JAY GRAYDON: The Ultimate Interview | From Steely Dan to Al Jarreau, George Benson and more!

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  • @Andy-fh4gp
    @Andy-fh4gp 2 роки тому +31

    Jay is incredibly humble. I met him at a Gino Vannelli gig back in 2019. I said “hey Jay”! Bieng a complete stranger, he still came up to me and we chatted. This guy is the definition of the OG LA sound. Young cats take notes.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 роки тому +4

      He certainly is the definition of the LA sound! What a great story, thank you for sharing it!

    • @nebstaism
      @nebstaism 2 роки тому

      @@beneunson Hey Ben great interview I really enjoyed it....do you do you happen what those monitors are called behind him ? ....and what’s his UA-cam channel ?

    • @ralex3697
      @ralex3697 Рік тому +1

      His bends are unbelievable. Incredible pitch

  • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
    @Bridging_the_Political_Divide 2 місяці тому

    Everyone loves Jay, great stories, a class act, and most importantly a steward of the music, always wanting to pay it forward. Great interview.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 місяці тому

      Thanks so much for watching, Jay is indeed a class act!

  • @raymondclarke9321
    @raymondclarke9321 3 роки тому +10

    Peg is simply awesome and when he put his stamp of approval on jarreau's this time. He had me

  • @RDYC
    @RDYC 3 роки тому +8

    Jay is a rediscovered treasure by doing UA-cam. NOT underrated! Im sick of "underrated". And the depth if the knowledge is why guys like this had so much success.

  • @diederikvanvleuten8341
    @diederikvanvleuten8341 3 роки тому +16

    48:54 Let's pray that the documentary will see the light. The 'last golden age before commercial music turned to crap' Well said. Thanks for the music mr Graydon.

    • @bobobrien3563
      @bobobrien3563 2 роки тому +2

      "Peg" made me aware of Jay G. after Walter and Donald dissected the Aja album and pointed out the solo Jay did on Peg.....after others layed eggs.
      Would it be disrespectful to put him in the "freak" catagory.,,,,,?..
      In a positive and admiring way.

  • @DrKennyWang
    @DrKennyWang 2 роки тому +10

    Jay’s Peg solo has given me so much inspiration. The use of fourths on a pop song in the late 70s was crazy.

    • @Per12189
      @Per12189 8 місяців тому

      And what about Steve Kipner's The Ending?

  • @andreasjonsson5823
    @andreasjonsson5823 3 роки тому +17

    Amazing interview. Jay is a legend and one of the great masters of music - guitar playing, producing, engineering, songwriting and also singing with my favorite Airplay! What a brilliant mind. Thanks for this Ben!

  • @thomasjdigennosr7370
    @thomasjdigennosr7370 2 роки тому +6

    His solo on Manhattan Transfers Twilight Zone is amazing!A great talent and cool person!

  • @robdowler
    @robdowler 3 роки тому +6

    “Nothing you can do about it “s An Awesome tune! 🎹👏

  • @bassaniobrokenhart5045
    @bassaniobrokenhart5045 2 роки тому +2

    Like many people, I got to Jay through the Peg solo. In those years, this kind of information was not easy to get. You'd ask around, get your hands in any magazine with an article about Steely Dan, or a book -if you were lucky and had the money-. It took me years, until finally I found out. These days, kids have it real easy. And that's wonderful. It's a real gift that videos like this are available just like that. Sitting at home. And this interview with Jay is probably the best I've seen. Thank you, Ben!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for watching!

  • @polkmusic
    @polkmusic 3 роки тому +10

    This was so great. Jay is a legend. So many good stories. What a treasure.

  • @Jonobueno
    @Jonobueno Рік тому +1

    Could listen to this guy for hours. What a great guy.

  • @brandonnelson5739
    @brandonnelson5739 2 роки тому +4

    I love this man he tells it straight like it is. Very knowledgeable and overall great musician

  • @acordesverdes
    @acordesverdes 3 роки тому +8

    What an interview!!!!! I just loved it. You ask the questions which brought the answers I wished to hear, and I've heard now. He talks about his career, the people he got involved with, all the great musicians I learned to love throughout the years, not forgetting the tips he gave us in how he worked around the songs to make them what they are. Great musician, great producer, great interviewer. Congratulations in your interview, the enthusiasm found in both of you, I felt the same way, there were parts in the interview I enjoyed so much, I felt an obligation in push the back buttom to hear again, either to learn something or because I liked the way things were said.... I loved all the way.... Thanks...... Joe (in Brazil)

  • @sampizzi4545
    @sampizzi4545 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you so much Ben and Jay for this incredible documentary.

  • @davidnorman4923
    @davidnorman4923 2 роки тому +2

    Jay is one of the greats in a long line of musicians from a great era in music! He's a super player and producer! Peg alone is a calling card! The Jarreau album is so cool! Loved reading the album credits back in the 70s and early 80s seeing his name along with David Foster Lukather Ritenour Dean parks Ray Parker was always a treat! I buy cds and will continue to! Great interview!

  • @enricomarconi8358
    @enricomarconi8358 Рік тому

    6what a legend Jay Graydon and what a great musician. I hope you go ahead and start putting into video all these stories or they'll be lost forever Jay!!

  • @bellican48
    @bellican48 3 роки тому +2

    Wow much thanks to you, 🙏❤️🎧🎶🎶🎶

  • @adamglasser-t1s
    @adamglasser-t1s Рік тому

    Brilliant wonderful interview thanks so much Jay and Ben!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Рік тому

      Thanks so much for watching!

  • @sampowellmusic
    @sampowellmusic Рік тому +1

    This interview was so entertaining!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Рік тому

      Thanks so much for watching! Aside from being a brilliant musician, Jay is also a great storyteller! 😀

    • @sampowellmusic
      @sampowellmusic Рік тому

      @@beneunson he was funny while being extremely informative

  • @junoroxas
    @junoroxas 5 місяців тому

    Jay would be great to interview. 2 questions and you’ve got 3 hours worth. Love ya Jay. Legend.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  5 місяців тому

      Absolutely! What a joy to talk to him, he's brilliant!

  • @gregtheos9309
    @gregtheos9309 Рік тому

    Jay is brilliant. He has had an unreal musical career because of that.

  • @michaelferreri1256
    @michaelferreri1256 3 роки тому +1

    Jay Graydon is the coolest guy on the planet. I love his stories which he tells with flair and honesty. LOVE this stuff man. And Ben’s playing is just insanely creative and dazzling.
    Thanks for posting this.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Michael, so glad you enjoyed it

  • @walidrourou5493
    @walidrourou5493 Рік тому

    He is a Giant. All the albums I love, he appears on them. Awesome! Very happy to have found this very interesting interview of the Legendary Jay Graydon.

  • @ronfrey5327
    @ronfrey5327 2 роки тому +1

    I would love to speak to Jay in person and pick his brain about reading music and position .
    This is the best interview ever glued..

  • @sqeakgeek
    @sqeakgeek Рік тому +2

    He said something here VERY important about getting out because of MUSIC being FREE now & he is right !! except for minimal royalties from Tunecore unless as an Indie Artist I can have HUGE hit , Spotify & UA-cam have put an end to selling your songs as an album or one at a time!!!! In the last ten years I found this to be TRUE!!! The 20 years before that it was not true.

  • @aaroncampbell8303
    @aaroncampbell8303 3 роки тому +3

    One of the greatest guitarist ever!

    • @ralex3697
      @ralex3697 Рік тому

      Great creative session musician

  • @nearlysteviedan1275
    @nearlysteviedan1275 2 роки тому +1

    What a great interview. JG is such an articulate guy & clearly a sharp cookie. Good selection of questions too

  • @lazarusolsson2725
    @lazarusolsson2725 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this stunning interview with this legend of all times! It is not often you get deadlocked to a post like this on the tube - but this one is a must for all of us that grew up with the west coast era and all the fantastic cats behind the masterpieces from those days. Just like reading Luke´s "Gospel..." book this interview gives you some marvellous behind-the-scenes stories from Jay - thanks to Ben asking the right questions! And just to quote and honor the great late Al Jarreau - this whole clip was So Good!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +2

      So glad you enjoyed it! And yes - Steve Lukather’s book was incredible, I read it in one sitting!

  • @stephenbirks6458
    @stephenbirks6458 3 роки тому +13

    Would love it if Jay could could get the music docu project off th ground !

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +1

      I would love it as well! I hope it happens

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother 3 роки тому +6

    43:19 quite a bit beyond excellent. benson, jay, and nile rogers are responsible for my life long love of playing guitar. when i was a baby radio was peg, turn your love around, and good times. tv was also good times.

  • @GPLP335
    @GPLP335 2 роки тому +1

    I just love listening to Jay. He has so many amazing experiences, insights, and fun stories to share. Thanks so much man!

  • @Meemorp_
    @Meemorp_ 3 роки тому +4

    Oh snap! This is awesome!

  • @RonZabrocki
    @RonZabrocki 3 роки тому +8

    This is fantastic! One of my early heroes!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Ron! One of my heroes as well

    • @timdehuff4301
      @timdehuff4301 3 роки тому

      that's the best interview I've ever heard it's informative entertaining funny and I always had the most respect for Jay really well done I set my car in my driveway and listen to the whole thing great job!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +1

      @@timdehuff4301 thanks for watching!

  • @ronfrey5327
    @ronfrey5327 2 роки тому +1

    Superb humane being and monster player .. Great interview...

  • @marklevy8337
    @marklevy8337 3 роки тому +1

    I love Ted Greene. He was such a wonderful teacher and an even better person...btw I also love Jay and Ben too!

  • @MrNYaksich
    @MrNYaksich 2 роки тому +11

    If you never heard Jay's work on Alphonse Mouzon's album "Mind Transplant" it's well worth a listen. Lee Ritenour and Tommy Bolin are on this record as well...

  • @rocketpost1
    @rocketpost1 Рік тому

    Great interview and even though there was a lot of technical stuff, I was not bored at all. Jay is a great talker and I loved his story of him telling George Benson that he wasn't the right guitarist for a particular track. I hope that Jay manages to get his directory of session players together.

  • @gsmeeuwsen
    @gsmeeuwsen 3 роки тому +3

    If you have a solo on a Steely Dan album, you're a MONSTER!!!

  • @stephenbirks6458
    @stephenbirks6458 3 роки тому +11

    One hell of a musician ! - Love the way Jay tells his stories !
    The BBC did a 2 part docu. called " I can go for that : the smooth world of yacht rock."
    about how all the great music we loved to listen to back then - Got clumpped together as "Yacht Rock " ? - So all the kids nowadays know great music as Yacht Rock ? - And they think its always been called that ? Ha !
    And on one snippet in the 2nd docu - Steve Lukather & Steve Pocaro from Toto were telling their stories about their Band & Songs etc - And Jays name came up ! - Mainly about when Jay was writing a song for George Benson ! - Jay had 4 days to write a song ! - He had been sat at the piano and had hit a brick wall his mind was blank ! - For two days nothing - And he went to the Can & While sat their on the can - The opening riff to what would be "Turn your love around" ! - And Steve Lukather tells this story ! - The only way Steve Lukathor could haha ?
    I love George Benson - What a Guitarist - But when I hear this track - "Turn your love around " - In my mind I just cannot get that guy Jay Graydon sat on his crapper ! - Composing & coming up with this great song - Just cannot get him out of my mind ! - Haha !
    I really wonder what George thinks about this song while he's singing it ? - Does he know where it was composed ?
    Hey back in the day ! - We took for granted that Pot was used by some * in the writing of music & lyrics (even books) - But not that Pot you sit on ? Haha !
    SB British Isles * please note I'm not implying that anyone I've mentioned here has ever used Pot !
    Great Interview love it ! - Well done Ben !!

  • @cryptooooooooo
    @cryptooooooooo 3 роки тому +3

    so much wisdom here!! amazing

  • @steveberti7060
    @steveberti7060 3 роки тому +2

    This interview is the Best Thanks Ben .Jay Graydon is up with the best Guitar players in the world very funny regarding Perfect pitch love his use of chord structures which is how i compose songs made we feel so good ( Chuck Magione)my Favourite Guitar Music interview

  • @RBC2_
    @RBC2_ 3 роки тому +2

    Great idea !!

  • @salm7225
    @salm7225 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome stuff

  • @JimFothergill
    @JimFothergill 2 роки тому +1

    That was a great interview!!!! Thank you!!!!!

  • @rabbieg123
    @rabbieg123 3 роки тому +1

    Man I'm glad I found this channel... insane chops and music geeks just geeking out.. and a fantastic interview with a legend. So cool to see so much mutual respect and humility.

  • @pere4487
    @pere4487 2 роки тому

    Very interesting conversation. Thanks Ben.

  • @tonyaxtell9216
    @tonyaxtell9216 3 роки тому +2

    Great interview, Ben!

  • @seekingwisdom8
    @seekingwisdom8 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this great conversation. Jay is a regular guy, reminds me of hanging with my own friends, other than his great success, endless depth of musical knowledge and creative talent. I don’t know if it’s part of a person’s genetic code, but virtually every musician I know talks just like Jay. We refer to individuals as “cat”, we say “dig” relative to appreciating or enjoying something and most express the same level of excitement as Jay when meeting a gifted player. Jay really impressed me the way he recognized and encourages other musicians. I’ve encountered many who are petty or jealous of people who have more skills or talent. I’ve quit more bands than I can recall rather than deal with egomaniacs. Ashamed to admit, when I was 19, I went to audition for a band, but after the audition, I told them I wasn’t interested because I was “better” than they were and wanted to play with cats who were better than me. In hindsight, I made the right choice for me, but I’ve never been the kind of guy to bluntly say “…I’m too good for you…” in anything.
    The Al Jarreau albums he collaborated on were the soundtrack to my life in the 80s. At the time, I didn’t pay attention to who played or produced the music, I just dug it. This was a treat, thank you so much.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching, Jim!

  • @DavidB-rx3km
    @DavidB-rx3km 2 роки тому +1

    Of all the Graydon-esque guitar parts I've heard, the very last guitar part of 'Cryin' All Night' by Airplay is just pure Graydon, it's fantastic.

  • @hummarstraful
    @hummarstraful Рік тому

    Such an interesting guy with amazing insights into music and recording.

  • @tomcoryell
    @tomcoryell 3 роки тому +1

    Great interview Ben! I’m a huge Jay Graydon fan. There’s a reason my studio has NS1000s in it……

  • @eamonnmorris5331
    @eamonnmorris5331 2 роки тому

    A legend ... and humble too! Great interview.

  • @TheMusicWiz
    @TheMusicWiz 3 роки тому +1

    Loved it...thanks!

  • @twominutepianoman9868
    @twominutepianoman9868 2 роки тому +3

    I thoroughly enjoyed every second of this incredible interview, thank you for making this happen. Would have loved to hear much more about the Airplay album in 1980. Jay is awesome and of course I could talk to him for hours if I could (like you said). Heading out to Malibu in a couple weeks…would love to meet him.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it.

  • @ItayZ93
    @ItayZ93 3 роки тому +2

    Great interview

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets 2 роки тому +1

    He’s the Einstein of music production.

  • @LeonFeldmanMusic
    @LeonFeldmanMusic 3 роки тому

    So glad this exists!!!

  • @JM-gz7ji
    @JM-gz7ji 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing. Thanks for doing this!

  • @oranjuly
    @oranjuly Рік тому +1

    Thanks for talking about "Paradise"." Lite Me Up is one of Herbie's best. The album is a lost gem. Incredible chord changes.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  Рік тому

      Thanks so much for watching! I had to ask Jay about it as I’d never heard him discuss it before, and it’s such an interesting addition to Herbie’s discography - a lost gem indeed!

  • @katsafone
    @katsafone 3 роки тому +1

    Great work here Ben. Sis tells me that Jay has been talking about doing an interview in the land down under for some time now and to me, you've nailed it. As you've found out, he has so many stories to tell, not to mention his brilliant and highly esteemed abilities as a player, composer and producer of top quality music. Excellent stuff, take care and best wishes for the future.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +2

      So glad you enjoyed it, thank you!

    • @katsafone
      @katsafone 3 роки тому

      @@beneunson love your playing too. Jay is right - he doesn't give praise unless he loves what you do. Keep it up, been listening to your take on Giant Steps.

  • @williamlenihan7536
    @williamlenihan7536 3 роки тому +1

    Great job! Great interview!

  • @abfranklin8492
    @abfranklin8492 2 роки тому

    "You're gonna become a jazzer? What are you going to do with that?" So true.

  • @docfuzzpersonalcollection5927

    Thank you! Big Fan!

  • @andytupaia
    @andytupaia 3 роки тому +1

    Hey thanks for the video I have to say that I’m a Rhodes guy still have my 88 suitcase mark 1 but I think I’m gonna buy the E Rhodes from Jay can’t wait to have it in my studio

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +1

      thanks for watching! The E is fantastic, I use it myself and it sounds great!

  • @dennisjohndreher7258
    @dennisjohndreher7258 3 роки тому +4

    Jay is a legend. Check out his work with Marc Jordan ( Blue Dessert). & Cory Wells ( Hard Times)

    • @pere4487
      @pere4487 2 роки тому +2

      Blue Desert is one of my top three albums. I would recommend “Knock the Walls Down” by Steve Kipner for more Graydon (on git and as producer).

    • @dennisjohndreher7258
      @dennisjohndreher7258 2 роки тому +2

      @@pere4487 I have that one, Jay at his best on "the ending"

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome Interview Ben🎸《☆》I gotta find Jays channel👍✔He's probably the Cat with perfect pitch🖖🤓🏈

  • @Kritikateur
    @Kritikateur 3 роки тому +1

    "....Amongst the Arts, Music is the most powerful one because can make you happy or make you cry and yet, it's just a Sound that you can't even see!"
    (Arthur Schopenhauer)
    Carus Alambra

  • @ralex3697
    @ralex3697 Рік тому

    Jay Graydon and Louie Shelton = legends

  • @karlsalocks
    @karlsalocks 3 роки тому +1

    This guy was and is such a pro

  • @uptownphotography
    @uptownphotography 2 роки тому

    Jay has some really cool interesting stories. Glad he could share them with all of us out here...Nice job Ben and thanks Jay!
    Phil
    NYC Area

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching, Phil!

    • @uptownphotography
      @uptownphotography 2 роки тому

      @@beneunson My pleasure Ben...
      Did Jay ever get a channel on here. I couldn't find it if he did....All the best.
      Phil
      NYC Area

  • @Thom726
    @Thom726 3 роки тому +2

    Great interview Ben. I’m always struck with how self effacing Jay is (also positive). Great guy! I would love to see the movie/biopic he wants to put together.

  • @Ericejazz
    @Ericejazz 2 роки тому

    great interview! thanks for sharing this!

  • @janetremsing6988
    @janetremsing6988 2 роки тому +9

    Al Jarreau’s “Breaking Away” is still a phenomenal Jazz-Pop album!!!!! 👍🙂

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  2 роки тому +3

      It is! An incredible album and one of my favorites!!

  • @gitarmats
    @gitarmats 3 роки тому +1

    Great interview! Would be cool to see you do more of them!

  • @ue4058
    @ue4058 2 роки тому

    Highest compliments to you for this outstanding interview.

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for watching!

  • @erajad
    @erajad 2 роки тому +1

    Only complaint: too short! :)) Would have loved to hear more about his gear-or rather, his relationship with the builders. Mr Graydon is the reason I owned a Rivera R55-12. Best amp I ever had.

  • @moshezarviv1252
    @moshezarviv1252 2 роки тому

    that was great ben ! by the way you deserve all the compliments jay adressed to you ! (suscribed)

  • @k.padraigokane1472
    @k.padraigokane1472 2 роки тому

    Fabulous interview!

  • @nickkellie
    @nickkellie 3 роки тому +1

    Incredible interview!

  • @Haku_records
    @Haku_records 3 роки тому +1

    So cool to see! Big love homie

  • @tel5690
    @tel5690 3 роки тому

    Love,love Jay
    First hearing him in the early 80's.
    He is a huge influence and inspiration to me.
    Plus he Steve Lukather best bud...

  • @barrygeer4330
    @barrygeer4330 6 місяців тому

    That track with Rita Coolidge was amazing!

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for watching!

    • @barrygeer4330
      @barrygeer4330 6 місяців тому

      The track was called” the jealous kind” sung by Rita Coolidge.

  • @jujjeelf309
    @jujjeelf309 2 роки тому

    Graydon´s playing on Steve Kipner´s "Knock the Walls Down" and the Marc Jordan "Blue Desert" album, is unbelievable.

  • @JoeCandidoGuitar
    @JoeCandidoGuitar 3 роки тому +3

    Nice those two Yamaha NS1000!

    • @tomcoryell
      @tomcoryell 3 роки тому

      I have a pair in my studio. Love them! I spotted them at a pawn shop in the ‘90’s. The guy didn’t know what he had and I got them for next to nothing. They are heavy as heck though!

    • @johnanthony6201
      @johnanthony6201 2 роки тому

      I have a pair. Pretty much a waste on my now because I'm 100% deaf in one ear!

  • @RP-hq4ec
    @RP-hq4ec 2 роки тому

    "Hired gun" documentary should be part 1 of docuseries.

  • @ukiahsguitarsolos3436
    @ukiahsguitarsolos3436 2 роки тому

    Interesting interview.

  • @ubermenschstream6765
    @ubermenschstream6765 2 роки тому

    hey ben, you really good at this interview stuff.

  • @kurtbanff9724
    @kurtbanff9724 2 роки тому

    I had a Ted Green chord book .the best

  • @Dave13185
    @Dave13185 2 роки тому

    What a guy

  • @skattman11
    @skattman11 3 роки тому

    wonderful Jay Graydon. ..i d wish to send you my song ( Happy to have Keith Carlock on board) and to have your opinion... I adore your guitare playing... Mr.Gregg

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets 2 роки тому +1

    This guy is a goddamn genius. Case closed.

  • @livek9872
    @livek9872 2 роки тому

    I know Jay played on a lot of great music for many artists, but I'm a little surprised he didn't mention his work on some of Gino Vanelli's albums, especially 'Gist of The Gemini" and "Storm at Sunup!

  • @robertstrobel7237
    @robertstrobel7237 2 роки тому

    Yes.

  • @Babesyann
    @Babesyann 3 роки тому

    Sir Jay, when are you going to show your channel here in
    UA-cam?

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +1

      Jay's channel will be coming in the next couple of months 😀

  • @merlin5420
    @merlin5420 Рік тому

    Hope Jay gets do make this documentary

  • @heidegger101
    @heidegger101 3 роки тому +2

    damn, he's looking and sounding good for 72

  • @christianboyadjiev1738
    @christianboyadjiev1738 4 місяці тому

    Jay, I beg you pardon, don't forget Milcho Leviev (piano & arrangements) in the two incredible albums Breaking Away and Mecca for Moderns...

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  4 місяці тому +1

      Brilliant pianist, I loved his playing with Billy Cobham

  • @sumoblues
    @sumoblues 3 роки тому +1

    was anxiously waiting for an update on JaRII ☹

    • @beneunson
      @beneunson  3 роки тому +3

      Good question- I spoke to Jay briefly about it and he says it’s on the way! I may post a short part 2 of some extra things we discussed, including JaR

  • @carlsalazar4490
    @carlsalazar4490 3 роки тому +1

    I love the story of the E Rhodes. I saw a video on You Tube that went through history of the Rhodes and they talked about those special Rhodes pianos. I always liked the like sound of the Rhodes. Never liked the sound the DX7.