Current & Former Caesar's Legion Members React To A Female Courier In Fallout New Vegas Timestamps: Cato 0:00 Otho 0:20 Siri 0:50 Ulysses 1:16 Lucullus 2:22
Love the line delivery by Ulysses after "Is that why you're not Legion, then?" Simply due to the fact you can hear his smile, seems he actually got a kick out of it.
@@chadkingoffuckmountain970 what I dont get is how Ulysses saw what Vulpes did to break the Twisted Hairs and erasing his tribal identity, and then Ulysses was going to do the same thing to the White Legs and it didn't bother him. Not until they copied his tribal hair to impress him which caused him to snap
+roy kennedy Didn't really matter cause he didn't enjoy it, he felt guilty, threw the bag on the temple floor when they refused to undo their deal, and then hanged himself with his belt by a nearby tree. Kinda sad really
oof--- next I'll hear Legionnaires ignorantly griping about the price of fuel... blaming it on Kimball even though fuel hasn't been PRODUCED in any meaningful way since decades before Kimball was even born XD
Pretty dumb writing on Obsidian's part to be honest. If they wanted to tell a feminist story where the Legion gets btfo by a girl, they shouldn't contradict previously established lore to do it.
Well the women is the last prisoner which is a ncr women who has killed all other legionaries who fought her. It’s not contradictory, it just shows that to be a combatant you either have to be a prisoner or a legionary male
@@thenotoriousnephi4308 did you not hear what he said? Only slaves an legion in the area you aren't legion an aren't a slave why would they let you fight there's nothing contradictory about it the woman in the area is a slave
@@JohnSmith-ot4hq well to be fair that correctly describes a majority of the legion fanboys,I used to work with a guy who loved the legion and got a tattoo of the abbreviation for the ancient Roman government on his chest so I have first hand experience in this lol.
@@doubledouble4g379 Sounds like something I would write to be honest "The flickering fire flies small coals in heat as the Heiress walks up the Grand Altar by a greying Caesar. It would've pandemonium and noise if she wasn't recognized for her deeds during the battle of Hoover of Dam, her sole achievement of racking a thousands corpses along the highway 95, from New Vegas to Searchlight the corpses lined up as her achievements were brutal and her instrumental mind sabotaged major routes and Technology more than a fingers can count."
@@buwanbuwaya6927 I can't remember who says it, but they say 'The Legion changes as it marches west' and absorbs more tribes. I'm sure considering his age and the tumour , Caesar is looking for a potential successor to keep the Legion together. The Courier would fit that bill considering they manage to unite or conquer the factions in the Mojave pretty-much single-handedly. We'll never know, of course, since Obsidian only had six days to finish the game :/
Caesar wants the legion to change though. He wants to absorb ncr and its people under a new idiology. He had to use brute force to form the legion but he wants way more than just an army.
"a few legionnaires were talking about TRYING YOU OUT" Guess the Legion is gonna have a few troops going AWOL then... because they'll NEVER find the bodies... maybe a few eyeballs and some visceral gore... but I won't leave enough to identify ^_^
@@someman66 It's really sad that they tripped and fell to the ground with such force that their flesh and bones were ground to a pulp, limbs severed and thrown in all directions. Real freak incident.
I like that the game wasn't afraid to make direct references to rape. Makes worlds feels so much more authentic and lived in when they're not Disneyfied and have real life shit happening in them.
@@VulpesVvardenfell I only play on very hard + hardcore, and also make it a point to disable all the Courier stashes. So I wouldn't have a snowball chance in heck killing the Legion at Nelson... 🤣
Last I remember, you need a weapon between your legs to carry one for Caesar. 😷 Is that why you're no longer legion? 💁🏻♀ 👁👄👁 The absolute barbarity in Lonesome Road
1:40 references Judas receiving 30 pieces of silver from the Romans in exchange to giving up Jesus to them. Considered the biggest traitor in the Christian faith. Just a fun fact if you weren't aware of it
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Nope, doesn’t make him any less of a criminal or a traitor. An evil act isn’t any less evil just because it had indirectly good results, and you’d know that if you had any moral sense yourself.
Never mind that edgelords who talk about "taking the red pill" lifted slang from a sci-fi movie made by two trans women. The red pill in the Matrix movies is a stand-in for medical-grade estrogen. That red pill? Premarin, which comes in a literal red pill. Premarin is the estrogen that was most commonly prescribed to trans women and transfeminine nonbinary people in the '90s.
You know- I didn't know it at the time cause I was doing an NCR route over a Legion route (and only played through once of FO:NV) but playing as a female courier...and ultimately going to fight Caesar is now more hilarious... because of all companions I had brought Veronica who punched his head off before I could get the last hit in. Now I think it was rightfully done on her part
Honestly a female legionary courier would probabaly result in women gaining new rights within the legion as by minting a coin with the couriers image Caesar is effectively putting them on the same level of himself and the other mythical heroes and founders of the legion, and by making a woman one of the legions founding myths who knows maybe it might bring about change especially considering what Ulysses says about the legion changing as it moves west.
it could possibly shift the perception of women to be a bit more positive in the legion maybe, but I doubt it would improve their situation in the way of rights. you gotta remember in the real world that there were hundreds of female Empresses, Queens, Baroness' and Ladys that directly influenced the governance of numerous nations, kingdoms and empires, without really making any substantial change so far as women's rights were concerned.
@@Groobis I would argue that, there is a possibility the game does not give us a full picture of what living under legionary rule looks like I am not saying the legion is a fair society when it comes to gender rights by any means, and they are certainly much less progressive compared to the ncr (which go so far with it i would say it would harm their society in their home territories hard in the long run. Why conscript female soldiers when the male ones are biologically more expendable and physically more fit for the job? But fallout was never a super realistic focused post apocalyptic universe so i will chalk it up to that ). The only legion area you get to visit is a military encampment, where all of the women seem to be slaves or servants, that move with the armies and there doesnt seem to be any wifes or families of the soldiers in the camp so they are probably at home. This was a thing that also happened in the real life roman legions its why a century was called that despite only having 80 fighting men in it the other 20 were slaves, but a legionary encampment was not a real picture of how society in actual roman towns, villages and cities worked. So i would argue that the same might apply here, while the status of women under legion rule is very very probably not great and they are certainly not viewed as equal, it could very well be less dire than what´s depicted here, where at the very least they don´t have to be worried about being constantly sexually assaulted like the woman in the video said and can very possible live relatively normal lives. But alas they did not show actual legion territories in the game. I heard they intended to at one point but it got cut due to time constraints. It would have been fascinating to see for better or for worse how the average person under ceasar´s rule lived. Though their customs were probably not completely uniform since the societies under caesar consist of many conquered tribes with their own customs adding to it probably as well .
@@svfin while its true that we only really get to see military installations from the Legion in NV. I dont think using actual Roman society to base what Legion society would be like is very reliable, as the Legion really only resembles Rome superficially. Remember, the faction isn't called "Ceaser's Empire" or "Ceaser's Rome," it's Ceaser's LEGION. by Ceaser's own admission, there really isn't much else to the Legion other than the military. given how Ceaser and especially Lanius talk about the way they conquer territories, its pretty clear that the Legion assimilates people and territories as a means of "Extracting resources" more so than Expanding their area of Governance/influence. and to a faction that is more or less centered entire around it's military, Slaves are far more valuable than free citizens. Part of Ceaser's (very flimsy) justification for why he wants to take Vegas, and destroy the NCR, is that he believes that by conquering and absorbing NCR territory, His Legion will transform from a wandering army, to an actual functioning society made up of the best parts of both the NCR and the Legion. however, just Because that's his goal for the future, doesn't mean his society is run like that in the 'present'
@@Groobis Yeah true caesar's society is not meant to be completely 1:1 modeled after roman society, what i meant with that roman legion example was to give you a real life example of how life in a military encampment would look a lot different from a life in roman villages, towns etc. But to your point about caesar's legion's conquered territories. The lore states, that caesar's legion is not exclusively a conquering, enslaving and directly subjugating force it does let a lot of settlements in it's territory mostly live their own lives, relatively untouched with a degree of autonomy as long as their pay their tributes and submit to overall legion authority a bunch of whom are way more modern than the tribal based legionary culture. And Caesar does also severely punish legion rulers who mismanage or exploit the people they are supposed to be watching over, knowing that if the people under his command don't actually h. So in legion territory a lot of settlements live relatively autonomously, they are protected from raiders and the roads are also kept safe so they can trade very safely. So caesar's ruling is also a bit different than one might assume from a glance at least in a fair amount of the settlements under it's control and from what it appears legionary rule is not unpopular in areas under it's control so one might say he already has a functioning society to some extent, though definitely not the most stable considering caesar dying would probably destabilize the whole thing and even if there is not a civil war the successor would probably not be as intelligent as caesar was and would probably mishandle the system of governing caesar set in place only focusing on conquest and military matters. It is similiar to how rome managed it's territories. People often assume, that Rome just painted the map red, conquered, enslaved and romanized everyone they came across, but a fair bit of the time they left the territories they ruled with a fair bit of autonomy often ruled by local rulers but still subordinate to the provincial roman governor, but the fact stands that a lot of the people were mostly left to manage their own matters locally. But yeah caesar's legion is definitely not 1:1 remake of rome especially since his army and thus the culture of the army seems to be mostly tribal based and thus are pretty much a different people from the other more modern settlements under legionary rule, which would probably cause a lot of conflict, if caesar didn't balance the equation, but it is a problem that will probably surface once caesar dies.
@@svfin honestly the Legion resembles less like the Roman Empire and more like the nomadic Mongol Empire who would subjugate cities who surrendered and burn down and enslave the population of the cities that don’t
Hearing Ulysses chuckle is incredibly cathartic for me. He's so angsty about the Divide and the war in the Mojave that hearing him dip into a moment of levity feels soothing, even if for a moment. God, hes way too hot for my own good
i love how Otho is like "women are beneath notice and unworthy to fight in the arena", but also the strongest figther in his arena is a female ranger who has defeated every legionary thats challenged her
@@renegade7548 yes, women are capable of being serial killers, is that shocking? Plenty of men and women who have ill intentions end up as police officers, nurses doctors etc. Serial killing is not exclusive to one gender.
@@renegade7548 Maybe because that industry is mostly women? Wow what a shock, who would've thought. Majority of overall serial killers are men, and men are much more likely to commit murder than women.
The problem with the Legion is most of its fanbase don't even care a understanding their Hegelian and Social Darwinist philosophy, they just side with legion because they despise women. Cringe.
@@Ituasmi Shame that there can't be something in the middle (the NCR isn't extreme at all though, it works for the joke but they just let women be available to serve as soldiers or politicians like the men, not some woke actions and mentality bs).
@@andryuu_2000 nah i am not a guy who always goes the legion route because i say they are based and hate women i like how the legion tries to bring a great empire back from the dead and if you think about it the legion could become a republic like rome if they ever survive and i am not saying legion good hehe i also take the mr house route because he knows prewar stuff more than the NCR plus he is smart and immortal then we have yes man
@@dusk6159 Yeah the NCR looks and sounds fine the other problems is that they have a shit currency, taxes, and if you see the other members of the NCR they are doing Illegal stuff and also trying to bring back the same old world that dropped the N word and worst of all *THEY ARE A DEMOCRACY*
@@duxect2862 like what? Creating a Luddite slave society that would only be stable with a strongman with certain philosophical knowledge that said society bans in charge?
@@fireball-yj8fl he did say that women are physically inferior which is true and also that they are mentally inferior, I think men I the legion would also have better war tactics than women, I don't agree with anything else the legion believes
Ever notice everybody who does this is always a low status legionary? Vulpes, Lanius, Caesar Pheonix and Lucius all never bring it up, for example. It was supposed to be revealed by Caesar that he doesn't really have a bureaucracy, so he just split the nation into sex roles so he had half the nation maintain the state the the other half expand it. He was fine with people taking a less fixed role in society once he conquers the NCR, but until then he needs his tribals to be split up like this. But I guess the tribal superstition and low class understanding doesn't just go away. Caesar can tell a legionary what to do, but he can't explain why it's important. He can't sit down with legionaries and explain what utilitarianism is, so instead he goes "fuck it, as long as you understand the orders who cares if you understand the reasoning" I think that's a really cool take on the antagonists rather than just being meanies who do bad things because their leader is evil.
I mean, they still do bad things to a lot of people, just because they don't follow Caesar's ideologies. No matter how "noble" his goals might be, their methods are no better than the average raider, and if history has taught us something is that barbarism never lead us to anywhere good.
@@MAC-0 I would definitely say that idea is something that applies to basically all groups in the Mojave, especially the NCR and House. Not to excuse any Legion crimes, but just to say "he who is without sin"
@@MAC-0 they do bad things to their enemies, the ncr. When you argue that the legion is evil then so is the ncr and both evil factions are at war with each other and do some horrible shit to ppl like the ncr with the khans or the kings. Then you have the ability to talk to ppl that live under legions rule and theyre all happy because the roads are safe, they have no taxation and degenerate things like drugs and gambling are strictly forbidden. When you talk to ppl about the ncr you always hear they are the good guys but extremely incompetent and as mentioned sometimes straight up worse killers than the legion
I always thought they never really got the idea that Caesar seperates men and women for efficiency sake as you can't have the same people who bear future soldiers to also fight alongside them, not in a sort of prejudice manner. They seem to just be conditioned to think "women = below men" when simply it's much more. I guess Caesar's initial idea gets lost when most of your army are a bunch of tribal men who've been forcefully assimilated and raised since childhood and still hold some childish values. Cut content also reveals there would've been towns and such with civilians, men and women alike. So it's not like all women in the Legion would be slaves.
Even Cato Hostilius is just mildly surprised they would bring a woman in but then is just happy and helpful all the way. Realistically most spec ops soldiers today would have his same reaction
since I always play a female character, I can never play the legion because roleplaying is a big deal to me and I can't see any of my characters join the only faction in the game who treats women like shit
@@PowerfulWizard even then, since your character is free at the start of the game, she would have no reason to side with the legion again. She's free to pick a faction who will treat her better, aka literally any other faction
@@PowerfulWizard not something I would play either. I just like pmaying characters in full possession of their brains and if I made an exception for a dumb playthrough, I still wouldn't feel ok to make her join the legion Yeah there are ways to make a female courier in the legion somewhat make sense but not a single one suits me
You can Take over the Legion but the faction seems to BE a Bit too cartoonishly evil and Not much developed since they seem all to BE the Same . They really should have taken way more inspirations from History have factions within the Legion different Characters maybe the Legion civilians and in my opinion instead of a bunch Raiders in Roman Cosplay make them instead NCR Rebels which would make more Sense and BE better Storywise than a bunch of Raiders with No real Connection to the NCR, Just Imagine the Story Drama and maybe after Caesar dies you could Play a Triumvirate Game to Fight to BE Augustus or Augusta
super late reply here but it looks like they're running an enb, not sure which one though. they got them on the nexus if you're still interested over a year later lol
The Legion talk down to your female courier, meanwhile, as a player of a female courier myself, I can't count the number of legion bodies that I'd stepped over.
@@daltongarrett3393Me too, but in a nuclear wasteland the rules of the game begin to change. You are putting a moral reason before a practical benefit. That is why the NCR is in decline.
@@CirnoFan04 the NCR is in decline because of the corrosive influence of markets on democracy, but even in their decline they still afford their citizens a quality of life and level of freedom not seen since before the war. The legion in its prime is a Luddite fascist empire populated in majority by slaves, which brutalizes everyone under its dominion, and is held together entirely by one pseudo-intellectual LARPing hypocrite with a brain tumor that’s making him even more deranged and will end him any day now, resulting in the complete collapse of his empire.
@@CirnoFan04 the NCR is in decline because of the corrosive influence of markets on democracy, but even in their decline they still afford their citizens a quality of life and level of freedom not seen since before the war. The legion in its prime is a Luddite f@scist empire populated in majority by slaves, which brutalizes everyone under its dominion, and is held together entirely by one pseudo-intellectual LARPing hypocrite with a brain tumor that’s making him even more deranged and will end him any day now, resulting in the complete collapse of his empire.
Same, first play through I thought they were the main foes of the game so I just started blasting. Ooooh boy was Ceaser ever pissed when he talked me. Didn’t kill him cause it was a house play through.
To be fair, a Woman as powerful and skillful as the courier has nothing to fear from the fuckboys in the Legion What are they gonna do? sneak up on you at night only to get turned into a pretzel by your super mutant Grandma?
So sad that the legionaries accidentally detonated a small nuclear warhead on themselves while tied to a tree, blindfolded. Guess they never got to try the courier out huh?
once I got the mark of caesar, I tried my hardest to bite my tongue and go see him maybe just to see if I could talk him down or reason with him then and there but as soon as I heard the words of the guy manning the boat (the last clip) I introduced him to the less diplomatic end of my riot shotgun.
@@wyntertheicewyvern6226 I guess I never bothered to learn about Romans because they took so much of their beliefs, lifestyle and tradition from the Greeks. So par for the course that Caeser's Legion borrowed their culture from a culture that is borrowed from another culture.
It will inevitably make women feel less useless and men think twice before using them as mere objects. Still the structure would be the classic men fight and build, women take care of children. Primitive but functional, as long it's respectful it's not THAT bad.
The effect wouldn't last long. I doubt the courier could hold together the Legion after Caesar dies, but when the tribes break into factions again, it would likely have a effect on one of them and cause it to either predominantly female or even for both genders. It would change nothing in the Legion with the time it has left.
Female courier gonna be like: “Cesar you’ll make me an exception in your system” C: “Why?” Courier: “Outside of helping you shit tone of times I haven’t used those possibilities to kill you. Meaning that I’m loyal enough and capable enough” Cesar: “That’s fair but…” Courier: “I’m also tomboy” Cesar: “Vulpex , bring me an fucking paper , NOW”
The fact the Legion distributes a golden Legion coin with the female Legion Courier's face on it. Should prove to ALL of the Legion, that women are more than slaves. Even with Legate Lanius in charge that happens! So it very much is the beginning of more equal rights between men and women in the Legion.
@@PerfectAlibi1 There was cut concept showing Legion towns and such with civilians, both men and women. So it's not like all women are slaves, this is just what we ended up with
I remember the first time experiencing this when I played a female character for the first time in New Vegas. Assumed it wouldn’t make a difference, much like every other RPG. Was caught off guard when i was denied from entering the arena in Caesars camp for my characters gender as well as the warning Siri gave me about the two legionaries. Gave something heavy to think about both in game and in the real world…
Walking into the legion as a veritable God of War, 100 melee and unarmed, 10 Str, and everyone acts like you couldn’t push their shit in harder than the Legate just because you’ve an extra X chromosome.
@@snaker9er Do you think any man alive could gib a deathclaw with a sledgehammer? Be real. You don't get to cherry-pick with realism. You either want a video game that's fun or one that's so realistic it isn't fun. The Courier, simply, is not a realistic person. It is fantasy -- you do realize that, right?
@@snaker9er Okay, but it was important to point out. This game is not realistic, and does not depict men or women at their realistic potential. Am I right or am I wrong? Answer me that.
@@ashencometmom5291 I'm a trans woman and I side with Yes Man. Neither Kimball nor Caesar nor House have the best interests of the Mojave in mind. My genius Courier, on the other hand, does.
It's interesting to me, that if you win the day at Hoover Dam as a female Legion courier, you are still granted the honor of being minted on a new Legion coin. This has a lot of implications, biggest of which being that a female champion has been immortalized for the first time in the Legion's history. Which would have long lasting and law-changing effects on the Legion as a whole, especially with women's rights.
@@WikkeSchrandt I know that. Everyone does. They still wouldn't sign off on this today though in 2022. No chance. Whether they made it themselves or contracted it to another studio. Fallout 4 hardly had anything dark just shooting enemies endlessly.
@@breadlover302 Not that dark compared to Fallout 3 or NV at all. Cait lol? Lad I'm Irish. Nothing that fuckin dumb stereotype with her horrendous fake accent was dark or interesting to someone like me.
Legión female courier be like: yes id like to have no rights
Based female courier.
"Rights" don't exist in the wasteland anyway.
It’s pretty clear that Caesar is going to give any courier special privileges, male or female.
You clearly have rights above any of the other legionaries who are all literally slaves regardless of gender.
In Van Buren (the original fallout 3) you can’t even serve the legion unless you are a man; they are automatically hostile to you if you are a girl
Love the line delivery by Ulysses after "Is that why you're not Legion, then?" Simply due to the fact you can hear his smile, seems he actually got a kick out of it.
Even he had a "Damn, that was good." moment.
Really one of those moments when you get roasted so hard even you can appreciate the roast
That line alone is worth trying the Legion. You can still betray them anyways :p
You gotta love it
Gotta love how you managed to get a chuckle from Ulysses!
I didn’t think the man still had a sense of humor
@@theblazingcrusader6322 man's such a giant fanboy for the legion he lost all humor
@@delta2372 To be fair, ain't like he had much choice, his tribe got assimilated.
Holy shit, this guy actually IS capable of human emotion
@@chadkingoffuckmountain970 what I dont get is how Ulysses saw what Vulpes did to break the Twisted Hairs and erasing his tribal identity, and then Ulysses was going to do the same thing to the White Legs and it didn't bother him. Not until they copied his tribal hair to impress him which caused him to snap
i've never heard the line "29 fewer coins than other traitors" this is a reference to Judas who soldout Jesus for 30 silver pieces
Could’ve at least got 50.
@@cowboydoggo6168 he should have asked for gold
+roy kennedy
Didn't really matter cause he didn't enjoy it, he felt guilty, threw the bag on the temple floor when they refused to undo their deal, and then hanged himself with his belt by a nearby tree.
Kinda sad really
@@redeye4516 Didn't he hang himself because he heard Jesus had returned?
@@angrydoggo7160 No. He hanged himself after betraying Jesus because he felt grief for his action.
God the Legion literally just sounds like the voice chat of your average multiplayer game.
oof---
next I'll hear Legionnaires ignorantly griping about the price of fuel... blaming it on Kimball even though fuel hasn't been PRODUCED in any meaningful way since decades before Kimball was even born XD
They never say the n-word, though
@nuthurdu cool story bro
@nuthurdu Dems make the NCR look like effective government.
Even better awe
>"you're a woman you can't join the arena"
Also the arena: has a woman fighting in it
Pretty dumb writing on Obsidian's part to be honest. If they wanted to tell a feminist story where the Legion gets btfo by a girl, they shouldn't contradict previously established lore to do it.
Well the women is the last prisoner which is a ncr women who has killed all other legionaries who fought her.
It’s not contradictory, it just shows that to be a combatant you either have to be a prisoner or a legionary male
@@drivernephisson7034 How’s it contradictory
@@supergamergrill7734 why are you acting as if a possible female courier didn't do that amplified by a billion at that point of the game
@@thenotoriousnephi4308 did you not hear what he said? Only slaves an legion in the area you aren't legion an aren't a slave why would they let you fight there's nothing contradictory about it the woman in the area is a slave
I've played over 1,000+ Hours in NV and I have never heard that Ulysses stuttered.
he almost used a straightforward sentence without tripping on his Trible speech. that's funny as hell
It's fitting that only a women could make a guy like Ulysses stutter
A sight to behold, no doubt.
Catching Mr."I eat 3 packs a day" edgelord courier off-guard was something I didn't know I needed to hear until I heard it. Thank you.
This killed me.
Literally the only time he shuts up.
Sorry I don't know the game that well, which guy?
@@MrLethalShots The guy that eats 3 packs a day, Ulysses
@@SpoonsYT You mean the Lord Bear and Bull of The Divide?
Sick burn for Ulysses. He didn't see that one coming.
That would be the second time the courier met a burned man
@@frloopr ok.
@@frloopr Beat me to it.
@@frlooprBa dum tsss
Real bold words from a faction who got wiped out by my ooga booga 10 str 2 int female courier holding a golf club
Abby?
2 intelligence?!
Why not just 1 intelligence?
You don't HAVE to take all the implants you can get your grubby little hands on...
ooga booga
_TAKE THAT_
_TASTE THE PAIN!_
ooga booga
@@PerfectAlibi1yes, you do have to take all the implants. Lol
@@robertaylor9218
No, you don't
I don’t know what’s more interesting: Ulysses’ comment about a legion woman being a win for the NCR or the fact he knows about Judas.
Oooh, interesting
well surely at least one fricken bible managed survived nuclear fire... SOMEHOW...
@@sch3ffel The Legion would’ve burned any they found and worked out references to it because they are a pagan neonazi state
@@sch3ffel Doesn't Joshua give you one at the end of Honest Hearts?
Yea Eli delivered it
“You don’t understand! I can change the system nonviolently from the inside!”
The system in question:
The legion is basically what happens when you combine 4chan users,Guys weirdly obsessed with the Roman Empire and cosplayers
This comment section really do be exemplifying this point perfectly
@@JohnSmith-ot4hq well to be fair that correctly describes a majority of the legion fanboys,I used to work with a guy who loved the legion and got a tattoo of the abbreviation for the ancient Roman government on his chest so I have first hand experience in this lol.
tradcaths
Thats just pol
Another variant of the deus vult idiots
It's all fun and games till the courier you've been sexist to becomes the hero of the Legion and now is your boss
She might even be Caesar's chosen successor - he does mint a coin in her honour if you go down the Legion route...
@@doubledouble4g379 Sounds like something I would write to be honest
"The flickering fire flies small coals in heat as the Heiress walks up the Grand Altar by a greying Caesar. It would've pandemonium and noise if she wasn't recognized for her deeds during the battle of Hoover of Dam, her sole achievement of racking a thousands corpses along the highway 95, from New Vegas to Searchlight the corpses lined up as her achievements were brutal and her instrumental mind sabotaged major routes and Technology more than a fingers can count."
@@buwanbuwaya6927 I can't remember who says it, but they say 'The Legion changes as it marches west' and absorbs more tribes. I'm sure considering his age and the tumour , Caesar is looking for a potential successor to keep the Legion together. The Courier would fit that bill considering they manage to unite or conquer the factions in the Mojave pretty-much single-handedly. We'll never know, of course, since Obsidian only had six days to finish the game :/
Caesar wants the legion to change though. He wants to absorb ncr and its people under a new idiology. He had to use brute force to form the legion but he wants way more than just an army.
I feel like the first thing she'd do is walk to Otho and drag him into the arena. And then just...brutalize him.
I love seeing them talk down to you like you couldn’t kill any 10 of them at once without breaking a sweat.
"a few legionnaires were talking about TRYING YOU OUT"
Guess the Legion is gonna have a few troops going AWOL then...
because they'll NEVER find the bodies... maybe a few eyeballs and some visceral gore... but I won't leave enough to identify ^_^
"What a terrible accident. These legionaries fell and beat themselves to death. Terrible shame."
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@@someman66 It's really sad that they tripped and fell to the ground with such force that their flesh and bones were ground to a pulp, limbs severed and thrown in all directions. Real freak incident.
I like that the game wasn't afraid to make direct references to rape. Makes worlds feels so much more authentic and lived in when they're not Disneyfied and have real life shit happening in them.
My first girlfriend ever got into New Vegas and was drawn to the Legion because of Vulpes' hat. Meanwhile, I was just thinking "uuuuuuuuh...."
I always kill Vulpes, and then I and equip Cass with his hat. It looks great on her.
Vulpes *does* have a very cool hat.
@@VulpesVvardenfell
I only play on very hard + hardcore, and also make it a point to disable all the Courier stashes.
So I wouldn't have a snowball chance in heck killing the Legion at Nelson... 🤣
the furry hat does not take priority over the Legion's.... codes, to me.
@@VulpesVvardenfell"You've been a good companion, have this fursuit I looted off a dead guy."
Last I remember, you need a weapon between your legs to carry one for Caesar. 😷
Is that why you're no longer legion? 💁🏻♀
👁👄👁 The absolute barbarity in Lonesome Road
Fhehshsjakakskdkk I LITERALLY CANT, I-
@@monkeymoment6478 😕
@@monkeymoment6478 should we call an ambulance?
@@monkeymoment6478 get an ambulance! He is having a stroke.
@@brok56 he ain’t got nothing to… oh wrong stroke
Legion Female Courier: Well, see, I'm not like other girls.
“My name is Aunt Ruckus. No relation”
1:40 references Judas receiving 30 pieces of silver from the Romans in exchange to giving up Jesus to them. Considered the biggest traitor in the Christian faith. Just a fun fact if you weren't aware of it
Which is pretty fucked because he directly caused the salvation of mankind according to the doctrine. Rightly he should be celebrated.
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Nope, doesn’t make him any less of a criminal or a traitor. An evil act isn’t any less evil just because it had indirectly good results, and you’d know that if you had any moral sense yourself.
@@georgerockwell149 well he does mention that it's fucked up that it happened this way. Calling him completely amoral is a little much
@Kyle Castloo One of the biggest traitors in mythology
@Kyle Castloo still waiting for someone to prove it 🤷♂️
That reply to Ulysses. He got burned more than The Burned man.
Nothing like girlbossing your way through the Mojave wasteland
When the Legion’s makeshift football armor can’t stop bullets:
:0
say that to lanius
@@homunkulus819 anti material rifle be like
@@theblazingcrusader6322 I can kill lanius withy fists
@@homunkulus819 Lanius is a cake walk. Deathclaws on the other hand.
@@enclaveboogalo3775 I can kill death claws with my fucking fists
Caesar: "What so embarrassing about Basedus Redpillus?"
Pillus... *chuckles in Finnish*
@@jarskil8862 Pillu :D
(intense chuckles)
Never mind that edgelords who talk about "taking the red pill" lifted slang from a sci-fi movie made by two trans women. The red pill in the Matrix movies is a stand-in for medical-grade estrogen. That red pill? Premarin, which comes in a literal red pill. Premarin is the estrogen that was most commonly prescribed to trans women and transfeminine nonbinary people in the '90s.
@@DarDarBinks1986
I'm one of those "edgelords" and I'm a Trans Woman and I already knew that.
Glory to Caesar.
The famous pro gamer moment 2:40
Reddit moment
@@sonk944 eh, Reddit is very soy and liberal and full of simps, its more like 4chan
Trve
R/niceguys or r/neckbeards?
Call of duty moment
Caesar found Andrew Tate in history books and made that his entire personality.
@Gta5FansRuinedGta ironic considering that your whole group acts like the one you're hating. So dont talk shit without knowing you are one
Explains the haircut.
Doesn't make sense considering Caesar's Legion isn't "Muhammed's Mujahideen" and it's not entirely populated with mixed race gay porn stars
@@vn_rett emm, the Legion is pretty homoerotic, buddy.
@@vn_rettI don't know about that last part...
The only good thing about the legion was turning their coins into ammo for the shotgun
Damn, absolutely destroyed Ulysses by literally calling him dickless.
The way how the female courier destroyed ulysses is just too much for me hahahaha!
You know- I didn't know it at the time cause I was doing an NCR route over a Legion route (and only played through once of FO:NV) but playing as a female courier...and ultimately going to fight Caesar is now more hilarious... because of all companions I had brought Veronica who punched his head off before I could get the last hit in.
Now I think it was rightfully done on her part
Noice
Honestly a female legionary courier would probabaly result in women gaining new rights within the legion as by minting a coin with the couriers image Caesar is effectively putting them on the same level of himself and the other mythical heroes and founders of the legion, and by making a woman one of the legions founding myths who knows maybe it might bring about change especially considering what Ulysses says about the legion changing as it moves west.
it could possibly shift the perception of women to be a bit more positive in the legion maybe, but I doubt it would improve their situation in the way of rights. you gotta remember in the real world that there were hundreds of female Empresses, Queens, Baroness' and Ladys that directly influenced the governance of numerous nations, kingdoms and empires, without really making any substantial change so far as women's rights were concerned.
@@Groobis I would argue that, there is a possibility the game does not give us a full picture of what living under legionary rule looks like I am not saying the legion is a fair society when it comes to gender rights by any means, and they are certainly much less progressive compared to the ncr (which go so far with it i would say it would harm their society in their home territories hard in the long run. Why conscript female soldiers when the male ones are biologically more expendable and physically more fit for the job? But fallout was never a super realistic focused post apocalyptic universe so i will chalk it up to that ).
The only legion area you get to visit is a military encampment, where all of the women seem to be slaves or servants, that move with the armies and there doesnt seem to be any wifes or families of the soldiers in the camp so they are probably at home. This was a thing that also happened in the real life roman legions its why a century was called that despite only having 80 fighting men in it the other 20 were slaves, but a legionary encampment was not a real picture of how society in actual roman towns, villages and cities worked. So i would argue that the same might apply here, while the status of women under legion rule is very very probably not great and they are certainly not viewed as equal, it could very well be less dire than what´s depicted here, where at the very least they don´t have to be worried about being constantly sexually assaulted like the woman in the video said and can very possible live relatively normal lives.
But alas they did not show actual legion territories in the game. I heard they intended to at one point but it got cut due to time constraints. It would have been fascinating to see for better or for worse how the average person under ceasar´s rule lived. Though their customs were probably not completely uniform since the societies under caesar consist of many conquered tribes with their own customs adding to it probably as well .
@@svfin while its true that we only really get to see military installations from the Legion in NV. I dont think using actual Roman society to base what Legion society would be like is very reliable, as the Legion really only resembles Rome superficially. Remember, the faction isn't called "Ceaser's Empire" or "Ceaser's Rome," it's Ceaser's LEGION. by Ceaser's own admission, there really isn't much else to the Legion other than the military. given how Ceaser and especially Lanius talk about the way they conquer territories, its pretty clear that the Legion assimilates people and territories as a means of "Extracting resources" more so than Expanding their area of Governance/influence. and to a faction that is more or less centered entire around it's military, Slaves are far more valuable than free citizens.
Part of Ceaser's (very flimsy) justification for why he wants to take Vegas, and destroy the NCR, is that he believes that by conquering and absorbing NCR territory, His Legion will transform from a wandering army, to an actual functioning society made up of the best parts of both the NCR and the Legion. however, just Because that's his goal for the future, doesn't mean his society is run like that in the 'present'
@@Groobis Yeah true caesar's society is not meant to be completely 1:1 modeled after roman society, what i meant with that roman legion example was to give you a real life example of how life in a military encampment would look a lot different from a life in roman villages, towns etc.
But to your point about caesar's legion's conquered territories. The lore states, that caesar's legion is not exclusively a conquering, enslaving and directly subjugating force it does let a lot of settlements in it's territory mostly live their own lives, relatively untouched with a degree of autonomy as long as their pay their tributes and submit to overall legion authority a bunch of whom are way more modern than the tribal based legionary culture. And Caesar does also severely punish legion rulers who mismanage or exploit the people they are supposed to be watching over, knowing that if the people under his command don't actually h. So in legion territory a lot of settlements live relatively autonomously, they are protected from raiders and the roads are also kept safe so they can trade very safely. So caesar's ruling is also a bit different than one might assume from a glance at least in a fair amount of the settlements under it's control and from what it appears legionary rule is not unpopular in areas under it's control so one might say he already has a functioning society to some extent, though definitely not the most stable considering caesar dying would probably destabilize the whole thing and even if there is not a civil war the successor would probably not be as intelligent as caesar was and would probably mishandle the system of governing caesar set in place only focusing on conquest and military matters.
It is similiar to how rome managed it's territories. People often assume, that Rome just painted the map red, conquered, enslaved and romanized everyone they came across, but a fair bit of the time they left the territories they ruled with a fair bit of autonomy often ruled by local rulers but still subordinate to the provincial roman governor, but the fact stands that a lot of the people were mostly left to manage their own matters locally.
But yeah caesar's legion is definitely not 1:1 remake of rome especially since his army and thus the culture of the army seems to be mostly tribal based and thus are pretty much a different people from the other more modern settlements under legionary rule, which would probably cause a lot of conflict, if caesar didn't balance the equation, but it is a problem that will probably surface once caesar dies.
@@svfin honestly the Legion resembles less like the Roman Empire and more like the nomadic Mongol Empire who would subjugate cities who surrendered and burn down and enslave the population of the cities that don’t
Hearing Ulysses chuckle is incredibly cathartic for me. He's so angsty about the Divide and the war in the Mojave that hearing him dip into a moment of levity feels soothing, even if for a moment.
God, hes way too hot for my own good
Jeez, write a fanfic and be done with it already🤨
Everything he says sounds like an edgy sonic fanfic writer, get an actual 12 year old to read it and it doesn't sound "soothing" or "hot"
@@unoriginalperson72 "I find this attractive"
"YEAH WELL IF IT WAS A KID YOU WOULDN'T!!!1!!1!"
like yeah... Most people wouldn't. Kinda a shit point
U good homie?
@@raditzhoneyham OK
i love how Otho is like "women are beneath notice and unworthy to fight in the arena", but also the strongest figther in his arena is a female ranger who has defeated every legionary thats challenged her
thats just feminist/woke writing
@@ewadfe3705Of course, it's not that she's a Ranger, known for being some of the strongest the NCR has to offer...
@@MakusinMeringue and why is that ranger a woman?
@@ewadfe3705 Because the NCR has both males and females in its army?
@@ewadfe3705because its poetic that a woman is the one to be the strongest in a society where women have no rights
War... War never changes...
but a woman does, through the roads she walks...
Thank you Ulysses... *SALUTE*
I think you mean “Gender non-binary homoflexible latinx quasi-sexual demi-person”. What are you? A TERF?
Killing Caesar in his surgery as a female is what i call as "ironic poetry"
Kinda want to write that as a poem, though I am not sure it would be good given my poor writing skills
Make it into a Shakespearean sonnet
Fun fact: Serial killering from orderlies, nurses and doctors are in fact 55% women?
@@renegade7548 yes, women are capable of being serial killers, is that shocking? Plenty of men and women who have ill intentions end up as police officers, nurses doctors etc. Serial killing is not exclusive to one gender.
@@renegade7548 Maybe because that industry is mostly women? Wow what a shock, who would've thought.
Majority of overall serial killers are men, and men are much more likely to commit murder than women.
Courier could win the entire war herself and the Legionaries would still sh*t talk her.
Gaming faction
While the NCR are the current US military recruitment ad
The problem with the Legion is most of its fanbase don't even care a understanding their Hegelian and Social Darwinist philosophy, they just side with legion because they despise women.
Cringe.
@@Ituasmi Shame that there can't be something in the middle (the NCR isn't extreme at all though, it works for the joke but they just let women be available to serve as soldiers or politicians like the men, not some woke actions and mentality bs).
@@andryuu_2000 nah i am not a guy who always goes the legion route because i say they are based and hate women i like how the legion tries to bring a great empire back from the dead and if you think about it the legion could become a republic like rome if they ever survive and i am not saying legion good hehe i also take the mr house route because he knows prewar stuff more than the NCR plus he is smart and immortal then we have yes man
@@dusk6159 Yeah the NCR looks and sounds fine the other problems is that they have a shit currency, taxes, and if you see the other members of the NCR they are doing Illegal stuff and also trying to bring back the same old world that dropped the N word and worst of all
*THEY ARE A DEMOCRACY*
I was not ready for that last one. Goddamn that was low.
Goddamn that was based*
@@monkeymoment6478 Touch Grass
@@fireball-yj8fl he was right in some aspects
@@duxect2862 like what? Creating a Luddite slave society that would only be stable with a strongman with certain philosophical knowledge that said society bans in charge?
@@fireball-yj8fl he did say that women are physically inferior which is true and also that they are mentally inferior, I think men I the legion would also have better war tactics than women, I don't agree with anything else the legion believes
2:12 favorite interaction in the game for just that he gets confused for a second
Ever notice everybody who does this is always a low status legionary? Vulpes, Lanius, Caesar Pheonix and Lucius all never bring it up, for example.
It was supposed to be revealed by Caesar that he doesn't really have a bureaucracy, so he just split the nation into sex roles so he had half the nation maintain the state the the other half expand it. He was fine with people taking a less fixed role in society once he conquers the NCR, but until then he needs his tribals to be split up like this.
But I guess the tribal superstition and low class understanding doesn't just go away. Caesar can tell a legionary what to do, but he can't explain why it's important. He can't sit down with legionaries and explain what utilitarianism is, so instead he goes "fuck it, as long as you understand the orders who cares if you understand the reasoning"
I think that's a really cool take on the antagonists rather than just being meanies who do bad things because their leader is evil.
I mean, they still do bad things to a lot of people, just because they don't follow Caesar's ideologies.
No matter how "noble" his goals might be, their methods are no better than the average raider, and if history has taught us something is that barbarism never lead us to anywhere good.
@@MAC-0
I would definitely say that idea is something that applies to basically all groups in the Mojave, especially the NCR and House. Not to excuse any Legion crimes, but just to say "he who is without sin"
@@MAC-0 they do bad things to their enemies, the ncr. When you argue that the legion is evil then so is the ncr and both evil factions are at war with each other and do some horrible shit to ppl like the ncr with the khans or the kings. Then you have the ability to talk to ppl that live under legions rule and theyre all happy because the roads are safe, they have no taxation and degenerate things like drugs and gambling are strictly forbidden. When you talk to ppl about the ncr you always hear they are the good guys but extremely incompetent and as mentioned sometimes straight up worse killers than the legion
I always thought they never really got the idea that Caesar seperates men and women for efficiency sake as you can't have the same people who bear future soldiers to also fight alongside them, not in a sort of prejudice manner.
They seem to just be conditioned to think "women = below men" when simply it's much more. I guess Caesar's initial idea gets lost when most of your army are a bunch of tribal men who've been forcefully assimilated and raised since childhood and still hold some childish values.
Cut content also reveals there would've been towns and such with civilians, men and women alike. So it's not like all women in the Legion would be slaves.
Even Cato Hostilius is just mildly surprised they would bring a woman in but then is just happy and helpful all the way. Realistically most spec ops soldiers today would have his same reaction
1:47 quite the reference to Judas
Thanks for the vid! Please tell us which mods you use for the textures.
since I always play a female character, I can never play the legion because roleplaying is a big deal to me and I can't see any of my characters join the only faction in the game who treats women like shit
Roleplaying is always confined to your imagination, you could start the game as a legion slave maybe?
@@PowerfulWizard even then, since your character is free at the start of the game, she would have no reason to side with the legion again. She's free to pick a faction who will treat her better, aka literally any other faction
OH what if you have a 1 Int build
@@PowerfulWizard not something I would play either. I just like pmaying characters in full possession of their brains and if I made an exception for a dumb playthrough, I still wouldn't feel ok to make her join the legion
Yeah there are ways to make a female courier in the legion somewhat make sense but not a single one suits me
You can Take over the Legion but the faction seems to BE a Bit too cartoonishly evil and Not much developed since they seem all to BE the Same . They really should have taken way more inspirations from History have factions within the Legion different Characters maybe the Legion civilians and in my opinion instead of a bunch Raiders in Roman Cosplay make them instead NCR Rebels which would make more Sense and BE better Storywise than a bunch of Raiders with No real Connection to the NCR, Just Imagine the Story Drama and maybe after Caesar dies you could Play a Triumvirate Game to Fight to BE Augustus or Augusta
can you post your visual mod list, please?
thanks
Woah, the Legion are all gamers
Nah gamers don't go outside.
LOL that line with Ulysses was funny af.
if they remaster fullout new vegas i want them to have this mod so it looks alot cleaner
*Urge to prove them oh so wrong increasing by the millisecond.*
Ulysses, of all people, chuckling though.
Anyone know what lighting mods they have going on here? The game looks great
super late reply here but it looks like they're running an enb, not sure which one though. they got them on the nexus if you're still interested over a year later lol
The Legion talk down to your female courier, meanwhile, as a player of a female courier myself, I can't count the number of legion bodies that I'd stepped over.
Lmao wow bro youre so edgy and badass
@@bruceadams2779 i dont think "edgy" is a compliment
@@naufalr.9521 sarcasm
@@bruceadams2779 it's a video game dude.
Don't say that to the legion fan boys.
This video is genuinely fucking hilarious
It really is
Ulysses: "last i heard you need a *weapon* between your legs to carry one for Caesar"
*bUT tHey KeEp ThE RoaDs SafE”
Yes, and I think at the end of the day that's more important. After all, I'm not a woman and you probably aren't either. Does matters?
@@CirnoFan04 bro, of course it matters, I have empathy.
@@daltongarrett3393Me too, but in a nuclear wasteland the rules of the game begin to change.
You are putting a moral reason before a practical benefit. That is why the NCR is in decline.
@@CirnoFan04 the NCR is in decline because of the corrosive influence of markets on democracy, but even in their decline they still afford their citizens a quality of life and level of freedom not seen since before the war. The legion in its prime is a Luddite fascist empire populated in majority by slaves, which brutalizes everyone under its dominion, and is held together entirely by one pseudo-intellectual LARPing hypocrite with a brain tumor that’s making him even more deranged and will end him any day now, resulting in the complete collapse of his empire.
@@CirnoFan04 the NCR is in decline because of the corrosive influence of markets on democracy, but even in their decline they still afford their citizens a quality of life and level of freedom not seen since before the war. The legion in its prime is a Luddite f@scist empire populated in majority by slaves, which brutalizes everyone under its dominion, and is held together entirely by one pseudo-intellectual LARPing hypocrite with a brain tumor that’s making him even more deranged and will end him any day now, resulting in the complete collapse of his empire.
Imagine talking to the Legion without blowing their heads off
Reddit rage
L take
Soyboy simp
Walk a few meters back and give em a 44mm grenade to the shins.
Imagine getting tax for helping NCR
"New Vegas has the best writing of all fallouts"
"Prove it"
"2:03"
Yeah. Definitely great writing... lol
Wait, you can talk to the Legion? I thought they were just there to grind xp
You can't just talk to them you can side with them. Even as a fem courier but don't expect any respect then.
I hope this is sarcasm
Same, first play through I thought they were the main foes of the game so I just started blasting. Ooooh boy was Ceaser ever pissed when he talked me. Didn’t kill him cause it was a house play through.
@@f1shyspace it is
@@Kalenz1234 I know you can, but why would you want to?
A woman walks into fort Reddit
Reddit is leftist
@@vn_rettLeftist or not, Reddit expresses a degenerate perspective of women. Being left doesn't make you a human rights fighting altruist lmao
@@vn_rett Still hates women
@@vn_rettdude, reddit is filled with debate perverts and gamers. Reddit is simply diet-4chan.
Exactly why you kill them every playthrough lol
That interaction with Ulysses was golden
What mods do you use!? Reshade or ENB?
I think he uses ENB because i have never seen a reshade like that
Ah good old Caesar, what a guy
To be fair, a Woman as powerful and skillful as the courier has nothing to fear from the fuckboys in the Legion
What are they gonna do? sneak up on you at night only to get turned into a pretzel by your super mutant Grandma?
Years of playing fnv and I have never heard Ulysses stutter
whats the eye mod your character is using?
No Call of Duty Weaon. No hideous body mods. Not bad.
So sad that the legionaries accidentally detonated a small nuclear warhead on themselves while tied to a tree, blindfolded. Guess they never got to try the courier out huh?
once I got the mark of caesar, I tried my hardest to bite my tongue and go see him maybe just to see if I could talk him down or reason with him then and there but as soon as I heard the words of the guy manning the boat (the last clip) I introduced him to the less diplomatic end of my riot shotgun.
Looks so clean
i always try to side with caesar but end up genociding his camp ruthlessly
It's just too hard to resist
really he shouldn't have put like 4 of his elites and himself in such perfect mini nuke range
Literally talking to the closest thing to a god the Mojave has
I would like to know which mods you use.
Why do the Legion act like those boys who play CoD and tell women they encounter to make them a sandwich?
Nah there is a difference
I mean
At least Legion soldiers are actually saying it face to face
@@officialeuladegenerate4035 HAH, savage
Because Caesar built their army based around ancient Rome.
@@wyntertheicewyvern6226 I guess I never bothered to learn about Romans because they took so much of their beliefs, lifestyle and tradition from the Greeks.
So par for the course that Caeser's Legion borrowed their culture from a culture that is borrowed from another culture.
@@tobyewolfe9998 yep. Conveniently, Caesar seems to forget what happened to the Caesar from history XD
Justpearlythings be like
“Only takes one to take over the Mojave.”
love legion, all the easy EXP they give as they die :)
i would like to think that a female courier in the legion would end up having an effect on the role of women in the legion
You'd LIKE to think that. But the Mojave ain't no fairy tale...
It will inevitably make women feel less useless and men think twice before using them as mere objects.
Still the structure would be the classic men fight and build, women take care of children.
Primitive but functional, as long it's respectful it's not THAT bad.
The effect wouldn't last long. I doubt the courier could hold together the Legion after Caesar dies, but when the tribes break into factions again, it would likely have a effect on one of them and cause it to either predominantly female or even for both genders. It would change nothing in the Legion with the time it has left.
Ulysses seems to agree.
I don't think the Legion lives long enough for that change even if they win.
Now I remember why I wiped them all out lolol
0:21 Lots of guys will say stuff like this, and wonder why they can't find a girlfriend.
Ulysses's chuckle is the best
Another reason to completely massacre every single member of the Legion
Ok liberal
@@Bratislav803 NCR gang mothafuckaaaa
Cringe!
@@Bratislav803 ah yes, men and women being equal = liberal, least brain rotted red piller
careful the incels will get upse- nvm 🤣
Love playing as a female courier then decimating the Legion bare handed.
Cato Hostilius sounds like a Monty Python name.
I love that you get to insult Ulysses’s “weapon”
They pronounce "Caesar" correct 🤯
Female courier gonna be like:
“Cesar you’ll make me an exception in your system”
C: “Why?”
Courier: “Outside of helping you shit tone of times I haven’t used those possibilities to kill you. Meaning that I’m loyal enough and capable enough”
Cesar: “That’s fair but…”
Courier: “I’m also tomboy”
Cesar: “Vulpex , bring me an fucking paper , NOW”
The fact the Legion distributes a golden Legion coin with the female Legion Courier's face on it.
Should prove to ALL of the Legion, that women are more than slaves.
Even with Legate Lanius in charge that happens!
So it very much is the beginning of more equal rights between men and women in the Legion.
@@PerfectAlibi1 yup
I always knew Caesar was a tomboy supremacist
@@PerfectAlibi1 There was cut concept showing Legion towns and such with civilians, both men and women. So it's not like all women are slaves, this is just what we ended up with
@@faintcry
If they had more time, it would've been added. ^^
Oh that Ulysses line was gold, always played male when I'm legion so I've never heard that line before
I remember the first time experiencing this when I played a female character for the first time in New Vegas. Assumed it wouldn’t make a difference, much like every other RPG. Was caught off guard when i was denied from entering the arena in Caesars camp for my characters gender as well as the warning Siri gave me about the two legionaries. Gave something heavy to think about both in game and in the real world…
Fuck that’s heavy for you?
Ulysses calling you Judas wasn’t something I expected
Walking into the legion as a veritable God of War, 100 melee and unarmed, 10 Str, and everyone acts like you couldn’t push their shit in harder than the Legate just because you’ve an extra X chromosome.
A woman with 100 melee... yeah okay
@@snaker9er affirmative, 100 guns too.
@@snaker9er Do you think any man alive could gib a deathclaw with a sledgehammer? Be real. You don't get to cherry-pick with realism. You either want a video game that's fun or one that's so realistic it isn't fun. The Courier, simply, is not a realistic person. It is fantasy -- you do realize that, right?
@@gunslinginleftist You didn't think I was making a serious point, right?
@@snaker9er Okay, but it was important to point out. This game is not realistic, and does not depict men or women at their realistic potential.
Am I right or am I wrong? Answer me that.
Ulysses: "Last I heard, you needed a weapon between your legs to carry one for Caesar"
Female Courier: "Who says I don't have one?" 👀
"female" courier
The Courier is canonically a trans woman. All the transphobes can die mad about it.
@@DarDarBinks1986 Doubt
if the internet is any indication, there's a good few transgender women who would inexplicably join the legion
@@ashencometmom5291 I'm a trans woman and I side with Yes Man. Neither Kimball nor Caesar nor House have the best interests of the Mojave in mind. My genius Courier, on the other hand, does.
The insult to Ulysses about not having a weapon between his legs 😂
Well thought out game
Bro, legion ceaser are gamers?!!
True, and it's funny coming from the guy who has the profile picture of a character that says "Better a pig than a fascist" haha
@@dostwood5103
Soy
@@dostwood5103 soy
@@dostwood5103 Soy
@@dostwood5103 s0y
looks like a bear had his victory after all lmfao
0:22 what symbiote peter should have said in that one scene
It's interesting to me, that if you win the day at Hoover Dam as a female Legion courier, you are still granted the honor of being minted on a new Legion coin. This has a lot of implications, biggest of which being that a female champion has been immortalized for the first time in the Legion's history. Which would have long lasting and law-changing effects on the Legion as a whole, especially with women's rights.
No chance would Bethesda have the stones to do this nowadays. I rarely do a Legion playthrough but it was an interesting concept for a faction.
The difference between settings in F:NV and FO4 makes them feel like completely different games. NV is a lot darker
They never did. Bethesda was just New Vegas' publisher; but Obsidian made the game.
@@WikkeSchrandt I know that. Everyone does. They still wouldn't sign off on this today though in 2022. No chance. Whether they made it themselves or contracted it to another studio. Fallout 4 hardly had anything dark just shooting enemies endlessly.
@@Mojo-IRE What? Fallout 4 had plenty of dark quests like the child vault and Caits backstory.
@@breadlover302 Not that dark compared to Fallout 3 or NV at all.
Cait lol? Lad I'm Irish. Nothing that fuckin dumb stereotype with her horrendous fake accent was dark or interesting to someone like me.
Maiden-Less.
The Legion when women: What is that? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!
Realistically the only kind of woman to wanna join the legion is a crazy one who wants to prove herself 😅
Now I remember why I don't side with them