Purely Mail - Communication shouldn't be left to chance!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- In this video. I discuss how imortant it is to ensure that your communications are delivered, whether to your clients from you, to you from your clients, or even from your automated systems like authentication, support tools, monitoring systems and so much more. We discuss the pros and cons of self hosting email in 2024 and beyond, as well as the benefits of using a service like Purely Mail. As always, my goal is to help us get our MSP, or any other business up and running with as little up front cost as we can.
I have no affiliation to Purely Mail, and the link below is just to their main site. I have no stake in you using Purely or any other solution.
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=== Timestamps ===
00:00 Beginning
00:08 Introduction
03:02 Quick Aside about Running a Mail Server from your Homelab
03:30 Purely Mail Pricing Overview - It's Cheap!
05:33 Creating your Admin Account
07:48 Setting Up Purely Mail to Send andReceive using your Domain
08:51 Setup EMail DNS Records for Purely Mail
16:02 Setup Our First Email Address
22:34 The Purely Mail Stats Dashboard
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Always makes me happy when I see a notification saying you've got a new video up. I really appreciate you showing this as I hadn't heard of Purelymail. I'm considering setting up a new IT business and will very likely set my email up with them.
Thanks, and glad you enjoy the content!
Ive been selfhosting my mail servers for 10+ years now.😊
how do you avoid blocked by gmail?
@@davidlu7627 got my own ipv4 range.
It's totally possible, I think the trick is getting an ipv4 that spammers haven't already ruined.
Gmail request a few setting. mx, txt, cname, etc. @@AwesomeOpenSource
@@davidlu7627 Wouldn't that require a valid certificate for the server?
Great video again Brian, Even though I am not going to be implementing this at the moment, it is awesome to know about and would definitely use it if I was to change my email hosting provider. Also something great to offer clients if they are just looking for setting up email and aren't part of the Google or MS ecosystems.
I agree, it's a great opportunity all the way around.
So its like an equivalent of Google Workspaces which we re already running. What you didn t mention is the amount of free space each user has. So questions are:
-user's space
-Can a user has alias to those emails?
-Can you forward emails of an existent user to another one?
-Does this service provide a cloud drive where users can share files?
-Does it have a notificatin center where you can monitor user's activities?
PS I have an idea for a video of yours. Setup 2-3 Zentyal servers, one for DHCP/DNS/AD, another one for File and (mandatory) Printer sharing.All clients running Windows. The third one probably isnt possible yet since I cant think of a way a linux server running windows instances, so act like an RDP server.
This is email only (purely mail), so no shared cloud space. It's really just for email. The creator doesn't specify a quota, but he has some verbiage around excessive usage making professional pricing more valuable. As to the exact amounts I don't know. I do remember forwarding to other emails being in there, but not sure on aliases.
You can self host from home and use ddclient and you can get your ip removed from the block list the hard part is getting rDNS setup which you can kind of fudge with PTR dns records
Interesting. Never heard of the methods you give, but good to know.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *📧 Setting up email communication for business*
- Setting up email communication for business on VPS providers like Linode, Digital Ocean, etc.
02:06 *📬 Exploring the Purely Mail service*
- Purely Mail is a promising email service still in beta, offering solid email services at a competitive price.
03:33 *💸 Affordable pricing and payment options*
- Comparing the yearly costs of various email services like Gmail, Zoho, and others.
- Purely Mail offers a cost-effective solution at $10 per user per year.
05:38 *🔒 Domain setup and security measures*
- Detailed guide on setting up a domain with Purely Mail, including MX records, SPF records, DKIM records, and DMARC records.
- Ensuring email security by following recommended security protocols such as setting up two-factor authentication and backup codes.
19:27 *💼 Managing users and account settings*
- Easily create new users for different domains within Purely Mail.
- Set up strong passwords and application passwords for added security.
- Utilize application features like two-factor authentication and password reset methods.
21:18 *📧 Exploring the Purely Mail webmail interface*
- Accessing and navigating the webmail interface provided by Purely Mail.
- Testing email functionality by sending and receiving emails.
- Confirming successful email delivery and replies.
22:50 *💳 Billing and account management*
- Overview of the billing section within Purely Mail.
- Information on credit card updates, billing modes, and yearly automatic charge limits.
- Monitoring usage reports, storage allocations, and email statistics.
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Thanks. I have timestamps in the video to help, ut not quite so detailed.
Personally, my only concern with 3rd party email is privacy, while I'm not doing anything that will make the police come to my door... I think its well known how gmail reads the emails and i think outlook even checked an encrypted zip file from a security researcher? Will definitely give this a try anyway, tried hosting my own and it worked but feels like security will be a pain in the ass
I agree, sadly email is one of the most commonly used communications we still have today.
Watching now, should this be considered part 3 of the MSP series you're doing?
It is indeed part 3. Part 4 is in the works.
@@AwesomeOpenSource Love it! I actually never thought about mail port blocks with regard to VPS, definitely a good call out
Does this mean i need to add the email twice? once in purely mail and also in plesk? as no new email address is reflected in plesk which is where i get the info to add to my mail client and for forms etc.
I'm not familiar with pleask, so can't say, but only 1 system should be managing your email accounts.
What is a good solution for backing up multiple huge email inboxes?
Where are the email inboxes? Generally the service will have a backup of some sort. If self hosted, you need to know what you're using for the various parts, then we can figure out how to back them up.
Hi Brian dharashan here from South Africa. Been a while great video as per normal. Can you set this up with a mail client like thunderbird or outlook
You sure can.
Mail is one of the few things I don’t self-host. Most people like MS Outlook and Exchange sever features which is very hard to replicate without Exchange and self-hosting / licensing Exchange is a security and cost nightmare. I just stick with O365 for these needs. It’s not free, but it’s not terrible either in terms of cost.
Totally understand. There are some great services out there for this type of thing. I'd say, maybe look at the NextCloud hosted offering if you ever want to ditch the rest of MS, and then pair that with a service like ProtonMail.
Are you thinking about getting a affiliate link to this service? Interested in using this solution for a couple domains and might as well help out if possible.
No, I'm really not, Just wanted to use it, and wanted to share with you all. It seems like a good option for starting out on a business, and a really great cost.
@@AwesomeOpenSource Thank you for the reply and for sharing the knowledge. :)
What are the challenges you have had with Gmail and SMTP? It's what I'm currently using and haven't had any challenges in my small deployment. Curious what I may run into as I expand
They keep changing the authentication requirements. At this point I'm completely unable to get Ricoh or Sharp MFP devices to send.
I have 100s of comments from over the ysears of folks trying to use GMail for SMTP, and they can't get it to work. The application password wouldn't work, or their 2FA blocked it, and on and on. It's just a headache I want to avoid, and allow others to avoid if possible. Anyone is free to use what they want, of course. If it works for you, then use it. Nothing wrong with that.
@@AwesomeOpenSource appreciate the response, I have a very small set-up right now and not to many unique use cases, but as I grow I'll be on the lookout, right now it's working and I go by if it ain't brok don't fix it mentality:)
@@AwesomeOpenSource there's a setting to "allow lesser secure login" within your google account. If that isn't checked smtp won't work for 99% of things
i have never gotten gmail smtp to work.
i don't know anyone who even HAS
No-Ip and presumably others offer smtp proxy services so you can host your own incoming mail server and still have reliable outgoing service.
Interesting. I'll have to see if I can find more on that.
dynamic IPs get auto blocked by many large mail servers. This is why people report having issues in the first place.
Self hosting email is fine... the first step is buy a static IP
Can you make a video about how to get ana manage domains cheaply
When you say get and manage, can you give me more on what you're trying to do? What is "cheaply" to you? I pay around #12 US per year for a domain name, and manage it with the tools that Hover provides.
Cloudflare DNS management is free. And good.
Not interested in the service, but nice call out on self-hosted email. Do you think email might be dead?
I don't think email is even close to dead. I would love to see it mkae a huge leap forward, but no, it will be around for a long time yet.
I like open source but putting my trust in a one person LLC? I am not sure where the sevice is hosted neither sure what backup solutions are used (what if disaster strikes in a single datacenter, or is it his garage?). This looks very vulnerable giving the missing info. From a European standpoint the location as also encryption of the data is an extra concern. Maybe you should further look into this service, as also you could make a compare to simular services.
Keep up, I do like your channel!
I'll see what I can find out.
@@AwesomeOpenSourceany updates?