For most plywood and 2X I use the Dewalt 4.5” saw with the 1.7 powerstack. I prefer the lighter weight and with my shorter arms I can finish cross cuts on plywood easier. It’s got its quirks but I’m done using heavy saws where a lighter one will get the job done. Great video as usual!
The dcs571 atomic? I love that saw and with the blade selection it’s a versatile tool and it’s my go to that or the deep cut 18v mhpt 6.5” deep cut Is the power with the 1.7 PStack comparable to a 4 or a 5 ah battery I still haven’t gotten a pstack but I will 👌🏼
@@Jeff-rk8hq Yes it is the DCS571. Yes the 1.7ps is comparable to the 5.0. As you would expect, they do need to be charged more often. I have several. For bigger jobs I just switch out more often. I prefer the lighter weight.
I love the feel of the XGT saw best, but downer is that at least the one I have the 45 kerf is off, my Flex all the kerfs are spot on so I use that more now.
Well we still need to test the flex sidewinder with the 10.0 which I believe will not thermal because it was actually made to use the 10.0 that's what mine came with..
The battery doesn't overheated its the motor that will overheated happen to my couple time had to put the saw aside because she no longer want to cut , led flashing motor to hot its not a pro grade saw neither all the flex stuff are
Red is a disposable tool. All that power and speed to wear the internal down to shit. Dean Doherty has many videos addressing how shitty red is built internally.
lol the rear handle or worm gear circular saw in not the better framing saw necessarily. Most east coast framing crews do not use a worm drive, they use a sidewinder saw. This is a preference thing
I'm an east coast guy & always strongly preferred 120v worm drives to their 120v sidewinder counterparts. Line of sight, torque, and the subsequent near inability to experience kickback with occasional "bad form", as well as reach & tool longevity were why I preferred them & found their heavier weight an acceptable compromise. In my more recent experience, with brushless tools & 5ah+ batteries with a sharp thin kerf blade, I have somewhat lost my preference in favor of lighter & handier. I run a makita 36v rear handle which I love but usually grab one of two 6-1/2" blade left saws for handiness. (Res/light commercial remodel carpentry/decks e.t.c...not a full time framer) I also immediately noticed, while the rear handle battery saws cut very fast (faster than my 120v latest version mag77)...they torque stall comparatively often, especially if blade is side loaded, aggressively plunge cutting into nasty stuff doing demo e.t.c... She's a great saw, but behaves differently than a 120v worm drive, which is still my favorite saw to use in the shop or on site as a dedicated "cut guy". Blade right sidewinders are nice in that the plate/base are more often supported as the waste right piece falls. Milwaukee used to make a tilt lock 120v saw where you could adjust the angle of the handle relative to the base/plate. Always was surprised that wasn't more common on pro saws as I'd much prefer being close to 90° relative to the cut & is another reason I have preferred rear handle saws, the weight, torque, line of sight, and pushing a 90° handle have always been faster, & more accurate for me. Well...that was a whole bunch of rambling you never asked for, happy cutting pal.
@@Josh.1234 Yeah it's not often I see it. The 36v makita is a great saw and the only rear handle I ever see on site around here. Usually it's Milwaukee or Dewalt sidewinders, probably near 50/50 between 6-1/2" blade left & 7-1/4" blade right.
@@adamjames1375 I almost bought one, the top end DeWalt 60v but I just couldn't pull the trigger since I never used one. Sidewinder never went on the same sale so here I wait
@@Josh.1234 I'm running mostly Makita stuff & have a ton of 5ah batteries. I waited for it to go on sale at Home Depot for $299. The kit is (4) 5ah batteries, saw & a dual rapid charger. A decent bag & excellent framing blade too for whatever that's worth. The Dewalt looks awesome, and I've generally really liked all Dewalt circular saws, table saw & chopsaws...but I don't have any Dewalt battery stuff... and even if I did I'd probably be reluctant to buy big expensive 60v batteries solely for the saw, unless I had, or could justify other 60v tools. Alot of guys don't like (2) battery 36v Lxt Makita but I love it. Relatively cheap & quick charging 5 amp hour batteries is all I run & having a single battery type & size for nearly all my tools has been awesome. Hilti has a new one too that looks really awesome but through my experience & research I think the Makita on sale for $299 is the best deal. They run the sale at various retailers a few times a year, & they're usually on display at home depot. The build quality is excellent, she feels really smooth & handles like a custom katana. I'm admittedly a bit of a Makita Fanboy but the 36v is objectively outstanding, doubly so @299/kit.
The sad part of my 578 is the shoe isn’t square and is quite thin. Also not a real fan of the right side blade because I prefer to use my right hand to cut. Makes keeping my eye on the blade cutting difficult
@@OUTILSCLIPSQCfar from cheap I've had my 60v dewalt since release went through 2 milwaukee one's burnt them both up never had a problem with my 60v cuts way faster and 0 problems!
So regular 20v batteries will not work in this? I though they did on amazon it says they do DEWALT DCS573B does. I guess this is just a diffrent flex volt.
Thats flexvolt advantage. Its home depots version to compete against lowes power detection. A guy did a video on it and i believe the power detect dewalt from lowes with the xr batteries just barely outperformed 20v flexvolt advantage tools with felxvolt batteries
I ordered the gen 1 sidewinder and when it cam i realized it was a left handed saw so I returned it, and when I did so, I noticed the just released the gen 1 DSC577, and purchased it. That was 4+ years ago. It was really my very first quality purchase for my new construction business. I love this saw and have been nothing but impressed with it. I do like that the new model has a port for dust collection. Thats such an improvement, that it make me want to upgrade and sell my gen 1. I would get the dewalt miter saw too if it had 48 and 60 degree bevel and miters. Its going to cost me 400-500 extra buck for the makita. just saying. DeWalt... Are you listening?
We have the top handle Dewalt at work and I have never liked it. I framed for 21yrs... Always used a worm drive say... I still have my Worm... the rear handle is much more ergonomic.. and have more torques. The 577 is for carpenters and former carpenters... the 578 that's for Destroy it yourself. The Trigger safety can't be in a worse place... They need to move it to a thump release. This all comes down to personal preference.. mind you a worm saw... weight has major advantages for cutting truss or rafter tails sheathing
My 578 was a quarter inch of from the sight line , i fixed it by grinding one side n plastic shims on the other side , no quality control, there bout the profits only
WTF are you talking about ? You said the gen 1 DCS 575 was overhyped and overweight, it is well over a pound lighter than the Milwaukee fuel !!! I am a real carpenter and builder and have had a 575 for four years ,it is over 1800 watts and is still one of the most powerful saws available, most people say the 578 is hardly discernible from the 575 in power !
I know the 578 is more powerful, but I use both on a regular basis and don't notice much difference in use. The real problem with these saws is they have so much power that they support poor saw technique from new people who love to smoke my blades. haha
i have different brands of tools , some brands are better than others on a specific tool and that better brand may be worse on a different tool , the japaneese tool brands seem to be better quality , even though some are made in china , i bought a nikon lens for my camera over twenty years ago , i was so sad when i saw it was made in china
You have to realize that the DeWalt 60v saws are only using 2ah and 3ah batteries , you should use 2ah and 3ah batteries on the other saws and see what happens......👍🖖
It's funny watching you wormdrive guys cut wood. You understand that you don't have to blow all that dust into your pouch right? Are you aware that you can just cut in the opposite direction?
I love the feel of the XGT saw best, but downer is that at least the one I have the 45 kerf is off, my Flex all the kerfs are spot on so I use that more now.
I love my 578 flexvolt saw! Best saw ever made
Love all my 60V max power tools. The rear handle just has an over all combined feel and performance that I like. 🙂
Thank you for all the detail! This is video I was looking for!
My 578 is the best saw I've ever owned for power and the only one that was actually square to the shoe out of the box
For most plywood and 2X I use the Dewalt 4.5” saw with the 1.7 powerstack. I prefer the lighter weight and with my shorter arms I can finish cross cuts on plywood easier. It’s got its quirks but I’m done using heavy saws where a lighter one will get the job done. Great video as usual!
The dcs571 atomic? I love that saw and with the blade selection it’s a versatile tool and it’s my go to that or the deep cut 18v mhpt 6.5” deep cut Is the power with the 1.7 PStack comparable to a 4 or a 5 ah battery I still haven’t gotten a pstack but I will 👌🏼
@@Jeff-rk8hq Yes it is the DCS571. Yes the 1.7ps is comparable to the 5.0. As you would expect, they do need to be charged more often. I have several. For bigger jobs I just switch out more often. I prefer the lighter weight.
Bought DCS579 last year - best field saw that I ever had.
I love the feel of the XGT saw best, but downer is that at least the one I have the 45 kerf is off, my Flex all the kerfs are spot on so I use that more now.
Hmm that’s no bueno. Probably too late to get it exchanged
That's a badass flannel.
Great video
Well we still need to test the flex sidewinder with the 10.0 which I believe will not thermal because it was actually made to use the 10.0 that's what mine came with..
The battery doesn't overheated its the motor that will overheated happen to my couple time had to put the saw aside because she no longer want to cut , led flashing motor to hot its not a pro grade saw neither all the flex stuff are
Super awesome vids , n most informative, appreciate them 👍 drive by your shop on the way to hd
You didn't do the test performance of the 577??
Very Well done.
Thankyou.
The new Milwaukee 2834 sidewinder is now the new king of power n speed
Red is a disposable tool. All that power and speed to wear the internal down to shit. Dean Doherty has many videos addressing how shitty red is built internally.
lol the rear handle or worm gear circular saw in not the better framing saw necessarily. Most east coast framing crews do not use a worm drive, they use a sidewinder saw. This is a preference thing
I'm an east coast guy & always strongly preferred 120v worm drives to their 120v sidewinder counterparts.
Line of sight, torque, and the subsequent near inability to experience kickback with occasional "bad form", as well as reach & tool longevity were why I preferred them & found their heavier weight an acceptable compromise.
In my more recent experience, with brushless tools & 5ah+ batteries with a sharp thin kerf blade, I have somewhat lost my preference in favor of lighter & handier.
I run a makita 36v rear handle which I love but usually grab one of two 6-1/2" blade left saws for handiness. (Res/light commercial remodel carpentry/decks e.t.c...not a full time framer)
I also immediately noticed, while the rear handle battery saws cut very fast (faster than my 120v latest version mag77)...they torque stall comparatively often, especially if blade is side loaded, aggressively plunge cutting into nasty stuff doing demo e.t.c...
She's a great saw, but behaves differently than a 120v worm drive, which is still my favorite saw to use in the shop or on site as a dedicated "cut guy".
Blade right sidewinders are nice in that the plate/base are more often supported as the waste right piece falls.
Milwaukee used to make a tilt lock 120v saw where you could adjust the angle of the handle relative to the base/plate.
Always was surprised that wasn't more common on pro saws as I'd much prefer being close to 90° relative to the cut & is another reason I have preferred rear handle saws, the weight, torque, line of sight, and pushing a 90° handle have always been faster, & more accurate for me.
Well...that was a whole bunch of rambling you never asked for, happy cutting pal.
@@adamjames1375 good stuff, interesting to hear a east coast guy using one. Don't know if I have ever seen one on a site
@@Josh.1234
Yeah it's not often I see it.
The 36v makita is a great saw and the only rear handle I ever see on site around here.
Usually it's Milwaukee or Dewalt sidewinders, probably near 50/50 between 6-1/2" blade left & 7-1/4" blade right.
@@adamjames1375 I almost bought one, the top end DeWalt 60v but I just couldn't pull the trigger since I never used one. Sidewinder never went on the same sale so here I wait
@@Josh.1234
I'm running mostly Makita stuff & have a ton of 5ah batteries.
I waited for it to go on sale at Home Depot for $299.
The kit is (4) 5ah batteries, saw & a dual rapid charger. A decent bag & excellent framing blade too for whatever that's worth.
The Dewalt looks awesome, and I've generally really liked all Dewalt circular saws, table saw & chopsaws...but I don't have any Dewalt battery stuff... and even if I did I'd probably be reluctant to buy big expensive 60v batteries solely for the saw, unless I had, or could justify other 60v tools.
Alot of guys don't like (2) battery 36v Lxt Makita but I love it. Relatively cheap & quick charging 5 amp hour batteries is all I run & having a single battery type & size for nearly all my tools has been awesome.
Hilti has a new one too that looks really awesome but through my experience & research I think the Makita on sale for $299 is the best deal.
They run the sale at various retailers a few times a year, & they're usually on display at home depot.
The build quality is excellent, she feels really smooth & handles like a custom katana.
I'm admittedly a bit of a Makita Fanboy but the 36v is objectively outstanding, doubly so @299/kit.
What do you all use for a case? (577)
There is huge difference in performance in xgt plat between 4ah and 5ah with 8ah
We’ll have to test that
Do you use all the circular saws you review?
The sad part of my 578 is the shoe isn’t square and is quite thin. Also not a real fan of the right side blade because I prefer to use my right hand to cut. Makes keeping my eye on the blade cutting difficult
Already got 2 of this saw the blade was always misalign with the plate ive switch to milwaukee
Sounds like a common issue. They should fix that
@@4thewinak dewalt = cheap stuff
The wormdrive or the sidewinder? Which one did you buy 2 of?
@@acidforblood both
@@OUTILSCLIPSQCfar from cheap I've had my 60v dewalt since release went through 2 milwaukee one's burnt them both up never had a problem with my 60v cuts way faster and 0 problems!
So regular 20v batteries will not work in this? I though they did on amazon it says they do DEWALT DCS573B does. I guess this is just a diffrent flex volt.
Thats flexvolt advantage. Its home depots version to compete against lowes power detection. A guy did a video on it and i believe the power detect dewalt from lowes with the xr batteries just barely outperformed 20v flexvolt advantage tools with felxvolt batteries
I ordered the gen 1 sidewinder and when it cam i realized it was a left handed saw so I returned it, and when I did so, I noticed the just released the gen 1 DSC577, and purchased it. That was 4+ years ago. It was really my very first quality purchase for my new construction business. I love this saw and have been nothing but impressed with it. I do like that the new model has a port for dust collection. Thats such an improvement, that it make me want to upgrade and sell my gen 1. I would get the dewalt miter saw too if it had 48 and 60 degree bevel and miters. Its going to cost me 400-500 extra buck for the makita. just saying. DeWalt... Are you listening?
Blade right saws are for right handed people that's why 99% of saws are blade right . Not everybody wants to covered in and breathing in dust .
Recently saw a not to good vid of the not released yet , new Milwaukee rear handle they say 6300 rpm 🤔
We have the top handle Dewalt at work and I have never liked it. I framed for 21yrs... Always used a worm drive say... I still have my Worm... the rear handle is much more ergonomic.. and have more torques. The 577 is for carpenters and former carpenters... the 578 that's for Destroy it yourself. The Trigger safety can't be in a worse place... They need to move it to a thump release. This all comes down to personal preference.. mind you a worm saw... weight has major advantages for cutting truss or rafter tails sheathing
My 578 was a quarter inch of from the sight line , i fixed it by grinding one side n plastic shims on the other side , no quality control, there bout the profits only
WTF are you talking about ? You said the gen 1 DCS 575 was overhyped and overweight, it is well over a pound lighter than the Milwaukee fuel !!! I am a real carpenter and builder and have had a 575 for four years ,it is over 1800 watts and is still one of the most powerful saws available, most people say the 578 is hardly discernible from the 575 in power !
I know the 578 is more powerful, but I use both on a regular basis and don't notice much difference in use. The real problem with these saws is they have so much power that they support poor saw technique from new people who love to smoke my blades. haha
They both look brand new. I don't believe you have used them.
He's the softest looking carpenter I've ever seen .
i have different brands of tools , some brands are better than others on a specific tool and that better brand may be worse on a different tool , the japaneese tool brands seem to be better quality , even though some are made in china , i bought a nikon lens for my camera over twenty years ago , i was so sad when i saw it was made in china
You have to realize that the DeWalt 60v saws are only using 2ah and 3ah batteries , you should use 2ah and 3ah batteries on the other saws and see what happens......👍🖖
true.
My dcs578 100% has nunbers stamped onbthe shoe
Damn dewalt looks beefy.
Being a blind carpenter I'm highly offended by that comment
Lmaoo 🤣
left handed saw is a deal-breaker. The rest does not matter
It's funny watching you wormdrive guys cut wood.
You understand that you don't have to blow all that dust into your pouch right?
Are you aware that you can just cut in the opposite direction?
You only restes the sidewinder lol
I love the feel of the XGT saw best, but downer is that at least the one I have the 45 kerf is off, my Flex all the kerfs are spot on so I use that more now.