Harley Benton MV-4JB Gotoh vs. Squier Classic Vibe Late 60's Jazz Bass - LowEndLobster Tone Shootout

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    Harley Benton MV-4JB Gotoh Review: • Harley Benton MV-4JB G...
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    Squier Classic Vibe Late 60's Jazz Bass: www.fender.com/en-US/squier-e...
    Hey everyone! Today we have a Late Sixties Shootout between two brand new Jazz Bass models from Harley Benton and Squier. These basses are surprisingly similar with their 60's pickup spacing, single coil alnico pickups, bound and blocked indian laurel fingerboards, and vintage vibes. Which one will win this tone shootout? Let's find out!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 172

  • @nathanchalcraft6919
    @nathanchalcraft6919 Рік тому +32

    If squire did a normal jazz bass like the classic vibe 60s/ 70s with a rosted maple neck, i think they would sell like hotcakes

    • @roma5869
      @roma5869 Рік тому +6

      The neck is what kills me with squire basses. I can’t do it.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +7

      I've seen folks put that Roasted Maple Fender neck that you can buy from Fender on Squiers with great results.... but those necks cost nearly as much as the bass LOL

    • @shipsahoy1793
      @shipsahoy1793 Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster That’s too funny. I also thought the Squier sounded a bit better. Although I’m not too happy about the stock playability .. I wonder if buying a new one now @ $449. would yield better results?! 🤔

    • @WinnieRoo1138
      @WinnieRoo1138 Рік тому +1

      I just bought a Squier 40th Anniversary Vintage Jazz, and the neck on it is next level. No fret ends, nice tint, and I love the satin finish. Try that.

  • @LumiMoonCh
    @LumiMoonCh Рік тому +16

    The Squire has a smoother tone but I feel like it had less versatility through the tone knob adjustments. I like that the HB has a little edge to it and you know the hardware is going to outlast the Squire's. For half the price you could swap out the pick ups and still come in cheaper than the Squire.

  • @tigerscott2966
    @tigerscott2966 Рік тому

    Great video. Thanks. It's like coming to a classroom watching your videos.

  • @gamma921
    @gamma921 Рік тому

    Thank you for this thorough comparison Lobster!
    Ever since I first saw it I like the HB so much with the roasted maple neck, the block inlays, and especially in this colour. Despite the weight it seems and sounds like a decent choice for a jazz bass for an amateur like myself. I already own a P+H config HB bass, which I'm totally satisfied with so your review just made me want to have a sibling for it... :)
    Keep up the good work mate, always happy to watch your videos!

  • @cbolt4492
    @cbolt4492 Рік тому

    Great video, liked and subscribed

  • @xMTLKx
    @xMTLKx Рік тому

    The Harley Benton looks and sound so great I'm almost about to buy one, I just love this finish it's one of my favorite

  • @ConstantineIsslamow
    @ConstantineIsslamow Рік тому +2

    Pretty hard to beat the Harley Benton. Thanks for the head to head.

  • @davejones7475
    @davejones7475 Рік тому +1

    My gratitude for another outstanding review. Especially considering everyone has to start somewhere and you laid It down and out. Thanks to your expertise, the Squire wins the sound hand's down!

  • @peekaboo4390
    @peekaboo4390 Рік тому +16

    Great A/b test here lobster. My ears are saying the HB, my eyes are saying the HB and my wallet is saying the HB. The Squire sounds better with tone dialed down but really the differences are down to taste, I never play with muted tone. You are making me want my second HB bass despite the weight, I can always chamber some weight of it. Slap tone on the HB is great and the bridge pup has that nice nasally tone I love.

  • @frankbass4515
    @frankbass4515 Рік тому +12

    I've been thinking about adding a jazz bass to my collection for a while and I think I've found it, this Harley Benton at this price is a gem! It sounds great and all the models are beautiful, the pink has me totally in love 🤩
    Thanks for these great videos!

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Frank! Enjoy :)

    • @nickurbaszek7566
      @nickurbaszek7566 Рік тому +2

      Same here Frank, got the Harley Benton as my first Jazz bass and i am still blown away how much bass for that money came. Lobster already said everything, but i dont mind the weight since I sit most of the time and personally live the siund of the pickups a lot! Go get it!

    • @frankbass4515
      @frankbass4515 Рік тому

      @@nickurbaszek7566 Hello Nick!
      Yes, I'm going for him!
      Thank you for your comment, it further reaffirms my decision to buy it. All the best!

  • @Buckers2202
    @Buckers2202 3 місяці тому +1

    I say this as a huge Harley Benton fan, the Squier beats it hands down tonally, much richer and fuller to my ears.
    Harley Benton's are great for trying a style of bazz, jazz, stingray etc eithout spending much money

  • @topcat2069
    @topcat2069 Рік тому +5

    From what I hear, for me, It would come down to price. The diffrences are so slight that in a band setting you wouldn't be able to tell the diffrence. So for me it's the Harley Benton MV-4JB
    I love it when you have the current pickup/tone shown in the bottom right corner.
    I kinda wish you would do the for all your reviews for those of us that have short term memory problems.
    I love your channel.

  • @DiogoBaeder
    @DiogoBaeder Рік тому +2

    Great video! The Harley Benton one sounds better to my ears - rounder and richer.

  • @iamgribs
    @iamgribs Рік тому

    They both sound nice. Pickups in both sound suprisingly good.

  • @boomboxxhero9362
    @boomboxxhero9362 Рік тому

    I found a CV Jazz for $100 with a gig bag used and I can’t fault it for that price. It’s phenomenal.
    Otoh, I pre-ordered a USA Geddy and should get it at some point. It’ll be the main and the CV my backup. Love the review vids Lobster and keep ‘em coming.

  • @natty4686
    @natty4686 Рік тому +1

    Great video as always, and I appreciate the side-by-side comparison! I am partial to the HB despite the weight. In your opinion, does the poplar body have a significant effect on the tone? Or is it more to help with the weight?

  • @JennyMayUSAF
    @JennyMayUSAF Рік тому +2

    I’m just here for the t-shirts. :-)

    • @markblackstad8705
      @markblackstad8705 Рік тому

      Bring back the Donny Benet t-shirt soon Lobster!!! I almost fell off my couch when I saw you wearing one in a recent video!

  • @paulvanwal4875
    @paulvanwal4875 Рік тому

    Very good Review, thanks . I think the squier .

  • @devindickinson3903
    @devindickinson3903 Рік тому +2

    I have never been a fan of either companies. However a bass that comes with Wilkinson bridge gotoh tuners and alder body for under 200 that sounds like that no brainer

  •  6 місяців тому +1

    I think the HB sounds really good, but there´s some characteristic JB attack I miss on it, so my choice still is Squier ;)

  • @marlen2801
    @marlen2801 Рік тому +1

    Both budget pickup's sound great for the price th bass costs!! I think you said the Squier have high 7 output..I think that is s lot for the price...But I like a lot the bridge pickup from HB, especially in Fingerstyle... Great shoot out...I like it a lot 😍😍..and to make a mentioned for the details for each bass again (weight Inc 😃). I wish you a great Day 🌞

  • @sicilianmammalian
    @sicilianmammalian Рік тому +5

    Hope Harley Benton makes a 5 string jazz bass in near future

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +4

      Me too! Especially one like this but a pound less lol

  • @etpslick100
    @etpslick100 Рік тому

    Great demo! I like BOTH! I think the HB is a little brighter and punchier than the Squire. But the weight issue with the HB is the deal breaker for me. I would go with the squier and do some upgrades from there. But all n’ all; they both sound great!!🤨🎶👍🏾

  • @scottmatthews172
    @scottmatthews172 Рік тому +1

    Both basses sound great. For the price the Harley Benton wins.
    I have the Squier CV 50's Precision bass and my most favorite Squier of all time the Paranormal jazz bass I snapped up in Toledo after watching your review on that bass and I just love that bass.

  • @jomamma1750
    @jomamma1750 Рік тому +1

    Hey Lobster, Salutations! I read some of your comments and have an old-school tech tip for you: Order some stuff from Philadelphia Luthier and the parts will come in a bag with a business card printed on the information card at the top. If you cut it out carefully with a pair of sissors you'll get a free Luthiers Guide for measuring all sorts of bass related things. That place rocks btw, and no, I don't work there.
    Then take the gauge and set your pickup height like this: put the card sideways on the 64th inch scale. You place the gauge on top of the center of the magnet pole piece(which is perfectly ok b/c the gauge is a piece of laminated cardboard) of your bridge pickup and measure 8/64th to the underside of the E string. Repeat with Bridge Pickup. Then flip the bass over and set your gauge to 6/64ths to the underside of the G string for both pickups.
    This measurement will get you in the ballpark, as each bass is a bit different, and is the original one from Fender for their basses. It eliminates the eyeball guesswork out of a setup and will help you with your comparison videos.
    Your videos Rock! Thanks for the channel.

  • @stephenclarke9512
    @stephenclarke9512 Рік тому

    I would love you to do a side by side shoot out with the ash maple HB and the Great overrated Geddy lee by fender...fantastic review as usual lobster

  • @iamLexxKelsey
    @iamLexxKelsey Рік тому

    oooweee a tough one here...I would probably go H.b an make up the little bottom missing on my amp .... nice review 🦞🎸🔥🔥🔥

  • @robertomicelli
    @robertomicelli Рік тому +1

    Great comparison!!! Both beautiful, one with a vintage sound and the other modern.
    But looking at the specs the Harley benton wins!!!

  • @BARTFUNKBASS
    @BARTFUNKBASS Рік тому +1

    Wow! They sound completely different! Squier for me! Fuller tone!

  • @JonesHess
    @JonesHess Рік тому +1

    Love the new finger jam 💙

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I've been working on a new fingerstyle riff and I really like the result. Glad you dig it too!

  • @jkf9167
    @jkf9167 Рік тому +1

    The contrast between the punchier and more stylized HB and the somewhat more natural and open sounding Squier repeats itself among basses all the time, and at all price levels. In this case, I think I'd choose the Squier because the low notes seem to have have more authority, and both basses seem to have all the mids they need, but I could also see choosing the HB.

  • @joecasa85
    @joecasa85 Рік тому +2

    The Squier sounds a bit more raw in comparison, but honestly I prefer the brighter tone of the HB!
    Thanks for the comparison, it seems like Squier has finally found a decent competitor in the cheap classic basses range.

  • @Carrion700
    @Carrion700 Рік тому

    Bought the squier for the sale price, and its fun to play around on, def needed a set up but still a good mod platform. Wouldn't do it for the 450 price point though.

  • @vlekkie9
    @vlekkie9 Рік тому

    A little brighter and raspier sound for the HB. For the looks: HB! I never tried one of these basses. Wondering how they hold up in a band setting. In the video, everything sounds nice, clean, direct. But how about the performance through an amp? Is there a difference compared to more high end instruments?

  • @willistaylor4077
    @willistaylor4077 Рік тому

    Live long and prosper, Lobster Dude ❤️❤️👍🎸🎸

  • @Tyl-Fiedler
    @Tyl-Fiedler Рік тому +1

    I ordered That Harley benton and mine is 9.1 Pounds 😀👍😘

  • @Hndsmstrngr1
    @Hndsmstrngr1 Рік тому

    The Harley Benton has a brighter and punchier sound and Squier has slightly rounder and Fuller bottom end. I have three Harley Benton basses: fretless jazz( really great fat tone super low action intonation spot on since I tweaked it and I'm going to take the boosted hand NFP filters out of my sire V7 and put it in the fretless and put the original preamp back in the sire. Though I may put an at a later time) a JP450 and a Marquess. They're all exceptionally well made smooth easy playing have great Woods I modified the Marquess by putting twx EMG pickups in it and it has an incredibly wide palette of tones now. So for the money I'd go with Harley button and you can always make up for the difference in bottom end with a little EQ.

  • @artakha14
    @artakha14 Рік тому +4

    Sounds like a lot of tonal difference comes from different neck pickup height setups. Squier sounds like the pickup is closer to the strings, resulting in a different balance, HB sounds more "classic JB" with balance more towards the bridge pup. But I could be wrong

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Great comment. The pickups were interesting as the HB's poles protruded a bit more and were more prone to the string hitting the pole, so I backed off the neck pickup height slightly. The Squier's poles were a lot more flush with the pickup casing and didn't have this problem

  • @floydlay9189
    @floydlay9189 Рік тому

    Great review,,,,,,,Lobby,,you would have to grab the HB,,wouldn't you?

  • @ronviejo4994
    @ronviejo4994 Рік тому

    This one's not even a question for me. Just curious....can you name a good P/MM bass that I can check out? Got a project bass to outfit. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  • @MarkoMarcello
    @MarkoMarcello Рік тому

    Great review. I am surprised with the looks and tone of HB.

  • @panych3198
    @panych3198 Рік тому +3

    Excellent comparison as usual🔥 The basses sound differently but both amazingly! Thanks a lot. What would be your choice, Squire or Sire v5?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +6

      I'd take the Sire V5. They're knocking it out of the park with the 5 series

    • @panych3198
      @panych3198 Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster thank you. Can’t wait for a p5r from thomann. I ordered it a couple of weeks ago.

  • @TheChristianherud
    @TheChristianherud 4 місяці тому +1

    Hallo Mr Lobster! If You by any chance own both, Squier Aff. PJ and Harley Benton PJ-74 - would it be possible to do a Side by Side comparison?

  • @VeitLehmann
    @VeitLehmann Рік тому +1

    Interesting comparison! I agree that the Squier sounds better, but not more than double the price better. The Harley Benton sounds surprisingly good for the price! With its better hardware and fit and finish, it wins the battle for me. I also prefer its satin roasted neck. The pickups can easily be upgraded to edge it out. And I actually like the less aggressive tone blend, but the one on the Squier is also pretty good and still manages to keep some nice definition.

    • @juffurey
      @juffurey 8 місяців тому

      check out the vintage modified squiers you can get them for pretty good prices used now

  • @ramshaar2597
    @ramshaar2597 Рік тому

    The classic in any parameter

  • @airol99
    @airol99 Рік тому

    HB wins! Clarity, definition and the E string sounds very good!!

  • @jonathanchevallier7046
    @jonathanchevallier7046 Рік тому

    To my ears, the sound of the HB is more compressed than the squier. But maybe with a little upgrade, it can be a very nice bass.
    Otherwise, thank you for this great comparison Lobster ;-)

  • @markblackstad8705
    @markblackstad8705 Рік тому +1

    They both sound like... passive jazz basses??? Both sound great to me. I would think you could probably find as much tone variation between individual examples of each bass. If I had to pick, the Squier did sound sound a bit closer to a vintage Fender 60s Jazz bass and I guess that is what they were both going for. I don't own either of these particular models but do have a jazz bass example from both Squier and Harley Benton. I enjoy them both. My Squier is a cheaper Affinity model and the basic set up, neck, fret work, component quality, playability etc. was fine. Maybe I got lucky, or you got unlucky Lobster? My Squier is burgundy mist with a swapped out white pick guard and I don't think could look any better, imo. The 10.8 lbs. for the Harley Benton would be a deal/back breaker for me at this point. Maybe not 30 yrs. ago but definitely now in my mid to late 50s!!

  • @dmon7464
    @dmon7464 Рік тому

    Definitively prefer the HB : very rock n' roll tone which can be difficult to have on a lot of JB, even more expensive. The feeling neck looks very pleasant.
    Reminds me Road Worn tone and feel.
    I understand whose who prefer the SQ, but much more too polite for taste...
    (Pbass player here)
    I think i can play with stock pickups with the HB, i'll immediatly replace them on the SQ.
    The weight is a problem. But with an high-end strap, we're still under the SQ price... (And good for 5 and 6 strings 😇)

  • @ciggy_
    @ciggy_ Рік тому

    What’s the neck profile like on the HB? I’m liking what I’m hearing so I’m thinking of picking on up, I’m in Europe so I can quite easily send it back if the weight is outrageous

  • @stephenmurphy3999
    @stephenmurphy3999 Рік тому

    That's a win for HB almost entirely across the board in my opinion. I think I prefer the Squier with the tone down at 0. But Bravo HB! They continue to punch way above their price point.

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 10 місяців тому

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard two instruments sound so close, at least on my phone speaker.

  • @jmasno5
    @jmasno5 Рік тому

    Both sounded comparable to me. Yes, maybe the edge to the Squire. When the backs were tuned it looked like the Harley Benton's body was a little more compact. Shame it's a boat anchor :) My G&L L-1000 weighs less than 8lb 2oz. 1.6 oz I think. So I am spoiled. I won't even look at a bass 9 or more pounds.

  • @b.rodclark7349
    @b.rodclark7349 Рік тому

    The Squier Jazz bass was a lot brighter and I was imagining how the Harley Benton wouid sound with a set of flats on it.

  • @oscarsantos2608
    @oscarsantos2608 Рік тому +1

    For
    slap I think hb is my choice...👍

  • @BassAdvisor
    @BassAdvisor Рік тому +3

    Great work! I like a bit better the Squier's tone. I'm gassing hard for a MV-4JB in purple.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      Thank you! Yeah the Squier is a bit fuller but the looks of the MV-4JB will always have me looking twice! What great looking instruments

    • @Mazinga
      @Mazinga Рік тому +1

      @@LowEndLobster What pick ups would you upgrade the HB to?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      @@Mazinga Well the new hotness right now is the DiMarzio 60's J and Relentless J. I'd probably do the 60's J for a bass like this.

    • @Mazinga
      @Mazinga Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster Thanks for the quick reply and recommendation. The DiMarzio 60’s J I found on the net look like P-Bass pick-ups. How would you install these in a Jazz Bass? And btw. great content, I always check your videos for pick up mods and bass recommendations 👌🏻

  • @passenger1jaro
    @passenger1jaro Рік тому +1

    hey Lobster, how about neck profile? I love Squier J necks, but I had HB JB 75 and the neck was so chunky that I sold it.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      The HB neck was VERY comfortable. I guess it's a D as opposed to a C, but I thought the HB's neck felt superior hands down.

  • @BassMusician7
    @BassMusician7 Рік тому +1

    Hey Lobster 🦞 Does the nut play a major role in the tone? If so, what is the best nut for these basses? I believe the Harley Benton have a graphite nut and the Squire may have a plastic or bone nut.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +2

      I personally don't think so outside of open notes. Graphite and bone both offer great smoothness and have surfaces that won't catch the string. I think that's the biggest thing with a nut, a quality one will help with tuning stability

  • @billcosta659
    @billcosta659 Рік тому +1

    I like the HB better, but it is a shoulder killer at 10.8 lbs.

  • @CacahueteChico
    @CacahueteChico Рік тому +1

    Hey Lobster! Thanks for the video. I'm wondering if you're gonna review the new Fender Mononeon signature jazz bass? I just bought one and I'm waiting for it to arrive and as always I would like to hear your opinion.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      We do plan on it! Hopefully before the end of the year

  • @seusicha
    @seusicha Рік тому +20

    I honestly like the look, tone and price of the HB much more. But there's no way I can deal with a 11 pounds bass. Total deal (and shoulders) breaker for me.

    • @kickshaw6855
      @kickshaw6855 Рік тому +3

      Me to, I have a also the HB and is impossible to use with a gig. Way too heavey

    • @davidvitale9338
      @davidvitale9338 Рік тому +3

      I agree - 11 pounds is serious weight!!

    • @jankirsten1012
      @jankirsten1012 Рік тому +2

      They are not all that heavy. The one I ordered last week is just 4.2 kg.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      That's good to know!

    • @yurii_chynchyk
      @yurii_chynchyk Рік тому +1

      @@jankirsten1012 which model is 4.2kg ? Because I can't get it. Some people claim that this Gotoh special edition Jazz Bass is 4.2kg. but If Mr. Lobster claims about 11lbs it just can't be such a difference between same model instruments.

  • @HapyLLIuTeJIb
    @HapyLLIuTeJIb Рік тому +1

    I think the Squier sounds better. Also it would not be lost in the mix.

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney4461 Рік тому

    It's hard to understand how HB can be price like that with gotoh tuners.
    Squier CV vary greatly in quality between all their factories . I just got a CV 40th jazz bass in dark red metallic it very nice.
    The HB did sound good especially for $190, where were basses like that when I was a kid?

  • @triv7252
    @triv7252 Рік тому +1

    great video as always, you sound like you still have a hint of Covid still hanging around

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +2

      Hehe, yeah just had a bit of a sore/dry throat. Being in humid italy for 2 weeks and then coming back to dry New England definitely took some adjustment hahah. I feel great now though

    • @triv7252
      @triv7252 Рік тому +1

      @@LowEndLobster that's good to hear, keep up the good work, your reviews are invaluable

  • @revlewisrees9880
    @revlewisrees9880 Рік тому

    Both sounded similar… although the high end on the Squier was smoother. Just why the HB is so heavy I can’t make out.

  • @AnnoyingOrange420
    @AnnoyingOrange420 Рік тому +1

    Greetings Lobster, sorry that this is slightly unrelated but this video is about jazz basses so close enough? I'm looking to upgrade my Sire V3, my main issue with it being the pickups' (neck especially) thinness. I know that's somewhat unavoidable with single coils, and jazz basses especially, but I love everything else about it and would rather swap a couple parts than buy a different bass. From searching online I'm having trouble deciding, so I wanted to ask what would be some good choices for a thicker, humbucker-esque sound. I'm most interested in the Dimarzio Ultra Jazz pickups, as they claim (and sound, from videos I've seen) to have more low end than the average jazz pickup.
    Sorry for all the questions but you're a cool internet guy and most forum posters just say: "a jazz is a jazz, get a precision if you want thick tone" or similar things

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      Hey Denice! I had upgraded the Sire V5 and Sire V7 I own with DiMarzio Area J pickups. To my ears they maintain the 'vintage' J tone while also being hum cancelling. Though I haven't used the Ultra J's, we will have some content coming with the new Relentless J's and the 60's J's that were just released from DiMarzio

    • @AnnoyingOrange420
      @AnnoyingOrange420 Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster hot diggity I’ll have to check it out, thanks for the response. The area Js do sound nice in your other video but I guess I’ll wait to hear the relentless and keep researching. Thanks again

  • @dobiloru
    @dobiloru Рік тому +1

    I love the Riff you playing on the fingerstyle comparison is it popular one from a Song or own made? Im actually cant play it sadly by just hearing

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I made it up

    • @dobiloru
      @dobiloru Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster any Chance to get a Note sheet or some Tabs? I would love to play this endless

  • @mattm1119
    @mattm1119 Рік тому

    Seems like the HB has a bit more tone control when you roll off the highs. The Squier has a slight edge in sound, but not a $100-$200 edge in sound! Truth be told, I'd probably go for the HB, then mount some better pickups in it for the same price as the Squier.

  • @juffurey
    @juffurey 8 місяців тому

    I would actually call the squier satin and the harley benton matte for the neck finish.

  • @everready19373
    @everready19373 Рік тому

    Does Thomann have a U.S. distributor? The shipping from Germany is around $70.00, yikes!!!

  • @SteveAaron
    @SteveAaron Рік тому +1

    Hi,
    Mine finally arrived today in a beautiful shell pink. And it weighs 4.4Kg or 9.7lb. In comparison, my PJ-74 VW as well as my JP-45OP come in at precisely 4Kg, or 8.8lb. It’s a bit noticeable, but not a huge difference. All the pickups and electronics on all of them have been upgraded to hand-wound ones wound to vintage specs, and it makes a tremendous difference, particularly the JP-45OP. I will probably upgrade the tuners on that one as well.
    Hope that helps.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience Stephen!

    • @SteveAaron
      @SteveAaron Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster My pleasure.

    • @yurii_chynchyk
      @yurii_chynchyk Рік тому

      Hi there. IDK how it's possible to nave such a huge difference in weight between 2 guitars of a same model as you say yours is 9.7 and Lobster claims 11 for his one. Besides HB states that it's Alder not Ash like in JB-75 so it should be lighter obviously. Very strange.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      @yuriichynchyk1380 the weights on the cheap basses are all over the place. Some are heavy, some are fine. They're not exactly hand picking the lightest bits of lumber lol

    • @SteveAaron
      @SteveAaron Рік тому

      @@yurii_chynchyk Personally I don't find the weight to be a major issue. What matters the most to me is the sound in a studio session environment, and the feel while playing. And they definitely deliver in both these departments.

  • @kaganozmeric9822
    @kaganozmeric9822 Рік тому +1

    As I can see from here one of the significant differences between them is the bridge pickup position. Squire's bridge pickup is farther from the bridge (classic 60's setup) and HB's is closer to the bridge more like a 70's JB. That's maybe why some of the comments here mention Squire has a smoother tone, not the pickup height setting

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +2

      Hey Kegan! Looks can be deceiving. The pickup location is the exact same, but the HB has a 'taller' bridge with two extra screws on the other side of the saddle, giving the illusion that the bridge pickup is farther back. I measured them out by hand to be sure because I thought the same thing and was having trouble eyeing whether or not the HB was 60's or 70's spacing.

    • @kaganozmeric9822
      @kaganozmeric9822 Рік тому +1

      @@LowEndLobster Thank you for clarifying this. I could not find any info on pickup positions, so the visual was the only hint for me.
      I am an addict for your bass stuff reviews, please keep it up. Cheers

    • @functusian
      @functusian Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster Aha

    • @kaganozmeric9822
      @kaganozmeric9822 Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster By the way I am seriously considering Harley Benton. It looks great and the details like block inlays, neck binding etc. tick all the right boxes for me. When you consider you don't need to upgrade pickups, tuners this bass becomes an amazing value. I have also watched a couple of other reviews and surely its tone suits me better than Squire's. The weight is not an issue, I will use it more for recording. As you had mentioned in your review I will probably replace electronics only.

  • @jesseparrish9198
    @jesseparrish9198 Рік тому

    HB for the win

  • @iamthemoneyj
    @iamthemoneyj Рік тому

    So basically get the hb and swap the pickups :)

  • @MrDanalaimo
    @MrDanalaimo Рік тому +1

    Lobster, I'm curious about the ring you often wear on your right thumb. Is it style or function? I've heard of 'slaprings' and gaffer tape, and I'm wondering if it has something to do with slap? You have one of the best bass channels on UA-cam. Because of you and some polite persistence, Fender took very good care of me during Gretsch-gate. I hesitate to cite specifics but they were quite generous. I also bought the Labor Day special Jazz Bass, but mine arrived in much better shape than yours, despite being misdelivered by FedEx. It needs some tweaks, but not much more. I intend to take advantage of your Harley Beston ordering advice soon (re shipping cost) on a fretless Jazz Bass (HB's has fret markings), their Bass VI version and possibly a guitar of some kind. I keep watching your reviews for other ideas. I think very highly of you. Keep up the great work! Dan

    • @MrDanalaimo
      @MrDanalaimo Рік тому +1

      P.S. it was good to see you recovered from COVID so well and, I think, quickly.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Dan! I've been wearing this ring for a little bit longer than I've been playing bass, but it does function as a little additional weight that helps when I slap. It feels odd playing without it haha. Thank you so much and I'm so glad you're enjoying the videos :)

    • @MrDanalaimo
      @MrDanalaimo Рік тому +1

      @@LowEndLobster Thanks for the reply! Can you tell me any more about the ring, like size, width, type? I'm very early in my 'slap' journey and looking for anything that will help. I tried the tape today and it didn't go well.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +2

      It's just a sterling silver ring I got on a beach over 20 years ago. It's not specially designed for music or anything

  • @jakemorgan3918
    @jakemorgan3918 Рік тому

    Squier for me.

  • @gabrielraul2733
    @gabrielraul2733 Рік тому +1

    Squire: Great sound. HB : Good price

  • @johnmendez9849
    @johnmendez9849 Рік тому

    I tried the Harley Benton then I tried a J bass made by Newen, body made of Patagonian Ash with maple neck, love it and sounds than Harley Benton. Must be the 2 piece solid body. The only thing I'm changing is the bridge for Gotoh. The Newen cost me 170 USD . I think it's a .U h better deal

  • @chrismoly
    @chrismoly Рік тому

    What the deal with the lobster caw???

  • @theway4046
    @theway4046 Рік тому

    I think HB is all the way!!!!!!!

  • @rchrd3353
    @rchrd3353 Рік тому

    after you upgrade the HB pickups the price difference isn't much + you're stuck with a heavy bass
    i'd normally say try them in person and hope you can find a light HB or a squier without fret issues.. though in usa at least you can't.. so i'd choose the squier blind and hope to win the qc lottery .. if not, squier issues are usually fixable by yourself for free or cheap
    noticed the squier late 60 sjazz isn't for sale at all even anymore.. so it's a cool limited item if nothing else that will probably hold more value

  • @sylvaingagnon3211
    @sylvaingagnon3211 Рік тому +1

    I think the Squier sounds better. Once set up, from my ears.

  • @ArtaghVril
    @ArtaghVril Рік тому

    I like the tone of the Squier just a little more but would I pay 'bout 300% the prize for this difference?...eehhhhm...definitely not! I just love the prize for value of those Thomann/Harley Benton instruments and if I would already have 7 basses (and just need 2-3 xD) I would buy the MV-4JB, but not in blue :-D

  • @stephenclarke9512
    @stephenclarke9512 Рік тому

    I much prefer the harley by far...tone wise that is, i have the harley vintage ash and maple version and it sounds just awesome, i had the original fender version of the squire, i didn't like it

  • @anotherrandombassguitarcha9482

    I'd still put my stock and faith in the Harley Benton,.........Fender's Q.C. is quite below marginal at best.
    Heck,...you can buy TWO of the Harley Bentons compared to the price point of the Fender Squier.

  • @alvarovallejos8465
    @alvarovallejos8465 Рік тому

    With tone open the HB was too bright, tone closed it was darker than the squire, think maybe the HB has less mids

  • @debu9374
    @debu9374 Рік тому

    I like the HB better, but the price concerns me. Is it possible to build a quality bass for under $200 without using slave labor?

  • @juaccoo
    @juaccoo Рік тому +1

    which one would be a better for modding?

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      TBH the Harley Benton would need a lot less work, though is still nearly 2 lbs heavier. The HB has the upgraded hardware already, I'd say some shielding and maybe a set of pickups would make you more than golden with the HB. The Squier would definitely require a bit if you'd plan on upgrading the tuners and bridge as well.

    • @juaccoo
      @juaccoo Рік тому

      @@LowEndLobster not what i expected... good to know, thanks!

  • @MadJackF1
    @MadJackF1 Рік тому

    The sound and the weight, the Squier gets the nod. As for the hardware, neck and price, the Harley Benton gets the nod.

  • @fm1057
    @fm1057 Рік тому

    I like the look and hardware of the HB, but I like more the sound of the Squier. The weight of the HB is too much for me.

  • @joezanti5961
    @joezanti5961 Рік тому

    Definitely the HB sounds better from where I sit and I think fender is getting to big for its boots.

  • @XxBigguy3xX
    @XxBigguy3xX Рік тому +1

    Maybe you could do a switcharoo with the pickups.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      Great idea! Sadly both basses are already gone but I do plan on having some fun with the paranormal

    • @herrtulpeskanal1980
      @herrtulpeskanal1980 Рік тому +3

      @@LowEndLobster *x files whistle*

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому +1

      @@herrtulpeskanal1980 The truth is out there

  • @kevinturvey8213
    @kevinturvey8213 Рік тому

    i just tried the HB and really hate the neck. it's like a baseball bat and you can feel the edges of the "skunk stripe" - very offputting. nothing like a proper fender jazz or japanese squier precision neck. doesn't seem that heavy though - but that neck is not nice

  • @Bass.Player
    @Bass.Player Рік тому +1

    They sounded very much alike to me, to bad the HB is a brick....That's a backwards step for HB...

  • @barberq210
    @barberq210 11 місяців тому

    The Squire has a better sound but the HB just sounds louder

  • @OscarLagerstrom
    @OscarLagerstrom Рік тому

    Not really comparable though, the squier will for sure sound more 'vintage' and 'fuller' because it has 60s pickup spacing. The 70s pickup spacing on the HB will make it sound more like Marcus Miller because he used a 70s jazz bass. They are exactly different enough to not be able to compare them.

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      They're both 60s spacing

    • @OscarLagerstrom
      @OscarLagerstrom Рік тому +1

      @@LowEndLobster i see the difference in spacing on the thumbnail haha

    • @LowEndLobster
      @LowEndLobster  Рік тому

      They're both 60's, the HB has a longer bridge which makes it look like 70s.

    • @OscarLagerstrom
      @OscarLagerstrom Рік тому

      ​@@LowEndLobster aha, tricky! If you're sure about that then they are very comparable. I can't find any specs on that HB online myself...

  • @williampopeii9410
    @williampopeii9410 Рік тому

    Harley Benton Sounds Better to Me
    Hope They Make a 5 string

  • @MotoGreciaMarios
    @MotoGreciaMarios Рік тому

    Wow, that weight difference. And come to think of it, the HB has a smaller body too! As far as tone is concerned, the Squier completely stomps all over the HB. You can even use the Squier as a "Precision lite" with the neck pickup soloed and tone somewhere around 50%. Very good.

  • @oscarsantos2608
    @oscarsantos2608 Рік тому

    😲

  • @miguelangelcrimson5670
    @miguelangelcrimson5670 Рік тому

    Definitivamente el sonido de Squier es mas "definido".