Marvel's Avengers Dev Responds To Backlash After Slowing Progression, Upsets Players Even More

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
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  • @YongYea
    @YongYea  3 роки тому +653

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  • @erickbeltran7338
    @erickbeltran7338 3 роки тому +3506

    Devs are doing great in this “How to lose the little fans you have left” speedrun

    • @Superbattheman1
      @Superbattheman1 3 роки тому +185

      They might even beat anthem for the world record 😂

    • @bloatedbehemoth1979
      @bloatedbehemoth1979 3 роки тому +48

      There definitely going head to head on this

    • @Kenny-Blankenship
      @Kenny-Blankenship 3 роки тому +16

      I gave them a pity upvote on reddit, hopefully YongYea will report on it later :^^)

    • @Mach-2-Fishbed
      @Mach-2-Fishbed 3 роки тому +33

      At this point, I'm sure the game has to hit a specific low before they can axe the game and the devs just want to push out the last few so they can just let it die.

    • @codygreene8783
      @codygreene8783 3 роки тому +8

      @@Superbattheman1 but this game doesn’t have anything to like, unlike Anthem did. Best dollar I ever spent.

  • @TheVideoGameManiac
    @TheVideoGameManiac 3 роки тому +2173

    This will piss off all 6 people that play Marvel's Avengers.

    • @maxilin3729
      @maxilin3729 3 роки тому +193

      5! I'm done with this shit now

    • @5552515
      @5552515 3 роки тому +97

      The only reason why they are still playing it is because they don't want to waste their Virgin Media, Five Gum, and Verizon, skins.

    • @chaserseven2886
      @chaserseven2886 3 роки тому +19

      Last video was 3 now its 6? Please decide on a number!

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 3 роки тому +7

      @@chaserseven2886 wtf?

    • @JustDavenThings
      @JustDavenThings 3 роки тому +47

      @@maxilin3729 4. I deleted it after the announcement.

  • @montagdex3289
    @montagdex3289 3 роки тому +300

    When Strange said that he looked at 14mil possibilities, this is one of them that won't work out. Lol

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal 3 роки тому +4

      This is actually one of them that's too horrifying even he doesn't want to talk about it.

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 3 роки тому +4

      @@ReigoVassal (you can tell because he isnt in it lol)

    • @Rekhan4242
      @Rekhan4242 3 роки тому +2

      @@NeutralGuyDoubleZero Dang, you went there! That's cold, well played.

  • @bear798
    @bear798 3 роки тому +293

    Next update:
    "We hear you. We're removing the hulk. We're also resetting everyone to level one."

    • @manuxx3543
      @manuxx3543 3 роки тому +23

      Would be fun to see a liveservice act totally eratic like that, because it's totally legal to it and fuck with players

    • @theodavis4832
      @theodavis4832 3 роки тому

      Hulk suck

    • @brakhai5605
      @brakhai5605 3 роки тому +10

      Backlash happens and devs are like: Hulk was too popular in our opinion, so we removed him so our players can enjoy other heroes more.
      The level one reset was just so everyone can process the removal of Hulk and get used to the game without him.

  • @datlobsterguy4652
    @datlobsterguy4652 3 роки тому +753

    “Hey we heard you’re still somehow having fun playing our game so we fixed that. You’re welcome.”

    • @VioletDeathRei
      @VioletDeathRei 3 роки тому +39

      Thank God, I was worried I might enjoy it for a second there.

    • @briesoldnose4161
      @briesoldnose4161 3 роки тому +10

      Could you add more pay walls for the true ending of the game, and game ending content that would be great, also loot boxes for everyone

    • @detroid_ntr4all675
      @detroid_ntr4all675 3 роки тому

      Overexaggerating clowns.

    • @BullsMahunny
      @BullsMahunny 3 роки тому +16

      Found the fanboy.

    • @ry1023.3
      @ry1023.3 3 роки тому +2

      I almost wanted to get this game so thank you for turning me away with this great update

  • @dallows3235
    @dallows3235 3 роки тому +1647

    Lol, when there’s actually more Avengers than actual players.

    • @ologhai8559
      @ologhai8559 3 роки тому +37

      👆😂😂😂

    • @oliverharvey637
      @oliverharvey637 3 роки тому +16

      Lol

    • @deeal5336
      @deeal5336 3 роки тому +35

      Ayye yo lmfaooo, take my upvote you filthy goblin.

    • @Murtaugh395
      @Murtaugh395 3 роки тому +30

      Take the 've' out of Avengers and you get the end result.
      "Angers"

    • @Mehrunes86
      @Mehrunes86 3 роки тому +3

      @@Murtaugh395 👍😂

  • @davidlazerz8564
    @davidlazerz8564 3 роки тому +196

    "The stockholders were confused and overwhelmed at how easy it was to level and the effect of that on their ability to turn the game into freemium pay to win in the future."

    • @blakedarryl
      @blakedarryl 3 роки тому +12

      Stockholders and CEO, "Why people no like the superpeople game?! You told us that Sergeant USA and Alumina Boy were popular?! Well when we want more momeny in market we drive up demand by making things harder to get...do that with this game. Make something harder to get and make the Black Countess have little to no clothes. Game people love that". ;)

    • @majiira
      @majiira 3 роки тому +1

      I think you're right on the nose with this. pretty sure it's the first step for microtransactions later on

  • @guyemu1211
    @guyemu1211 3 роки тому +423

    Just you wait, they'll start selling xp boosters to "fix" the issue they created.

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 3 роки тому +30

      That would be really shady. Here I was guessing they were trying to pad out their threadbare game with more grind because players were maxing out and dropping the game too fast.

    • @Chromwel-A
      @Chromwel-A 3 роки тому +29

      🆙 this is a legit prediction.

    • @BRUXXUS
      @BRUXXUS 3 роки тому

      Well....yeah.

    • @APunishedManNamed2
      @APunishedManNamed2 3 роки тому +17

      "Develop a problem, sell the solution"
      Tried & true tactic for AAA releases.

    • @victorzvyagin360
      @victorzvyagin360 3 роки тому

      Erm. False advertisement is actually a legal offence, iirc? They did say, if you remember-that there's gonna be no p2w mechanics? Well I definitely Do remember that. ^_^

  • @amharbinger
    @amharbinger 3 роки тому +1073

    "How do we make the game better, have more grinding." Facepalm

    • @damonlam9145
      @damonlam9145 3 роки тому +19

      yeah really like how many failures does it take to make these companies listen.

    • @jasonf7072
      @jasonf7072 3 роки тому +24

      I just don’t understand why they think doing the opposite of what the community says is wise... followed by doubling down on it after backlash 🤦‍♂️ Then they wonder why their player base has plummeted

    • @ilewdlolis939
      @ilewdlolis939 3 роки тому +11

      Not that grinding bad but this ain't a bloody RPG

    • @Herobrine20001
      @Herobrine20001 3 роки тому

      Totally unreleated but Thats a great profile pic

    • @omaririzarry2901
      @omaririzarry2901 3 роки тому +1

      They can save this by just adding time savers

  • @JAhz-um7gz
    @JAhz-um7gz 3 роки тому +448

    Avengers: "Damn, nothing. Maybe if I shoot the other foot I'll get money!"

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 роки тому +1

      I have a big... BIG... BIIIIGGGGG... muscles!!! HAHAHA!!! What did you think I was going for? That's so DIRTY of you! GAGAGAGA!!! I am the funniest UA-camr ever! Maybe that's the reason why I have TWO (!!!) HOT (!) GIRLFRIENDS. Thanks for being alive, dear ja

    • @TraustiGeir
      @TraustiGeir 3 роки тому +4

      @@AxxLAfriku The infamous AxxL strikes again.

    • @The.Nasty.
      @The.Nasty. 3 роки тому +8

      @@AxxLAfriku 7 years, 30k subs, repetitive boorish content...
      I enjoy laughing at your mediocrity more than your videos.

    • @stevemac6707
      @stevemac6707 3 роки тому +4

      @AxxL the funniest UA-camr ever eh? That's why you're advertising your pile of crap channel in a comments section. Oh ok, rightio... 🤦‍♂️

    • @VioletDeathRei
      @VioletDeathRei 3 роки тому +1

      There's your mistake you still have legs, maybe shoot those?

  • @SgtBuck01
    @SgtBuck01 3 роки тому +86

    "This may be confusing and overwhelming to new players."
    What new players?

  • @jaybeam1466
    @jaybeam1466 3 роки тому +60

    Players: "This game has no endgame content"
    Developers: "Let's slow down progression since there is no endgame content"

    • @savannahmorgan-george-mcco6760
      @savannahmorgan-george-mcco6760 3 роки тому +4

      Literally

    • @kin4386
      @kin4386 3 роки тому

      In most games that have bad endgame content, that would normally be a good thing, since the trip to get there would be more fun depending on how good the gameplay is. The problem with Avengers is that the trip itself is already fucking boring.

  • @Graavigala85
    @Graavigala85 3 роки тому +351

    "lets make it grindier to make it more fun"
    few months later:
    " oh look we are selling xp boosts to increase leveling speed!"

    • @sartnowelye3236
      @sartnowelye3236 3 роки тому +32

      of course they are creating the problem to sell you the solution down the road XD

    • @azraelswrd
      @azraelswrd 3 роки тому +16

      "time savers"

    • @meleemastermaa1449
      @meleemastermaa1449 3 роки тому +16

      """"Optional"""" xp boosts

    • @Kacza42
      @Kacza42 3 роки тому +1

      few months? do you really expect game to not be Anthem'd for that long?

    • @Graavigala85
      @Graavigala85 3 роки тому

      @@Kacza42 well just like the devs, I too think the players are stupid enough to play it that long

  • @darter9000
    @darter9000 3 роки тому +341

    “People with too much money can be confused by the choices they have. Our changes is to address that issue by siphoning away money from your bank accounts and paychecks. We’re sorry we weren’t originally clear with our cash grab.”

    • @seanc9520
      @seanc9520 3 роки тому +18

      They want to sell xp boosters, get it.

    • @Poopookachew1
      @Poopookachew1 3 роки тому +2

      It's amazing how much of this situation carries over into real life. "You don't know what to do with all of that wealth. Here, let us take it off your hands via a dozen tax regulations, and we'll hold onto it for you. In fact, let's flatten the average man's real wage increases over several decades while inflation increases. That should help you get that sense of pride and accomplishment much later on in life when thinking about buying a home, compared to earlier players who were simply overwhelmed with progressing too quickly with too much. Where's the fun in not being challenged with debt?"

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal 3 роки тому

      @SNEEDman [Formerly Chuck’s] not only you buddy.
      We all. Everyone. Now we understand and can relate to Squidward more than anything.
      Especially with annoying neighbor that always trespassing into your house.

  • @huntedx
    @huntedx 3 роки тому +216

    They’re kinda calling the average gamer stupid lowkey

    • @dorn0531
      @dorn0531 3 роки тому +38

      Nah this is “Game Journalist Difficulty” thinking. They forget that gamers are often much better at games than Kotaku writers

    • @huntedx
      @huntedx 3 роки тому +12

      @@dorn0531 tru shit

    • @AdrianBigyes
      @AdrianBigyes 3 роки тому

      Ha. Stupid Loki

    • @kanon951
      @kanon951 3 роки тому +2

      Whoever bought this game is pretty stupid though

    • @huntedx
      @huntedx 3 роки тому

      @@R3TR0J4N defending something when they know it’s shit and they know they could get something better is a mental illness

  • @Dutchfalco
    @Dutchfalco 3 роки тому +52

    As Xzibit would say: “Yo dawg, let’s put some grind in your grind, so you can grind while you grind!”

    • @IAmDaDumb1
      @IAmDaDumb1 3 роки тому +8

      This is an absolutely prehistoric meme

    • @yunioraguilar7289
      @yunioraguilar7289 3 роки тому +5

      @@IAmDaDumb1 and its amazing

    • @-ninjanOodlez
      @-ninjanOodlez 3 роки тому +7

      It's supposed to go like, "yo dawg. We heard you like grinding, so we added some grind in your grind so you can grind while you grind".

  • @TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle
    @TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle 3 роки тому +251

    “Confusing and overwhelming to new players”
    What new players? Seems like they should be doing everything they can to keep the 14 players they still have.

    • @labenvenci1584
      @labenvenci1584 3 роки тому +18

      You really have to have less then 100 braincells to find this "game" overwhelming or confusing.

    • @chincemagnet
      @chincemagnet 3 роки тому +3

      Thas right Boi

    • @shinkamui
      @shinkamui 3 роки тому +2

      hard agree. Solving the game pacing its something you have to do before it launches. The time for doing things to new players is not now.

    • @TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle
      @TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle 3 роки тому +1

      @@shinkamui The time for doing things for new players can be a little after launch, like Dice making Battlefront 2 an actual decent game with acceptable progression after the huge backlash.
      But a game that’s already been forgotten about by everyone outside of the handful of people who still play it, many months after launch? Yea, there ARE no new players at this point, literally all they have is the shrinking existing playerbase. The only hope for getting new players at this point in the game’s life would be to improve the game so much that the current players hype the improved game up and pull more new players in by word of mouth. Which is the total opposite of what they’ve done here, they’ve just accelerated its demise by alienating the only players they have left.

    • @shinkamui
      @shinkamui 3 роки тому +1

      @@TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle yeah there’s no shortcut. They have to get to work on actual content and stop meddling with things that pushes players away. Final fantasy xiv also released a huge patch with qol for new players, and that makes a lot of sense now that theres a lot of hype and people flooding in. But avengers here want to build the roof while the walls are just crumbling down

  • @lost_pantheon
    @lost_pantheon 3 роки тому +383

    "I can't hold all of these skill points, I'm overwhelmed!"
    - Nobody

    • @Fickji
      @Fickji 3 роки тому +18

      I tend to horde skill points in all games where skill points are available. So it makes it easier to decide later what to dump them in.

    • @rigobertorosenbaum9838
      @rigobertorosenbaum9838 3 роки тому +7

      I feel like this problem exists for a minority of players. But with so few people feeling this way I can see why this isn’t much of a problem to others. Lol

    • @Dracounguis
      @Dracounguis 3 роки тому +5

      You need to replace "Nobody", with "game journalists". 😉

    • @rigobertorosenbaum9838
      @rigobertorosenbaum9838 3 роки тому +2

      @@Dracounguis just trying to be more perceptive with there decision. I never said what I stated was correct. 🙃

    • @chomosuke0720
      @chomosuke0720 3 роки тому +8

      @Gold Star Gaming To be fair if you're still playing this trash I'd be questioning your intelligence

  • @artman40
    @artman40 3 роки тому +56

    Anthem, Avengers and Artifact: AAA games as a service in a nutshell.

    • @jonahcolombo4131
      @jonahcolombo4131 3 роки тому +2

      What’s anthem?.....

    • @user-pn4py6vr4n
      @user-pn4py6vr4n 3 роки тому +2

      @@jonahcolombo4131 It was that game that everyone unanimously groaned at when the announcement revealed it was actually a card game. Or was that the other one?

    • @jonahcolombo4131
      @jonahcolombo4131 3 роки тому

      @@user-pn4py6vr4n 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @zaynvarenshutain5279
      @zaynvarenshutain5279 3 роки тому +1

      @@jonahcolombo4131 anthem was biowares last nail in the coffin lmao

    • @yes8362
      @yes8362 3 роки тому +1

      @@user-pn4py6vr4n Artifact is the card one

  • @dvornyak
    @dvornyak 3 роки тому +61

    "We want each decision to invest in a skill or Heroic to be more meaningful."
    Why does it reads more like something I already heard from the past but from EA?
    "To provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes"

  • @ccrpalex2456
    @ccrpalex2456 3 роки тому +382

    Judge: Did you have to shoot the victim?
    Defendant: Well I didn't want to overwhelm him with stabbing.

    • @Bakanineinstein
      @Bakanineinstein 3 роки тому +11

      Fair enough... Have a nice day!

    • @matohibiki
      @matohibiki 3 роки тому +10

      That's thoughtful AND horrible.

    • @Bakanineinstein
      @Bakanineinstein 3 роки тому +4

      @@matohibiki As Robin Williams Genie once said to himself...
      Genie1: I'm Thor!
      Genie2: You're Thor?
      Genie1: Well it hurts...

  • @RT-oy7mu
    @RT-oy7mu 3 роки тому +605

    I'm calling it, they're doing this to sell booster packs down the line.

    • @duden7983
      @duden7983 3 роки тому +93

      Well, you need players to sell booster packs.

    • @baranugraha2562
      @baranugraha2562 3 роки тому +31

      "Punishing loyal playerbase because $$$,
      Surely they wont leave us when we choke them slowly"
      -Higher up, probaly

    • @omegaxtrigun
      @omegaxtrigun 3 роки тому +16

      If that is the reason, it’s an asinine one. It’s not like boosters would sell well. With their current player counts that wouldn’t even get over a thousand sales.
      And the xp change drives away new players with “oh sorry you didnt play before we nerfed xp. here buy some boosters to fix the problem we intentionally created”. So very little if any sales there.

    • @mollyanderson657
      @mollyanderson657 3 роки тому +6

      All these problems on a live game

    • @35shadowthehedgehog
      @35shadowthehedgehog 3 роки тому +4

      If they make it that far...

  • @louislam369
    @louislam369 3 роки тому +29

    So they are basically saying that they aren’t responsible for releasing not enough content but players are because they are playing their game too fast.

  • @ryanlorenzo5003
    @ryanlorenzo5003 3 роки тому +8

    "So what's the problem?" Quote sounds like "Do you guys not have phones?"

  • @wanicki3575
    @wanicki3575 3 роки тому +439

    “Your ability to crush enemies certainly does speed up at higher levels” Oh the horror can’t have players making a power fantasy out of playing the freakin hulk

    • @GeorgeMonet
      @GeorgeMonet 3 роки тому +45

      The HUlk is easily one of the weakest and most vulnerable characters in the game. He gets staggered, damaged and interupted by EVERYTHING while most enemies have non interruptible attacks, invincibility, etc. They took everything that should have gone to the Hulk and gave it to the mobs. Ms. Marvel has more durability than the freaking Hulk.

    • @wanicki3575
      @wanicki3575 3 роки тому +17

      @@GeorgeMonet that sounds pretty awful the games terrible reception was enough to prevent me from getting it for sure not that I ever planned to

    • @battlion507
      @battlion507 3 роки тому +21

      @@GeorgeMonet Hey, remember HULK: Ultimate Destruction?
      That version of the Hulk in game is superior than this lukewarm title.

    • @One_of_Many750
      @One_of_Many750 3 роки тому +5

      Sounds A Lot Like Destiny.

    • @bigirononmyhip3812
      @bigirononmyhip3812 3 роки тому +4

      @@battlion507 what u think of mcu hulk? Were u as disapointed as me?

  • @peshkybee7721
    @peshkybee7721 3 роки тому +272

    Game dev: "you're just too stupid to understand the genius of our dying game"

    • @tommyllama4558
      @tommyllama4558 3 роки тому +29

      thats what im thinking, like forcing us to sit down, and talking to us like children telling us whats good for us.

    • @baranugraha2562
      @baranugraha2562 3 роки тому +3

      Enjoy you genius game that's bleeding playerbase

  • @Egghead012
    @Egghead012 3 роки тому +24

    "too many skillpoints to review!"
    Grim Dawn:
    *too many what now*

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury 3 роки тому +30

    the problem is that people aren't BUYING leveling up from the perspective of the devs

  • @thewhatwhat12333
    @thewhatwhat12333 3 роки тому +464

    "confusing to newer players"
    yeah, newer players that you dont have lmao

    • @chickencurry420
      @chickencurry420 3 роки тому +14

      This type of move seems nore like they're specifically trying to avoid new players

    • @zeraora2607
      @zeraora2607 3 роки тому +4

      They are gonna go free to play any time...

    • @TheStargov
      @TheStargov 3 роки тому +6

      @@zeraora2607 before or after the game dies?

    • @KodmaniacX
      @KodmaniacX 3 роки тому +6

      @@TheStargov Too late for the before part.

    • @kentonbaird1723
      @kentonbaird1723 3 роки тому

      I came here to say exactly that.
      WHAT new players? Nobody wants to play this!

  • @zombehnashun
    @zombehnashun 3 роки тому +186

    Isn't it obvious? They want to sell you XP Boosters, and they can't do that if you level up at a decent pace.

    • @Xonarag
      @Xonarag 3 роки тому +7

      Well decent leveling speed wasn't a problem before either was it?

    • @zombehnashun
      @zombehnashun 3 роки тому +59

      @@Xonarag Exactly. It wasn't broken, so they broke it for you and expect you to pay them to fix it.

    • @XxLeatonSxX
      @XxLeatonSxX 3 роки тому +23

      @@zombehnashun this guy gets it

    • @thelegendaryklobb2879
      @thelegendaryklobb2879 3 роки тому +8

      It's funny and slightly endearing at this point how the devs really try to justify this change. Do they really believe people don't see through the PR bullshit? We're in 2021, well past beyond the "lootbox crisis". Gamers are more aware than ever of the AAA industry scam tactics.
      Speeding up the early stages of playthrough and slowing down the latter ones leads to the classical pacing strategy of mobile "free-to-pay" games. First the hookup that gets you hyped, the "honeymoon"stage. And when you're finally "engaged" the reality kicks in and you find yourself inmersed in the grind, willing to pay for shit that speeds it up like XP boosts, top-tier characters, gacha fuel or straight pay-to-win microtransactions.
      At least the game should go truly "free-to-pay" if they are implementing this shitty update.

    • @wallywest4727
      @wallywest4727 3 роки тому

      There isn't XP boosters, the only paid content is shitty overpriced cosmetics. I wouldn't be shocked if they added them but right now there's no boosters.

  • @Pitbulluss
    @Pitbulluss 3 роки тому +7

    Hall & Oates's song really fits this situation. "You're out of touch
    I'm out of time"

  • @knightfall5125
    @knightfall5125 3 роки тому +193

    “Welcome to the end of Marvel’s Avengers” is what Maestro should have said.

  • @Rawnblade13
    @Rawnblade13 3 роки тому +249

    It truly is strange that these companies WANT to lose millions of dollars.

    • @captaintoyota3171
      @captaintoyota3171 3 роки тому +23

      They do not understand their product just profits. Thats execs 4 you

    • @Nero7441
      @Nero7441 3 роки тому +27

      @@captaintoyota3171 I don't understand how this move is going to make the game more profitable. I foresee more players just leaving the game.

    • @current9300
      @current9300 3 роки тому +14

      The corporate suits are chasing those hundreds of millions they see successful service games like Fortnite and Apex Legends churning out. They think it's worth it to waste tens of millions in attempt to make it.

    • @Yanuu
      @Yanuu 3 роки тому +1

      @@BoyBlunder66 that’s a really good point

    • @doclouis4236
      @doclouis4236 3 роки тому +2

      @Raven Brown You forget that Disney is the epitome of "these companies".

  • @TheCivildecay
    @TheCivildecay 3 роки тому +12

    "If you run a marathon with these glass shards dipped socks on you feel even better when you finish!"

  • @BlindDevilNeko
    @BlindDevilNeko 3 роки тому +19

    mark my words, they will release leveling boosters in the cash shop

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 3 роки тому +137

    "yo I'm getting moves too fast"
    -no one E V E R

  • @UmbrellaGent
    @UmbrellaGent 3 роки тому +139

    I wouldn't be surprised if the devs just really wanted to kill this pathetic cash-grab and move on to their own projects .

    • @tedjomuljono3052
      @tedjomuljono3052 3 роки тому +11

      This is most likely their goal, to find an excuse to shut this down

    • @belyayevsfox4753
      @belyayevsfox4753 3 роки тому +3

      I could imagine Bioware devs doing the same for Anthem by doing the bare minimum work to not get fired

  • @kylexile87
    @kylexile87 3 роки тому +34

    You’re better off just going and playing any of the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games.

    • @IllusionistCard
      @IllusionistCard 3 роки тому

      Still got 2 on the PS3

    • @RokushoTheRavager
      @RokushoTheRavager 3 роки тому

      Honestly though

    • @galanakagalactus903
      @galanakagalactus903 3 роки тому

      @SmashStomp Inc But the first game has mods to make it look and run better.

    • @kin4386
      @kin4386 3 роки тому

      I've heard that the new one is actually fairly average and even THAT looks way more fun than Avengers.

  • @ShadowNova300
    @ShadowNova300 3 роки тому +4

    "How to kill a game, even more, speedrun any% flawless."

  • @BDrumev001
    @BDrumev001 3 роки тому +323

    "If we don't manufacture a problem, how can we sell you a solution?!? Don't you guys have wallets?"

  • @Fr33climb
    @Fr33climb 3 роки тому +270

    Crystal Dynamics is trying to kill this game so they can get out of this “Games as a Service” bullshit.
    Just look at every decision they have made with this game. Their first post character release was 1 day before Cyberpunk released.

    • @basharalassad1073
      @basharalassad1073 3 роки тому +42

      maybe they really are trying to kill it

    • @kelnhide
      @kelnhide 3 роки тому +24

      That's a nice theory

    • @jaku9730
      @jaku9730 3 роки тому +52

      Maybe they saw that Bioware is allowed to make a single player game after the Anthem disaster and thought "I want a little bit of that!"

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 3 роки тому +2

      I dont play this game. What's games as a service?

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 3 роки тому +4

      @John Eric so games as a service are games that are basically just microtransactions with nothing worth playing?

  • @FalcnPWNCH
    @FalcnPWNCH 3 роки тому +4

    They are just *willingly and fully knowingly purposely shooting themselves in the foot* - it's absolutely amazing

  • @HahnBB
    @HahnBB 3 роки тому +7

    I feel bad for the last 5 angry players left. I cant Imagine their pain...

  • @TheFlyingSailorYT
    @TheFlyingSailorYT 3 роки тому +107

    Pride and Accomplishment 2: Electric Boogaloo.

    • @thebenc1537
      @thebenc1537 3 роки тому +4

      Nobody gets a sense of accomplishment because of the amount of time something takes you to do. Overcoming struggle is what gives you a sense of accomplishmen. Just getting through a game simply because it takes too long? That should not be the struggle.

    • @TG-ge1oh
      @TG-ge1oh 3 роки тому +6

      Imagine Dark Souls doing this. You walk for 7 days in real time before encountering the first hostile entity.

  • @NuminorTheFool
    @NuminorTheFool 3 роки тому +141

    'Overwhelming for new players' - What new players? You keep giving more reasons for people not to pick up the game there won't be any new players!

  • @Jay-sl9jo
    @Jay-sl9jo 3 роки тому +3

    Yes getting skill points and leveling up at a normal pace is just SO confusing. It leaves me wondering, "Hey how did I get these skill points? Am I playing a game right now? What is life? Did I leave the stove on? I am so confused right now."

  • @Dracounguis
    @Dracounguis 3 роки тому +5

    Seeing his shirt... The first thought that came in my head was, 'Is that his Mom on the shirt?'

  • @TommasoFirmini
    @TommasoFirmini 3 роки тому +114

    "Lets give less awards so you feel more rewarded"

    • @Kyugorn
      @Kyugorn 3 роки тому +3

      "Am I a joke to you?" - Some person somewhere at some time that has always LOVED unlocking all the skills they want faster than slower.
      "Oh no! Not at all! Just a walking piggy bank. Don't waste time breaking now~!" - corporate

    • @Saieras
      @Saieras 3 роки тому

      OSRS players: "Well they're not wrong..."

    • @WR-nx9hb
      @WR-nx9hb 3 роки тому +1

      They going to slow down the progression then they going to add micro transactions to level up faster

    • @TommasoFirmini
      @TommasoFirmini 3 роки тому

      @@WR-nx9hb no, they're putting the final nail in their own coffin lol😂

  • @Sperith0703
    @Sperith0703 3 роки тому +68

    I'm really digging this bold assumption that they have "new players" to even cater to. That's the sort of confidence in yourself that turns people's heads.

    • @baranugraha2562
      @baranugraha2562 3 роки тому +1

      Ikr, what are doing rn is punishing their loyal playerbase (the community)

    • @inakimendiberri2226
      @inakimendiberri2226 3 роки тому +6

      Not to mention this wouldn't even sound attractive to new players. "Hey, start playing our game. We just made it so you have less toys to play with right away and put more mind numming repetition in there because we think you're a bumbling moron who cannot read what 2 new skills do every so often. Ain't this really attractive?"

    • @AngryGerbils
      @AngryGerbils 3 роки тому +3

      It's definitely turning the game's head... all the way around, complete with a sickening crack.

    • @brokengood3621
      @brokengood3621 3 роки тому +1

      Bwaha - i like your style OP

    • @ghostman76015
      @ghostman76015 3 роки тому +1

      after all this I wouldn't play it if it was free. Grinding for nothing isnt a hobby of mine.

  • @tolgayatamturk2304
    @tolgayatamturk2304 3 роки тому +13

    I just love how this licensed cash grab is going down.

  • @Uppercut4896
    @Uppercut4896 3 роки тому +7

    They manage to kill The Avengers faster than any villain can

  • @tobiasblack1749
    @tobiasblack1749 3 роки тому +338

    The real breaking news: Marvel Avengers has players.

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master 3 роки тому +5

      I mean there are fans of Marvel and the heroes that exist outside the MCU so no reason to think no one plays it

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 3 роки тому +2

      @@Troupe_Master what?

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master 3 роки тому +2

      @@alexknight81 im sorry your illiterate I cant do anything to help you

    • @muiyamcha6296
      @muiyamcha6296 3 роки тому +4

      @@Troupe_Master i mean all 10bplayers that are left will move over to dc at this rate

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 3 роки тому +9

      @@Troupe_Master wow thanks for being an asshole mate, cheers

  • @MistaLister
    @MistaLister 3 роки тому +57

    "We think levelling up is confusing for newer players, so we're going to increase XP needed to level up AFTER level 25"
    This is about as stupid as EA's "rewarding the grind" bullshit.

  • @johnnyzero8853
    @johnnyzero8853 3 роки тому +6

    “tHiS GaMe iS GoNnA DoMinAtE mY LiFE”
    - Greg Miller

  • @trexyman
    @trexyman 3 роки тому +3

    Next update: we’ve add a xp boost that cost money.

  • @Magnasword2
    @Magnasword2 3 роки тому +77

    Leveling becomes slow, 2 months later: Level up microtransaction boosts appear.

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 3 роки тому +2

      Yep

    • @airinghouse
      @airinghouse 3 роки тому

      yeah, wouldn't be surprised if this becomes F2P to boost its playerbase and they're just preparing for the freemium model.

  • @iamthewerebear4837
    @iamthewerebear4837 3 роки тому +411

    They have to be doing this shit on purpose at this point.

    • @stoffelthedestroyer3741
      @stoffelthedestroyer3741 3 роки тому +29

      true,
      but what is the motive?
      I studied business and I am breaking my head trying to figure out the profit from all of this..

    • @ghost245353
      @ghost245353 3 роки тому +85

      @@stoffelthedestroyer3741 The developers probably want to quit but can't

    • @skyuru
      @skyuru 3 роки тому

      It looks like Capcom: they give but dont give what the fanbase want lol

    • @superdewott3209
      @superdewott3209 3 роки тому

      Could be they legit are trying, it's just not working

    • @nova8747
      @nova8747 3 роки тому +33

      @@ghost245353 Sounds like the most plausable explanation.
      Dev's want to kill this shitheap off quickly so they can start working on a more fun project.
      They most likely can't simply quit due to contractual obligations, so they're forced to kill it off.

  • @coldchilln1988
    @coldchilln1988 3 роки тому +8

    Upcoming video: "Marvel Avengers Next Cancelled"

  • @marblemew
    @marblemew 3 роки тому

    7:00
    No matter how many times I re-read it, I can't make sense of the abstract wording in the advert on the right .

  • @housslight641
    @housslight641 3 роки тому +43

    '' I'm so overwhelmed by the number of skills my character has and i want this to stop'' Said no gamer ever

  • @jhosioja
    @jhosioja 3 роки тому +36

    Single skillpoints feeling meaningful is actually a valid approach... when you have a well structured single player game that isn't supposed to be grindy.

  • @Turian_Hustle
    @Turian_Hustle 3 роки тому

    Right on.

  • @Weird_guy79
    @Weird_guy79 3 роки тому

    Damn I was thinking about getting back to this game.

  • @eleanorgreywolfe5142
    @eleanorgreywolfe5142 3 роки тому +31

    "Why are we losing players?, ah it must be because players are levelling too fast and it's confusing their small brains"

    • @labenvenci1584
      @labenvenci1584 3 роки тому +3

      Worst part is that their insulting their players as unintelligent or down right moronic without saying it directly.

  • @vtv201
    @vtv201 3 роки тому +137

    slowing down levelling says 3 words to me, free. to. play.

    • @evanmaguire2688
      @evanmaguire2688 3 роки тому +2

      Oh no.

    • @lucariopokemon13
      @lucariopokemon13 3 роки тому +2

      Oh god!

    • @guansuo448
      @guansuo448 3 роки тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @dpray96
      @dpray96 3 роки тому +9

      It says different words to me, Selling Experience Boosters.

    • @janoliver7436
      @janoliver7436 3 роки тому +5

      This shit will likely be free to play by 2022

  • @nathanking2955
    @nathanking2955 3 роки тому +8

    Personally I felt the leveling was already too slow.

  • @ThatMocapGuy
    @ThatMocapGuy 3 роки тому

    Man, I'd love to pick your brain on some industry things XD You're spot on ALL the Time

  • @wz9573
    @wz9573 3 роки тому +31

    they say "we keep hearing", and that is the truth
    they just omit the "from our focus group of 8 year olds" part

  • @Carnax6969
    @Carnax6969 3 роки тому +20

    When I see these types of "controversies" I feel that it's the Publishers testing the waters, so they can gauge how far they can press their luck for future projects, by using failed games as the test subjects.

    • @thebenc1537
      @thebenc1537 3 роки тому +2

      Good point! Devs could never experiment like this on a successful game. They must run their tests on failing games. Would be too risky to try these tricks on a popular game making lots of money.

    • @Carnax6969
      @Carnax6969 3 роки тому +2

      @@thebenc1537 Indeed, but I'm accusing the Publishers, because I hope that the Devs are in-touch with the consumer base and know that shit like this doesn't fly well to the majority. It still baffles me how people can defend anti-consumer and/or egregious monetization practices.

    • @thebenc1537
      @thebenc1537 3 роки тому +2

      @@Carnax6969 I blame everyone invovled in a bad war from the generals to the footsoldiers.

  • @T.C
    @T.C 3 роки тому +7

    Avengers: makes grind slower
    EA: what if we take their idea but make players pay to speed up grinding🤔🤔

  • @jaredrivera2619
    @jaredrivera2619 3 роки тому

    All they had to do was to smooth the in mission xp and then give an end of mission xp bonus, so you get skills at the end of the mission. Then you can take the time to read skills

  • @j0hnEL08
    @j0hnEL08 3 роки тому +110

    skillpoints confusing players lol
    Path of Exile: "That's a problem ?!"

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 3 роки тому +2

      Well it confuses me wondering about where I'm going to put the skill points into my skills but that's about it I usually choose the skills I think I actually need and then I go about my day in the game like nothing happened it usually takes about a minute

    • @bballjosh11
      @bballjosh11 3 роки тому +10

      As someone with thousands of hours in PoE, I cant imagine how rough that game is for new players.

    • @MrMestapholese
      @MrMestapholese 3 роки тому +6

      It might be rough, but there are a million different guides out there for new players. The community has really been one of the shining beacons of PoE.

    • @propheticrain-maker1486
      @propheticrain-maker1486 3 роки тому +6

      I remember first getting PoE and only focusing on DPS in the skill tree. Didn't end well lol

    • @higgsbosontesticle
      @higgsbosontesticle 3 роки тому +1

      @@propheticrain-maker1486 I sure hope you weren't playing on hardcore!

  • @SourRobo8364
    @SourRobo8364 3 роки тому +84

    Fans: "Fix the game now, final warning."
    Developers: "I can do this all day." *adds more grind*

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 3 роки тому +3

      Instantly dies

    • @SickOfTheWorldXD
      @SickOfTheWorldXD 3 роки тому +1

      Why did I hear the "I can do this all day" in the voice of NCT?

    • @cobbil
      @cobbil 3 роки тому

      Also Devs: "Hyeuk, I'll fuckin do it again!"

  • @What.99
    @What.99 3 роки тому

    Just starting the video, and already I know this is gonna be good lol.

  • @jelleluyten5017
    @jelleluyten5017 3 роки тому +5

    Marvel's Avengers Dev's: *Make braindead choices*
    Yong: "Here i go making video's again!"

  • @thomasace2547
    @thomasace2547 3 роки тому +72

    Reminds me of the time the ANTHEM dev team accidentally buffed the loot drop chance
    Then everyone still playing thanked them... only for them to call it a mistake and nerf it even harder 🤣

    • @yanirfezodiakgold4479
      @yanirfezodiakgold4479 3 роки тому +6

      Game of the year.

    • @Treerootz1
      @Treerootz1 3 роки тому +13

      Anthem 2.0 will be worth the wai..... oh nevermind

    • @cristopher8186
      @cristopher8186 3 роки тому +6

      Absolutely hilarious, how stupid can a company be 😂😂

    • @cacomeat7385
      @cacomeat7385 3 роки тому +3

      Devs need to stop seeing every accidental thing as an issue. Hell, some of the most fun game mechanics in history have been accidental glitches that their respective communities learned to love. Fuck, the entire GTA franchise came from a bug found in their original concept of the first game.

    • @bertholdtohoover446
      @bertholdtohoover446 3 роки тому +1

      @@cacomeat7385 nuke ghandi

  • @RinkawaErion
    @RinkawaErion 3 роки тому +1

    We are planning on selling an item that increases your exp gain but you are already getting so much exp, so we decided to lower the exp gain so you would buy said item when it releases. >=)

  • @511tossthedice
    @511tossthedice 3 роки тому

    Journey before Destination brother!

  • @theodorepetridis3977
    @theodorepetridis3977 3 роки тому +85

    28% upvote, are you telling me that there are people who actually agree with the notion of more grind? Some people are beyond stupid i swear...

    • @JPogi690
      @JPogi690 3 роки тому +36

      I think those 28% upvotes are just fanboys of Marvel franchise in general. They're so thirsty for a new update/content that they're willing to take anything even if it makes the game more grindy asf. That is just sad.

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 3 роки тому +10

      @@JPogi690 I figured that's what it was when I saw that upvote rate. People keep comparing stuff like that to an abusive relationship. If they enjoy the game, it's one thing but they have to admit when something isn't good.

    • @AniGaAG
      @AniGaAG 3 роки тому +4

      Fanboyism for Marvel mixed with a healthy dose of sunken cost fallacy.

    • @ericm5315
      @ericm5315 3 роки тому +1

      It's Reddit, anything gaming related there turns into a cesspool of toxicity because gamers come in 2 types; those who play and those who whinge.

    • @chincemagnet
      @chincemagnet 3 роки тому +2

      Dude, some people will like every single thing they see whether they actually like it or not. Especially kids, they’re brainwashed to press like.

  • @MisteRRYouTuby
    @MisteRRYouTuby 3 роки тому +87

    There’s being tone deaf, and then there’s just straight up refusing to see logic.

  • @Dracounguis
    @Dracounguis 3 роки тому +1

    From that steam usage chart I don't think they have to worry about confusing new players. Cuz there don't seem to be any. 😆

  • @unclesamxlr
    @unclesamxlr 3 роки тому

    This kind of reminds me of what The Secret World did with it's re-release. Said that the ability wheel was too intimidating for new players(kind of is to be fair.) So they did away with it and way dumbed down skills, killing all ability/weapon synergies. Killed what I thought was a fun aspect, there was so much to play around with. Now it's pretty limited and basic.

  • @ramiel7666
    @ramiel7666 3 роки тому +43

    Marvel's Avengers Dev: "Let me just pour some napalm on the fire......"

  • @Memnoch_the_Devil
    @Memnoch_the_Devil 3 роки тому +29

    “Boss, we have almost NO gamers playing this game! What can we do to bring people back and gain new players?”
    “I know. Make the game even worse. That’ll bring people back!”

  • @Asubatsu
    @Asubatsu 3 роки тому +5

    They forgot this wasn't a free mobile game.

  • @PhilXavierSierraJones
    @PhilXavierSierraJones 3 роки тому

    I wonder how much the MGS5 merch to the left of the screen (a prosthetic hand with ✌) cost, because that looks really cool.

  • @Circuitssmith
    @Circuitssmith 3 роки тому +17

    “The game is confusing and overwhelming, we want choices to have meaning” has to take its place among “sense of pride and accomplishment.”

  • @CrowMercury
    @CrowMercury 3 роки тому +38

    The best prt is this guy literally copypasted the same thing they said before. “ You see, it’s not x, it’s x. Why you don’t understand me?”
    Can’t wait for the insults to the playerbase to arrive. Remember kids, this is what you paid for. You keep buying, they keep treating you like this.

  • @shaunsteele4968
    @shaunsteele4968 3 роки тому

    I like to look at positives. You made the man who just got admonished for the original message feel much better. You did do that.

  • @commodoreRumbleshanks
    @commodoreRumbleshanks 3 роки тому

    Hark! Hear the faint sound of anthem calling from the grave

  • @Shellbulletkaz
    @Shellbulletkaz 3 роки тому +28

    Can’t wait to see this join Anthem and Artifact in the discontinued bin.

  • @3Guys1Video
    @3Guys1Video 3 роки тому +30

    I’m calling it now
    This game is not even gonna get half its character dlc out before its development shuts down

    • @deicidium1887
      @deicidium1887 3 роки тому +2

      It's baffling at this day and age, they can just get other rpg-looter-beat em up ideas/concept and improve on them. Everything in that game is kinda the opposite of what's supposed to be a good live service looter game. It's like they've been living under the rock (similar to what Massive did with Division 2 after the fixes/improvement they made in Division 1)

    • @3Guys1Video
      @3Guys1Video 3 роки тому +1

      @@deicidium1887 just give me a damn role playing party game of the avengers except this

    • @drax1s729
      @drax1s729 3 роки тому

      @@3Guys1Video Marvels Ultimate Alliance franchise is the best one I know.

    • @3Guys1Video
      @3Guys1Video 3 роки тому

      @@drax1s729 welp I’ll play that instead
      Or I’ll just play Spiderman PS4 again

  • @MrXanra
    @MrXanra 3 роки тому

    Remember final fantasy 14 1.0 that introduced the exp fatigue System? The thing where you could get only a certain amount of exp per week and after that you would just not lvl anymore at all for the rest of the week... That was one of many things that stoped people from playing and lead to FF 14 2.0 in the end.

  • @cedricjohn1302
    @cedricjohn1302 3 роки тому

    I know that the gun was already on their head, but i didn’t expect them to pull the trigger themselves.

  • @aurex8937
    @aurex8937 3 роки тому +92

    Players: "That's fucked up!"
    Marvel: "You just don't understand how brilliant we truly are."
    Players: *Abandon ship*
    Marvel: *Surprised deadpool face*

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 3 роки тому +7

      Deadpool goes back in time and kills the idiot that thought this was. A good idea

    • @mbob4337
      @mbob4337 3 роки тому +2

      This nonsense needs a 500 mile sized shocked deadpool.

  • @bernardosales1044
    @bernardosales1044 3 роки тому +82

    How is this game still alive?
    Just take it out the back and put it out of its misery, even Anthem had the decency to do so

    • @steve833333
      @steve833333 3 роки тому +8

      The game is dead. Live service garbage can't survive with a few hundred players. But killing it now would only make Square Enix look bad and/or potentially lose the license. They have no choice but to venture on and support it. You don't want Disney on your ass.

    • @majorBearsky
      @majorBearsky 3 роки тому +9

      Took em forever to do so tho, so i think if this is killed off soon it'll be classified (to me atleast) as worse then anthem

    • @QullVideo
      @QullVideo 3 роки тому +10

      EA wasn't so kind. They let Anthem's rotten corpse stink out the room for months before finally abandoning it in a ditch.

    • @MazeMaker4Life
      @MazeMaker4Life 3 роки тому +2

      How long did it take for anthem to get put down? Couple years right? Expect marvel to die near the same length of time.

    • @TrigoNomentry
      @TrigoNomentry 3 роки тому +2

      But Anthem was "alive" for almost 2 years before they finally canned it. Avengers game will go on longer but these recent decisions will probably axe it sooner.

  • @jackeriksen6753
    @jackeriksen6753 3 роки тому +1

    Had a shot for each ding!
    i'm not drnuk. i'm okay!

  • @Bluu_Bunni
    @Bluu_Bunni 3 роки тому

    The only thing where I think their logic makes some sense, some, not a lot, is the Mastery page. The fact that one point gives three different option could cause someone to want to read each point before spending a point. But I really only had that problem if I was leveling up mid mission. Overall I have no problem with getting 2-3 "dings" per mission

  • @nandoman4769
    @nandoman4769 3 роки тому +21

    Maybe they have some sort of Uwe Boll type deal where they want to game to fail so that they make money back.

    • @rudeboyjohn3483
      @rudeboyjohn3483 3 роки тому +1

      Gotta report a certain amount of losses for that lower tax bracket