Hardly fair on Joyce - he flattened Parker, who thoroughly outworked and outhustled Zhang through 12. Styles make fights, and Zhang made Joyce into an old man.
@@PunishedRalph Joyce has always been a size & work rate bully and got found out this fight - Zhang came up during the point scoring system in the amateurs so he had to learn skill - Joyce will never be able to beat someone his size with skill. However Joyce will always beat someone smaller with no gas tank
Howard foster jumping in when Joyce was stunned in round two was ANOTHER case of absolute bias from him. Guy is either a terrible ref or corrupt as they come.
Joyce did a lot with minimal talent. Wins over dubois and parker also fought zhang and chisora. Not too bad. But zhang is a stylistic nightmare for slow heavyweights.
Absolutely no head movement from Joyce, like what was being said to this man in the corner? No one could have relayed to him that his head was right on the line all night
What! Wilder will put that dude to sleep. A coma. Zhang is too slow to stay away from Wilder's hammering straight right. Especially in later rounds, Zhang has no stamina to fight off Wilder. If this Zhang/Joyce fight continued, Joyce would win on the scorecards. Zhang was barely moving and that was only the 6th round. Zhang, as a professional, he should get himself in better shape.
Zhang is a 4 round fighter and it showed even in the first fight. Joyce has to stop moving to the right and straight into Zhangs power hand and lead hooks. Just that simple change in tactics could be a game changer. Regardless, it should be a heck of a fight and I expect it to be more competitive but also more dramatic.
Something most coach won't say unless you pay is, it's not wrong to go either side. You move according to how you feel that's right at the moment. Do you really think that just moving to the left will solve everything against a southpaw? The only thing that will show is how predictable you are. You either eat the left or the right depending on how you move. Zhang has a nice right hook, so at the end it wouldn't matter. Also I'm sure Zhang would be ready if Joyce chose to move left, let's face it he's not very elusive.
Joyce game plan was better in the 2 fight what kill him was coming whit that extra weight he was to slow cause of that he didn't have no movement he should come whit the same weight he came 1 first fight but whit the game plan of the 2 fight
@EugenioRodriguez-rr7nw I still think he gets smoked. He could've waited for Zhang to gas out, and then Joyce could've put in work. Bad night for Joe, feel for him.
Joe Joyce did not change anything, the same moving train style, with no defence at all. He paid Ishmel Salah and his team for nothing. What a waste of time and money! Only four good boxers this era: Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua.
Joyce doesn’t have the skill set of a veteran fighter like Zhang, I think a lot of fighters will have his number now - Joshua, Whyte, Hrgovic, etc. Wilder would have him out in a couple of rounds max
@@OriginalNuttah93 It definitely wasn't a robbery. I think people are just saying it because they heard it was a robbery from others, but never watched the entire fight themselves. Hrgovic was consistent, but Zhang was fatigued the second half of the fight.
@TravisJuniorMills1315 No Travis, I'm not a racist. I like Joyce as a person and I admire his durability. I have nothing personal against Zhang. He seems humble and businesslike. That said, both are old and both are very slow. Usyk and Fury seem way better than their rivals and I'm no fan of Fury. Too much talk for my liking. The division is currently weak in my opinion. As for WWE, leave that to primary school children. Olympic wrestling however and MMA are great sports.
Joyce looks like a plodder, predictable, no head movement, weak punching power for HW. Definately not a top level fighter in the current weak HW scene. Boring to watch.
Now we can see better how Filip Hrgović El Animal deserved victory vs Zhilei Zhang and how Filip Hrgović is good fighter!! Bravo for Croatian Lion Filip Hrgović and for Zhilei Zhang and Joe Joyce, for all three fighters ❤
Dont see how joyce beets him in the rematch...all he can do is blast away from the first bell...think Zhang has his number...and i like joyce, he a good no great role model...but joyce should of had a tune up first.
I know it's a win,but if I was a boxer,I wouldn't celebrate winning due to a swollen eye.and why were they fighting so soft? It seemed like playfighting.
tnx for the upload
Zhang is nice, like to see him vs. Tyson Fury..
Yeah I agree would love him to be furby senseless
This is what happens when you fight someone with skill lol
Hardly fair on Joyce - he flattened Parker, who thoroughly outworked and outhustled Zhang through 12.
Styles make fights, and Zhang made Joyce into an old man.
@@PunishedRalph Joyce has always been a size & work rate bully and got found out this fight - Zhang came up during the point scoring system in the amateurs so he had to learn skill - Joyce will never be able to beat someone his size with skill. However Joyce will always beat someone smaller with no gas tank
@@lauliitaula4142 Joyce also had a very long and succesful amateur career tbf
Joyce looks as if hes never fought a southpaw before, came out and immediately stars moving to his right instead of left 😮
thx 4 the upload ❤
Seriously joe joyce boxes like he’s in slow motion .
First time I've seen Joyce look small... And zhang throws some fast punches for a big guy.
Yeah he really does
Hes got welterweight level speed in his hands.
His hands are still fast, but he used to move really well in the amateurs. But as he grew older, he got fat and flatfooted.
Helps that Joyce is slug slow
Alongside the speed is a venom & intent with each punch.
Which was lacking from Joe. As the commentators remarked in the fight.
at the end I could hardly tell who was the Chinese boxer... respect to both fighters, great fight
Joyce is no doubt a gentleman，and he has won the respect of the Chinese
This is what happens when you take some one on who can fight back 😂
Yes most heavy weights can't fight back😩
No defensive skills, stayed in the line of fire, blocked the punches with his face 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A rare occurrence in heavyweight boxing these days 😢
Idk, I´d say Parker, Takam, Jennings and even Dubois are pretty good wins. Stop acting as if Zhang was the first decent boxer he faced.
And Stiverne@@SuperCrazyEstonian
Zhang won silver in 2008 Olympics I wish this man didn’t have health issues through his career :/
I don't think Joe Joyce was prepared for a southpaw with a big reach. Most of his jabs were blocked while normally quite effective puch.
Its hard to land a jab against a southpaw. Especially when they have a reach advantage!
You do know they both have the same reach right?
You do know they both have the same reach right?
They both are equal tall fighters with similar reach , that's true, but Joe had no reach advantage like in most of his other fights
Howard foster jumping in when Joyce was stunned in round two was ANOTHER case of absolute bias from him. Guy is either a terrible ref or corrupt as they come.
Can't let the image of the juggernaut destroyed.
You mean when Zhang was pulling on Joyce’s head? Yea, that’s illegal. Foreman used to get warned for that too.
Joyce did a lot with minimal talent. Wins over dubois and parker also fought zhang and chisora. Not too bad. But zhang is a stylistic nightmare for slow heavyweights.
Zhang can csuse alot of upsets. Give him usyk!
Joyce gotta move and know it's not play time.
the first round punch stats, at 4:43 R2 0.21 seconds
Joyce is brilliant at blocking punches...with his face!
Are they playing tig tak😮
Anyone knows how to remove the slowmotion eftect?
zhang when the straight left comes out
Quality upload …cheers 🥊
It looks like joyce has 0 power
Absolutely no head movement from Joyce, like what was being said to this man in the corner? No one could have relayed to him that his head was right on the line all night
look he stands square who the hell does that
Super walka 🥊
That was an easy win!
Hell nah
Yo wsp with your UA-cam name man 😐
This ain't 1080p.
Bomba Zhang el terror del uppercut 💪💪💪💪💪💪👏👏👏👏🐉🇨🇳👌😜🙏
Good scrap. Thanks for posting.
Going with Juggernaut by SD in the rematch.
The best Chinese heavy I have ever seen. And I believe he will beat anyone. I hope Joesh Parker had seen this fight and how to fight like this guy.
JJ is moving on the right that where he met ZZ left..
Wilder vs Zhang would be lit
What! Wilder will put that dude to sleep. A coma. Zhang is too slow to stay away from Wilder's hammering straight right. Especially in later rounds, Zhang has no stamina to fight off Wilder. If this Zhang/Joyce fight continued, Joyce would win on the scorecards. Zhang was barely moving and that was only the 6th round. Zhang, as a professional, he should get himself in better shape.
Lol Joyce had no chance
@@benthekeeshond545LIT🔥
That's what I was thinking, but I'd also like to see Zhang and Fury
@@benthekeeshond545haha look at what you were dumb saying, you are a joke 😂
Zhang is a 4 round fighter and it showed even in the first fight.
Joyce has to stop moving to the right and straight into Zhangs power hand and lead hooks. Just that simple change in tactics could be a game changer.
Regardless, it should be a heck of a fight and I expect it to be more competitive but also more dramatic.
Something most coach won't say unless you pay is, it's not wrong to go either side. You move according to how you feel that's right at the moment. Do you really think that just moving to the left will solve everything against a southpaw? The only thing that will show is how predictable you are. You either eat the left or the right depending on how you move. Zhang has a nice right hook, so at the end it wouldn't matter. Also I'm sure Zhang would be ready if Joyce chose to move left, let's face it he's not very elusive.
Yikes lol, looks like Zhang was the one who made the right changes
Joyce game plan was better in the 2 fight what kill him was coming whit that extra weight he was to slow cause of that he didn't have no movement he should come whit the same weight he came 1 first fight but whit the game plan of the 2 fight
@EugenioRodriguez-rr7nw I still think he gets smoked. He could've waited for Zhang to gas out, and then Joyce could've put in work. Bad night for Joe, feel for him.
@ponage1000 yeah but I think I would be more competitive than it was
Алекс. Китайский боксёр наносил удары, а Джойс поводил сеанс массажа и нежного поглаживания. В их следующей встрече ничего не поменяется.
Zhang is a beast
Joe Joyce did not change anything, the same moving train style, with no defence at all. He paid Ishmel Salah and his team for nothing. What a waste of time and money! Only four good boxers this era: Fury, Usyk, Wilder and Joshua.
Seen better action at the corner store 😂
Good to see they had no tatoos
Always good to see no tattoos .. on anybody- specially women 🙄🤨
❤@@serenityinside1❤ 7:01
Yes like Croatian fighter Filip Hrgović El Animal ♥️🇭🇷
who gives a shit?
Agreed. However, Joyce has an Olympic tattoo on his bicep.
Joyce knocks him out round 8 2nd fight
Joyce took a beating.
Joyce doesn’t have the skill set of a veteran fighter like Zhang, I think a lot of fighters will have his number now - Joshua, Whyte, Hrgovic, etc. Wilder would have him out in a couple of rounds max
Non of these guys are near Furry and Wilder
Zhang and Wilder, or Zhang vs. Fury would be good to watch, you gotta admit that...
Joyce was tailor made for someone like Zhang
Zhang got robbed in his last fight anyways he deserved this one
Did you watch the fight back? If not you should cos I thought the same thing but it turns out it wasn't a robbery at all
@@OriginalNuttah93 It definitely wasn't a robbery. I think people are just saying it because they heard it was a robbery from others, but never watched the entire fight themselves. Hrgovic was consistent, but Zhang was fatigued the second half of the fight.
@@MrBri0523 precisely! There's a new breed of "casual" fan these days but they don't even watch boxing
I thought I had it on slow mo for a minute watching Joyce punch...........
joe shall win next fight , but sorry joe you a mile away from being champ
and old too
Zhang is the dragon warrior.
ive backed Joe Joyce at very tasty odds. Yet he really isn't that good. hoping next time Zhilei Zhang will tire . Got to take him to the later rounds.
37 and 39 yrs old. Window of opportunity closing for both
zhang is at least 42.
Francis Ngannou should face this guy 🔥
Nganou was invited, but he was afraid so didn’t make it on 23,Dec
Sounds silly but if it wasn't for the eye damage Joyce couldv'e won. I think Zhang's gas tank was about done.
Fury and Usyk are sitting on a weak era. This fights proves it. Two top ranked guys, both very old and very very slow.
Most definitely
Zhang has quick hands for a 19 stone man. Technically also good.
@TravisJuniorMills1315 No Travis, I'm not a racist. I like Joyce as a person and I admire his durability. I have nothing personal against Zhang. He seems humble and businesslike. That said, both are old and both are very slow. Usyk and Fury seem way better than their rivals and I'm no fan of Fury. Too much talk for my liking. The division is currently weak in my opinion. As for WWE, leave that to primary school children. Olympic wrestling however and MMA are great sports.
Joyce looks like a plodder, predictable, no head movement, weak punching power for HW. Definately not a top level fighter in the current weak HW scene. Boring to watch.
Zhang is slow!?
Joyce the plodder and his low power jab is not a top 15 HW boxer.😡😡
Zhang's cutwoman is fine as hell.
The chinese fella was getting really tired since round 5 tho
He has a name.
Joyce can't win because he's very very slow to move..he must improve his speed that's the one I've observe for all his fight.
After talking shit about Aj then this happens and the second fight same shit breaks his chin ko and know he’s fighting a bum who’s 300 in the world
Joe is fighting like a woman.
Lol even as a Joyce fan, this was funny.
What has happened to 🥊 use to be get in come out overwhelm get the job done and get out for next fight waiting for a punch its stupid
Joy joyce just taking punches with no dodge skills
big bang zhang beat him so easy lol
It was easy work for Zhang
Emmmm should have moved his head silly boy.
Joe Joyce's technique is terrible!
Coi tyson đánh xong coi mấy thằng lậi này đánh buồn ngủ...,
Джойс уныло однообразен .Человек на перфокарте.Будет получать и всё равно будет делать одно и то же . Необучаем.
Joe quá vụng về chậm chạp
Now we can see better how Filip Hrgović El Animal deserved victory vs Zhilei Zhang and how Filip Hrgović is good fighter!! Bravo for Croatian Lion Filip Hrgović and for Zhilei Zhang and Joe Joyce, for all three fighters ❤
Joyce is box turtle .
And left hand wow
Китайцы наши буряты
ZHANG BERTANDING WAJAH NYA HAMPIR TANPA LUKA. HANYA SEDIKIT MEMARR
Joe comes across as a really nice guy but sorry, he must be the slowest heavyweight in history and should quit before he gets really hurt.
Dont see how joyce beets him in the rematch...all he can do is blast away from the first bell...think Zhang has his number...and i like joyce, he a good no great role model...but joyce should of had a tune up first.
Joyce can beet him lol he just needs to buy some beets.
Beat* btw
Joyce aged overnight his legs are gone
He got hurt early and didn't look like he was able to fully recover
Chameleon joyce
only Hrgovic and Fury can knock out Zhang. all the other boxers are just toys for Zhang
Someone told me that Joyce is verry good bokser but i check fight and he cant move, wtf is his normal skill ir he got paralized by getting scared
Joyce was humble in defeat.Can't but admire that despite the crushing loss.
Joe looks to small
I know it's a win,but if I was a boxer,I wouldn't celebrate winning due to a swollen eye.and why were they fighting so soft? It seemed like playfighting.
You are one casual mf
It SEEMED like, it wasn't!!!
Certainly not from Zhang!
He smashed Joyce's face in!
👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!
Zhang is good but unfortunately he's an 18-wheeler what a Toyota Corolla gas tank😂
JJ is too stiff lol
Both these guys look slow and unathletic.
just the referee's stop, Joyce could only have done worse
I wonder if Joyce's corner had a rubber glove filled with water ..
The jungle
明顯是假拳
Joyce is like watching a fucking corpse fight..except a corpse has more movement
Quit boxing joe...there's always strictly