I'm no logger but I have some experience cutting timber in the PNW. There's just no explaining how beautiful it is to be in it. The sound of a chainsaw, the smell two stroke burning, and wood chips flying! It's a special place. Great video! Stay safe!
Anyone who has run a saw day in and day out knows that there’s two sides of the bar. If you know what the hell you are doing, you can use either side efficiently and safely. Too many people on UA-cam get so concerned with seeing something that they perceive as unsafe and they want to call people out on it. I’ve been cutting professionally for 15 years and know how to do it safely. If you’ve never worked in the woods or been on the saw for six hours a day consistently, then you can’t really speak for the cutters out there then start telling them that they are doing something wrong or unsafe. I Backbar all the time in the appropriate situation. You cannot fall timber and constantly put yourself in the optimal standing position and stance. It’s just not feasible in real life situation that cutters face every single day. Also, I never like sawdust blowing directly in my face so if I have the opportunity to back bar, you better believe I will.
Well said! I would add that my experience with the 661 and lots of back bar issues/premature failures to include pto side bearing failure, av mounts, and most importantly intake boots….all of that should be addressed by stihl if they cared about working cutters! I have started installing gen1 boot’s that had the bellows still molded in….. #STIHL TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUTTERS!
I back bar all the time I just don't tap the throttle every second like a hillbilly. First log he bucked he was making powder. Maybe instead of buying everything he can fit on his wedge belt he learns how to grind a chain.
Great footage we're on the other side of the mountain logging the lionshead fire. Been at it for over a year. It's sad that much burned it was really beautiful country. But still wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
I fell timber in B.C. for years back in the 70's. I never liked using the back bar technique. I liked to always set the dogs in the tree. Works for him but I only ask why?? The saw cuts better and faster while using the dogs...Comments???
I honestly couldn’t tell ya what his reasoning for it is. He doesn’t do it on every tree but what I can tell you is he’s one of the best timber fallers I’ve ever seen.
@@jdavenport_photo Yes he sure looks good with the saw. I just found is harder to get a level back cut with the back of the bar. When I broke in almost 50 years ago the Oldtimers would give you hell for that. Also very tiring. Good for him and his crew. Keep your head up and stay safe guys!
@@mikeuyeda2330 He might have used saws without a wrap handle for awhile and cutting with the back of the bar just comes naturally to him. It's nothing hard, with practice we can learn anything.
@@em4703 Yes but that does not necessarily mean it is a better technique. If it was a more effective method, why is it rarely seen I can learn how to drive a car using both feet for the gas and brake but we all know that this is wrong!
@@jdavenport_photo He Is Part Of a Team. ," Gordy MIke. I Believe He didn,t use the Dogs because doing so would have buried the Bar Nose into the Other Tree in front of the One he was Cutting. Also I believe he back Barred this bringing the Saw up closer to his reach. Other way would have had Him on One Knee. DON,t Know Really ?? Yet I Would Have fell those Trees The same Way he Did. For whatever Reason he felt he had To in that situation. My Thought on the Subject.
@@Sudz1911 In General I Would Wonder that Myself. Because that nature of plastic isn,t really for Solvents etc. Some of the Loggers on West Coast use the Idea. Outside what ya said Makes sense depending upon unless ya have your main Supply at Arms length. And Most of Time it's Not that close.
Working in a burn is dirty nasty work. I cut timber for years, bucking the tree is where the work and real skill comes in. Anyone can fall a tree, where it goes anybody knows 🤪
Around here you find a cutting outfit and see if they’ll take you on to learn the trade. A lot of folks learn the basics working for wildland fire fighting companies too
Nothing more annoying than a small white fir that's limb locked to a bigger one. Especially when they're burnt. Back barring with every cut is fuckin' tough though 💪🏽
@@jdavenport_photo see how the saw dust is blowing away from him. He is showing off using the "back bar" Bigger risk of kick back. If there were a viney maple or something sticking up and catch the tip of that bar it would throw the chain or kick back. And its harder on the saw. Hear how his saw is screaming but not going anyweare fast. Dog that Fuc#Er in.
@@1979kw kick back is what you wannabe loggers all talk about if you can run a saw correctly kickback is nonexistent you just cut and not worry about stupid things like that
@@lukeruggiero1894 wannabe logger?. Like the guy running the saw in the video. What you couldn't hack it on the rigging so you got a POS saw and started felling timber? With that saw wrapped out like that all the time bet your at the saw shop more than work
I Understand West Coast Guys DON,T file there Chains. They Change Them. They normally Bring at minimum 5 of them on a job. They Change them Out less time then to file a 32. 36 or a 40 inch Bar Chain. I Believe production is More There mindset.
I'm no logger but I have some experience cutting timber in the PNW. There's just no explaining how beautiful it is to be in it.
The sound of a chainsaw, the smell two stroke burning, and wood chips flying! It's a special place.
Great video! Stay safe!
Couldn't,t Agree more
Anyone who has run a saw day in and day out knows that there’s two sides of the bar. If you know what the hell you are doing, you can use either side efficiently and safely. Too many people on UA-cam get so concerned with seeing something that they perceive as unsafe and they want to call people out on it. I’ve been cutting professionally for 15 years and know how to do it safely. If you’ve never worked in the woods or been on the saw for six hours a day consistently, then you can’t really speak for the cutters out there then start telling them that they are doing something wrong or unsafe. I Backbar all the time in the appropriate situation. You cannot fall timber and constantly put yourself in the optimal standing position and stance. It’s just not feasible in real life situation that cutters face every single day. Also, I never like sawdust blowing directly in my face so if I have the opportunity to back bar, you better believe I will.
Well said! I would add that my experience with the 661 and lots of back bar issues/premature failures to include pto side bearing failure, av mounts, and most importantly intake boots….all of that should be addressed by stihl if they cared about working cutters! I have started installing gen1 boot’s that had the bellows still molded in….. #STIHL TAKE CARE OF YOUR CUTTERS!
Back bar all the time, why not?
I run saw on wildland fires and it’s perfectly ok to backbar. Sometimes it’s the safest way!
I back bar all the time I just don't tap the throttle every second like a hillbilly. First log he bucked he was making powder. Maybe instead of buying everything he can fit on his wedge belt he learns how to grind a chain.
What do you mean by backbar?
Dang it, that 661 just humming starting at 31 seconds 😍
Hey, Beavis, these guys kick ASS.
nice looking timber saws Stihl all the way be safe ..
great video! job to beat that sound, keep the videos coming!!
Great footage we're on the other side of the mountain logging the lionshead fire. Been at it for over a year. It's sad that much burned it was really beautiful country. But still wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
beautiful footage, thank you!
Nice video , super job , Mirek B. Czech Republic.
Amazing skill
Several minute video would be so great!
I wish I would have captured more video on that job but sadly, I didn’t.
Such a sick job but very deadly sometimes
Nice cutting are you looking for a cutter currently cutting behind a Clark 664 in northern Maine
I fell timber in B.C. for years back in the 70's. I never liked using the back bar technique. I liked to always set the dogs in the tree. Works for him but I only ask why?? The saw cuts better and faster while using the dogs...Comments???
I honestly couldn’t tell ya what his reasoning for it is. He doesn’t do it on every tree but what I can tell you is he’s one of the best timber fallers I’ve ever seen.
@@jdavenport_photo Yes he sure looks good with the saw. I just found is harder to get a level back cut with the back of the bar. When I broke in almost 50 years ago the Oldtimers would give you hell for that. Also very tiring. Good for him and his crew. Keep your head up and stay safe guys!
@@mikeuyeda2330 He might have used saws without a wrap handle for awhile and cutting with the back of the bar just comes naturally to him. It's nothing hard, with practice we can learn anything.
@@em4703 Yes but that does not necessarily mean it is a better technique. If it was a more effective method, why is it rarely seen
I can learn how to drive a car using both feet for the gas and brake but we all know that this is wrong!
@@jdavenport_photo He Is Part Of a Team. ," Gordy MIke. I Believe He didn,t use the Dogs because doing so would have buried the Bar Nose into the Other Tree in front of the One he was Cutting. Also I believe he back Barred this bringing the Saw up closer to his reach. Other way would have had Him on One Knee. DON,t Know Really ?? Yet I Would Have fell those Trees The same Way he Did. For whatever Reason he felt he had To in that situation. My Thought on the Subject.
lovely
Yessir I completely agree
it is awesome!
Thank you!
Subscribed.... nicely done sir 🤙🏻🪓😎🎃
Thank you!
Amazon Sound! Do you User the Bark BOX?
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That’s your first handmade handle in action there 🙌
Sounded like they hit stumps and splattered.
Sure wish we had forests like this on the east. Love the field but not trying to live in California or Oregon just for a job
You could always move to Washington lol
We're pretty full ;)
We could use the help
My thoughts Also
Suara nya menggelegar, cocok buat di hutan untuk menebang pohon
What kind of camera are you using to film this?
Nikon z7ii and Nikkor z 70-200 f/2.8 lens
Is his gatorade bottles full of fuel and oil? I like it
Piggies they Call them I believe.
YES fuel and Oil. Supply is Not Allways arms length.
I would be too worried about fuel eating plastic and it gumming up my fuel lines. Guess I'll give it a try
@@Sudz1911 In General I Would Wonder that Myself. Because that nature of plastic isn,t really for Solvents etc. Some of the Loggers on West Coast use the Idea. Outside what ya said Makes sense depending upon unless ya have your main Supply at Arms length. And Most of Time it's Not that close.
what does it mean when i hear local fallers say they "got there own numbers" to fall trees
As far as I know it means that they have their license and insurance and are cutting for themselves.
@@jdavenport_photo like an llc
@@chrissyburnett7499 yes
Log lengths mill wants them. May Be Wrong.
Ok I,m Now Corrected was wrong.
Working in a burn is dirty nasty work. I cut timber for years, bucking the tree is where the work and real skill comes in. Anyone can fall a tree, where it goes anybody knows 🤪
Leaving that bar bouncing? Wtf
How does someone get into this like of work??
Around here you find a cutting outfit and see if they’ll take you on to learn the trade. A lot of folks learn the basics working for wildland fire fighting companies too
Nothing more annoying than a small white fir that's limb locked to a bigger one. Especially when they're burnt.
Back barring with every cut is fuckin' tough though 💪🏽
He’s an animal!
What axe ?
4lbs stro
Swedish Gransfors bruks
Nice
Bad habits back baring everthing
Why? This is an honest question as I’m not a timber faller.
@@jdavenport_photo see how the saw dust is blowing away from him. He is showing off using the "back bar"
Bigger risk of kick back. If there were a viney maple or something sticking up and catch the tip of that bar it would throw the chain or kick back.
And its harder on the saw. Hear how his saw is screaming but not going anyweare fast.
Dog that Fuc#Er in.
@@1979kw kick back is what you wannabe loggers all talk about if you can run a saw correctly kickback is nonexistent you just cut and not worry about stupid things like that
@@lukeruggiero1894 ok kid do your thing.
@@lukeruggiero1894 wannabe logger?. Like the guy running the saw in the video.
What you couldn't hack it on the rigging so you got a POS saw and started felling timber? With that saw wrapped out like that all the time bet your at the saw shop more than work
Get this man a file smh
Why?
His chains dull lol 😆
@@whatmusiciwant ull learn eventually
@@whatmusiciwant 7 years and u still don't know shit
I Understand West Coast Guys DON,T file there Chains. They Change Them. They normally Bring at minimum 5 of them on a job. They Change them Out less time then to file a 32. 36 or a 40 inch Bar Chain. I Believe production is More There mindset.
Nice
Thanks