Victron Touch / Cerbo GX & Digital Multi Control TOGETHER = LESS FEATURES
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2024
- Connecting a Digital Multi Control & Cerbo / Touch GX together causes your solar system to have less features including REMOTE INVERTER CONTROL via Victron's VRM Web Site. The Cerbo GX and Cerbo GX-S does what a Digital Multi Control can and WAY more.
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I have been watching your videos for years now, and I have seen all of your solar playlist and this video as well as those have clear and concise messages. I mean you make it so understandable. I can't afford, nor do I have a rig big enough to outfit that equipment, but just watching your videos, I feel like I ever do run across it, I will be able to understand it and work with it. You really do a great job explaining things. BTW I just have a shortbed slide in camper so I don't have the room for all of that cool stuff, but someday I hope.
Thank you so much for the kind feedback. I'll be back to traveling soon, so lots of content to come!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I can see, there's only one benefit to having the DMC in addition to the CCGX or Touch 50/70: and that is a fast and easy way to set the incoming current limit with the dial. It's faster than going through the settings on the Touch GX.
It's probably slightly faster.. but when setting up an RV at a campground I don't think 2 or 3 seconds is a big deal 🤷♂️
9:45 - I do exactly what you mentioned. When I'm on shore power I set the inverter to CHARGER ONLY, for exactly the reason you mentioned, so if I lose shore power, the inverter doesn't drain my batteries to supply AC to my loads.
I'm still not sure why I see so many UA-camrs with Victron system running the Touch GX AND the Digital Multi Control. The DMC (Digital Multi Control) seem redundant, and an unnecessary expense. That big UA-camr you mentioned keeps adding both in every installation he has done to his RVs (both Airstreams have both!). It makes no sense. Maybe it's lack of knowledge on the part of the installer.
I think it's a lack of knowledge and an extra part to sell for affiliate money.
Great info! Thank you for sharing. I did learn a bit about my Digital Multi Controller, but not enough. I can’t find on UA-cam a video showing the Multi Controller being put through its paces. I also can’t find info that I can understand on how it works and what it does. I found out a bit by failures on some of it, but still would like a presentation on how to operate this unit and what it does. If you ever post something like that, I’d watch for sure!
@jimsjacob Probably because there isn't much to a DMC. It's just the same button from the inverter and then the current control. I have a video on how to connect to shore power that will cover those options. The video uses a Touch / Cerbo remote, but the info about current limit, on, off, and charger only, are covered which is all the DMC can do.
@@joulemine It’s the knob of the current control that throws me…. Is the value showing on the display, the amount of amps allowed in? If I’m plugged into a 30 amp ped, can I turn the knob up to 45 so that my Inverter (same you have) is augmenting the 30 amps coming in? I have a 20 amp GFI plug that I plug into when I’m prepping the trailer for a trip. Tops off my two BattleBorn Game Changers. If I turn the knob to 20, it will trip the GFI when the charging goes into absorption. If I dial it down to 16, it does not. Things like that plus the inverter helping make up for not enough power by inverting battery power in relation to the DMC is what I’m wondering about. Cheers.
@jimsjacob Check out the shore power video. I talk about those scenarios. Essentially you set it to the plug you are hooked up to or lower. -Tom
@@joulemine Will do! Thanks for the replies.
You won my sub for this video alone. Well.. I'm in an RV (semi-permanent) and have built a nice solar system.. Four 100Ah BB lithiums, 2 arrays (3x290W titled but on the ground and 6x200w bi-facials on a dual axis tracker) a pair of Victron 100\70 controllers (networked) wired through a Lynx distributor and then into a Multiplus II 12v 3000 120 and finally into a CERBO with the touch 50. I LOVE the Boat and Motorhome overview. I have tweaked mine even further and have a aerial picture of a beautiful sunset I took over a local lake with a bridge in it. How much do you know about programming the MP's..? In the advanced tab in VE config.. I have it checked for waning it to prioritize other energy sources.. But it seems to staying in the on all day unless I change it to inverter only, never taking advantage of my solar and 400Ah.
I suggest you use Victron Connect to program the inverter. The VE Config software is the old way and has less features. I am familiar with it, as Ive been around for a while. ESS (assistant) is how you'd accomplish that via that software. But it isn't legal to back feed the grid, so it isn't how I'd accomplish that if I were you.
Once you go into the MP via Connect you'll see the extra controls I'm referring too in the settings area. I can't remember the exact name right now, but it's quite obvious and customizable.
If you need help, I do remote consults, link in first comment. BTW I had my RV in my screen as well 😎 Safe travels and happy tinkering!
Good information Thomas. Now if I only had a Victron system instead of Magnum but the Magnum is working so it's not getting replaced right now. Keep the good stuff coming.
Thanks "Johnny" 😁 Magnum makes some great products! No need to swap 🤙
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Very informative! Does the on/off feature work with the Phoenix inverter?
Yep, but it uses a VE Direct networking cable as opposed to the RJ45 the Multis use. ✌️
Hi Thomas, I’m still in the midst of restoring my 1969 Lifetime motorhome. It’s all original with its electrical setup. Just 2 breakers and the 110 hook up, and that “junction “ gets very hot! Anyways I want to redo it all for a 30amp hookup, and solar setup. But not sure on everything I need. I wish there was a kit to buy to have a complete setup from scratch. Is there or is it all piece together?
I do consulting for DIYers, including parts list, etc here: joulemine.com/consultations/ I'd probably recommend you put in a new distribution center with modern breakers, fuses, etc. It'll be quite a bit of work no doubt about it. Best of luck!
Hello, thanks for your very useful videos. Question: I have a simple setup with a Multiplus II Compact that is controlled by a DMC connected via the ve.bus. I'd like to add my Cerbo GX in that setup and with the Cerbo GX being installed very close to the DMC, I was wondering if I can disconnect the RJ45 from the DMC and plug it into the 1st ve.bus port of the Cerbo and adding a new ve.bus cable connected from the 2nd ve.bus port on the Cerbo to the vet.bus on the DMC?
Both the Cerbo & DMC use an RJ45 connection to connect to the inverter. Happy tinkering -Tom
Do you have a video on setting up the victron multplus-2 12 volt 3000 120 2 thanks
Not yet sorry, but I offer consulting, including setting it up for you if needed.
Great video. I made the update and like being able to set my current on the home screen now. I get notifications daily -- "bmv712 High Voltage." It is just showing that my 14.4v high limit was slightly exceeded like 14.45 or 14.52. How can I turn off this notification using my Touch? BMV712 only shows "OK" on that warning with no option to stop it.
Check the BMV in the Victron Connect App. I bet you have an alarm set for high voltage in there. Adjust for higher if needed. ✌️
@@joulemine You were exactly right. On Victron Connect I had it set for 14.5v. Upped it to 15.3 and no more high voltage alarms. Thanks!
I have the touch 50 but recently it stopped connecting to the Wi-Fi in our coach? Any suggestions? Thanks Don
If the signal is poor it will stop trying to reconnect to it. I suggest you "reboot" the Cerbo. If that doesn't work then "forget your network" in the WiFi settings and try again. Wifi connection article is here: joulemine.com/wifi-connection-for-victron-touch-50-and-touch-70/
What state do you do solar installs
I’ve been considering getting extra solar on my Renegade Motorhome
Most likely after this summer
Central Florida is where the shop is located. More info is on our website and feel free to call if you prefer: greatoutdoorssolar.com/
Perfect
I spend winters in Silver Springs
I currently have AGM
Can you install lithium conversion
Sure can, all we do is solar for mobile applications.
When the Victron is in charge only mode, does the amperage input limiting control still work? Or does that only work when inverting? I was hesitant to put it in charge only mode because I didn't know if I would lose that protection?
The inverter doesn't stop you from pulling that much, it isn't a "load shed" or "energy management system". When in ON however it will go into assit mode (inverting) to make addtional power if you need more than what you have the AC Input Limit set too. Hope yall are well! 🤙
@@joulemine so to confirm, we lose that protection when in charger only mode?
@barrybluth4351 There is no "protection" to begin with. It doesn't limit power being pulled at all, regardless of the mode it is in. It does, go into "assit" aka inverting mode when ON, but not Charger Only.
So if you're on a 50A shore connection, then inverter isn't going to go into inverting mode unless incoming shore power is lost. A 50A RV won't pull more than 50A in the first place, if it did, it would trip the shore breaker.
If you have a 15, 20, or 30A connection, but a 50A RV and do need "assist" mode. Then leave it set to on. The article on the website gives more info as well, if you prefer to read it.
@@joulemine I'm referring to the limit setting that I set when driveway surfing. If plugged into a 110 household outlet, I limit the draw to 15 amps. It keeps us from popping the breaker in our hosts home. That's the setting I'm referring to. Protection for the house or pedestal (like when I plug my 50 amp coach into a 30 amp site, I set the limit at 25 amps)
I have the digital multicontrol and about to update to cerbo-s gx. I am planning to leave both hooked up. Shouldn't be a problem, correct?
If you are getting a Touch 50 or 70 display, then personally I'd put that where the DMC is now and sell the old remote. If you aren't doing the Touch 50/70 as well, then definitely keep the DMC. But you won't be able to remote control it via the Cerbo with the DMC in the system. ✌️
Gotcha. Wasn’t planning on installing the touch 50 or 70, just use local from my house out to my van or my phone while I’m using the van. Thanks for your reply.
Long time no see, I remember when you sold your house before you went full time RVing
Seems like just yesterday, and yet it was over 5 years ago now 🤯 Thanks for watching, I'm back making content and will be traveling again soon 🚐💨
Definitely not needed, but I installed one anyway. I prefer the physical knob and toggle switch of the DMC and, for me, it was worth losing features on the GX that I wouldn’t have used.
The touch-screen is like a smart phone to me. The inverter has a rocker switch in a pinch if ever needed. Thanks for the input, happy camping.
@joulemine To me, it's kind of like using the touch screen in my truck versus using the volume knob. I like the touch screen for just about everything but prefer the knobs for changing stations and adjusting the volume.
It's great to have options!
I understand that, different strokes for different folks. ✌️