Benedict Arnold: America’s Greatest Traitor

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  • @emmikay7387
    @emmikay7387 4 роки тому +1056

    One thing that I've heard said: 'If Benedict Arnold had died of the injuries he sustained in the Battle of Saratoga, he would one the most celebrated, and fondly remembered military leaders in American History.'

    • @420glass
      @420glass 3 роки тому +8

      if. lol

    • @cocotaveras8975
      @cocotaveras8975 3 роки тому +26

      @Commie Gobbledygook Napoleon is an excellent example of that.

    • @bj-vd7ve
      @bj-vd7ve 3 роки тому +81

      @Commie Gobbledygook Or you live like George Washington (same time around Arnold) and you live a hero until old age and die a hero too. Thank you Washington for refusing the position of being King of America, something surely Benedict Arnold would not have(and lets be real, not many people would refuse to be a King)

    • @Sorcerers_Apprentice
      @Sorcerers_Apprentice 3 роки тому +9

      @@bj-vd7ve It's knowing to quit when you're at the top of your game, before you have a chance to come down.

    • @alanluscombe8a553
      @alanluscombe8a553 2 роки тому +3

      @@bj-vd7ve and now our country hates Washington and everyone else alive at the time of slavery it seems.

  • @brentgranger7856
    @brentgranger7856 4 роки тому +2351

    When LeBron James left the Cleveland Cavaliers to join the Miami Heat, a store in Cleveland placed his Cleveland jerseys on sale for $17.41. Why? 1741 is the year Benedict Arnold was born.

    • @Renwoxing13
      @Renwoxing13 4 роки тому +137

      That's a pretty sly dig at him as a traitor! I ♡LOVE♡ it!

    • @thedungeondelver
      @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +164

      Given James' kowtowing to the Chinese they should do that again.

    • @indyxpbullion2422
      @indyxpbullion2422 4 роки тому +90

      Let’s be honest, Cleveland lost Lebron because of Cleveland 😂

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 4 роки тому +10

      2016 Cavs win the finals. LeBron is MVP. That's why.

    • @thecliffdweller1212
      @thecliffdweller1212 4 роки тому

      @@thedungeondelver Double dunk!

  • @danielschein6845
    @danielschein6845 4 роки тому +266

    The video understates how severe the leg wound was or how heroically he was acting when he received it. It was a near miracle it wasn't amputated.
    There is a legend that after his betrayal Benedict Arnold asked one of his British peers what he thought the Americans would do if they ever got their hands on him. The British officer responded something along the lines of, "They will chop off your leg and bury it with full military honors and pageantry. Then they will draw and quarter the rest of you and feed it to the dogs."
    Judging by the leg monument he wasn't far off.

  • @TwilightxKnight13
    @TwilightxKnight13 4 роки тому +349

    When you have a problem with virtually every officer you deal with, it’s not a stretch to say YOU are the source of the conflict.

    • @cybersketcher1130
      @cybersketcher1130 2 роки тому +2

      You have a point.

    • @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA
      @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA 2 роки тому +12

      True, but not really knowing how what would become the united states would operate in the future depending on who won, the officers of both British and continental armies were always vying for more sway and power….. Arnold’s was not the best relationships with his fellow officers but by far not the worst.

    • @LesHaskell
      @LesHaskell 2 роки тому +8

      After the war, before he permanently moved to England, he tried to start a new life in Saint John, New Brunswick. He couldn't get along with anybody. He had lawsuits and they burned him in effigy before he left for England. I think he was a clinical narcissist.

  • @NDTexan
    @NDTexan 4 роки тому +95

    He's such a fascinating story and one of the most famous tragedy stories of the Revolutionary War. The Continentals would not have won the war without Arnold. There was no better field commander for the Continentals. Absolute facts. Also the reason his betrayal is so famous and his name a synonym for traitor. He fell from such a great height because of his own greed for recognition.
    Fun fact. He's also generally considered to have been the commander of the first real naval battle in US history, Valcour Island. A loss but a successful delaying action on Lake Champlain

    • @LesHaskell
      @LesHaskell 2 роки тому +1

      There are five towns that claim to be the birthplace of the American Navy.

    • @SergyMilitaryRankings
      @SergyMilitaryRankings Рік тому

      It's funny because technically all the founding fathers were traitors

  • @matthewsay3756
    @matthewsay3756 4 роки тому +1345

    Our good friend Arnold is our good friend no more
    - oversimplified

  • @marquisdelafayette1929
    @marquisdelafayette1929 4 роки тому +874

    Simon,
    You should do me instead of the traitor Arnold! I have had a more colorful life and been in multiple revolutions in France and the USA.
    Arnold was jealous of the relationship I had with Washington and became like a son he never had and he was like the father I never had.

    • @agroteraaaa
      @agroteraaaa 4 роки тому +4

      ach so...

    • @Udontkno7
      @Udontkno7 4 роки тому +9

      Tea

    • @johngingras
      @johngingras 4 роки тому +30

      Bravo, good sir, bravo. Perhaps they could do Tadeusz Kościuszko after you.

    • @cloneinvictus9206
      @cloneinvictus9206 4 роки тому +3

      And who the hell are you?

    • @OllieRamone
      @OllieRamone 4 роки тому +9

      Marquis de Lafayette Mike Duncan of the History of Rome and Revolutions podcasts is writing a book about Lafayette.

  • @racheltitus
    @racheltitus 4 роки тому +644

    Fun fact: he lived for a while in my hometown of Saint John NB (Canada) where he made a bunch of sketchy business deals and then fled 👍

    • @rons1470
      @rons1470 4 роки тому +32

      Rachel Titus Andre was captured not far from my town and hung a town over. I occasionally visit the spot and eat dinner in an old tavern where he was held before being hung.

    • @racheltitus
      @racheltitus 4 роки тому +9

      Ron S Cool!!! The place he used to live here has a big plaque on it, and it’s now a clothing store I sometimes shop at haha

    • @Gamergeek56
      @Gamergeek56 4 роки тому +9

      I never knew that! I lived in the village of gagetown while my father was working at cfb gagetown! Interesting fact . Am nova Scotia and love the history around here am actually from cape breton and currently living there my grandmother worked at a museum for years about saint Paul island and has had talked to someone who's grandfather was living there during ww2 and had actually said that he had nazis come to his door. My grandmother said he didn't answer the door but instead grabbed his double barrel and kept it aimed at the door in case they tried to get I. Rumour was that it was a Uboat that surfaced by the island which is actually believable considering people use to believe that there were u boats stationed in Halifax harbour

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 4 роки тому +1

      @Adam O that sounds wierd.

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 4 роки тому +2

      @Adam O it's still a wierd thing to invent. What other Lovecraftian style nightmares lurk in that noggin of yours?

  • @CEOdawg
    @CEOdawg 4 роки тому +33

    As a kid, I got SO MUCH flax for sharing this guy's last name. Thanks for clearing up some more of his history for me - as you didn't really hear about the things Benedict Arnold did outside of his "co-leadership" with Ethan Allen and his betrayal in history class back in the day.

  • @jeffsanders1609
    @jeffsanders1609 3 роки тому +42

    Major John Andre actually gave himself up in a hilarious scene where, dressed in civilian cloths, he came along three American militias men that he thought were Tories loyal to the Crown as one was wearing a Hessian soldiers overcoat.
    Andre explained “Gentlemen I hope you belong to our side.” The miltiamen replied “what side?” André replied “Why the British side of course!” Then he told them he was a British officer on an urgent mission and could not be detained. To his surprise they detained him and told him they were Continentals. Andre then tried to switch his story and told them he was really an American officer and showed them a fake passport Arnold had given him but they didn’t buy it.

  • @chrisca
    @chrisca 4 роки тому +626

    This enraged his father, who punished him severely

    • @thewizardhawk
      @thewizardhawk 4 роки тому +28

      My man.

    • @Thetrashsquad
      @Thetrashsquad 4 роки тому +9

      cresta2000ESP oversimplified😤

    • @ilkkarautio2449
      @ilkkarautio2449 4 роки тому +7

      Fathers need to be enraged to dish out brutal violence? 🤔😱

    • @EpicGhostShadow
      @EpicGhostShadow 4 роки тому +6

      OVERSIMPLIFIED

    • @elic1356
      @elic1356 4 роки тому +8

      Ah, I'm glad to see some Oversimplified fans here.

  • @rafisanders
    @rafisanders 4 роки тому +80

    That was too many ouchies for our old friend Benedict Arnold

    • @minguyen-rl7sn
      @minguyen-rl7sn 4 роки тому +8

      Right? They smacked him once then asked him you wanna betray me yet? He says no. They stabbed him. You gonna betray me yet? Nah. They humiliated him. How about now? Nope. *stab* that bad enough? Ok you win, I guess ill just join the british.

    • @fornax5798
      @fornax5798 3 роки тому

      @@minguyen-rl7sn It was a reference to Oversimplified but that's true.

    • @moon_wei
      @moon_wei 3 роки тому +3

      And our good old friend Benedict Arnold was our good old friend no more

  • @ethanramos4441
    @ethanramos4441 4 роки тому +228

    “Let me die in this old uniform in which I fought my battles. May God forgive me for ever having put on another” Benedict Arnold

    • @h0ckeyd
      @h0ckeyd 4 роки тому

      Another being the one he originally wore....as noted in the biography.

    • @ethanramos4441
      @ethanramos4441 4 роки тому +11

      h0ckeyd This is what he said on his deathbed plus he also request to wear his old Continental uniform

    • @trawlins396
      @trawlins396 4 роки тому

      @@h0ckeyd I think you have it backwards

    • @gettfoffmynews3315
      @gettfoffmynews3315 4 роки тому

      A work uniform in this day this day and age is synonymous...

    • @joeymason165
      @joeymason165 3 роки тому +5

      A great saying. Highly unlikely he said that

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 3 роки тому +15

    2:10 - Chapter 1 - Early life & education
    4:05 - Chapter 2 - Early military career
    5:25 - Chapter 3 - Outbreak of the war
    6:40 - Chapter 4 - On the way to fort ticonderoga
    8:55 - Mid roll ads
    10:40 - Chapter 5 - Taking the fort
    12:55 - Chapter 6 - Disaster in canada
    14:45 - Chapter 7 - Legal troubles
    16:25 - Chapter 8 - Success at saratoga
    18:45 - Chapter 9 - In charge of philadelphia
    20:20 - Chapter 10 - Betrayal at west point
    21:20 - Chapter 11 - General explains his actions

    • @thegoldencompany4191
      @thegoldencompany4191 3 роки тому +2

      thanks g

    • @billshiff2060
      @billshiff2060 Рік тому

      20:35 "On august the third 1780 Arnold assumed command and began weakening the post's defenses by delaying repairs, draining supplies and re assigning troops"- paid 20,000 pounds by Britain
      "On january the twentieth 2020 Biden assumed command and began weakening the country's defenses by delaying repairs, draining supplies and re assigning troops"- paid 31,000,000 dollars by china.
      HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.

  • @shaunalea823
    @shaunalea823 4 роки тому +63

    I'm actually related to dear ole Benedict on his mother's side, he's a cousin, one of my other relatives hunted him down during the war.

  • @elyksteeley1181
    @elyksteeley1181 4 роки тому +146

    This guy makes history so interesting, keep up the good work 👍

    • @c.darwin9259
      @c.darwin9259 4 роки тому +11

      More like history is interesting and school teachers make it boring.

    • @davidtyson6869
      @davidtyson6869 3 роки тому

      not saying he lying guest book say he's leaving some pot out United States already had a civilization before Christopher Columbus arrived with his group of pirates from the British prison waiting for trial for piracy and when the Moors arrived asking for the king assistance because of the nipples getting out of hand he emptied out his prison into United States Benedict Arnold found out all the truth

  • @TJDious
    @TJDious 4 роки тому +253

    Arnold's story could be a classical tragedy. High born and most definitely on the path to legendary American Hero status, instead remembered as a vile traitor whose lust for personal glory and wealth ruined him.

    • @stephanierando3477
      @stephanierando3477 4 роки тому +41

      If it weren't for his betrayal he could have been right up there with Washington and Jefferson

    • @alerojas2952
      @alerojas2952 4 роки тому +2

      There is nothing more shallow and over simplified than your comment.

    • @alerojas2952
      @alerojas2952 4 роки тому +6

      @Levi Kazama I am very sorry but with that nickname and avatar, I cannot take you seriously.

    • @alerojas2952
      @alerojas2952 4 роки тому +2

      @Levi Kazama are you gay? (Out of curiosity)

    • @alerojas2952
      @alerojas2952 4 роки тому +1

      @Levi Kazama There's sort of a pattern here. Anyway, I'd like to talk to you via a better channel rather than this. Are you in?

  • @wingy200
    @wingy200 4 роки тому +93

    Hell yeah! I requested Arnold a few months back. Not taking credit, but glad to see that you've covered him. Thanks Biographics!

  • @warwickeng5491
    @warwickeng5491 4 роки тому +62

    Ah, he fled on a ship called "vulture" how fitting lol

  • @jjrj8568
    @jjrj8568 4 роки тому +29

    Only Schwarzenegger made the name "Arnold" cool again

  • @stevenmillsap7882
    @stevenmillsap7882 4 роки тому +72

    The best personality on UA-cam thank you for everything you do

  • @gungriffen
    @gungriffen 4 роки тому +433

    Benedict Arnold is still an American insult.
    Being called his name is used to imply you're a traitor.

    • @danieldoel6216
      @danieldoel6216 4 роки тому +66

      I understand why he was a traitor however in his defence he was treated badly by his own side. But however I understand why he was considered a traitor

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots 4 роки тому +6

      @El loco holandes errante When there's people like Benedict Arnold in charge, that's true.
      When there's people who actually take a second stop and think before taking action eventually take charge, that's extremely rare.

    • @shebbs1
      @shebbs1 4 роки тому +3

      @El loco holandes errante Pretty much every country has something of that in their history, whether patriots, or partisans of those nations admit it or not. In my case, an Australian government in the 1970's sold out the East Timorese to Indonesia is an example.

    • @shebbs1
      @shebbs1 4 роки тому +2

      @inside outside upside downside It has been said that the greatest threat to a man's freedom is his government.

    • @danieldoel6216
      @danieldoel6216 4 роки тому +3

      @@shebbs1 To be fair you're not wrong

  • @risannd
    @risannd 4 роки тому +136

    I'm in charge.
    *NO, I'M IN CHARGE*

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 4 роки тому +30

    There was another officer in the Continental Army who greatly contributed to the victory at Saratoga, an European volunteer and military engineer who also designed and built the very fortifications of West Point. I'm talking of course about Tadeusz Kościuszko. He also did some interesting things after returning home, making him one of the greatest national heroes of Poland. Is also regarded as such by some Lithuanians and Belarusians.

    • @Hillbilly001
      @Hillbilly001 2 роки тому +4

      There's a town in Mississippi that's named after him. Proud of my Polish heritage in Tennessee USA

    • @MatthewWheeler13
      @MatthewWheeler13 2 місяці тому +1

      That's why we named a bridge after him. (I-87 over the Mohawk River)

  • @Ryan-vl2nn
    @Ryan-vl2nn 4 роки тому +11

    That’s crazy! I never knew Arnold was the one to first Christened a naval ship by the name Enterprise. Fascinating.

  • @paddyh8023
    @paddyh8023 4 роки тому +313

    By the way, where's that other guy we sent?
    What other guy
    Benedict Arnold
    Never heard of him
    OUCH

    • @wesleylauweizhong5357
      @wesleylauweizhong5357 4 роки тому +14

      Oh snap, Oversimplified.

    • @neonflashsparkotron5435
      @neonflashsparkotron5435 4 роки тому +9

      Barack Obama Oversimplified da best

    • @mainnevent515
      @mainnevent515 4 роки тому +9

      I'm pretty sure Robert E. Lee is a bigger traitor than Benedict Arnold👍🏿. How many Americans died in the Civil war compared to the American revolution? Bad video title.

    • @Beargrin89
      @Beargrin89 4 роки тому +16

      @@mainnevent515 I'd blame Jefferson Davis for that. IIRC: Robert E. Lee held opposing views to the Confederacy in general, but was deathly loyal to his state. Which decided it wanted join the Confederacy... and loyalty to one's state was a bigger deal at the time, I think.

    • @EpicGhostShadow
      @EpicGhostShadow 4 роки тому +2

      OVERSIMPLIFIED GANG

  • @hakeemfullerton8645
    @hakeemfullerton8645 4 роки тому +90

    Biographics please do videos on these people:
    Rudolf Hess
    Patrice Lumumba
    Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle
    Warren G Harding

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 4 роки тому +2

      I'd also like to add Werner Von Braun to that list, who I'd mentioned in a comment on the Walt Disney video since they collaborated on a project that helped to stimulate public interest in space travel (and pressured Congress into funding it).

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious 4 роки тому +9

      Omg Fatty Arbuckle's story NEEDS to be better known in today's "guilty until proven innocent" culture.

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 4 роки тому +9

      @@TJDious You mean "guilty till proven innocent in a court of law, but still guilty in a court of public opinion".

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious 4 роки тому +2

      @@z3r0_35 Yep, that.

    • @kenmcfann8128
      @kenmcfann8128 4 роки тому

      Hakim Fullerton Harding was a low life dog, and truth be known his wife poisoned him

  • @edwardhuerta7698
    @edwardhuerta7698 4 роки тому +173

    Do an episode on the fellow who took the photo you showed twice of Arnold’s first wife. He was way ahead of his time.

    • @verminjerky
      @verminjerky 4 роки тому +35

      I jumped directly to the comments to see who'd pointed this out.
      Unsure who had the gigantic brainfart of posting a supposed photo of a woman who died in 1775 but it's not every day you see technology and fashion labeled 100 years off.

    • @meditatewithcastidy6684
      @meditatewithcastidy6684 4 роки тому +5

      😂😂😂

    • @itsdamomma6028
      @itsdamomma6028 4 роки тому +10

      I wondered if that was a pic of an actress who played the wife in a play or movie a while ago? Cuz yeah...when was the first photo taken?

    • @lionharehart
      @lionharehart 4 роки тому +1

      I really don't believe I've seen this comment more than once. The "photo" is a charcoal portrait. You must still be in highschool. And not a good one.

    • @edwardhuerta7698
      @edwardhuerta7698 4 роки тому +30

      lionharehart: At 3:58 in the video, what I am looking at is most definitely a photo and not a “charcoal portrait”. Perhaps the lighting in your mother’s basement is of the same caliber as the “not very good” high school I must still be in. Ad hominem attacks really are the hallmark of an inferior intellect and a flaccid imagination, aren’t they? Quod erat demonstrandum.

  • @gwickle1685
    @gwickle1685 2 роки тому +8

    Arnold has, in recent years, held a fascination with me. I've read his biography by Randal and came away struggling with what kind of man he truly was. I was glad to hear from you that some historians share my anguish. Thank you

  • @houthoofd13
    @houthoofd13 4 роки тому +10

    I had a friend growing up named Ben Arnold. I never knew why his parents named him that. He has done well for himself, so it must not have affected him.

  • @joannecarolyn1595
    @joannecarolyn1595 4 роки тому +10

    Awesome stuff Simon! I really enjoy every episode. You turn boring, lengthy chunks of history into fun & easy to digest nuggets
    ! Great job Simon 😊👍👍👍

  • @eduardoramirezjr4403
    @eduardoramirezjr4403 4 роки тому +63

    The Seven Years War was known as the French and Indian War in North America. It was also thought to be first real World War.

    • @outdoors_review
      @outdoors_review 4 роки тому +6

      Why? I'd say the Napoleonic wars would seem more like it.

    • @bazzatheblue
      @bazzatheblue 4 роки тому +10

      @@outdoors_review well it was fought in europe,north america,asia and on the high seas that's what I heard.

    • @h0ckeyd
      @h0ckeyd 4 роки тому +1

      But wouldn't that, as Baz points out there, tell you that the North American theater was only a small cog in a huge, world wide conflict? People should step back and consider that though.

    • @matte6352
      @matte6352 4 роки тому +1

      It’s considered part of the Napoleonic Wars.

    • @martinhorvath4117
      @martinhorvath4117 4 роки тому +3

      the Napoleonic Wars (before WW1) was called the "Great War".

  • @timsvea5980
    @timsvea5980 4 роки тому +11

    Good video, Simon! I would love it if you did a video about General Thaddeus Kosciuszko, who also played a key role in the American revolutionary war

  • @ssn-5898
    @ssn-5898 2 роки тому +4

    Arnold: “The British will surely love me for this!”
    The British: “lol no”

  • @mercedescl
    @mercedescl 4 роки тому +8

    This is a man who had better talent than his peers but not enough talents to be bigger than his ego.

  • @ckilgore3983
    @ckilgore3983 4 роки тому +26

    Love your channel, but if Margaret Mansfield died in 1775 how did you manage to get a photograph of her when the first photograph wasn’t taken until 1826

  • @deadnum04
    @deadnum04 4 роки тому +11

    Simon, I grew right outside the park (1.7 miles) so the shout out was amazing in the introduction of your video. I actully worked there ine summer growning up at the visitors center.
    Big fan of all of your videos and I look forward to many more!

  • @aboredvi3t
    @aboredvi3t 4 роки тому +48

    Can you do Ulysses S Grant? Great general, honest (and clumsy) President, but misunderstood person.

    • @kciN1221
      @kciN1221 4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @Sockfilms
      @Sockfilms 4 роки тому

      Dude yes! My favorite historical figure

    • @alanhowitzer
      @alanhowitzer 4 роки тому +3

      How about Jefferson Davis?

  • @michaelfrench3396
    @michaelfrench3396 4 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your keeping the length of the in-video ads consistent. I enjoy knowing just how long I need to skip forward. Another great video Simon!

  • @nealweirich2311
    @nealweirich2311 4 роки тому +3

    My 4th Great Grandfather fought under Arnold. He enlisted under Arnold because the local Col was married to another Shipen gal. He ended up on a British prison ship and was let go because he was illiterate. He had to promise to go home and not fight against the British any longer. He broke that promise. When he did eventually return home, he was considered a hero. I wish I could find out more about his life.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 2 роки тому +15

    I'm insulted that people vilify Benedict Arnold more than Jefferson Davis. Arnold was a traitor, but he didn't lead the splitting of a nation to guard human bondage

    • @brianferris8668
      @brianferris8668 Рік тому +2

      Arnold wasn't a traitor. He was loyal to his king.

    • @gallusdomesticus5478
      @gallusdomesticus5478 10 місяців тому +1

      @@brianferris8668Except for the part where he initially was on the American side until he got his feelings hurt.

  • @TrashPanday
    @TrashPanday 4 роки тому +37

    "Back then, because Gunpowder was so volatile and dangerous a town's entire supply was generally kept in one place" Sound great ^^

    • @SCSilk
      @SCSilk 4 роки тому

      Remagy click boom.

    • @mainnevent515
      @mainnevent515 4 роки тому +5

      I'm pretty sure Robert E. Lee is a bigger traitor than Benedict Arnold👍🏿. How many Americans died in the Civil war compared to the American revolution? Bad video title.

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 4 роки тому +2

      @@mainnevent515 you really need to read about Lee. With Lincoln's death he actually was who prevented the US from having decades of gorilla warfare.
      The causes of the civil war were complicated, and probably no one alive today understands all the nuances.

    • @lsxbird7874
      @lsxbird7874 3 роки тому +2

      Robert E Lee is an American hero. He loved his country and fought to protect it from an encroaching goverment

    • @restinpeacekobe987
      @restinpeacekobe987 3 роки тому +2

      @@lsxbird7874 no he isnt actually he helped to try and destroy america so hes the exact opposite

  • @MidnightCities
    @MidnightCities 4 роки тому +152

    Are you trolling us by putting an actual picture of a lady as his wife at 3:58 who died in 1700’s when photos weren’t created until 1800’s?

    • @MARKOUTTV
      @MARKOUTTV 4 роки тому +16

      I thought I was crazy

    • @TheGeekyHippie
      @TheGeekyHippie 4 роки тому +17

      I came to make the same comment but checked first to see if anyone else had said anything. Glad you noticed as well.

    • @donaldhorn1
      @donaldhorn1 4 роки тому +2

      Whoa

    • @lionharehart
      @lionharehart 4 роки тому +14

      I'm confused that you wouldn't consider that the "photo" was a charcoal portrait, that would have been reasonably priced for citizens at the time. Is this your American education??

    • @strawbilly
      @strawbilly 4 роки тому +34

      GTF out of here with charcoal drawling. That was 100% a ferrotype

  • @frenchjr25
    @frenchjr25 4 роки тому +2

    A significant fact-check maybe others have mentioned. Arnold was a British citizen. Same with our Founding Fathers. He didn't betray his country, since he was a spy for England. It was our Founding Fathers that betrayed their country and formed a new one.

  • @trojanette8345
    @trojanette8345 4 роки тому +27

    (EDITED COMMENT): Simon, I may have mentioned this before in another video comment. However, I have been wondering and it would be interesting (in the vane of 'balanced reporting') if people could see a video from a British perspective of 1) What were most British children such as yourself taught about Britain's role in the American Revolution? 2) What was the British subject reaction to news of the loss of one of its colonies? 3) How did the Crown and government treat the defeated Red Coat army upon their return home? Were there any sanctions waiting for them? 4) What was life like for the general's who lost the war? (....or was KG III to far along in his descent into 'madness' to fully understand what he had lost)? 5) One final question that is more trivia than anything: When it was reported (by whomever) that General Cornwallis appointed, General Charles O’Hara, in his 'stead to hand over his surrender sword to General "Buckskin" George Washington how did the Crown respond to the actual surrender itself? How much of the information was either shared or spared with the British public regarding the defeat in the War of Independence campaign? Hoping you either share your thoughts or make a general video to answer some of these questions for all. Thanks for your consideration.

    • @alicemurphy8111
      @alicemurphy8111 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. That would be fascinating from the POV of the British.

    • @JS-id7nd
      @JS-id7nd 2 роки тому +2

      The majority of people in the UK aren’t taught about the American revolution at least in first, middle and high school.

    • @ChrisCrossClash
      @ChrisCrossClash Рік тому

      @@alicemurphy8111 Im not being big headed here, but we Brits couldn't give a flying f*ck about the whole American revolution, it's not being bitter or anything it's just a footnote in our over 1000 years of history.

  • @thegreatwalrus153
    @thegreatwalrus153 4 роки тому +21

    Baron Von Steuben would be a great choice he was an alleged homosexual who trained the colonial army during the revolutionary war

    • @RichterBelmont2235
      @RichterBelmont2235 4 роки тому +4

      I think I watched a Thai version of history channel about that guy like, decades ago. Supposedly his homeland didn't like him much due to his sexual orientation but US welcomes him and he brought their troops proper and efficient military disciplines in returns. was that the same guy?

    • @rachelbrenner4092
      @rachelbrenner4092 4 роки тому +2

      Washington hired him for his brains not sexual orientation.

    • @thegreatwalrus153
      @thegreatwalrus153 4 роки тому

      @@rachelbrenner4092 yeah back then you would of been put to death for being a homosexual so it was a big for him cause he was brazen

    • @nomoremr.niceguy4778
      @nomoremr.niceguy4778 3 роки тому

      He was an excellent drill instructor who turned plow boys into marksmen. His love life didn’t matter. In school here he was taught as a hero and his private life was never mentioned. Washington needed someone who could do the job. He trained thousands of men during the war. Steuben county NY is named after him. A huge estate in NY was given to him at the end of the war. But I’ve read towards the end he had bad business deals and drank heavy and died broke. Probably had more than his fair share of PTS. I can’t imagine the stress of training men only to watch them go off and die. That has to mess with you.

  • @michaelmayer3259
    @michaelmayer3259 4 роки тому +3

    Your videos continue to impress; detailed and well explained. Great job!!!!

  • @KingofDiamonds117
    @KingofDiamonds117 4 роки тому +7

    I got to see the monument during my travels across america. It was interesting.

  • @MikeFrazee222
    @MikeFrazee222 3 роки тому +2

    I had other video options for this, but I automatically search for Simon.

  • @danm6499
    @danm6499 4 роки тому +1

    Dear Simon,
    I'm a huge fan of the channel, which is why i need to point this out. Nearly all of the musical selections for this video are American Civil War tunes. Specifically, Marching through Georgia, Dixie, and Battlehymn of the Republic. It was still a great recap of Arnold's legacy.
    Thank you
    DM

  • @dirkbonesteel
    @dirkbonesteel 4 роки тому +18

    Poor Benedict will be forgotten in a few years. We have a new greatest ever traitor in town

    • @cs7725
      @cs7725 4 роки тому +2

      dirkbonesteel Yep!

    • @hockeyking30
      @hockeyking30 4 роки тому +1

      @@cs7725 GUYS DONT UNDERESTIMATE NOSTALGIA LOL

    • @kwd3109
      @kwd3109 4 роки тому +3

      Yep, China wouldn't take him so he's hiding in Russia now.

    • @dirkbonesteel
      @dirkbonesteel 4 роки тому +1

      @Richard Johnson Your reply is kind of dumb. Look at the reply above you, they did it right

    • @newbloomwon
      @newbloomwon 4 роки тому +2

      Richard Johnson why? Nancy is finally doing her job and standing up to Trump-Putin.

  • @daniellemaxwell8883
    @daniellemaxwell8883 4 роки тому +4

    Biographic on Harriet Tubman and Nate Turner. Please!!!!

  • @joemoment-o1275
    @joemoment-o1275 4 роки тому +4

    My favorite breakfast! So excited to see others join me!

  • @acdragonrider
    @acdragonrider 4 роки тому +2

    Benedict Arnold was an early warning of the problems of the American Revolution for these reasons. And a warning that if people don’t get compensated, they may rebel.
    1. The high command of the continental army was deeply disorganized. Wayne, mifflin, Gates, Charles Lee were all generals who challenged Washington. They alzo frequently attacked Arnold as evidenced by the Middlebrook trials when he was ultimately acquitted.
    2. Many say that Arnold was greedy but I don’t think he was.
    Washington was unique since he served America without the promise of pay. The other soldiers in the army did and pay was often one of their greatest concerns. At the end of the revolution, many soldiers had not been paid for many years, instead receiving IOUs from congress, a congress that was very weak and often did not help the army.
    This was a regular problem throughout the war and into the postwar era and was one of many grievances they shared. Arnold could not survive without his pay especially since he would later get married to Peggy shippen, one of the most upper class ladies of the colonies, This was exacerbated by the fact that he deserved recognition and pay for his services and rightfully so. He had fought so hard for the revolution and his leg got shot twice in battle.
    He felt slighted and made sacrifices that he felt he never got accounted for.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 4 роки тому +7

    Trump: Most treacherous? Hold my beer.

    • @chrisscheidt9643
      @chrisscheidt9643 4 роки тому

      Damnit....I posted my similar comment, then scrolled down... you beat me to it :( lol

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 4 роки тому +28

    Ah yes, the second British civil war

    • @RichMitch
      @RichMitch 4 роки тому +5

      @Sam Bacon it's technically correct mate lol

    • @RichMitch
      @RichMitch 4 роки тому

      @Sam Bacon 🤣

    • @johnmccallum8512
      @johnmccallum8512 4 роки тому +1

      You are forgetting Prince Charles Edward Stuart The Young Pretender. 1745 and all that

    • @RichMitch
      @RichMitch 4 роки тому +2

      @@johnmccallum8512 tbf i also left out the first 3 between Steven and Matilda

    • @johnmccallum8512
      @johnmccallum8512 4 роки тому +1

      Nah they were a silly English affair between William the Bastards (Duke of Normandy) sons and daughter. Not to say that Scotland didn't also have plenty of Nobles fighting for The Throne.

  • @Insectoid_
    @Insectoid_ 4 роки тому +9

    Correction. America’s biggest traitor is currently serving as president

    • @cs7725
      @cs7725 4 роки тому +3

      Adam O Open your eyes ,my friend. Trump doesn’t care about you. He’s a traitor and a criminal. I wasn’t a fan of Obama either but we have a crook in office right now. He’s an embarrassment to our country.

    • @MrEpicface97
      @MrEpicface97 4 роки тому

      He's not that bad the job market is good the economy is good that's what the people who voted for him wanted

    • @Insectoid_
      @Insectoid_ 4 роки тому

      MrEpicface97 hmm I find most of his hardcore base tend to want less non white people near them. The job market has just carried on from Obama. Trump is fucking up everything else. He’s not a good guy.

  • @izzojoseph2
    @izzojoseph2 4 роки тому +4

    Your transitions are getting pretty TIGHT!

  • @kevinseraphimday6373
    @kevinseraphimday6373 4 роки тому +2

    Well now THAT was an enlightening mini-epic expansion on the knowledge of Arnold most of us had gotten in elementary school, that being the passing reference "Benedict Arnold was a "soldier" on our side who turned traitor". At least that is all I got. Had no clue he was a general even. I really dug the story. Thanks!

  • @Zulu-Lemon
    @Zulu-Lemon 4 роки тому +14

    So he basically just had issues with all the managers at his job?
    He would’ve definitely went to HR

    • @gettfoffmynews3315
      @gettfoffmynews3315 4 роки тому +1

      HR was apparently Washington and obviously this is another instance where HR fails another compliant and much needed employee...The company(United States) still has yet to care about the issues

  • @cr-jj1nr
    @cr-jj1nr 4 роки тому +7

    He won't be remembered as America's greatest traitor for much longer

  • @vimalchevdawala7303
    @vimalchevdawala7303 4 роки тому +4

    You deserve more recognition

  • @katrinastorm5907
    @katrinastorm5907 4 роки тому +4

    Along with the lesser known facts in this video, the TV show Turn:Washington's Spies did a good job of portraying Arnold's life and conflicts. Would totally recommend

    • @sisilotau2185
      @sisilotau2185 2 роки тому

      Loved that show

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 Рік тому

      Love that show but it really made me hate Arnold. Dude was more concerned with stealing cotton and tobacco than fighting which is pretty funny since he bragged to the British about how fast he could defeat the Continental Army.

  • @MillennialForChrist
    @MillennialForChrist 4 роки тому +1

    Benedict Arnold's military story reminds me of Proverbs 16:18, which says "Pride goes before destruction and haughtiness before a fall." Sounds like his altercations w/fellow American officers was rooted in pride, insecurity, a desire to be recognized.

  • @TacDyne
    @TacDyne 4 роки тому +2

    Before he betrayed his country, his country betrayed him. He was just like Patton. Imagine if Patton had been stripped of his command and grounded for the remainder of the war for being good at his job. That is exactly what was done to Arnold. So he went to who would let him fight.

  • @tristianwilson3497
    @tristianwilson3497 4 роки тому +15

    Can you do a biography of Simon Whistler

    • @tigerstyle4505
      @tigerstyle4505 4 роки тому

      No. He's already said he wants nothing to do with it.

  • @nicholasustianowski1087
    @nicholasustianowski1087 4 роки тому +9

    How about you do a video on the Irish Revolutionary Michael Collins?

  • @bnwiley77
    @bnwiley77 4 роки тому +33

    03:55 How is there a photograph of someone that died in 1776? Did I miss something?

    • @richardshiggins704
      @richardshiggins704 4 роки тому +4

      Kodak was up and running then in Rochester !

    • @Tazer183
      @Tazer183 4 роки тому +9

      Um. Girl Power?

    • @AbtinX
      @AbtinX 4 роки тому

      There was early photography at the time. They sometimes took pictures of deceased people after dressing them up etc, that might be one of those.

    • @LazerMan95
      @LazerMan95 4 роки тому

      This bothered me too. The oldest surviving photo is from the 1820s.

  • @salucin
    @salucin 4 роки тому +2

    Benedict Arnold: America’s greatest traitor
    Donald Trump: Hold my beer

    • @wilhelmbittrich88
      @wilhelmbittrich88 4 роки тому +1

      How is he a traitor? From what I've seen he loves his country more than anything. I'd swap our country's leader for Trump any day.

    • @salucin
      @salucin 4 роки тому

      You’ve got a deal, Wilhelm.

    • @pajo103
      @pajo103 4 роки тому

      God your a idiot, Trump love merika its Obama and the Clinton's who hate merika

  • @donmaxwell7826
    @donmaxwell7826 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work Simon!

  • @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
    @fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 4 роки тому +7

    7:20 I thought that was the guy that started a furniture store.

    • @frostfirei
      @frostfirei 4 роки тому

      It was jsut name for him, as a Vermont Hero.

  • @sandboxproductions_youtube
    @sandboxproductions_youtube 4 роки тому +20

    I presume that nearly half the people who have watched this video watched the Oversimplified video on the American Revolution.
    By the way, I watched that as well.

  • @stanklepoot
    @stanklepoot 4 роки тому +3

    I was surprised that you never got around to the story behind the monument. The story goes that during a raid he led after turning his coat, Arnold's forces captured some American soldiers. Arnold asked one what he'd do if they ever captured Gen. Arnold. The soldier basically replied that they'd cut off the leg wounded in Saratoga and bury it with full military honors and great fanfare. The rest they'd hang as a traitor. So, the monument that honors Arnold's deeds during the Battle of Saratoga features just that same wounded leg, but with no mention of his name or any other likeness.

  • @gw7624
    @gw7624 Рік тому

    American officer: I see you've learned to tie your own shoelaces.
    Subordinate: Yep.
    Officer: Have a promotion.

  • @MagnesiumStorm
    @MagnesiumStorm 4 роки тому

    I love that transition. Squarespace! nicely done my friend. Great videos. Always so much fun watching and learning. xx

  • @michaelmoore7975
    @michaelmoore7975 4 роки тому +21

    "Benedict Arnold: America’s Greatest Traitor" Step aside, Benny. There's a new guy applying for that position.

    • @matios83
      @matios83 4 роки тому +2

      YOU

    • @lionharehart
      @lionharehart 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Michael Moore!!👍 Iricanado trend 👎👎👎👎👎

    • @exexpat11
      @exexpat11 4 роки тому +7

      No, Obama is out of Office but he was a Massive Conman and Traitor.

    • @InfernoBlade64
      @InfernoBlade64 4 роки тому +3

      exexpat11 lol imagine subscribing to dankula who thinks anecdotes is similar to data

    • @newbloomwon
      @newbloomwon 4 роки тому +8

      exexpat11 because he upset the order of never having a black man in a prominent position or because he didn’t do Putin’s bidding and start destroying the U.S. from the inside?

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 4 роки тому +6

    5:No taxation without representation

  • @RobKandell
    @RobKandell 4 роки тому +15

    The soundtrack to "Betrayal at West Point" is "Dixie". I love it.

  • @jedigamerwinston9360
    @jedigamerwinston9360 4 роки тому +2

    I live next to valcore and I love this history.

  • @ddowell84
    @ddowell84 4 роки тому +3

    Adam Schiff took over this title.

  • @kimberlyhackney8190
    @kimberlyhackney8190 4 роки тому +7

    The writer does a great job of researching!

    • @ericbicknell7231
      @ericbicknell7231 3 роки тому

      But whoever chose the music could have found some period music instead of music from the Civil War and beyond.

  • @samanthadodd8112
    @samanthadodd8112 4 роки тому +17

    I really enjoyed this one alot.
    U have to think if every other military person he worked with ended up hating him, there has to be a reason. Maybe is was always a d!ck. Not surprising he turned trailor.

    • @LlibertarianGalt
      @LlibertarianGalt 4 роки тому

      Seems like he blamed everyone else for his problems 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @wcate8301
      @wcate8301 4 роки тому +2

      Samantha, it was his superiors who hated him. The troops and most of his subordinates would follow him anywhere. I think he must have had an 18th century version of ADD. His peers and his superiors couldn't manage his energy level.

    • @samanthadodd8112
      @samanthadodd8112 4 роки тому

      @@wcate8301
      Thank you.

  • @stevenkarmazenuk2540
    @stevenkarmazenuk2540 4 роки тому +19

    I was today years old when I learned that Benedict Arnold commissioned the first USS Enterprise.

    • @mattosullivan9687
      @mattosullivan9687 4 роки тому +4

      Steve same reaction that really really really sucks

    • @Arwar555
      @Arwar555 4 роки тому

      Thanks I was going to point that out

    • @whichisuprise7346
      @whichisuprise7346 3 роки тому +1

      I can hear Patrick Stweart laughing

  • @xx-or8qx
    @xx-or8qx 4 роки тому +2

    Simon Whistler has taught me more about history than public school.

    • @billshiff2060
      @billshiff2060 Рік тому

      Yeah but at least you learned about many of the 105 genders right?

    • @ardenalexa94
      @ardenalexa94 10 місяців тому

      I agree. Plus a lot of facts that we were taught in school you find out aren’t true

  • @bradgillette9253
    @bradgillette9253 4 роки тому +2

    Yes! Awesome addition to my perspective! Certainly more than we were taught in US schools. Thanks again. Keep the good stuff coming. My wife and I are huge fans of your channels!!!

  • @GrandisArcanum
    @GrandisArcanum 4 роки тому +8

    Arnold was ahead of his time in regards to his views about a corrupt Congress.

  • @sallyozuna3883
    @sallyozuna3883 4 роки тому +5

    Benedict Arnold WAS America's greatest tratior, now OVERWHELMINGLY overtaken by Donald Trump.

  • @_Abjuranax_
    @_Abjuranax_ 4 роки тому +3

    Andre was convicted and hung as a spy, which is espionage during war. Arnold was a turncoat and fought just as bravely for the British as he did for the Americans. As far as I know, Arnold was never tried and convicted of treason, even in absentia, so technically he isn't a traitor but was only judged in the court of public opinion. While he would have been tried and executed if caught, there would have been cities and states named after him if he did not change sides. But even the worst of criminals thought that they were doing the right thing at the time and could justify their actions for doing so.

  • @rjyoyo2096
    @rjyoyo2096 4 роки тому +1

    Simon, Buddy, your audio is out of sync lol. Love your channel, keep up the good work.

  • @bmheldstab
    @bmheldstab 3 роки тому

    I love biographics. Watched so many of your videos. Learned so much. Please keep up the great work.

  • @cdjhyoung
    @cdjhyoung 4 роки тому +3

    This 'tribute' to General Arnold may be true today, but I think we are witnessing the time in our history when he is moved into second place in the hall of shame of traitors.

  • @command_unit7792
    @command_unit7792 4 роки тому +4

    he is traitor to traitors so he is technicly not a traitor by rejoining the British

    • @richlopez5896
      @richlopez5896 4 роки тому

      He's a traitor for turning his back on his former brothers in arms

  • @dr.g3860
    @dr.g3860 4 роки тому +6

    Still not as bad as Benedict Donald.

  • @retroambassador2945
    @retroambassador2945 4 роки тому +1

    i had to do research on my ancestory for social studies in middle school. during my research i found an archived payment slip for one of my ancestors Ezekiel Sanford who fought in the Battle of Saratoga. it was signed by Bennidict Arnold.

  • @littlerockdoc3183
    @littlerockdoc3183 4 роки тому +1

    Fun fact for all you Hamilton fans. Bernidict Arnold’s second wife was close friends with Theodosa Alston, Aaron Burr’s future wife. In fact, following Arnold’s treason, his wife fled to Theodosia’s house in Georgia.

  • @tcferrara2387
    @tcferrara2387 4 роки тому +5

    Is there a way for us to get the sources you use for your videos? The Biographics website hasn't been updated in a while so many of your more recent videos aren't posted there.

  • @virgilflowers9846
    @virgilflowers9846 2 роки тому +3

    Benedict Arnold is one of the most fascinating of the Revolutionaries to me, along with Aaron Burr (who actually served under Arnold in Maine and Canada). It’s easy to just write him off as a traitor and a treacherous egomaniac and move on, but that doesn’t even come close to telling the whole story. The fact is that he was a bona fide American Hero, and did indeed get screwed over, multiple times. His injury was also far worse than this video makes it seem.
    I wonder how much nudging from Peggy he really had to go to Andre. I would love to know his state of mind around that time. Of course, in the end, there is no excuse for his treason, but I think it’s important to look at the whole picture when looking at Benedict Arnold.

  • @Allataria
    @Allataria 4 роки тому +6

    That's a cracking photograph of Arnold's wife, who you say died in 1775. Photography wasn't invented for another 40+ years: I think you might have the wrong Margaret Mansfield.

    • @stevenkarmazenuk2540
      @stevenkarmazenuk2540 4 роки тому

      Before photographs, there were various image capture devices, including the Daguerrotype

    • @Allataria
      @Allataria 4 роки тому +1

      @@stevenkarmazenuk2540 Not in 1775 there wasn't. There is no way that photo is of Arnold's wife, she's even wearing Victorian era clothes.

  • @adamled99
    @adamled99 4 роки тому +3

    me: "there's gotta be a biographic on Benedict Arnold. This guy covers everyone"
    *sees it was uploaded 2 days ago*
    " yep"

  • @cthecheese1620
    @cthecheese1620 3 роки тому

    I just found this channel through this video and I’m so happy to already know the host. I can’t wait to binge this entire channel. 😍