Battle of the Kalka River (1223) | Subutai and Jebe Vs Mstislav III

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  • @HistoricBattles
    @HistoricBattles  2 місяці тому +14

    Hi everyone, I hope you enjoy the video. If there are any topics you'd like to see covered that aren't here, let us know in the comments. We can then start a discussion on the subject. Don't forget to subscribe and like. See you in the next video⭐

    • @eberkovich
      @eberkovich 2 місяці тому +1

      Some parts of this battle were made up by you.

    • @oOIYvYIOo
      @oOIYvYIOo 2 місяці тому

      stop recreating history- Ukraine did not existed on those times. Rus yes.

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому

      so mentally limited. why you show modern ukrainian sign? there was no ukrainians that time. so mentally limited

    • @eberkovich
      @eberkovich 2 місяці тому

      @@eliotness4029 Idiot, this "UkraInian sign" was actually the sign of Kyivan rulers since the Volodymyr's days.

    • @codernov
      @codernov 2 місяці тому

      Bro. There was no ukraine back then, nor there was ukranian 3 pike symbol. If you go to wiki right now, and read it, and scroll down to sources cited, each source is a link to some magazine or newspaper printed in ukraine in the 1990s. In other words, it's made up. Just like ukraine itself is made up. Historically it was always Russia. Some parts of it were austra hungarian.

  • @vyatcheslavgrim1076
    @vyatcheslavgrim1076 2 місяці тому +31

    Kipchaks running away from Mongols in every battle.
    Mongols: WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 2 місяці тому +30

    Khwarazmian Empire was royally screwed in that war. They fought Genghis at the height of his power and he had many able generals. It's like dealing with Alexander the Great as he's pushing through Persia or the Roman Republic in the years after they had won the Second Punic War. At these moments, these leaders and their armies were like steamrollers.
    As you can see in the video, Genghis Khan could count on one of the most important things to have in your army: Good leaders that could be relied on to operate independently. Like Napoleon who had many generals and marshals that needed a tight leash and more direct control over them. But only a very few of them you could rely on to operate away from Napoleon's army and do well.
    Subutai was masterful in this campaign displaying diplomacy to divide his enemies, a strategic mind for the big picture, and a strong tactical mind when preparing and fighting his battles. Just look at the map and the sheer amount of territory that Subutai led his army through! In this campaign Subutai fought Central Asian steppe people, Islamic armies in the Middle East, and European knights.

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito 2 місяці тому +4

      At this stage, Jebe, as well as others had more command authority than Subedei (Subutai). Subutai was still relatively inexpereinced compared to Jebe Noyan.

    • @Fastcurrents
      @Fastcurrents 2 місяці тому +4

      Not like Alexander, way worse, more powerful and more organised than Alexander.

    • @Bahram2555
      @Bahram2555 2 місяці тому

      You mean Alex the delusional?

    • @aburoach9268
      @aburoach9268 2 місяці тому +1

      Kwarezm outnumbered Ghenghis his army 2 to 3 times actually and had many fortified cities, on top of that, they also had mameluke like cavalry that could fight similarly like the mongols using nomadic horse archer tactics, It's just their overall strategy and leadership was weak

    • @sonnycheeba4536
      @sonnycheeba4536 2 місяці тому

      @@ElBanditokey words “at this time” Subutai would become the GREATEST GENERAL of Genghis

  • @CollegeHistorian
    @CollegeHistorian 2 місяці тому +12

    The story telling and art in this channel is amazing. A true inspiration to small history youtubers like myself. Looking forward to your next video

  • @varunreddy8225
    @varunreddy8225 2 місяці тому +72

    No doubt, greatest army in human history

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 2 місяці тому +4

      Red Army 1945 would like to have a word

    • @bennruda11
      @bennruda11 2 місяці тому +3

      Meritocracy at its finest

    • @bennruda11
      @bennruda11 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@JDDC-tq7qmyou mean the army that lost millions upon millions of people? A pyrrhic victory is still a loss

    • @davidpham6221
      @davidpham6221 2 місяці тому +1

      Basically they had tier 3 and tier 4 troops and upgraded tactics when the rest of the world was tier 1 and tier 2 troops

    • @varunreddy8225
      @varunreddy8225 2 місяці тому +3

      @@JDDC-tq7qm no chance bro, even WW2 wars were so close battle ,not one sided like these mongol campaings

  • @Shtf132
    @Shtf132 2 місяці тому +14

    Hearing all of this how can one ever be happy, having not lived as a Mongol during the great Mongol conquests?

    • @nightdark2616
      @nightdark2616 2 місяці тому

      Same way we are happy not being part of the Nazi's or any other evil army in history.

    • @Bahram2555
      @Bahram2555 2 місяці тому +1

      Everyone who is not a savage barbarian and his ancestors were already civilized during that time is happy that can be called descendant of human kind and not some pathetic creatures .

    • @hansjorgkunde3772
      @hansjorgkunde3772 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Bahram2555 Even the Kievan Rus thought they were sent by god to punish them for their sins. Who is here pathetic ?

    • @Bahram2555
      @Bahram2555 2 місяці тому

      @@hansjorgkunde3772 Mongols

    • @DavidAdeyemi-vn9vc
      @DavidAdeyemi-vn9vc 2 місяці тому

      @@hansjorgkunde3772facts they literally saw them as gods punishment

  • @poonhound9377
    @poonhound9377 2 місяці тому +2

    Amazing video, I was immersed from beginning to end. Subscribed

  • @ZgO_o
    @ZgO_o 2 місяці тому +7

    Mongols were like a punishment of God for people of that time until they were defeated in Egypt, they had tasted a small defeat in modern day Afghanistan but after their defeat in Egypt mongols slowly withered away. If only they had continued their unity then i believe the whole of Europe and Asia would have fallen

    • @hansjorgkunde3772
      @hansjorgkunde3772 2 місяці тому +3

      They conquered China and were domesticated.

    • @elvice3262
      @elvice3262 2 місяці тому +1

      Lol it's a small defeat against the mamliks they were just 10,000, the mamliks brought back all of Egypt

    • @Beyondme488
      @Beyondme488 Місяць тому

      10000 ? , u sure ? ​@@elvice3262

  • @PhillyFaithful93
    @PhillyFaithful93 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s mind blowing that neither the Islamic or Christian armies could stand a chance against the Mongols for the longest time. Mongols has their way with whomever they wanted.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 2 місяці тому +5

    I believe Bukhara was taken before Samarkand during Chinggis' invasion of the Khwarezmian Empire. He wraped northwards around a desert and flanked the Khwarezmid defense line.

    • @LeMoN-vb4pe
      @LeMoN-vb4pe 2 місяці тому +2

      Genghis did mongol blitzkrieg

  • @kyrgyzsanjar
    @kyrgyzsanjar 2 місяці тому +1

    Got yourself a subscriber here bro! Forge ahead!

  • @nightmoon4832
    @nightmoon4832 2 місяці тому +21

    The mongols were unstoppable during there time very scary I’m curious if they never collapsed would Europe have the man power to overpower the mongols

    • @doruk2025-n5l
      @doruk2025-n5l 2 місяці тому +5

      The Great Seljuks had collapsed. A small part of them, the Anatolian Seljuks, was experiencing internal turmoil. The first serious power they encountered was the Mamluk Sultan Baybars, to whom they were defeated, and he was also of Turkish origin. After this defeat, the Mongols entered a period of decline. In summary, the Mongols did not face a significant enemy, which made their progress easy. In Europe, things could have been easier. Central Europe consists of flat plains and numerous rivers, meaning there wouldn't be a shortage of food for their horses. The flat terrain would make cities vulnerable to siege. I think that European generals would avoid open-field battles and instead fight the Mongols in forests or mountainous areas. Unlike flatlands, forests limit the horses' maneuverability and provide cover. Moreover, in hand-to-hand combat, the Mongols wouldn't hold an advantage, as seen in Japan. greeting from. 3. gokturk kaganate.

    • @luckychristiangaleos3105
      @luckychristiangaleos3105 2 місяці тому

      Lol we are talking about the zenith of power by the mongols it wasn't subutai and Genghis khan whom baybars defeated the mongols were really unstoppable Genghis Khan could easily conquer all of middle east had he proceeded, the mongol whom baybars defeated was the divided empire of the mongol after the death of ogodei the son of Genghis Egypt would be obliterated if the entire mongol army would attack it at same time the army whom baybars defeated was just a stroke of luck and just a fraction of the of the mongol army had the empire did not divided Egypt would turn to rubble nobody could stop really the mongols during subutais campaign he defeated all those who attempted to block them the one baybars defeated was the ilkhanate mongol part of the divided original empire@@doruk2025-n5l

    • @vladimiropacic2795
      @vladimiropacic2795 2 місяці тому

      Flat lands yes but Balkan was not conqered

    • @odenat3701
      @odenat3701 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@doruk2025-n5lWhat about China, Kharezm. Russia? Were these no serious power? And when mongols attacks Eastern Europe, they divided their army in two. They destroyed Polish/German and Hungarian armies at the same day! Hungarians were the best cavalry of the europe by the way.

    • @ВосточныйВетер-р6ь
      @ВосточныйВетер-р6ь 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@doruk2025-n5lБейбарас выиграл сражение с небольшим войскам монголов,сейчас тюрские историки стараются переписывать историю под себя😊

  • @REDWOLF.55
    @REDWOLF.55 2 місяці тому +3

    Jebe noyan was the most daring and ferocious general who introduced the Mongols most effective move the FEIGNED RETREAT ❤

    • @Boric78
      @Boric78 2 місяці тому

      FEIGNED RETREAT was invented thousands of years before on the Steppe. It is first recorded being used by the Scythians against the Persian Darius in 513 BCE. But it would have been used much earlier. Possibly as far back as the Sintashta culture, as they invented the Chariot and mounted warfare, as far back as 2000 BCE. But that is conjecture and we have no evidence for that.

    • @REDWOLF.55
      @REDWOLF.55 2 місяці тому

      @@Boric78
      But the Mongols were absolutely not historians as far as I know JEBE used this tactic in Leo Yang city and the TATARS used the same trick against Genghis in Gobi desert

    • @Boric78
      @Boric78 2 місяці тому

      @@REDWOLF.55 If you live on the steppe and fight on a horse you know this tactic. I am sure Jebe was a great commander, whilst he was no Subutai very few were or have been. Bottom line - Jebe did not invent this and you needn't be a historian to know this. A feigned retreat was as instinctive to the Mongols as drinking mares milk.

    • @baywillprevail
      @baywillprevail 2 місяці тому

      @@Boric78 according to Genghis himself, Jebe is better commander than Subutai, that's why Jebe was commanding officer and Jebe was accompying officer.

    • @rainnyday7614
      @rainnyday7614 2 місяці тому

      Jebel is a military stratactic teacher of Subutai

  • @mangoandguavafruitsmoothie4352
    @mangoandguavafruitsmoothie4352 2 місяці тому

    Very nice. Subscribed.

  • @tweeboonKVK
    @tweeboonKVK 2 місяці тому +1

    That part at 17:31 when the Mongols spring their trap is sick and metal af. Anyone know what song was that?

  • @canadaey4833
    @canadaey4833 2 місяці тому +1

    great video

  • @زنكي
    @زنكي 2 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @denizonder6395
    @denizonder6395 2 місяці тому +1

    Very nice video History King

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 2 місяці тому

    Nicely done video

  • @ComradeBeria
    @ComradeBeria 2 місяці тому +1

    Why you marked Russians with blue yellow colors?

  • @christopherthrawn1333
    @christopherthrawn1333 2 місяці тому

    Excellent work here

  • @আল্লাহরবান্দারাসূলুল্লাহএরউম্ম

    Plz make one about battle of ain jalut

  • @Roshini-q5d
    @Roshini-q5d 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you make a video about 30 years?

  • @bastadimasta
    @bastadimasta 2 місяці тому +9

    Subutai was the greates general in history.

    • @kohtalainenalias
      @kohtalainenalias 2 місяці тому

      Not much is known of him :/

    • @bastadimasta
      @bastadimasta 2 місяці тому +5

      @@kohtalainenalias all of his campaigns are known.

    • @User_47536
      @User_47536 2 місяці тому +1

      Greatest*
      And that is your opinion

    • @bastadimasta
      @bastadimasta 2 місяці тому +2

      @@User_47536 tell me another general more successful in his campaigns.

    • @sustainablelivelihoods4219
      @sustainablelivelihoods4219 2 місяці тому

      @@bastadimastanone of

  • @sl6706
    @sl6706 2 місяці тому +2

    The ck3 faces are on point.

  • @gabrielwense3506
    @gabrielwense3506 2 місяці тому

    Those are ck3 portraits?

  • @Victoryofthepast
    @Victoryofthepast Місяць тому

    good video

  • @gemuruhpratama8100
    @gemuruhpratama8100 2 місяці тому +2

    The first leasson in battling the mongol: never pursue them

    • @hansjorgkunde3772
      @hansjorgkunde3772 2 місяці тому

      the second, get long Speers like a phalanx or pikes. Get some shields against the arrows and get some artillery. Yeah too early for that *sigh*

    • @AmirSatt
      @AmirSatt 2 місяці тому

      mongol adversaries had to lose 100 times before learning this lesson

  • @Sticna78
    @Sticna78 2 місяці тому

    can u cover battle of kulikovo 1380 ?

  • @kanatzhumagulov8910
    @kanatzhumagulov8910 2 місяці тому +2

    didn't Subutai and his army also fight with Volga Bulgars on their way back before joining the main Mongol army with Genghiz Khan?

  • @siawosh
    @siawosh 2 місяці тому

    How do you know the correct name? Kudos.

  • @csabaszep8162
    @csabaszep8162 2 місяці тому

    You'd think that after a while people would have learned not to mess with Mongol envoys.

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 2 місяці тому +1

    To think this battle happened 800 years ago in current wartorn Ukraine.

  • @TheTarihpk
    @TheTarihpk 2 місяці тому +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @RosierJulio
    @RosierJulio 2 місяці тому +1

    Massss

  • @BeybladeTürkiye321
    @BeybladeTürkiye321 2 місяці тому

    Harp Tarihi abi senmisin

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 2 місяці тому

    "It's just a bunch of little guys on ponies. I don't see how they could hurt us-...OH GOD!!! OH GOD NO!!!!" - Pretty much everybody the Mongols ran into in the 13th Century

  • @cba2make1up
    @cba2make1up 2 місяці тому

    I thought it's a CK3 video because of the thumbnail 😭

  • @ks-qu4kj
    @ks-qu4kj 2 місяці тому

    trust me - Im a Mongol, we wont hurt you...

  • @aumelb
    @aumelb 2 місяці тому

    You have a lot of cities on your map that didn't exist at the time you are describing.

  • @JDDC-tq7qm
    @JDDC-tq7qm 2 місяці тому

    Fun fact; The Mongols got defeated by the Circasians in 1237 making sure not all of Russia getting subjugated by Mongols

    • @EnerelBayar-l3c
      @EnerelBayar-l3c Місяць тому

      Circassians defeated by Mongols and annexed by them

  • @JDDC-tq7qm
    @JDDC-tq7qm 2 місяці тому

    Fun fact : Mongols got defeated by the Circassians so not all of Russia got subjugated by Mongols

  • @cocodog85
    @cocodog85 2 місяці тому +3

    hmmm....the ukes have been getting their asses kicked for a 1000 years. and now again by the rooskies. the ukes just don't seem to smarten up.

    • @alexavric3426
      @alexavric3426 Місяць тому +1

      At that time it was Russians, what you are refering to Ukes, just means u Kraina, basicly "borderlands"... so before becoming nation Ukraina was borderlands of what ?? In last 500years there was Russian , Ottoman and Austrian empires, and land of present day Ukraine was where this 3 empires ware bordered more or less for 400 years. Im from different "Krajina" , but im not of any kraina nationality.. its almost ridiculous as when someone say "kosovo" nationality, not knowing that full name Kosovo polje I Metohia means "land of blackbrds and monasteries" So today we are told we have nation of Borderlanders and "belong to blackbrids" .. fantastic :P

  • @parsman9914
    @parsman9914 2 місяці тому

    Georgia was larger than it is on this map.

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 2 місяці тому

    👍👍👍

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 2 місяці тому +2

    It's an excellent video 📹
    For 300 years , rhe Russian peoples would be slaves to the Tatars.

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому +1

      Russian peoples would be slaves to the Tatars.
      and ukrainian people slaves to the Polish-Lithvanians

    • @patricofritz4094
      @patricofritz4094 2 місяці тому

      Eastern Russian people became slave to mongol tatars . Western Russian people ( modern Ukraine and Belarus) became slave to the Lithuanian and polish

    • @The_Wild_World
      @The_Wild_World 2 місяці тому

      ​@@eliotness4029Russians were not slaves, the Ukrainians have not existed. What are Ukrainians?

    • @hansjorgkunde3772
      @hansjorgkunde3772 2 місяці тому

      @@eliotness4029 there were no Ukrainians back then. It were Ruthenians.

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому

      @@hansjorgkunde3772 there were no Ukrainians back then. and soon too. all running away. in canada and australia

  • @kohtalainenalias
    @kohtalainenalias 2 місяці тому

    God of War greatly favores mongols :)

  • @Heinrich96
    @Heinrich96 2 місяці тому

    It's Kiev. Not "Kyviv"

  • @UgandanWarriorofHell
    @UgandanWarriorofHell 2 місяці тому

    ukraine flag behind mystislav ICANT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @emanesmaeli2965
    @emanesmaeli2965 2 місяці тому

    So genghiz was not important. Subuti was

  • @tsk-meteakabruceleekills1311
    @tsk-meteakabruceleekills1311 2 місяці тому +3

    20:19 the right term nowadays would be turkomongols....Turks made nearly 60 % in the army....the leaders were mongols....

    • @EnerelBayar-l3c
      @EnerelBayar-l3c Місяць тому

      Lil bro stop with your daily dream At least get proper education system why you Turks always claim our history are you obsessed with our history?😂

  • @RR-pc7yv
    @RR-pc7yv 2 місяці тому

    Map of the Indian Subcontinent is incorrect....

  • @msbudmsbud7593
    @msbudmsbud7593 2 місяці тому

    Kipchaks were Turks too !

  • @sparido422
    @sparido422 2 місяці тому

    the Kievan Rus is not Russian. It was Ukrainian.

  • @AhmedKhan-zq4pc
    @AhmedKhan-zq4pc 2 місяці тому

    How India Defeated Mongols series?

    • @klausrainherz4605
      @klausrainherz4605 2 місяці тому +3

      They were Delhi Sultan Turks, not Indians

    • @AhmedKhan-zq4pc
      @AhmedKhan-zq4pc 2 місяці тому

      @@klausrainherz4605 Another History Stealer....only Mamloks was Turks.... Khiljis And Lodhis was Afghan ...Tughlaq was also Mongol,...Sayyid was Arab Origin......Later Mughals was also Mongols.....No Türk in India,

    • @klausrainherz4605
      @klausrainherz4605 2 місяці тому +2

      @@AhmedKhan-zq4pc Delhi sultana is Turkish. there were Indian states like yadava and hoysala. Later, Genghis Khan's cousin, Timur's grandson from the Barlus tribe, conquered India and established the Mughal or Mongolian state. At this time, the Indians, who united India for the first time, should thank the Mongols and the Turks. Mongols and Turks are brothers from the Xiongnu.

    • @AhmedKhan-zq4pc
      @AhmedKhan-zq4pc 2 місяці тому

      @@klausrainherz4605 Why you told that things like a lesson.... Türk Steal History...I know all that things....India was united several times.... In Maurya Empire & Delhi Sultanate India was united.....lmao Delhi Sultanate was not a single dynasty there was five Dynasties out of which only one was Turk ....Why you adjusting Turks in India 😂.... Türk are number one in history stealing.... Although there all DNA 🧬 is Mongol,Greek and Persian 😂

    • @lifeneverends7068
      @lifeneverends7068 2 місяці тому

      Indians😂they cannot even fight against bunch of brits!

  • @The.Alchemist-d2v
    @The.Alchemist-d2v 2 місяці тому

    Bro literally stole someone else’s work and used his own voiceover…

    • @HistoricBattles
      @HistoricBattles  2 місяці тому

      We work with the UA-cam channel you mentioned. We don't publicise it to avoid any confusion for our audience.

  • @RosierJulio
    @RosierJulio 2 місяці тому +1

    Otro

  • @cezarysudol
    @cezarysudol 2 місяці тому

    It was allright, this presentation.
    Apart for poor english here and there and some curiosities like bags of powder acting as granades thrown by Mongols at Rus army. I think in 1223 it was bit too early for that kind of weapon in Tsubudai's arsenal. Later, under Ogedai and especially Kyblai after much fighting with Sun China Mongols migh have that kind of weapon, but not during this weatern trek.
    Also I doubt that the combined army of Rus and Kipchak was as big as 80K. Half of that would be more likely, if that, and even then most of the army would have been been poorly trained and even worse equipped infantry made out of pressed in serfs. A very worst kind of troopes to face higly mobile, disciplined, expeirenced and motivated Mongols. On top of that Rus might have fielded hundreds of well armored but slow mounted knights, which number would be more in keeping with early XIII century European standards. Other mounted troopers would be Kipchak, the only ones able to match speed of Mongols, but certainly not as disciplined and well led, and on top of that demoralised and decimated after suffering earlier defeats by Tsubodai.
    All in all, especially after letting the Mongols choose the place of battle, the end was never in question.

  • @fendrou
    @fendrou 2 місяці тому

    Says Russians but shows Ukrainians

  • @hussainabdulla127
    @hussainabdulla127 2 місяці тому

    YOUR HISTORICAL MAPS ARE NOT ACCURATE.

  • @eliotness4029
    @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому +2

    so mentally limited. why you show modern ukrainian sign? there was no ukrainians that time. so mentally limited

    • @АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д
      @АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д 2 місяці тому +1

      Have you spent some time to google coat of arms of Kievan Rus before writing that? So mentally limited..

    • @patricofritz4094
      @patricofritz4094 2 місяці тому

      No thar's overstated plus the coat of arms of the rurikids were not in that color at that time so this guy is kinda right .​@@АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д

    • @АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д
      @АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д 2 місяці тому

      ​@@patricofritz4094 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbols_of_the_Rurikids well that looks pretty similar to me. You have other sources?

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому

      @@АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д there was no ukrainians that time. ukrainians were slaves in Polan-Lithvanian Kingdom

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 2 місяці тому

      @@АндрейБовсуновский-ы1д you do search in current ukrainian sources? so mentally limited. as nobody else

  • @nixofortune
    @nixofortune 2 місяці тому

    Why do you keep calling Kyiv as Russian territory? It's nothing to do with Russia and never was. This simple to fix fact ruins the whole video. Today when Russia attacks Ukraine, the land once known as Kievan Rus and Moscow didn't even exist, to say that this land is a Russian land sounds like a Moscow propaganda. Just call them Rus, Slavs but not russians . Please fix

  • @drd4059
    @drd4059 2 місяці тому +1

    This is NOT russian history. Muscovy was still a moose pasture. Kyiv is Ukrainian.

  • @matf5593
    @matf5593 2 місяці тому

    酢豚?
    中華料理は美味いな😊

  • @giorgiandguladze6707
    @giorgiandguladze6707 2 місяці тому

    Your maps are terrible. Not a single one is correct

  • @hirschelv
    @hirschelv 2 місяці тому

    They were russians, no kieven.

    • @aumelb
      @aumelb 2 місяці тому +1

      Kyiv was destroyed by Mongols.

  • @damianlakomski4661
    @damianlakomski4661 2 місяці тому +3

    Rus.... not ruZZian. Kurwa change it. There were any ruZZian yet. XVI century not before.

    • @JDDC-tq7qm
      @JDDC-tq7qm 2 місяці тому +3

      KievanRus was formed in modern day Russia Vladimir, Novgorod, Circassia, Alans are part of Russia learn geography and history kid😂

    • @The_Wild_World
      @The_Wild_World 2 місяці тому +6

      Russians are the Rus people. What happened in 16th? They emerged out of thin air?😂😂😂

    • @mamulaavto
      @mamulaavto 2 місяці тому

      @@The_Wild_WorldRus was the name of eastern slavs that consisted of modern Ukrainians, Russians and Belorussians. It was predecessor of all these modern nations and not a single nation can claim to be single inheritor.
      Claiming Russia to be only Russians would be same as Germanic tribes to be called as only German. Goths, Franks, Angles, Saxons and many more. Claiming all of those to be German sounds as ridiculous as Rus to be only Russian.
      Kievan rus was mostly inhabited by part of Rus that are most related to modern day Ukrainians. The language they used and manuscripts of that time can easily be read in Ukrainian and are far more distant from Russian language.

    • @The_Wild_World
      @The_Wild_World 2 місяці тому

      @@mamulaavto the greater part of ancient Rus extended into the northwest Russia. Furthermore the Rus emerged in modern northwest Russia. Russians are the only direct descendants of the Rus people. The Russians survived Mongolian invasion and saved part of territory of ancient Rus where as so to speak ukranians(oppressed russians) lost everything and were for the most time oppressed by Poland and Lithuania right until the moment Russians liberated their land and later created the ukraine state. The latter was a blunder.

    • @mamulaavto
      @mamulaavto 2 місяці тому

      @@The_Wild_World Then how come Kievan Rus manuscript are easily read in Ukrainian language and very distant from Russian language?

  • @NathanKefyalew
    @NathanKefyalew 2 місяці тому +2

    Kiyvan russ is not russian...it is ukraine don't distort history😊