Locking miter on the table saw
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I found this "how to" in the Woodsmith magazine and thought I would share with you guys how I made out with trying this mitre joint. I found it to be pretty tricky and probably not worth the effort unless it was going to be visible from the top with contrasting woods. I still found the process to be fun so go ahead and give it a try! - Навчання та стиль
Nice video and great camera work to show the joint as it progressed. I agree as to the practicality of this joint. I have used it as you made it in plywood and the final product is very fragile until it is totally glued up.
I read quite a few comments on how impractical this joint is but I think it is awesome. The most practical joint 90% of the time would be to glue and screw it, but where's the fun in that. Good job.
That is a beautiful joint. Nicely done.
That's a really cool joint! Nice job.
This is a really cool box joint. Very interesting solution!
Love the skill and creativity.
Nice joint and absolutely killer beat. Love it
Can't believe no one else commented on the music!!
Very cool joint and execution was spot-on. I use this joint for millwork installation where I'm wrapping columns or beams. Easier to execute then a long miter and get it perfect, less risk of gapping overtime, and much cleaner than a butt joint.
this is the BEST...... i will follow this on my next project this fall for my mitered corners.
That's pretty cool! Never seen that on the table saw!
Thanks!
Just found your site, loved the video -
You;ve earned a subscriber.
I could never get the router bit to work. This is the strongest joint...Nice job!
I really like the song for this video, awesome edit!!
Nicely done.
Very nice work.......and a well documented video!
Cool locking joint! Nice experiment.
Your vid' made cutting the lock miter easier to understand, thanks. I plan to use it for small boxes and honey bee hive and honey boxes in lieu of time consuming box joints. Allan
Nice work!
Excellent step through an interesting joint. I appreciate your comments about the practicality too.
Thanks!
That's a great miter joint!
There is a router bit available that cuts both pieces.
I was just gonna say buy the bloody router bit, this is a lot of messing about lol
He probably knows, but you have to give it to him for all the figuring he needed to do, and just think, if there was no bit created for that, he'd be one step ahead of the rest of us.
Nothing wrong with practicing skills. Thanks for sharing this.
Reading a lot of these comments and it's amazing how many negative comments. Where's the adventure, the journey, the learning, the practice...woodworking is supposed to be FUN guys.
Way to go Ryan, I'm lovin' it.
Very nice piece of cutting, looks good but of course only worth it if visible, otherwise much quicker with miter lock bit. Thanks for the share
Beautiful joint my friend. Well executed and like you said, it's great accuracy practice on the table saw. Exercises like this, however "trivial" in the eyes of some because the joint isn't being used for anything, is great to hone in your cutting skills and learn from this piece. Well done brother!
+cpepper5702 thanks!
Good demonstration
Neat technique, thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
Looks really well executed. Nice work. The music was not my favorite, but was captivating.
Great video! This may be difficult but must result in a very strong joint.
What easier/simpler methods for a strong mitter joint you suggest?
Great "how to" video. As you say, its technically a great jointing exercise, but probably not to practical in real terms. Thanks for sharing 😊
very cool. like the video editing and format. made it easy to follow and reference if I decide to try this. 👊
+KissMyAxe thanks:)
Very nice, good job!
Thanks!
Nice work
Looks frustrating as hell!!
But I still want to try it!!
Looks like you celebrated with a few Sam's!! Great job. Thanks for the vid!
Excellent video! Subscribed.
BTW, what is, in your opinion, the best way to strengthen a miter joint, in a way that it is invisible (that is, not using visible keys and splines)?
Nice video. I have one question? Would you leave a gap on your tenons for glue up or not?
nice video and its a nice looking joint!
Thanks!
Have never seen this kind of joinery! Nice job!
Thanks!
Excellent!
You can buy a $20 router bit that makes this exact joint. It quick accurate and simple to do repeatedly. But I still in joyed this video berry cool.
i have that bit , only prob it doesn't have a bearing ,maybe it's meant to be used with a bushing
craig paterson I have a set for 3 different sizes. Works great, only problem to being consistent is to use a power feeder. It's very difficult without one.
Generally I would use this in a router table with a fence.
POLOLOUS3 so where can we get that set from?
Cool joint. Seems like a lot of work to replicate four times. I do boxes of various types and they would look nice. I am still partial to splines. Depending on the box type I change it up. I may try this joint this weekend! Thanks
Thanks a lot for the video it would look really cool with two different colors
Making set up blocks for the future would speed future set up
very cool locking joint looks great
Thanks!
I tried a locking miter joint on a router table. A little scary on my table. I think I will give this a try. Looks great.
Niiiice video. The style change is great. Oh, and I learned something about joinery.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Nice job Ryan. I am waiting for Andrew Klein's table saw blade to come out to do this in one cut! He is working out a deal with a manufacturer as we speak.
Thanks, Man that blade Idea is genius! I really hope the idea pays off for him.
Ryan
The Miter Fold Dado Set, available at Rockler www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set
Awesome joinery! Even if setup is a pain in the ass.
Nice!💜
cool video ,thanks
I have a locking miter bit for my router, which can be a pain to set up. Saw your title and thought, wow! another way. Not trolling you, but you just made me appreciate setting up the router. It is a neat looking joint, especially with the plywood you used, but like you said. A lot of work. Keep up the great videos. Really like your style and content. Very informative.
Thanks! I really appreciate that.
Nice work Thanks for the honest feedback.
Thanks!
Very interesting joint indeed! Great work as always :) I guess we need a FT teeth blade to obtain clean cuts.
For sure, I had a hard time with tear out the back even when using a backer board. Thanks for watching
Ryan
Awesome!!
I've used the router bit to accomplish the joint for some motorcycle saddle bags. They were not visible on the outside, but I liked the idea of a better joint for supporting rattling around on a bike.
+Make Crazydays He did say it took him 3 tries before he got it right.
I've got a router bit that creates (very nearly) the same locking joint. It takes a fair bit of setup and I highly recommend the magnetic setup guide, but once it's set, you just run all your boards through it in a single pass.
Great joint with lots of surface area which makes it super strong joint. It would nice to transfer the cut profile of each board into a router bit.
What joint would you recommend if you are going for a strong miter and not concerned about the aesthetics?
Always great video's, really could do WITHOUT the music
I think the repetitive music made it barrable.
Excellent, thanks
I like the lock miter joint for drawers, looks good and strong. I agree that it is good practice to be accurate on the table saw. Making the joint on the table saw for one or two drawers is ok, but not if you have a kitchen to do. The shaper or router bits are worth every penny if you have a bunch of drawers. Good video on making the joint, I enjoyed. Thanks for sharing, Randy
I agree, thanks for watching
Ryan
Shop built lol
Ryan, what dado stack are you using for that Ridgid table saw?
I have to agree with the everyone's comments below. Good job on getting a very accurate locking miter.
Thanks Richard!
Good fun.
nice!
Impressive results. As everyone says .... Too much for quantity, but fun to watch! Thanks for sharing!
What was you goal when you recorded this video?
I like it. Would be nice to do that if it could be seen from the top and that the wood was some kind of hardwood
Looks great and very sturdy - but as you say it's overly complicated and a lot of work for one joint. But it's always great to try a new joint (that's what she said).
hey don't bogart! that joint :)
I tried to think of an application where this would be used.All I could come up with is drawers,since it's a locking joint.
Seldom have I made just one drawer, so to make several it would be tedious unless I had three or four table saws.
Was the shot of the joint at the END a different joint to the one we watched you cut, as the one we watched you cut had a gap on the piece you cut last? ( noticeable at 5:00 ).
SORRY JUST BEING PICKY, a very nice joint none the less, keep the videos coming.
We use locking miters alot in Wall panels/columns that need to be sent out knock-down
Tim Johnson Good use for that joint but I bet you don't do them on a tablesaw - unless you have a cpl dedicated to the joinery.
yes it difficult but its very beautiful and very clean
interesting. break it. how does it compare to normal mitre joint?
Good idea, I will.
Good demonstration of your skill level. I'll stick with my lock miter router bits though :-).
Good idea;)
Rats! My next video on butt joints just went into the garbage. Well done! Douglas
Lol, thanks for watching!
That is cool, but im with you. Putting in a spline would be a lot easier.
sexy joint. i felt it move
Very nicely done. I could see how one might be inclined to use it more often if you had a pair of shaper bits (or perhaps router bits) which could cut it in one pass. Even so, if the two edges are not identical--and they appear to be non-identical--then these shaper bits would only come in mating pairs.
I agree, thanks for watching!
+Tom Nally They do make router bits for this joint. Typically you run one piece flat on its face and the mating piece standing against the fence. Definitely makes the whole process more foolproof. But those router bits aren't free. It was cool to see a table saw method.
Your saw is left tilt right?
good
Very well done. I'll stick to my router, but your technique could be particularly useful if you need to use extra thick stock.
Nice high school exercise..but just break down and get a miter lock router bit.
What song?
Great results but so much work.
Thanks, it really was to much work for what it is.
Nice joint! Can the music.
They should make a router bit for this joint.
They do.
I think they make a router bit set to do that.
Time to invest in a lock miter bit 🙄
Вероятно крепкое соединение, но уж очень заморочено.
Will be strong though.
It is a nice joint, but a lot of effort
Good practice and nice work but without multiple dedicated machines set up you could never scale it to any kind of usable production. And if it's not perfect it's useless for glue-up. I see a lot of sloppy interlocking joints - a butt joint would be stronger. Def go w the router set - perfect cuts in 10 seconds.
very cool looking but a lot of work if you can't see it
Watch all the way to the end
Damn.. Now all my boards are an inch short..
My brain hurts!
Okay. He obviously knows about the router bit here folks. However. there are people who don't have a router. And really you need a table, and a fence. So even if you build table and fence yourself. All said and done. It would cost $80 to $100 on the low side getting used stuff plus there's that time you were gonna save. Or go all new. Way more then $100.
With this if you have the saw. It's just a few bucks for the dado. And you're good. If you only need a few joints, or you're just that poor.
Otherwise I agree. Router is way better. But this will have a use for someone. At the very least. It's an interesting technique to learn. And you can do many sizes without buying many bits. Depending on the size of your saw of course. Live a little. :)
And for that hour of work per joint you saved yourself $20 on a router bit that would have done that in one pass per board.
Takes you an hour to make this joint?
Stick to the router bro.
and this is why I bought a router bit that cuts this on first pass
Thanks for a great tutorial, but damn that background music all to hell and gone.
You're right, pretty but impractical.