and really am not a fan. Probably getting the wom drive and the thicker shoe today
Answered all my questions perfect. Funny I was just texting you about this exact question between these exact two models and I happen to see you had a video addressing this exact question that made me an instant subscriber versus just a casual viewer. I still have a lingering question not so much on the difference between first GEN and second GEN batteries but the difference between tte 6,9,12 and the new 15. I understand they should last longer but I have a feeling if you put a 12 ah cutting and then use a 6ah I think you’d get more torque. ? Prove me wrong. As for the mullet? Nah. Keep is military short all the way around chief.
Isn't one of those saws a worm drive with a completely different powertrain? It seems like what side the blade was on would make no difference at all in the power or performance of the saw if that was the only difference. I believe you are comparing 2 different style saws. Worm drive saw will always have more torque and will always be heavier. Regardless of what side the blade is on. I do like your videos tho. I recently bought the DeWalt 20v flexvolt advantage saw but before I opened it, I watched your video. And I knew after watching 1 pass with each that I was returning the advantage and getting the King Daddy. So thank you for that.
Despite appearances, they are both direct drive saws. No gearing on the 577.
Good review, I’m kinda leaning towards the 576 but the other one is a monster
the new flexvolt 12amp battery same size/wh8 as 9amp wit lots moor output n runtime
Thank you for the video. I just want to suggest that reviews on motor strength are the least helpful of all. What matters is ease of use, reliability, adjustability and durability. Modern tools are no longer limited in power and so reviewing the amount of power a tool has is the single least important factor. I'm only mentioning this because men are obsessed with horsepower and all the saw reviews compare power and almost nothing else. Ha.
I love the hair. LOL. This is exactly the comparison I wanted!
Many thanks Brain it was fruitful 👍🏼
Loved your video. This may be a stupid ? but here it goes. Can I use the FlexVolt batteries on my 20v XR tools? Opps one more ?. Am I able to charge a FlexVolt battery on my "DCB 118 Fast Charger" Thx
Yes to both. FV batts help 20 volt tools out a bit with power by holding the voltage higher during load draws. all FV batts can charge on any 20 volt charger.
It's nice to see you loosen up and have some fun. Not that you normally seem uptight. You know what I mean...hopefully. lol
LOL. Yeah, i get it. I do not go out to try to be funny.
i like dust going to right side, but worm drive is definately more powerful i guess. should try cutting 8020 aluminum extrusion for power test.
Nice review. Can you test the batteries with a multimeter? I have both of the saws I use them for different jobs. But my favorite is always blade left. Thanks.
Yeag the left is easy to see the líne
Great companion, but which saw did you get your hair caught in quicker? Pt.2 soon?
This old vid erks me , I have the blade right since it came out , it's definitely more powerful than the blade left , the left saw cut out twice 🤔
Do they make that blade right in a blade left but not the worm drive version?
I like blade left for myself.
Yea its easy for cut easy to see the linea
Non of the two are prepared for/or comes with a guide rail?
Neither come with a guide rail but both have the prep to add one.
Keep rockin the hair brother you look like James Hetfield back those times.
Great video Bryan
Thank you
Cool video as always 😎😎
I'm more of a blade right guy, but in reality, you need both
Great review! Thanks! God Bless!
Great video, thank you!
How’s the runtime on the rear handle? And really the flex volt tools In general?
Runtimes can be short with the FlexVolt tools when using the 6Ah batteries. The 9 and 12Ah batteries have really extended the runtimes. You could work 4 hours on a jobsite pushing the rear handle through thick wood and charge the battery over lunch.
@@WorkshopAddict Well that would certainly be enough for me. Thanks
Worm drives are obsolete, I choose based on weight and the ergonomics over left or right blade.
Worm drives produce more torque and are superior when it comes to cutting concrete or heavier duty applications.. If youre cutting 2x4s who cares but worm drives are a better option in other cutting applications.
No need to cut concrete with a circular saw when there is better options. We regulary cut pressure treat beam stock with a non worm drive battery saw with no issues. Why lug extra weight around all day if you do not need to.
Its not a worm a drive. Jus worm drive style
Is it compatible with rail ?
Where’s that drone from the thumbnail?
Is the new flexvolt batteri morepowerfull or something ? I just got the new dcs578 and i dont see much difference from the dcs 575
Yes, it is able to put out more amps and allows the 578 to rip.
Nice demonstration saws are close the old battery vs new battery didn't seem much different good video brian @WorkshopAddict
Has the 2nd gen wormdrive style saw come out yet? Heard on another vid that something was coming but it has been awhile since
Not Yet
@@WorkshopAddict 10-4, thanks for the reply
What's the weight defiance on them? trying to one hand cut hanging off a ladder is a little hard for me with the wormdrive which I have
The blade right is extremely heavy as well. I ended up taking mine back and that was one of the reasons. It seems extremely well made, however I liked the weight and size of my old 6 1/2 blade saw.
Lol was so confused about the hair this is the second vid now with it you didn't address it last one so I thought I was going nuts but thank god you did lol.. but anyway I was in the market for a circular saw I was debating on which flex volt to get as an apprentice I've learned cutting on a left blade corded Skilsaw and I was leaning towards the left blade but just wasn't sure which had the better power looks like I'm gonna go left hand thanks for the vid
I am for the right blade
I’m right handed and use a left handed blade
Does the new 9 ah have 21700 cells vs the old 9 ah have 185650 cells. Let me know in the comments?
9's have had 20700's and the new one has 21700. I have not torn one down to see, but that is what we are being told.
WorkshopAddict true
@@WorkshopAddict the Sanyo A 20700 in those packs are no slouch since they are a true 30amp cell also but the Samsung 30T just dominated the market for use. Both were good enough for Tesla lol.
I have a Dewalt with my Blade on the Left side...
Blade left
Surprises me at the difference in handle angle between the two designs
The hair is intense bro 😅👏
Muy buena máquina
Cutting that fast can be HAIRY.
🤘🤘🤘😂
It’s a right handed dominant world I guess. You truly have to be left-handed to understand,all my saws are right handed. so if I use my left hand I have to lean over, And long rips on plywood are a pain, back in the day you didn’t have a choice, now you do. I heard rumors that Dewalt is working on a transgender saw it will be interesting to see where they put the blade 😅
Blade left for sure but screw the worm drive
What if you are left-hand.?
Whose 🚚 is that in the background?
I dont like left blades because they shoot all dust into you😂
But the left oneyou can see better the line
@@callan3319 Right handed carpenter here ,been doing accurate cuts with blade right saws for years, 99%of saws are blade right for too many reasons to list here.
@@interman7715 can you do a short video how can i cut 2x4x4inch
@@interman7715 That's not true. Milwaukee makes 3 main wood cutting circular saws: a 6.5" and 7.25" sidewinders, and 7.25" rear handle. 2 of those are left blade, 1 right. You use what you're use to, and what you learned to use. A lot of people use rear handle saws and left blade sidewinders. They line up the blade with your arm and line of sight.
Only flexvolt batteries i own are the 6.0ah if i pick up a 9.0ah or a 12ah i will get the new ones
12Ah don't fit in there, does it?
You have to wear the yellow and red and say hey brother
LOL. Who is that?
@@WorkshopAddict Hulk Hogan
@@loucifer323 Oh, that would be fun!
you keep talking about blade left and blade right but say nothing about how they are designed and built and operate differently
East coast carpenters like circular saws, us west coast carpenters like the worm drives.
In my opinion for a right handed person blade left is better... it's easier to see the cut. it is better balanced when cutting too. I wouldn't buy a saw with blade on right it feels wrong and hard to see cut. Be careful which you buy
Been framing and doing accurate cutting with exclusively blade right saws for 30 years,I am right handed . IMO blade left is some weird west Coast USA thing.
Are you ready for all the comments once you do get a haircut? xD
Does milwaukee make an M12 hair trimmer? LOL that would get some clicks I bet.
Anything like that would be cool.
Or Makita
Guiding line is what your use for guide. People who need to see "the blade" arent real woodworkers or have no knowledge of using a circular saw. The guide line gives you a chance at the most perfect straight cut
Stupid comment. I have both and they both have their places. You are the one showing lack of woodworking knowledge. Pull your head in chump.
lol arrogant
Real woodworkers line up the guide AND the blade when making the cut. I see guys with RH saws looking over the saw all the time to make sure it's on the mark before cutting. Don't pretend you don't do it too.
Great vid. I picked up the new flexvolt sidewinder last Friday and it's got plenty of power. I was interested in the power detect initially, but your comparison video made it a no brainier for me to wait til the new FV showed up locally.
Have u ever tried Diablos pruning recip-saw blades?
If so what'd u think of them
Yes and I like them. However, I do not find them much better than any other pruning blade, so I will only buy them if they are priced similarly.
@@WorkshopAddict i was meaning their carbide ones....
Have u tried them?
I find them almost too aggressive vs others in small limbs which causes a lot of jerking and vibration but in large timbers they are unmatched and last the longest
@@masoncoons9918 The Diablo carbide blades are good for cutting roots in the ground, since hitting dirt and rocks won't dull the blade. But as @WorkshopAddict pointed out, they really don't work better than a standard Fleam grind pruning blade. And actually, I think they are worse than a standard Fleam grind when used with a one-handed recip saw, since one-handed recips have a much shorter stroke length (the diablos only cut on the pull stroke, Fleam cuts on pull and push stroke).
What’s the battery number on the new 9AH?
Like model number? Same DCB609. They upgraded them to 21700 cells in 2018 (silver tabs on top of the battery) and upgraded the sticker on the battery to the "new" style in 2020.
Why dont you call them sidewinder vs worm drive seen as "blade right" (sidewinders) can have the blade on the right or left....
These terms come from the Skilsaw brand and none of these are a worm drive.
So why can’t they make a blade left like the blade right? I hate the blade right I can’t cut for shit like that. But the blade left is giant compared to the blade right.
it's a hairpiece. it depends which direction you going 🤔 left or right.
Dude you ripped you HORSES...!
They are so close in power
Once I was able to see the timer on each cut, I was surprised to see the blade right beat the blade left a few times.
I known how you feel brother my wife cut mine lol thanks Brian love the video
I was like when the hell did he get long hair! I went through the last few videos to see if I just missed it last time. Thanks for clearing that up!
Hope you enjoyed it!
so nobody said anything about his hand placement lol dang
578 look more powerfull
Great Dewalt Flexvolt Saw-Off. The DCS578 is almost just as powerful if not identical to the DCS577. As usual great everyday life video comparison. It’s a good thing your video is about tools cause you’ve caused a reaction in our part with « The Hair » LOL
You never showed us the times on a leaderboard but alright good video still but you just kept pushing the saw faster and faster and especially on the blade left. Like favoritism sucks in these videos because I'm figuring out which saw to buy not which one to favor
Watch your fingers....risk vs reward. Keep that left hand up on the handle.
What the hell do you have on your head??? I hate Blade Right Saws, I am a right hander. I do own a couple of Blade Right Saws just in case I have some cut that I have to make Left handed. Nothing sucks more than having to lean over the Saw to see what is going on. I used to Frame once upon a time.
Now that I've reached the end if the Video I have my answer about the Hair. Lol That scares ne though since I'm having to get ready to let my Wife cut my hair. Missed my hair cut appt tje qeek before Virginia shut down all the businesses liie that, and seriously regretting that. Really looking very Hippyish right now.
Are you 757? I am
I don't understand they speak too much voice speak. I am full deaf.
Which is better skilsaw DeWalt?
I like left saws but dewalt dont make small flexvolt ones