I absolutely love the fact that the linux community is gaining and WINNING in the mainstream content space. Been using linux since 2013 and it made me fall in love with COMPUTERS (not just linux!) 😃 Subscribed and waiting for more!
On POINT! Made me fall in love with computers again and didn't make me feel stupid anymore like windows exceeds at doing, when it turns out it was just needlessly complicated and bloated, been like a graphic novel to a childrens picture book!
I like to tinker too, But I also like not waiting fifty hours to install everything I use on a new install. That's why I prefer Arch. Gentoo seems like a nice pet project to tinker with though. Like an old car you keep in your garage, but never drive.
Arch is an awesome distro! I used it for years before I went to Gentoo. Compile times aren't that bad if you have the hardware for it either. I'm running a Ryzen 7 3700X in my computer right now. That has 8 cores, 16 threads. I can compile chromium with that CPU in a little over 2 hours. For most other things, compile times are trivial. There are also tools like distcc and ccache that you can use to help speed up compiling even more. As far as the time it takes for a new install, it definitely does take longer than a pre-compiled binary distro but if it's something you enjoy doing, I don't think it's that bad either.
@@nick0lis077 I didn't directly use tmpfs but I think some things use tmpfs without specifying it explicitly. I'd have to check though to know for sure what uses tmpfs.
Gentoo is amazing. You get a level of customization and optimization you can only get with a source based distro. It is the most stable system ive ever installed. Updates never break it. No two Gentoo installs are alike. Configuring your kernel is the hardest part. The moment of truth in a gentoo installation is the reboot.
The way I look at it, it is a way to truly understand how the OS runs as a whole. It’s not that I needed to know but it gave me a greater appreciation for it.
Personally, Gentoo is amazing. It has few things no other distros can offer, like flexiblity. And I don't mean USE Flags. I Mean, the fact, that you can mix repos, and still have proper, stable system. It won't just explode after one update. It will work and update. Also portage is whole another level if it comes to package managers.
Thanks for making this video! I'm the kind of guy that swears by Manjaro KDE for all of his basic computing, but I love playing with more technical distributions in virtual machines so I can freely break stuff and learn from it without consequence, and Gentoo seems like it would be fantastic for that once my Linux skills are up to snuff. Even beyond that, I love seeing these distros being configured for everyday use, as your Steam and Spotify launchers seems to indicate.
Looooong compile times. I built gentoo in virtual years ago and it probably was an 8 hour event for just a usable desktop with a simple window manager (fluxbox). I deliberately built it without a file manager to use the CLI. I have an old 32 bit IDE box sitting around not doing much of anything so maybe I should take the plunge. I use Arch and halfway hope something breaks when I update or doesn't work out of the box. Keeps your nerd skills sharp.
WM: BSPWM Status Bar: Polybar Compositor: Picom Terminal Emulator: Alacritty Fonts: Should be Liberation/Font Awsome Regular and Brands in the status bar Theme: Dracula I have a dotfiles repo here: github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles A fairly comprehensive list of packages that are used on the system should be in the packages function in the tools/install.sh script.
what command do i use to mount rclone in gentoo? Because I mount mega and have to unmount, every time I upload new files to mega. If I don't unmount rclone, it doesn't update the view of the new files.
Windows is really spooky. The spookiness of Mac OS is related more to creating their ideal user space. I think Apple _at the very least_ cares about privacy as a marketing tactic.
I primarily do web development. As for specialization, I try to not really specialize in any one area of web development. I'll do the FE as well as the BE and all the DevOps pipeline stuff too.
What are your configs if I may ask -2 year gentoo user here :3, reinstalling it on my PC after using arch for a bit, but I use gentoo on my laptop along side LFS
If you decide to run the install script, there is a switch for skipping the emerge --sync step that you will probably want to use just in case there's some tweaking to use flags/keywords/licenses when you install. That will keep you from performing the sync every time you run the install script while trying to make portage happy with everything. You should be able to use that flag by appending --no-sync to the command in the README after the --.
The main reason I don't use Gentoo is because my computer has 4GB of RAM with an i3-3110M (integrated graphics), so I can't really compile anything worthwhile, otherwise I would have ditched Arch a long time ago.
I too switched from Red Hat, which I'd used since '96 or so, in my case it was because I was locally building many of my own RPMs at that point anyway. Must have been around 2001, really early Gentoo days! I've been using Gentoo for 20 years! Crazy!
in the late 80's early 90's I was a free BSD freek, I used to do network installs weekly for the fun of it, clean.. I miss it, it was basic but kinda cool, slow over dial up for sure, gentoo just doesn't have the support I want and no one tailors anything for it browser wise so its worthless for an internet rigg, maybe good for a roll your own like a kali hybrid? secure all that and good for flufless systems, compile everything insures you don't have anything you do not need or want, best way to go fora legit nix box.. so fuggen lazy anymore if I cannot click a few buttons I seem to never do it, burnt out, NDS wrapper and the likes burnt me out in the 90's lol.. a guy had to roll up a wireless winnows river via a wrapper, worked once you got it down but man what again, hale you used to have to write your drivers for printers and peripherals, no chit .. prolly why I'm just meh point and click anymore, old fart anywho
I believe Linux puts you on a more intime level of understanding an operating system because if you learn straight from windows, You for sure build a bond and enjoy toying with things. You might get frustrated at times but just keep in mind, its worth it all the way
@@Agathon88 mtune set up flags so the binary will run on every cpu, but on yours better. March set up flags so the binary will be running as best as posible on your cpu, but that might make the binary not run on other cpus. Both might set flas that should not be together
@@angelosdkg I'm guilty of being a flagrant distrohopper so I have used Artix. One of the reasons why I don't think I'd do that now is because I use some suckless utilities and Gentoo gives first class support to patching software. Basically, I can install something like dmenu with portage and then add patches for something like xresources support as opposed to having to bypass the package manager or maintain an AUR package and try to keep that in sync with the upstream for that utility. wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
@@evildragon1774 my @ is a meme, i use Gentoo, I don't want ro chabge my username just because of some random person on the internet, thanks and have a good day
@@anthonylannutti509 I am not sure I understand. I have very little experience in compiling, but I am not aware of anything in any system that prevents compiling from source. I cannot compile windows form source, but I can compile even ubuntu. And after the OS is installed, I can compile any code I want. Just because most people have the option of dling a compiled version, does not remove the choice. I understand that this portage system is baked into the system and makes things easy, but code is not typically distro dependent. Just compile portage on an ubuntu machine, and if you want compile ubuntu yourself first.
@@wisnoskij you said it yourself. Portage is what makes it special. It allows you to compile from source but still have all the nicities that come with a package manager. You can compile from source on whatever distro you want but that isn't a first class way of installing software like it is in Gentoo or Funtoo.
As of my job change a month ago, I do use Gentoo on my work machine. It hasn't caused me any issues that I wouldn't have expected. Just the standard Gentoo problems like long emerge times. If you don't use systemd and tools that you need for work require systemd, that can cause some trouble too but nothing I haven't been able to work through
I know your comment is somewhat sarcastic, but honest question: What’s the benefits of funtoo compared to gentoo? Why should someone use it? And don’t come up with portage uses git instead of rsync. I set up my portage on gentoo to use git years ago.
@@hansdampf2284 Is it not obvious, because it is FUN. Seriously because the guy who runs made funtoo had also made gentoo. Daniel Robbins is a super guy who deserves super cred. There is no reason to use one over the other...they are actually both similar enough to where it makes no real difference. I just kind of think if Daniel Robbins is running funtoo...the "real" gentoo is not the one he got kicked out of, but the one he is doing now.
@@batboy49 Little knowledge is dangerous. You should do a little research before commenting. I won't feed you but, I'll give you chance to do a better study on this topic. Look up why Sabayon Linux are rebranding to MocaccinoOS collaborating with Funtoo. They are going beyond the "Linux Distribution" to "Immutable Desktop OS".
@@sawwwru What? You seriously thought a silly comment like that was worth commenting on? Look it was just meant to be silly I do not really care what distro anyone uses, or what machinations go into their production. If push comes to shove I can just to LFS and BLFS, it takes a little bit but then I would have NO distro. Really, do not take silly comments that are obviously silly seriously, who has time for that? Or were you being silly and I mistook it for serious?
You run Gentoo and don't wear sleeves, a fellow man of culture!
As an inferior sleeve-wearing FreeBSD user, I agree
Hey mental outlaw here
@@fcolecumberri running gentoo: 🙂
5 hr browser install time: 💀
@@samuelmatheson9655 Pffff... 9.5 hr to install tensorflow. Just put it before you go to bed and at the morning you will see your stuff compiled.
@@fcolecumberri error pgp signature missmatch
"because I hate myself" lmao the perfect way to answer a question
Great start
I loved it
i agree
Awesome lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The first 5 seconds was the most honesty you will ever get from gentoo users.
Installing and maintaining Gentoo and arch has been like a full semester course in Linux administration IME.
i love videos that don't clickbait and answer within 6 seconds
Close your eyes and imagine the title was "Jordan Peterson: Why I use gentoo".
I absolutely love the fact that the linux community is gaining and WINNING in the mainstream content space.
Been using linux since 2013 and it made me fall in love with COMPUTERS (not just linux!) 😃
Subscribed and waiting for more!
winning in mainstream? - not yet, LTT makes clear WHY it's not and won't until things are fixed
@@jabbermacy trust me they'll never learn/understand linux
They are using it just for views / trial
And they sooner return to windows.
Ikr
@@window.location his channels are just a business
On POINT! Made me fall in love with computers again and didn't make me feel stupid anymore like windows exceeds at doing, when it turns out it was just needlessly complicated and bloated, been like a graphic novel to a childrens picture book!
I like to tinker too,
But I also like not waiting fifty hours to install everything I use on a new install.
That's why I prefer Arch.
Gentoo seems like a nice pet project to tinker with though. Like an old car you keep in your garage, but never drive.
Arch is an awesome distro! I used it for years before I went to Gentoo. Compile times aren't that bad if you have the hardware for it either. I'm running a Ryzen 7 3700X in my computer right now. That has 8 cores, 16 threads. I can compile chromium with that CPU in a little over 2 hours. For most other things, compile times are trivial. There are also tools like distcc and ccache that you can use to help speed up compiling even more. As far as the time it takes for a new install, it definitely does take longer than a pre-compiled binary distro but if it's something you enjoy doing, I don't think it's that bad either.
@@anthonylannutti509 did you use tmpfs ?
@@nick0lis077 I didn't directly use tmpfs but I think some things use tmpfs without specifying it explicitly. I'd have to check though to know for sure what uses tmpfs.
Even on my 10 year old laptop it took only 12 hours not 50 :D
@@anthonylannutti509 Having build dependencies is another bother you avoid with Arch (Pre compiled packages). And I like my computer to be clean.
Gentoo is amazing. You get a level of customization and optimization you can only get with a source based distro. It is the most stable system ive ever installed. Updates never break it. No two Gentoo installs are alike. Configuring your kernel is the hardest part. The moment of truth in a gentoo installation is the reboot.
The way I look at it, it is a way to truly understand how the OS runs as a whole. It’s not that I needed to know but it gave me a greater appreciation for it.
Personally, Gentoo is amazing.
It has few things no other distros can offer, like flexiblity. And I don't mean USE Flags. I Mean, the fact, that you can mix repos, and still have proper, stable system. It won't just explode after one update. It will work and update.
Also portage is whole another level if it comes to package managers.
Thanks for making this video! I'm the kind of guy that swears by Manjaro KDE for all of his basic computing, but I love playing with more technical distributions in virtual machines so I can freely break stuff and learn from it without consequence, and Gentoo seems like it would be fantastic for that once my Linux skills are up to snuff. Even beyond that, I love seeing these distros being configured for everyday use, as your Steam and Spotify launchers seems to indicate.
Your video is now recommending , keep it work 👍
great video, you got blessed by the algorithm a little, keep up those videos
I love Gentoo, but I don't have enough time to tinker it perfectly to me. So instead I use Arch or Endeavour. Great video though!
Awesome video, thank you so much.
Looooong compile times. I built gentoo in virtual years ago and it probably was an 8 hour event for just a usable desktop with a simple window manager (fluxbox). I deliberately built it without a file manager to use the CLI. I have an old 32 bit IDE box sitting around not doing much of anything so maybe I should take the plunge.
I use Arch and halfway hope something breaks when I update or doesn't work out of the box. Keeps your nerd skills sharp.
That is a beautiful desktop! What WM are you using? And what is that top-bar? It honestly looks phenomenal!
WM: BSPWM
Status Bar: Polybar
Compositor: Picom
Terminal Emulator: Alacritty
Fonts: Should be Liberation/Font Awsome Regular and Brands in the status bar
Theme: Dracula
I have a dotfiles repo here: github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles
A fairly comprehensive list of packages that are used on the system should be in the packages function in the tools/install.sh script.
@@anthonylannutti509 Oh my. I didn't expect such a detailed response. Thank you, man. You just gained a new subscriber!
@@anthonylannutti509 nice
Good video, explains why I don't use gentoo.
0:01 gentoo gives you the power of moving faster than your framerate
Just compile with -realtime useflag
Lol
what command do i use to mount rclone in gentoo?
Because I mount mega and have to unmount, every time I upload new files to mega. If I don't unmount rclone, it doesn't update the view of the new files.
Windows is really spooky.
The spookiness of Mac OS is related more to creating their ideal user space. I think Apple _at the very least_ cares about privacy as a marketing tactic.
Really cool top bar, are u using dwm or awesome wm by any chance?
Nope, I'm using BSPWM and Polybar. My dotfiles are available at github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles
Next year I want to go full Gentoo like real chads.
I too use Gentoo. Good to know I'm not alone here :)
Can I install Gen too on tough book 31 that uses Windows 10?
Is it sad I really really use Gentoo because I feel like my hardware I criminally underused otherwise?
I actually got new hardware because of gentoo :D
What type of software engineering are you focused on and what is your specialization if i might ask?
I primarily do web development. As for specialization, I try to not really specialize in any one area of web development. I'll do the FE as well as the BE and all the DevOps pipeline stuff too.
Subbed, based purely on that intro.
running vanilla arch for 2 years now its time to try gentoo :D only for the felx being the onlyone on protondb useing gentoo xD
Hi I saw your tutorial on how to setup osu on linux nice to see you here
@@zlrivo Thank you
What are your configs if I may ask
-2 year gentoo user here :3, reinstalling it on my PC after using arch for a bit, but I use gentoo on my laptop along side LFS
There are may or may not be issues with soft links in my install script but this is my dotfiles repo.
github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles
If you decide to run the install script, there is a switch for skipping the emerge --sync step that you will probably want to use just in case there's some tweaking to use flags/keywords/licenses when you install. That will keep you from performing the sync every time you run the install script while trying to make portage happy with everything. You should be able to use that flag by appending --no-sync to the command in the README after the --.
dude, nice video. You talk slow i like it.
And nice gentoo setup there ngl :v
You are gonna get famous
Your wm looks awesome any chance for a config ?
Config files and install script are available at github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles
The main reason I don't use Gentoo is because my computer has 4GB of RAM with an i3-3110M (integrated graphics), so I can't really compile anything worthwhile, otherwise I would have ditched Arch a long time ago.
I've installed Gentoo on my 15 years old PC, it took me 10 hours to recompile whole system with kde, but it's possible to use and maintain it
Gentoo plus armless shirt OMG!
ccache? i from use zram and tmpfs for compile
Because gentoo use u
I run Gentoo because I don't like RPM. I switched to Gentoo from Red Hat after the second time it corrupted it's RPM database and never left.
I too switched from Red Hat, which I'd used since '96 or so, in my case it was because I was locally building many of my own RPMs at that point anyway. Must have been around 2001, really early Gentoo days! I've been using Gentoo for 20 years! Crazy!
in the late 80's early 90's I was a free BSD freek, I used to do network installs weekly for the fun of it, clean.. I miss it, it was basic but kinda cool, slow over dial up for sure, gentoo just doesn't have the support I want and no one tailors anything for it browser wise so its worthless for an internet rigg, maybe good for a roll your own like a kali hybrid? secure all that and good for flufless systems, compile everything insures you don't have anything you do not need or want, best way to go fora legit nix box.. so fuggen lazy anymore if I cannot click a few buttons I seem to never do it, burnt out, NDS wrapper and the likes burnt me out in the 90's lol.. a guy had to roll up a wireless winnows river via a wrapper, worked once you got it down but man what again, hale you used to have to write your drivers for printers and peripherals, no chit .. prolly why I'm just meh point and click anymore, old fart anywho
i agree
I believe Linux puts you on a more intime level of understanding an operating system because if you learn straight from windows, You for sure build a bond and enjoy toying with things. You might get frustrated at times but just keep in mind, its worth it all the way
I use gentoo because portage is awesome. I am also to dumb for the other package managers
Also tinkering. I open everything that’s broken and try to repair it.
resonate
easy to install
Actually this is the first time I've seen someone having that much common flags in their make.conf lol
It is advised to not use -mtune and -march at the same time on your compile flags
@@Agathon88 mtune set up flags so the binary will run on every cpu, but on yours better.
March set up flags so the binary will be running as best as posible on your cpu, but that might make the binary not run on other cpus.
Both might set flas that should not be together
with systemd or openrc ?
OpenRC
@@anthonylannutti509 why not go and ocme to artix with openrc ? :P
@@angelosdkg I'm guilty of being a flagrant distrohopper so I have used Artix. One of the reasons why I don't think I'd do that now is because I use some suckless utilities and Gentoo gives first class support to patching software. Basically, I can install something like dmenu with portage and then add patches for something like xresources support as opposed to having to bypass the package manager or maintain an AUR package and try to keep that in sync with the upstream for that utility.
wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/patches
I use arch btw
I would absolutely use gentoo if my school did not force me to use proprietary stuff that I can only find in the Arch user repository lol
What do you use? Gentoo have user overlays, just like arch have AUR
@@Gentoo701 I use Arch and arch based distros. I'm forced to use Zoom and Microsoft Teams
@@Gentoo701 oh sorry, I should have researched. It seems the Gentoo repo does have zoom and teams.
Man you sounds like you'll cry at next moment... That Gentoo impact..
I like gentoo because i like to tinker with everything too lol
Change your username to gentoo bruv.
@@evildragon1774 my @ is a meme, i use Gentoo, I don't want ro chabge my username just because of some random person on the internet, thanks and have a good day
@@ari_archer well have a good day for you as well
Short answer: systemd
post more content please
because I hate myself 😂
why i use gentoo?
Bc have noting better to do.
So Gentoo is the only Linux distro that allows compiling?
Gentoo and Funtoo support maintaining the entire system from source which is different than any other distributions I'm aware of.
@@anthonylannutti509
I am not sure I understand. I have very little experience in compiling, but I am not aware of anything in any system that prevents compiling from source. I cannot compile windows form source, but I can compile even ubuntu. And after the OS is installed, I can compile any code I want. Just because most people have the option of dling a compiled version, does not remove the choice.
I understand that this portage system is baked into the system and makes things easy, but code is not typically distro dependent. Just compile portage on an ubuntu machine, and if you want compile ubuntu yourself first.
@@wisnoskij you said it yourself. Portage is what makes it special. It allows you to compile from source but still have all the nicities that come with a package manager. You can compile from source on whatever distro you want but that isn't a first class way of installing software like it is in Gentoo or Funtoo.
@@wisnoskijgo ahead and try to compile every program on your system while also keeping track of all the dependencies yourself
Do you use gentoo on your actual work machine? If so has it ever caused you any issues?
As of my job change a month ago, I do use Gentoo on my work machine. It hasn't caused me any issues that I wouldn't have expected. Just the standard Gentoo problems like long emerge times. If you don't use systemd and tools that you need for work require systemd, that can cause some trouble too but nothing I haven't been able to work through
I hate myself but I use mint so idk
I use that also
Wallpaper please
github.com/lannuttia/dotfiles/blob/master/.local/share/backgrounds/purple-mountain.jpg
00:04 i should switch to Gentoo
Gentoo
Unless you have a lots of CPU power and RAM, prepare to spend hours, days even a week to have everything installed.
"bcz i hate myself"
ok ok but this compile time make me sick but a tinkering its ok
I think it is because you do not know about funtoo?
I know your comment is somewhat sarcastic, but honest question:
What’s the benefits of funtoo compared to gentoo? Why should someone use it?
And don’t come up with portage uses git instead of rsync. I set up my portage on gentoo to use git years ago.
I have honestly never used Funtoo. I know of it but I also don't know what it offers that would cause someone to want to use it over Gentoo.
@@hansdampf2284 Is it not obvious, because it is FUN. Seriously because the guy who runs made funtoo had also made gentoo. Daniel Robbins is a super guy who deserves super cred. There is no reason to use one over the other...they are actually both similar enough to where it makes no real difference. I just kind of think if Daniel Robbins is running funtoo...the "real" gentoo is not the one he got kicked out of, but the one he is doing now.
@@batboy49 Little knowledge is dangerous. You should do a little research before commenting. I won't feed you but, I'll give you chance to do a better study on this topic. Look up why Sabayon Linux are rebranding to MocaccinoOS collaborating with Funtoo. They are going beyond the "Linux Distribution" to "Immutable Desktop OS".
@@sawwwru What? You seriously thought a silly comment like that was worth commenting on? Look it was just meant to be silly I do not really care what distro anyone uses, or what machinations go into their production. If push comes to shove I can just to LFS and BLFS, it takes a little bit but then I would have NO distro. Really, do not take silly comments that are obviously silly seriously, who has time for that? Or were you being silly and I mistook it for serious?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 because i hate myself
Am a busy man. Cant even think about using gentoo. And it doest make sense using gentoo for daily driver.
this is a broken man
Nerd