Walking the London loop with John Rogers, a splendid way to spend a rainy afternoon, coming as I do from rural Wales, I'm amazed at the amount of green spaces there is around London! Thanks again.
An excellent video as always. I have worked in Borehamwood a number of times and done a number of walks in and around the town. But I have never ventured down Arkley Lane, I will pencil that in for my next visit.
Thank you so much for the memories! I played for Cockfosters nearly 30 years ago and have moved internationally many times since. So, it is wonderful to revisit what was a place of great charm during my youth.
Thanks for sharing your walk, I always keep an eye out for the whalebone arch when I'm heading near Barnet, your vid brought back memories of seeing it from a car as a kid.
Watching this again today. I really enjoy this walk. I guess it has everything, weather, a commons, a wonderful church with its very old burial ground, a village, all positioned against noisy modern movement. Such a beautiful area to walk! Wonderful video. Thank you for the enjoyment yet again!
amazing! Family ties to Borehamwood and the movies (a Boreham relative married a Teague and left in 1939 to follow a movie career near Arcadia CA). Fun to see the area. thanks!
My first work with you John this is the war I first discovered you and water discovery we have moved on together quite a ways from this through many walks you are a treasure that is most certainly I’m being entertained educated all at once you show me bits and bobs of England that I would never discovered on my own my plan is to be back there again I’ve only been to England once I’ve got to make changes to that while I still can what’s the recovering from a stroke from 2010 that has messed my wife up horriblyThat’s called horrible yes I did Mesut my wife our marriage and all my relations with family my life has been completely fucked up since that this is like almost like a trip to England following you around thank you this is a major favor
Hey John thanks for the upload I use to live on Barnet in Bedford road opposite High Barnet st oi love the old sites but never ventured into Hadley wood
Out of all the people i sub to on UA-cam you stand out the most. I'm more into tech, video games and comedy. Something about your videos that are just so calm relax and sort of hypnotic. Way different to what I'm use to watching.
Great film, wonderful winter skies and oaks. I particularly loved the shots in Cockfosters underground - quite Lynch-ian, the empty phone cabinets, etc.
I meant to say, and I'm sure you already have plenty of offers, but my 'other alf' is a composer and multi-instrumentalist; he'd love to do some music for you if that's of interest. Let me know and I'll send you a link to his stuff etc.
Ah - me back on! This is Mark's website: marklockett.com and you can reach him on: mpwlockett@gmail.com we'd love to contribute to your inspirational works!
I have remembered this time to put a thumbs up for this lovely video. I usually get so engrossed, I forget to leave any trace, but honestly thank you for this and all your work even those I have forgotten to officially like.
Oh mud (not so) glorious mud. I thought you had landed in it at one point there John. Agreed on the traffic, I like a wee blast down the side of a road occasionally. It can be an interesting experience when you have tinnitus and hyper-sensitive hearing - gotta test the old lugs out sometime though.
Thanks Jag - I remember trying to plot sites on a Ley in Wycombe a while back and getting excited before realising that wherever I put the ruler it fell across significant sites
Loving your videos John. Recently discovered your channel and it's great to catch up with them. Has inspired me to do some of the London Loop myself. Happy New Year and I hope you can do more this year, 2021, without too many limitations.
HI John, splendid film ,think a pair of wellingtons would be beneficial .Loved the first church in camalet, ill also look into the battle of Barnet great stuff....must confess I enjoy a tree hug from time to time.
Okay John been watching your videos for a while now, subscribed etc. But is there any particular order to them? I just seem to be watching them very randomly. Sure I'm missing out on some excellent walks. Thanks 😀👍
Thanks Tomgirl. Well you could go to the 'Videos' tab on the channel page and then 'filter' by date - that way you could watch them in order. I started the current series around 2015 - before that they're a bit more ad-hoc
John Rogers thanks john will do that, they’re all excellent. Hope in the new year I can start to look around myself 👍🏻😊💜and a happy solstice to you and your family too 😊🌝
Right on cue a black cab! Just out of interest John how many times on your walks anywhere around the world have you had to resort to hailing a cab or hitching a ride and what was the most remote place you had to do so?
Two points. First, the Battle of Barnet took place nearly sixty years after the death of King Henry IV, who died in 1417. It was in fact Edward IV who gained the throne following the final defeat of the House of Lancaster at the Battle of Barnet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Barnet Second, although the original name by which Camlet Moat appears to have been known does pre-date the Arthurian writings of Sir Thomas Malory, which were published by William Caxton during the reign of King Henry VII in 1485, the archaeological remains suggest that the original structure contained within the moat dates to the middle of the Fourteenth Century. This does not pre-date the earlier writings of Chretien de Troyes, one of the original sources upon which Malory based his text. These date from the Twelfth Century and pre-date the structure within Camlet Moat by some two hundred years. Hope this helps. londonhistorygroup.com/archives/listings/camlet-moat
Many thanks for the correction Rupert, I'm always getting my Henrys and Edwards confused. Christopher Street I believe traces the moat back before the stone building that was excavated- I don't have the book to hand but will dig it out later. Worth a read though if you are interested in the area
Glad to be of use. It is easy to confuse both Edwards and Henrys among the Plantagenets as they are a bit like London buses: they tend to turn up three at a time, and then disappear from sight for decades. On another level, I actually have Street's first book about London, 'Earthstars', which is the original tome in which he mentions the Barnet Triangle and Camlet Moat. The connection with the Grail comes not from a Dark Age Arthurian Welsh or Medieval Anglo-Norman source, but from a link to the de Mandevilles and the Templars. I shall endeavour to send you something about that in due course.
That'd be great Rupert - thanks, I must get a copy of Earthstars. On a connected aside - there's a door at the rear of the Modena cathedral built in the C12th that bears a stone carving depicting a scene from the Arthurian legends - nobody is quite sure why. I used to stop by on my cycle to work to remind me of home
Hello, John - have you ever walked along the Wandle? It is a lovely walk in its own right - and it would benefit from your sympathetic commentary! Best, Michael in Toronto.
Actually Michael I haven't. It was going to be Chapter 9 of my book This Other London but for various reasons didn't happen - that was in 2013 and I still haven't done it. Thanks for the reminder
@@JohnRogersWalks John - a very attractive route is described in a lovely book which is probably out of print. It was published buy Shire Publications and was called Discovering country walks around London, or something similar. It was written by a Merry Lundin (or something similar). Another walk is Watford-StAlbans along the Colne-Ver - it's the river that bursts its banks every so often and brings devastation to the good folk of Hertfordshire, or something similar... Best
Whenever I do walks especially through nature, I seem to attract dogs not on lead running towards me, either barking, sniffing or jumping on me. Any tips on how you handle dogs not on lead running towards you?
same happens to me. they say to act submissive, don't make eye contact, look down and they'll leave you alone, above all try not to be scared as they can read it as aggression
Started with stumbling upon that video of you walking around Leytonstone and Leyton....now Im in too deep with your vids!!! Sooo soo awesome! I am saving them now as a reference for my next amble. I have come to love long walks ever since I live in London...now these vids are great guide for more exploration! Cannot wait for my next day off! :)))
HI JOHN. LOOK UP ADMIRAS CORNERB OF MINEHEAD AND HIS INTERESTING VIDEOS OF THE LOCAL AREA AND FURTHER AFIELD IN THE SOUTH WEST. SO TELL JAG BETTY TO SEEK THESE OUT AND LIKE I GOT YOU JOHN AND JAG KNOWING EACH OTHER AND WATCHING EACH OTHERS FILM,YOU CAN INCLUDE ADMIRALS CORNER IN YOUR ECLECTIC SMALL GROUP OF VIDEOGRAPHERS. PETER.
Brilliant thank you - oddly I did briefly consider getting my kids to do a re-enactment in the garden inspired by the old footage of school kids re-staging the Battle of Hastings in Andrew Kotting's Edith Walks
I apologise for being forward and I don't want to come across as insulting but I feel the need to correct an error but you are historical incorrect it was not Henry the 4th at barnet for he did in 1413 it was Henry 6th (who came to the throne in 1422 - 1470 / 76) verses Edward 4th
@@JohnRogersWalks no worries , I hope you didn't mind me point it out , I apologise for being so forward . any way I do like watching your videos and it has inspired me to do country walks I also like to say I find them very informative .
NO GRAZING - except by commoners. So, if I lived in that parish(?) and got myself a milk cow, or a couple sheep, or a nag - could I then take them there and allow them to graze under my supervision? Serious question.
it's a good question. I'm not sure about this particular common but in Epping Forest to have to own a certain amount of open land to qualify as a 'Commoner'. I imagine they might have similar by-laws that cover this. In many cases Commoners Rights were transfered to other things more relevant to modern life - like access to open space for recreation
Walking the London loop with John Rogers, a splendid way to spend a rainy afternoon, coming as I do from rural Wales, I'm amazed at the amount of green spaces there is around London! Thanks again.
An excellent video as always. I have worked in Borehamwood a number of times and done a number of walks in and around the town. But I have never ventured down Arkley Lane, I will pencil that in for my next visit.
Thank you so much for the memories! I played for Cockfosters nearly 30 years ago and have moved internationally many times since. So, it is wonderful to revisit what was a place of great charm during my youth.
Thanks for sharing your walk, I always keep an eye out for the whalebone arch when I'm heading near Barnet, your vid brought back memories of seeing it from a car as a kid.
Gorgeous. Idyllic countryside. A wonderful video. And Alfred Hitchcock ending. .fantastic...
Thanks Nikki
The most therapeutic channel I know!
Thanks for that Daniel wonderful to hear
I live just next to the common and have always lived in the area but I still learnt something new. Great video.
Thanks pumpkinwolf
Watching this again today. I really enjoy this walk. I guess it has everything, weather, a commons, a wonderful church with its very old burial ground, a village, all positioned against noisy modern movement. Such a beautiful area to walk! Wonderful video. Thank you for the enjoyment yet again!
Amazing to see so many lovely places around London. Loved the tree hug and the pub.
I have joined you on many walks, they are Uber relaxing,and moments of sanity in a not so sane world. Many thanks from Canada
thanks Peter, thanks for joining me on the walks, so glad they help in some way
Many thanks from Maine USA a part of the US very close to Canada Canada
superb loved the old church lots of mud on the journey you must have walked miles keep up the great work as said best blog on the net thanks mate
Thanks Steven, very kind, it ended up being about 11 miles, need to get my stamina back up for the summer and some longer walks
11 miles stone me respect
If you ever end up back here there is a barnet museum in high barnet that has some knowledgable volunteers and artefacts from the battle of barnet!:)
thanks Josh - I'd certainly like to go back at some point
"...unless it's some sort of weird swinger's code!" priceless John. Thank you.
Congratulations on your book, Thanks again John.
Thanks Darrrell
amazing! Family ties to Borehamwood and the movies (a Boreham relative married a Teague and left in 1939 to follow a movie career near Arcadia CA). Fun to see the area. thanks!
turn right after the bridge up the hill to charming Ridge with fab views then thro historical south mimms to potters bar...lovely rural walk
I'm quite glad I found your channel. I miss London. I've been there 3 times and your videos are really good thanks!!
Thanks Lisa
My first work with you John this is the war I first discovered you and water discovery we have moved on together quite a ways from this through many walks you are a treasure that is most certainly I’m being entertained educated all at once you show me bits and bobs of England that I would never discovered on my own my plan is to be back there again I’ve only been to England once I’ve got to make changes to that while I still can what’s the recovering from a stroke from 2010 that has messed my wife up horriblyThat’s called horrible yes I did Mesut my wife our marriage and all my relations with family my life has been completely fucked up since that this is like almost like a trip to England following you around thank you this is a major favor
The battlefield of Barnet was very interesting. Thank you.
Top walk i look forward to your next adventure thanks for sharing
thanks 4thEye - the next one is a good'un
Thank you
@ 5;18, I was wishing you to hug that tree ! and the traffic pumelling !
Lovely walk, great video John.
They get better every time. Thank you
thanks Little Acorns - it was a great tree, really needed a big embrace. I'll have to go back up to that hill in the summer with a can of beer I think
Just a minor addition: there is a Medium Secure Unit, part of Barnet, Enfield & Haringey Mental Health Trust called Camlet Lodge.
Loved that black cab serendipity moment !
Great walk John, just discovered it, what a difference 2.75 years makes, wasn't Boreham Wood a hub of the British Film Industry ??
it was indeed Leslie - I continued the walk in another video and passed some of the studios
Hey John thanks for the upload I use to live on Barnet in Bedford road opposite High Barnet st oi love the old sites but never ventured into Hadley wood
it's great up there Keith - this was one of my favourite walks
Out of all the people i sub to on UA-cam you stand out the most. I'm more into tech, video games and comedy. Something about your videos that are just so calm relax and sort of hypnotic. Way different to what I'm use to watching.
Thanks Matrixrory - that's wonderful to hear, thanks for subbing
Great film, wonderful winter skies and oaks. I particularly loved the shots in Cockfosters underground - quite Lynch-ian, the empty phone cabinets, etc.
Thanks Kate - you're right about the Lynchian feel of the phone booths, that station feels frozen in time
I meant to say, and I'm sure you already have plenty of offers, but my 'other alf' is a composer and multi-instrumentalist; he'd love to do some music for you if that's of interest. Let me know and I'll send you a link to his stuff etc.
Oops, you have my son Ezra's profile up here - computer sharing . . . message was from me, Kate.
Thanks Ezra that would be fantastic- much appreciated
Ah - me back on! This is Mark's website: marklockett.com and you can reach him on: mpwlockett@gmail.com we'd love to contribute to your inspirational works!
I have remembered this time to put a thumbs up for this lovely video. I usually get so engrossed, I forget to leave any trace, but honestly thank you for this and all your work even those I have forgotten to officially like.
Thanks Jon that's very kind of you - greatly appreciated
Another quality ramble John, many thanks!
thanks Jim - really enjoyed this walk
Oh mud (not so) glorious mud. I thought you had landed in it at one point there John.
Agreed on the traffic, I like a wee blast down the side of a road occasionally. It can be an interesting experience when you have tinnitus and hyper-sensitive hearing - gotta test the old lugs out sometime though.
Thanks for this enjoyable video, I know these areas so it’s nice to see things from another’s perspective
My pleasure - glad you enjoyed the video
Great stuff John, man those muddy paths were bad. Laughed at your bit about Ley lines, very true. Thanks again John.
Thanks Jag - I remember trying to plot sites on a Ley in Wycombe a while back and getting excited before realising that wherever I put the ruler it fell across significant sites
Loving your videos John. Recently discovered your channel and it's great to catch up with them. Has inspired me to do some of the London Loop myself. Happy New Year and I hope you can do more this year, 2021, without too many limitations.
HI John, splendid film ,think a pair of wellingtons would be beneficial .Loved the first church in camalet, ill also look into the battle of Barnet great stuff....must confess I enjoy a tree hug from time to time.
thanks Richard - yes, that's a lovely church, wish I'd spent a little longer there. I think I'll make a point of hugging a tree on my future walks
I suspect Camlet Way has some form of link to Camlet Moat, a 15th Century moated house, the site of which is probably less than 1km away
I think you’re right Christian- I visited there on the previous section of the London Loop, magical spot
Nice to be out of the city, and the history's good, but that mud ! Good going John. If I were walking about there, i dunno....
Nice one John. Apologises if you already have though have you done a walk about Tilbury?
I've done a couple of Tilbury walks, there's a video from one here on my channel back in 2011 - but maybe it's worth a return
Nice walk in an area I no nothing about.
Good video
thanks Caroline
Okay John been watching your videos for a while now, subscribed etc. But is there any particular order to them? I just seem to be watching them very randomly. Sure I'm missing out on some excellent walks. Thanks 😀👍
Thanks Tomgirl. Well you could go to the 'Videos' tab on the channel page and then 'filter' by date - that way you could watch them in order. I started the current series around 2015 - before that they're a bit more ad-hoc
John Rogers thanks john will do that, they’re all excellent. Hope in the new year I can start to look around myself 👍🏻😊💜and a happy solstice to you and your family too 😊🌝
Another great video John, really enjoyed it 👍
thanks Ronnie
Right on cue a black cab! Just out of interest John how many times on your walks anywhere around the world have you had to resort to hailing a cab or hitching a ride and what was the most remote place you had to do so?
Muddier than the Lakes are at the moment - quite impressive!
I'll think they'll be proud of that accolade
Two points. First, the Battle of Barnet took place nearly sixty years after the death of King Henry IV, who died in 1417. It was in fact Edward IV who gained the throne following the final defeat of the House of Lancaster at the Battle of Barnet.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Barnet
Second, although the original name by which Camlet Moat appears to have been known does pre-date the Arthurian writings of Sir Thomas Malory, which were published by William Caxton during the reign of King Henry VII in 1485, the archaeological remains suggest that the original structure contained within the moat dates to the middle of the Fourteenth Century. This does not pre-date the earlier writings of Chretien de Troyes, one of the original sources upon which Malory based his text. These date from the Twelfth Century and pre-date the structure within Camlet Moat by some two hundred years. Hope this helps.
londonhistorygroup.com/archives/listings/camlet-moat
Many thanks for the correction Rupert, I'm always getting my Henrys and Edwards confused.
Christopher Street I believe traces the moat back before the stone building that was excavated- I don't have the book to hand but will dig it out later. Worth a read though if you are interested in the area
Glad to be of use. It is easy to confuse both Edwards and Henrys among the Plantagenets as they are a bit like London buses: they tend to turn up three at a time, and then disappear from sight for decades. On another level, I actually have Street's first book about London, 'Earthstars', which is the original tome in which he mentions the Barnet Triangle and Camlet Moat. The connection with the Grail comes not from a Dark Age Arthurian Welsh or Medieval Anglo-Norman source, but from a link to the de Mandevilles and the Templars. I shall endeavour to send you something about that in due course.
That'd be great Rupert - thanks, I must get a copy of Earthstars. On a connected aside - there's a door at the rear of the Modena cathedral built in the C12th that bears a stone carving depicting a scene from the Arthurian legends - nobody is quite sure why. I used to stop by on my cycle to work to remind me of home
I will try and check this out. Thanks.
Hello, John - have you ever walked along the Wandle? It is a lovely walk in its own right - and it would benefit from your sympathetic commentary! Best, Michael in Toronto.
Actually Michael I haven't. It was going to be Chapter 9 of my book This Other London but for various reasons didn't happen - that was in 2013 and I still haven't done it. Thanks for the reminder
@@JohnRogersWalks John - a very attractive route is described in a lovely book which is probably out of print. It was published buy Shire Publications and was called Discovering country walks around London, or something similar. It was written by a Merry Lundin (or something similar). Another walk is Watford-StAlbans along the Colne-Ver - it's the river that bursts its banks every so often and brings devastation to the good folk of Hertfordshire, or something similar... Best
it only hails in the summer months John
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Whenever I do walks especially through nature, I seem to attract dogs not on lead running towards me, either barking, sniffing or jumping on me. Any tips on how you handle dogs not on lead running towards you?
same happens to me. they say to act submissive, don't make eye contact, look down and they'll leave you alone, above all try not to be scared as they can read it as aggression
Thanks, useful advice
Started with stumbling upon that video of you walking around Leytonstone and Leyton....now Im in too deep with your vids!!! Sooo soo awesome! I am saving them now as a reference for my next amble. I have come to love long walks ever since I live in London...now these vids are great guide for more exploration! Cannot wait for my next day off! :)))
that's so great to hear Randy, many thanks indeed - happy exploring
Books on order John cheer's mate :)
thanks Clive, hope you enjoy it
HI JOHN. LOOK UP ADMIRAS CORNERB OF MINEHEAD AND HIS INTERESTING VIDEOS OF THE LOCAL AREA AND FURTHER AFIELD IN THE SOUTH WEST. SO TELL JAG BETTY TO SEEK THESE OUT AND LIKE I GOT YOU JOHN AND JAG KNOWING EACH OTHER AND WATCHING EACH OTHERS FILM,YOU CAN INCLUDE ADMIRALS CORNER IN YOUR ECLECTIC SMALL GROUP OF VIDEOGRAPHERS. PETER.
I live on the Common, you missed Spike Milligan’s old house…
Hello John can I buy you lunch I live in Leytonstone would love to chat with you face to face
You might be amused by this kids' film version of the battle of Barnet vimeo.com/24324842 from a few years back
Brilliant thank you - oddly I did briefly consider getting my kids to do a re-enactment in the garden inspired by the old footage of school kids re-staging the Battle of Hastings in Andrew Kotting's Edith Walks
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one of my favourite stores Peter
JOHN, YOUR TEA PROBLEM SOLVED, TAKE A FLASK OF HOT COFFE OR TEA OR YOUR ADVENTURES, PETERL
thanks Peter - yes, I really do need a flask
An old country saying,if you see a rook on its own it's a crow,if you see a flock of crow's they are rooks.
I apologise for being forward and I don't want to come across as insulting but I feel the need to correct an error but you are historical incorrect it was not Henry the 4th at barnet for he did in 1413 it was Henry 6th (who came to the throne in 1422 - 1470 / 76) verses Edward 4th
thanks for the correction Oliver - I've never been good with my monarchs
@@JohnRogersWalks no worries , I hope you didn't mind me point it out , I apologise for being so forward . any way I do like watching your videos and it has inspired me to do country walks I also like to say I find them very informative .
Barnet in walker art gallery Liverpool saw display ring taken from the finger of Warwick the kingmaker at Barnet ornate gold poor bloke
NO GRAZING - except by commoners.
So, if I lived in that parish(?) and got myself a milk cow, or a couple sheep, or a nag - could I then take them there and allow them to graze under my supervision? Serious question.
it's a good question. I'm not sure about this particular common but in Epping Forest to have to own a certain amount of open land to qualify as a 'Commoner'. I imagine they might have similar by-laws that cover this. In many cases Commoners Rights were transfered to other things more relevant to modern life - like access to open space for recreation
I'm going to stick my late oar in and say The battle of Barnet was a victory for Edward IV not Henry IV.
What a plonker. Going on a walk without a map and compas.