To correct myself on the mod limits on Console: It's 5GB for Skyrim and 2GB for Fallout 4. I would still like to see this improved for console players though (I'll lay off the Skooma in the next video). Edit: Yes PC has no limit, we bow to nooone!
I just want to say thank you Danny (ESO) you're really keeping us up-to-date and informed on the newest and coolest mods and information regarding bethesda's new stuff... Other than these updates on the updates of Skyrim... I do have to say I haven't really seen much in the way of new material from you other than starfield, and a few other games ... I'm hoping once you have everything in order will be able to see you play some of the new mods and things like that, my vote is for East empire expansion if that counts. I also wanted to add that I'm sure that the decision will fix the achievements problem and we will be able to use achievements along with some of these quest mods... I can understand not having achievements active if there are cheats enabled but for additional content and things like that it should still be active. Otherwise you'll have to make a new save and a new game without any mods.
Mod limit is not 5gb it is the size of your hard drive, I can send u a screen shot if you need, mine says 2.2 terabytes used and I have zero mods installed.
@@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH I still think they're going to be the same as always but yeah I do understand that if concerns recently and Microsoft decisions
@@changsiah2 As soon as Todd leaves the studio, do you think it will still be the same? If you replace each part of the ship over time, is it still the same ship as it was? Bethesda lost its originality as soon as it made Fallout 76, and it lost its creativity when making Starfield. I dread to see what they make of TESVI, if I’m wrong and they do make it good, shame on me I suppose.
@@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH Bethesda on never lose falling from grace and for the most part 76 is doing good fine but yeah I can kind of see why people don't really like them nowadays are they still didn't get abandoned unlike most live service games these days I'm in Starfield still pretty good despite its flaws I'm sure the modding thing will mostly stay the same as despite some ups and down and aside from maybe Garry's mod (although I would say that once over filled with nextbot and lack of any other stuff) and Minecraft (still has some popularity but kind of died a little recently) I just feel like Bethesda kind of feels irreplaceable for multiple gaming to be honest and I'd rather not bring up my examples that is Rockstar or from software but not really community I hopefully we get to a Todd's successor just in case It's a long way but we'll wait and see 6 I don't think they are evil or greedy but yeah I do feel like Hater Maybe I do hope they were trying to bring back the fans a bit more but still
They never said they wouldn't update, in-fact they said that they will have more updates in the future, if you actually bothered to pat attention to the anniversary announcement trailer
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 Yeah, the implication being "to fix bugs with the AE content". Who would assume they meant "To reintroduce paid mods and not actually patch major bugs?"
They realized they have nothing to lose now that they aren't their own... but rather a puppet of Microsoft. So - they might as well start cutting their feet off and try to pawn them off. Nobody has any respect for Bethesda these days. Wouldn't surprise me if in 5 years, this "company" has been shut down by MS
in the old system, modders that made creation club content got paid upfront. now that modders are getting %30 off of each sale I doubt Bethesda will be able to bundle them again. just my thoughts I could be wrong though.
Non since it not creation club content and isn’t added through patches, 2 they probably have a deal with the modder because they are getting no royalties that they won’t be adding theses mod to a rerererererealease game without permission, where as before they got paid ahead of time for the whole mod.
@@ryanroberts714 IMO that’s on the creator. They don’t have to take the deal. They can just keep posting them for free and depend on supporters. The mod author gets to set the price too. I don’t know but it seems like a win for both parties to me
I have been playing skyrim since its release and I am at the point now where if I have to constantly pay for mods, retextures,bug fixes, etc it's going to kill my love for the game
Not the best voice acting for sure. But to be fair, remember the court wizard for Dragons Reach in Whiterun? That voice actor is actually part of the game and his voice acting is even worse.
I'm going to miss this. I enjoyed modding more than playing. But Skyrim is like a pet. You can't leave it alone for too long because after a few weeks nothing works and honestly it's a little heartbreaking. VR was tough to mod and those mods were an accomplishment for me.
Tbh if they hadn’t JUST released anniversary edition I’d be more ok with this. Now I’m just waiting for them to bundle it all again in ANOTHER edition.
@@nocomment2176honestly wouldn’t put it passed them anymore, people look passed them being an absolutely scummy company in terms of monetization, because Skyrim and fallout are generally beloved series. they’re horrible for it.
Nothing good came out of this before, and unfortunately, I don't think anything good will come out of it now. Makes me hesitate to purchase TES6. Long live Nexus and the huge modding community there. I wanna say thanks to the modders for adding so much content through Nexus over the years. Got me through hard times. Cheers 🍻
@@Tattletale-Delta Forcing payment for developing mods based on an engine created by others deserves criticism. If a PC modder requires SKSE, HDT, SMP, Parallax frameworks, bodyslide, mod organizer 2, a dressing mod...etc...then they should not require payment, as the mod frameworks that require their mod to work were free. If every mod dependeny that is currently being used on PC required a $5 payment then skyrim would be 10 years dead and none of the current modding scene would exist. People do not play vanilla skyrim in any large amounts to support the modding community that is now trying to get paid. They are not the best modders, they have not created the dependencies, designed the world changing mods that makes skyrim new. They are exploiters who are riding the coattails of the great modders of the past who did it for free and might at the most take donations today. Pay for play modders are scum because without all of the free mods and chivalrous modders out there they would have no audience. Now if they want to give 99% of their income to the modding community and take 1% then that would make sense.
So let's say over the next couple of years I only add 20 or so new MODs... that would mean we get to pay another $100 - $200 for the game? Awesome, I'm so excited. Please Bethesda, charge me harder.
Only if you're adding paid mods. The mods you already have installed are still free and will continue to be free. More free mods will continue to be made, alongside paid mods. I don't like this update, but some of you are complaining before even understanding this update actually works.
But the stupidity on their part is not expanding memory for console players. You can sell all you want, but if I don't have the extra room, there's no point in dropping the cash. And I'm going to choose free mods, especially quest/DLC size mods over other content. As skilled as she is, Elinora's house mods are just too cut & paste compared to some of the gorgeous stuff I've seen (the mod with the Japanese garden is fantastic). It's gotta be fresh, different new quest content before I personally spend cash. I'd rather donate to casual modders.
"They are mods in all but name guys!! It is certainly not mods!!" Bethesda said it isn't official content and it disables achievements. Get over your desire to defend a billion dollar corporation, they are mods and that is it.
This going to kill their games life sooner rather than later. Like who the hell up in the corpo ladder thought of this nonsense? Expecting people to pay for mods is truly pathetic and exploitative.
The same kind of person who just exploded Unity and EA before that. That fucker wanted you to pay for bullets in FPS games and well the Unity thing is well known as it's still being talked about haha
@@chaserseven2886 It has already happened, Starfield is the prime example. Only hope for that game to be played for years was the FREE mods but now since they have found a way to profit off mods i doubt anyone is going to be payinh even MORE money to make that game interesting and fun. Its the developers job to make the base game fun and exciting so that playes can enjoy it for years and then modders take over and add new stuff, not leave it to the modders to make the game and profit off their work and make the customers pay. Its pathetic.
You realize only mod authors that apply for the creation program and upload that way are the paid mods? Any mod author who still wants to upload mods for free can do so.
@@horridfuture3835Bethesda modding community is full of entitled crybabies, like ESO pointed out Bethesda has been allowing free mods for so long that when they want people to start making career out of it the community has melt down, and guaranteed it’s only because Bethesda is getting part of the profit (it’s their game and their assets of course they are gonna get part of the profit)
Too late, I'm already effed! Tried downgrading and now I can't re-load the creation club content from before the update, you know, the content I've already paid for? Effing swine.
I guess starfield really showed them that they can't create good content anymore, therefore they're trying to ask consumers to do the job for them Sounds about right. If they put half as much time into making new games good as they do trying to monetize Skyrim maybe we'd get a decent product these days
Bethesda can make goo games anymore, they have to milk a decade old game just to satiate their greed. With their credibility at an all time low, they go and do thus.
The gaming focus has changed from quality to pure profit. It seems to have infected everything, especially after Diablo Immortal. It opend the gate for outrageous monitization. If we gamers keep buying the mods, no matter the cost, it will only get worse. Please quit buying DLC/mods. You are paying for things that should be present in the game.
It was mostly millennials playing back then. Say what you will about them but they had the ability to see the damage being done to the community and the vast majority united against paid mods. 8 years later and its the zoomies with luke warm IQs playing this game now and grew up with games charging in game for luxuries so they are programmed to like the concept and a significant amount are defending paid mods. in 2015 therer was a large backlash, it was beautiful, in 2023 there is no unity now, just long time gamers wondering how the hell this next generation of kids playing Skyrim can be so eager to bend over so easily for Bethesda's gimmicks.
@@robr135The average Gen Z was 13 by their first attempt of paid mods through Steam and 15 when Creation Club came out. We weren't born in 2010 and we didn't learn about videogames in 2020 😂😂😂
I never thought I'd say this, TES being my absolute favorite game series of all time, but in all honesty, the way Bethesda seems to be going, I've about reached the point where I'm no longer at all interested in TES 6.
After years of patching it in, they finally added native ultrawide support. I tested it this morning and all the menus work as though you're using a standard resolution. The UI is scaled to match your screen and the character creator functions properly.
I have the feeling we're slowing watching an end of an era. Goodbye to mods made purely for passion; by people that love the game, and hello to something more corprate, like Minecraft's modding system or something.
@@MrReaperofDeadyou do realize they didn't say "all of a sudden all mods are paid and people aren't going to make mods out of love anymore ever and all this is happening immediately" right?
it's what we've already seen happen to the gaming industry as a whole. As it generates more money, more executives get involved than creators. Things can get too popular for their own good. I think Bethesda is already on the edge of being the next EA with FO76 and now Starfield's release. If the Creation Kit is taking this long to roll out because they're figuring out how best to monetize it (which I fear) I think they're spelling their own doom.
@@Walawalacookie Depends, really. Release cadence will be mired in monetary gain and could drive qualitative falloff for many passion projects. Think of it akin to UA-cam -- quantity is king.
I can't believe no one's talking about this Bethesda has actually found a way to monetize mods first it was the creation club now with this new creations system they have basically made it a micro transaction system for paid mods
@@electricfootballhero1349 sure, it's principally a hobby, but we see tons and tons of beloved modders drop off when things get tight at home and it can be hard to support your hobby or find the will to keep going with it. Adding compensation just helps modders keep going.
@@jahnyguitah7999 I'm a modder when Bethesda releases these "updates" I always worry about the changes, because I know some of it can break mods or the requirements my mods use so I have to adjust just to get it working again, this happened before with their last update and it just happened now and it's turned me off from making more things with this game.
@@yesmlord9483 I get that, but at the same time, a game's gotta get updated now and then, whether it's due to porting or QOL changes or what have you. In this case, it was some looooong overdue bugs. I'd be really interested in seeing your mods! Got a link?
This isn't a subject that needs a 'balanced' analysis, it's evil, it deliberately breaks existing mods and is entirely a middle finger the customers .. it's simply Todd who's whined for a decade that BSG 'lost out' on a revenue stream when they didn't monetize mods trying to persuade 'modern players' who've become used to being gouged my 'live service' crap.
Thank you bethesda for letting me create content for you and tetting me have 30% of the profit when you sell it. Thats very generous of you to allow me to make you money by breathing new life into this game for you and allowing telling the fans youre actually supporting me instead of just finding new ways to use other peoples work to monetize your 10 plus years old single player adventure game.
30% is better than 0% though. Not great, but I imagine it's similar to Minecraft Bedrock's paid mod percentage and lots of the modders for that game do quite well in that program. A game as popular as Skyrim and Minecraft are a great place for this kind of platform because the mods will have a broad audience and since they aren't too expensive by DLC standards they'll likely sell pretty well.
What's funny (sad) is that just a couple days ago I started to strongly consider picking up and Xbox Series X on holiday discount so that I could get back into Skyrim with much better mod capability than I've had to deal with on my PS4 for ages. Now I'm not going to do that. Bethesda is a joke these days.
I was in your boat friend, I’m a PlayStation player, I was going to switch to Xbox a while ago to play with better mods on these games because of Sony’s moronic restrictions, but I decided to just build a PC instead, so much better of an investment, I recommend you do the same, I’m glad I never got an Xbox. Much better mods on Skyrim and Fallout 4 through Nexus.
I have a laptop that can run it quite well with everything short of like 4K texture pack mods but Skyrim deserves a big screen and I just don't have the space (or budget really) for the setup I really want right now. Hope to have it someday but these grocery bills are killin me 😅 I had been in the process of trying to set up my laptop so that it could display on my TV and I could play Skyrim via Steam Big Screen mode with a Switch Pro controller so I might give that another go.
Danny my good mate, the storage limit is your Hard Drive space limit of your computer not the limit of mod storage. I know this since I've got a little bit over 26TB for my main gaming drive and it reflects that in the creations tab.
@@dinadanalcedines628 Well he also mentioned via pc plus I've even posted it in his livestream from yesterday and I even posted that it is pc. What I was referencing is starting at 11:47 and he is misjudging certain aspects of the pc side of things.
Didn't Bethesda make a clause in their TOS that any mods that are made for the Creation Club come under their ownership, or am I mixing them up with the Nexus?
I think it was any creation made with the creation kit is owned by zos(Bethesda's parent company), so an even wider net than just CC content. But i'm quoting from memory of a few years ago. It sounds shady but they have never enforced that clause of the agreement to my knowledge, its probably their to protect their IP.
All they would have to do is basically set it up so the game reserves more space for mods so instead of the 5 GBs they already reserve they could bump it up to 10 GBs or 15 GBs, this would also increase the amount of storage space the game takes up by a lot
I'm sure they will add to the creation shop for console players to buy more gig space but capped at 10 to 15 gigs. Don't be surprised when they finally release their Fallout 4 next gen update it will include the creation shop.
We will make you pay for skyrim over and over for over a decade, then got the fans to fix it without bugs and now they are charging for that too. Boycott mods this will destroy the mod community and it will never be the same
It won’t destroy the community, the community is over reacting, y’all claim they want yo support modders but when Bethesda makes it so y’all hate it, it’s only because Bethesda gets some money from them y’all have a problem with it
So the space available for mods displayed in creation club is actually how much space is left on YOUR hard dive/SSD that has skyrim sse installed to it. Guess you could just install it on a new dedicated SSD drive just for skyrim and your off to the races.
Haha, you are 100% correct: The limit for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim SE is 5GB, the limit for Fallout 4 is 2GB. (I'll lay off the skooma in the next video).
Regarding the storage space on pc, does it not just show your total storage capacity found on your hard drive? Because there is no way 500 gigabytes are used by the creation club content.
No its simply showing whatever Drive you have the game installed on, that is all. I have my steam folder on a 2.5 4TB Crucial MX500 drive it shows the correct drive usage amount and the amount of free space on the drive, people are looking into this a bit too far and much.
its pure corporate greed, they are killing the goose with the golden eggs, but besides that, i think i speak for many of your followers, when i say, we expect a full review of the east empire expansion next
You're probably going to be waiting 3 - 5 years for TES VI. It's coming after they finish up with Starfield. They still have DLC to do for Starfield. TES VI is in early development.
It's absurd to me, that Bethesda refuses to have one officially curated mod repository. Where every mod is free and users can donate to mod authors through Bethesda instead of through third-party methods. They can release a dumpster fire like Star field and make millions but still feel the need to do anti-consumerist shit like this.
Those third party methods let modders keep more of the money. If the rumor is true about Bethesda getting a 70% cut from mod purchases then that's just highway robbery.
AE was supposed to cover fans for all past and future MODs. How many more times will we pay for this game? I have already bought every edition on multiple platforms. This is getting old. Bethesda was my favorite developer not so much anymore. Hey, do they have a MOD that adds loading screens? I want to make Skyrim super awesome like Starfield... the game we never asked for.
You can also set the Special Edition to not update if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately some major projects that may or may not come out soon are not going to support LE.
Probably because people were never supposed to use SKSE. Why does it even get outdated this easily? Is there any real conflict? I think it is usually the only thing that breaks with updates.
@karpai5427 As a console peasant who can't use SKSE, this update is literally the first time my modlist has been broken by an update. And that's due to the UI changes conflicting with my UI mods. That's it.
For playstation the free mods have been capped at 40 different ones. It use to be 100 before the update. The paid creations do not take up a slot out of the 40 free ones allowed. It feels really terrible.
Honestly I'd have preferred a donation system. It likely would've made them a lot more money in the long term and wouldn't have turned their custumers further against them. I can think of other benefits to a donation system but I may not be able to think of every benefit so if others want to add to the list go right ahead.
I’m not defending Bethesda but if in 10 years someone buy the mod the creator will get they cut, donations are things that maybe gives them money in short term but maybe they never get money because how many people do you give donations? I think this is good for some mod creators but not good for us or for the majority of the modders
@@soyjoony Perhaps. But if people are willing to give money to the creator of a mod they like wouldn't they be willing to do so repeatedly if given the option? With the current system it's a one and done deal. One just buys the mod and that's it. With a donation system a person could have the option to support a favorite mod made by a verified creator every month or so.
@@libertariandragon9142 in my Skyrim build I have over 700 mods imagine trying to help every month every creator, again I’m not in favor I’m just don’t think this is the worst way to help modders
@@soyjoony Perhaps you're right. Perhaps not. We likely won't ever know for certain. I'll concede that you and others like you wouldn't use a hypothetical donation system. But that's understandable.
They already have proof that this creation system works. Microsoft has had it in place for Minecraft Bedrock ever since that game dropped. Donations for mods are already a thing, and unless you have some amazing work, you aren't going to make a living that way. Too many people won't donate. The minecraft marketplace is a viable career for modders, with the most popular ones have a large catalog of content that regularly sell.
Need further proof that Microsoft-Bethesda are so creatively bankrupt they have to go ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2011, and a 12 year-old game, to make up for the commercial and reputational disaster of Starfield, in 2023? Between this, MS-Bethesda gaslighting mixed and negative reviews for Starfield with AI bots; the universal absence of Starfield from GOTY talks (rightly so); THE ENTIRE buzz around Starfield disappearing just months after it launched (save for countless UA-camrs and games media clowning on the game for being mid), is just so sadly pathetic. Sorry Phil & Todd, I ain't paying for Skyrim mods (nor any Bethesda mods).
It defo has it's down sides. But if you look at Minecraft Bedrock, the same system is in place there and those modders have done pretty fun things and the marketplace is full of new content. You can still mod the game without paying but this will defo encourage the talented types to make more stuff. :) I"m pretty excited about it as a frequent minecraft mod purchaser.
This was a sad day for modding ( buggthesda titles anyway). The future looks bleack and everyone that defends this obvious cash grab is at fault for it. TES 6 will be released 20% of the game and the rest will be in microtransactions, ohhh wait they call them mods, silly me. Saying that modders can make money leggaly from mods is a weird thing to say, since they were already making money if they uploaded to nexus and more from patreon. Modding was supposed to be something you make for fun or a hobby, not a freaking job.
Why is no one talking about the decreased number of mods that you can download on consoles. Used to be 150. Now it’s only 100. Isn’t that half of what you were able to download at Launch in 2016?
13:30 What other games make customers to pay for community mods? Trying to think of any, can't. The value with these mods for a SINGLE PLAYER game is so little in my mind. Unless they are 5cents, no thanks.
You know, if they really would Appreciate the Community the devs would make new DLCs like dragonborn & dawnguard, and would have fixed MANY bugs since yesterday. Of course a handful of the creation club content is solid, but there are so much better & bigger mods that could be regonized by the devs for The creation club that Didn't.
Doesn’t work on the latest version of Skyrim, and rolling it back hasn’t worked for me either (using Steam Depot, automated roll back mod hasn’t been updated yet). Would you have any idea how I can get Nolvus working by chance?
The creation page needs some editing. A tab/page for the paid mods and another separate tab/page for the free ones. The UI at the moment is a bit sh*t, as well as confusing knowing what you have installed or not, but I'm liking the new business model where mod creators can turn their hobbies into careers. Like "Kinggath" , creator of Sim Settlements for Fallout 4, is doing as he's making his own game studio
LE is nowhere near as buggy or glitchy as greedy mod authors who no longer support it want to gaslight you into misremembering. If it was as terrible as all that, it would have never won all those Game of the Year awards back in 2011.
If this stuff were just more CC with trophies and chevos enabled, I’d happily buy some of it. But I just don’t really understand the point otherwise. Why pay when there’s better options for free? CC made sense because it improved the vanilla experience and let people platinum or 100% the game. This seems to work against itself, imho.
It would be really great if Bethesda could just let us have an alternate fork of their game so players can opt out of this paid mod revolution. Does anyone know if the GOG version of Skyrim is free of this BS or not?
You can set it so that your game does not update anymore both on Steam and GOG and there are ways to remove the updste and revert to thenold one. It is honestly advisable if you are modding from Nexus.
@@dinadanalcedines628 Rune time stability and preformance improvments are only a viable argument in a game that is not Skyrim and not run by Bethestha. And the pearson above asked specificly about Skyrim.
GOG update is planned, but there is no specific date yet. My guess is that they will update the GOG version to bring it on par with the Steam version (there are a bunch of fixes and optimizations made in the last update on Steam version), but keep the marketplace/Creation Credits out of it. Again, it's just my guess.
Ok, I can answer my own question now it seems. Quote from the GOG page for Skyrim: "Please note that the DRM-Free version of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Special Edition does not include the Creation Club feature. The entire Creation Club content (74 items) is included in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition" Lets go!! \(^_^)/
What do I think of this? Hmm… it’s a damn shame. I’m sick and tired of spending hundreds of hours modding my game over the years only to have them break it again and again. Your content is great but for now it’s time for me to take a break from playing Skyrim.
Its the equivalent of taking food to the cinema and the cinema charging you for it like it always belonged to them. Any modder onboard with them is a disgrace to the gaming community. You want money for your work? ask for employment.
didn’t love this update because I have zero want for paying for mostly inferior mods, but it was cool for them to work with the SKSE team. even with active authors, address library, and commonlib, the crux is the main dll ao having it drop on day 0 was awesome. still can’t update because I have 2k mods and many of them haven’t been updated but there was a definite cool move in all this chaos.
Unfortunately what these greedy company did was ruin my game permanently. The least they could have done out of all the cons of this decision was increase console modding space and even then, I still wouldn't pay for mods. Quality assurance team? LOL they can't even fix their own game! Someone please, make it make sense! My Skyrim days are over and I had thousands of hours which is 5 years worth of playing the game. The only thing that kept Skyrim good was free modding with passion. I cannot believe they did this 😂 Fk´ Bugthesda
Yes, but the new East Empire mod you're excited to try out costs $7 and will become even more expensive shortly. The game itself has sold for close to the same price (and is just slightly more expensive right now from key shops). It's ridiculous and all about monetization (for Bethesda)... especially when coupled with Patreon, subscriptions, and so many other money making avenues. Regarding the PIP boy paint example... Bethesda already sells things like this themselves(e.g., Fallout 76).
This kind of 3rd party dlc system is quite common in the simulator community. Games like farming simulator, DCS, Arma 3 and MSFS have this and it does work though even those games have their misses.
Worried this is going to kill nexus. When filling out Bethesda games with mods like I do, I wont be paying prices for each of the amount of mods I download not only for their additions but also for the fixes that Bethesda never do.
When Nexus went full woke and started banning mods and modders for things like removing pronouns on the character creation screen, I was done with Nexus the way I've been with Bethesda for a while (even before they shat out Starfield).
@@damiku-8866yeah it’s sickening, can’t trust Bethesda or nexus anymore for any good content. Censorship, and greed seem to be the driving force between both of them. Bethesda games and mods are in an atrocious space right now. Imagine being the wimpy loser who decided you aren’t allowed to have a mod that removed polarizing political ideology from a game that shouldn’t have it to begin with. And they call it “inclusivity” as if they are doing a good thing. Disgusting practice.
Thank you so much for the information. Another awesome video from ESO . The only thing I find slightly problematic is the background music. It’s rather loud and distracting. Otherwise, awesome work!!!
To correct myself on the mod limits on Console: It's 5GB for Skyrim and 2GB for Fallout 4. I would still like to see this improved for console players though (I'll lay off the Skooma in the next video). Edit: Yes PC has no limit, we bow to nooone!
I just want to say thank you Danny (ESO) you're really keeping us up-to-date and informed on the newest and coolest mods and information regarding bethesda's new stuff... Other than these updates on the updates of Skyrim... I do have to say I haven't really seen much in the way of new material from you other than starfield, and a few other games ... I'm hoping once you have everything in order will be able to see you play some of the new mods and things like that, my vote is for East empire expansion if that counts. I also wanted to add that I'm sure that the decision will fix the achievements problem and we will be able to use achievements along with some of these quest mods... I can understand not having achievements active if there are cheats enabled but for additional content and things like that it should still be active. Otherwise you'll have to make a new save and a new game without any mods.
Mod limit is not 5gb it is the size of your hard drive, I can send u a screen shot if you need, mine says 2.2 terabytes used and I have zero mods installed.
are you talking about MOD size, as in how big a mod can be? ok.
I'm not sure if this is about consoles or individual MOD size because my 6TB HD is my "limit" on PC.
Just subscribed. I use to watch your vids for years but was not logged in. Gn!
After fully watching the video i can confidently say that this company is not the same and that's for the worse.
a bit of a hater but I understand your concerns
Yup. This is just more Microsoft greed coming into play. They are not for the players, don’t let them ever confuse you.
@@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH I still think they're going to be the same as always but yeah I do understand that if concerns recently and Microsoft decisions
@@changsiah2 As soon as Todd leaves the studio, do you think it will still be the same? If you replace each part of the ship over time, is it still the same ship as it was? Bethesda lost its originality as soon as it made Fallout 76, and it lost its creativity when making Starfield. I dread to see what they make of TESVI, if I’m wrong and they do make it good, shame on me I suppose.
@@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH Bethesda on never lose falling from grace and for the most part
76 is doing good fine but yeah I can kind of see why people don't really like them nowadays are they still didn't get abandoned unlike most live service games these days
I'm in Starfield still pretty good despite its flaws
I'm sure the modding thing will mostly stay the same as despite some ups and down and aside from maybe Garry's mod (although I would say that once over filled with nextbot and lack of any other stuff) and Minecraft (still has some popularity but kind of died a little recently) I just feel like Bethesda kind of feels irreplaceable for multiple gaming to be honest and I'd rather not bring up my examples that is Rockstar or from software but not really community
I hopefully we get to a Todd's successor just in case
It's a long way but we'll wait and see 6
I don't think they are evil or greedy but yeah I do feel like
Hater
Maybe I do hope they were trying to bring back the fans a bit more but still
"No more BIG updates" Is what we expected after Anniversary Edition. Bethesda is just straight-up messing with us at this point.
They never said they wouldn't update, in-fact they said that they will have more updates in the future, if you actually bothered to pat attention to the anniversary announcement trailer
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 Yeah, the implication being "to fix bugs with the AE content". Who would assume they meant "To reintroduce paid mods and not actually patch major bugs?"
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206stfu before I really leak ur ip lol
They realized they have nothing to lose now that they aren't their own... but rather a puppet of Microsoft.
So - they might as well start cutting their feet off and try to pawn them off.
Nobody has any respect for Bethesda these days.
Wouldn't surprise me if in 5 years, this "company" has been shut down by MS
that is the bugs they were talking about. it bugs them that they make no money off mods so they fixed that bug loool@@KiraSlith
I wonder how many of these new paid mods are just going to be folded into another Skyrim re-release, like the Anniversary Edition.
in the old system, modders that made creation club content got paid upfront. now that modders are getting %30 off of each sale I doubt Bethesda will be able to bundle them again. just my thoughts I could be wrong though.
None. They are not official Bethesda content.
Non since it not creation club content and isn’t added through patches, 2 they probably have a deal with the modder because they are getting no royalties that they won’t be adding theses mod to a rerererererealease game without permission, where as before they got paid ahead of time for the whole mod.
None because they are mods. Creation Club content is DLC.
Creations and Verified Creations are mods unless stated otherwise.
@@ryanroberts714 IMO that’s on the creator. They don’t have to take the deal. They can just keep posting them for free and depend on supporters. The mod author gets to set the price too. I don’t know but it seems like a win for both parties to me
I have been playing skyrim since its release and I am at the point now where if I have to constantly pay for mods, retextures,bug fixes, etc it's going to kill my love for the game
Nah you don't say that man. Repent now dovakkin.
@@johnnyhenderson7486 Krosis it feels wrong to even look at the game knowing that I will have to someday pay for mods beyn Daanik
It's only for creation club so you still have Nexus
@@vencent6206 unfortunately I'm playing on console
Why? I'm playing the 2000+ modlist Nolvus Ascension for free.
2:33 "professionally voiced" might technically be true...but yeesh, that was certainly a performance.
Jeez, It doesn't look like it was done by a professional. I saw a little part of it in the video and it looks like it was made by Ai. Ridiculous
2:33 sounded like an asian trying to pull a scotish accent. It was cringe. Cant imagine people paying for that sht.
Not the best voice acting for sure. But to be fair, remember the court wizard for Dragons Reach in Whiterun? That voice actor is actually part of the game and his voice acting is even worse.
Yeah, it doesn't sound any better than the voiced mods I avoid on the nexus.
I can't believe they broke all my mods over a paid marketplace
I'm going to miss this. I enjoyed modding more than playing. But Skyrim is like a pet. You can't leave it alone for too long because after a few weeks nothing works and honestly it's a little heartbreaking. VR was tough to mod and those mods were an accomplishment for me.
Tbh if they hadn’t JUST released anniversary edition I’d be more ok with this. Now I’m just waiting for them to bundle it all again in ANOTHER edition.
I don't think they're gonna bundle it, as the mods are third-party and not really owned by Bethesda. Could be wrong though. 🤷🏽♂️
@@nocomment2176 true. I didn’t think abt that tbh. It just feels scummy
@@nocomment2176honestly wouldn’t put it passed them anymore, people look passed them being an absolutely scummy company in terms of monetization, because Skyrim and fallout are generally beloved series. they’re horrible for it.
Nothing good came out of this before, and unfortunately, I don't think anything good will come out of it now. Makes me hesitate to purchase TES6. Long live Nexus and the huge modding community there. I wanna say thanks to the modders for adding so much content through Nexus over the years. Got me through hard times. Cheers 🍻
Well, it reinforced that ESO is a shill and got me one less sub to work through.
" I wanna say thanks to the modders" Until they want to get paid.
@@Tattletale-Delta Forcing payment for developing mods based on an engine created by others deserves criticism. If a PC modder requires SKSE, HDT, SMP, Parallax frameworks, bodyslide, mod organizer 2, a dressing mod...etc...then they should not require payment, as the mod frameworks that require their mod to work were free. If every mod dependeny that is currently being used on PC required a $5 payment then skyrim would be 10 years dead and none of the current modding scene would exist. People do not play vanilla skyrim in any large amounts to support the modding community that is now trying to get paid. They are not the best modders, they have not created the dependencies, designed the world changing mods that makes skyrim new. They are exploiters who are riding the coattails of the great modders of the past who did it for free and might at the most take donations today. Pay for play modders are scum because without all of the free mods and chivalrous modders out there they would have no audience. Now if they want to give 99% of their income to the modding community and take 1% then that would make sense.
@@alexwalters35pathetic shill
Don't kid yourselves; Nexus Mods would love nothing more than to completely monetize their site.
The greed of Bethesda is mind blowing, there's no end of shit they throwing at us
True, they should follow the pattern of other devs and release purely cosmetic items for $20+ each.😂
@@horridfuture3835 *_koffHorseArmorkoff_*
truuuu@@horridfuture3835
Don’t forget they started this
@@SubiKinubi horse armor op 😂
I can imagine a 15th anniversary edition with some of these new mods just like the previous one
They can’t because modders are getting royalties off the mods that are being sold.
@@Direwolf9818A revenue share of $0 is $0 lol.
This update shall remain there, i'm not breaking my modlist yet again for shit I don't even want.
So let's say over the next couple of years I only add 20 or so new MODs... that would mean we get to pay another $100 - $200 for the game? Awesome, I'm so excited. Please Bethesda, charge me harder.
Only if you're adding paid mods. The mods you already have installed are still free and will continue to be free. More free mods will continue to be made, alongside paid mods. I don't like this update, but some of you are complaining before even understanding this update actually works.
But the stupidity on their part is not expanding memory for console players. You can sell all you want, but if I don't have the extra room, there's no point in dropping the cash. And I'm going to choose free mods, especially quest/DLC size mods over other content.
As skilled as she is, Elinora's house mods are just too cut & paste compared to some of the gorgeous stuff I've seen (the mod with the Japanese garden is fantastic). It's gotta be fresh, different new quest content before I personally spend cash. I'd rather donate to casual modders.
Sorry these aren’t mods, they’re part of a ingame cash shop so they’re DLC. And these “modders” are no longer modders, they’re 3rd party contractors
lil bro really out here gatekeeping modders
@@chaserseven2886go waste your money on a 10 dollar small quest mod, when Dawnguard was only 20$.
Even Phantom Liberty was only 30$.
Shill
"They are mods in all but name guys!! It is certainly not mods!!"
Bethesda said it isn't official content and it disables achievements. Get over your desire to defend a billion dollar corporation, they are mods and that is it.
And that’s a problem why? Some these guys deserve to be paid, sorry your entitled ass can’t handle that
i don't think that person is defending a billion dollar corporation@@saalok
This going to kill their games life sooner rather than later. Like who the hell up in the corpo ladder thought of this nonsense? Expecting people to pay for mods is truly pathetic and exploitative.
The same kind of person who just exploded Unity and EA before that. That fucker wanted you to pay for bullets in FPS games and well the Unity thing is well known as it's still being talked about haha
im sorry but i highly doubt it'll kill their games life this would've already happened
@@chaserseven2886 It has already happened, Starfield is the prime example. Only hope for that game to be played for years was the FREE mods but now since they have found a way to profit off mods i doubt anyone is going to be payinh even MORE money to make that game interesting and fun. Its the developers job to make the base game fun and exciting so that playes can enjoy it for years and then modders take over and add new stuff, not leave it to the modders to make the game and profit off their work and make the customers pay. Its pathetic.
You realize only mod authors that apply for the creation program and upload that way are the paid mods? Any mod author who still wants to upload mods for free can do so.
@@horridfuture3835Bethesda modding community is full of entitled crybabies, like ESO pointed out Bethesda has been allowing free mods for so long that when they want people to start making career out of it the community has melt down, and guaranteed it’s only because Bethesda is getting part of the profit (it’s their game and their assets of course they are gonna get part of the profit)
Step 1: Hear about this and make sure Steam updates is disabled.
Step 2: Continue to enjoy the 2k+ modpack you downloaded previously.
Isn’t SKSE broken without updating?
Mine is still working. Don't know if doing it through wabbajack and mod organizer matters.
Step 3: Post about it in a youtube comment for some reason.
Too late, I'm already effed! Tried downgrading and now I can't re-load the creation club content from before the update, you know, the content I've already paid for? Effing swine.
@@Walawalacookiebecause it can be helpful information to someone you jagweed
I guess starfield really showed them that they can't create good content anymore, therefore they're trying to ask consumers to do the job for them
Sounds about right. If they put half as much time into making new games good as they do trying to monetize Skyrim maybe we'd get a decent product these days
Same shit different day lol
Bethesda can make goo games anymore, they have to milk a decade old game just to satiate their greed. With their credibility at an all time low, they go and do thus.
The gaming focus has changed from quality to pure profit. It seems to have infected everything, especially after Diablo Immortal. It opend the gate for outrageous monitization.
If we gamers keep buying the mods, no matter the cost, it will only get worse. Please quit buying DLC/mods. You are paying for things that should be present in the game.
They did this once years ago and it backfired completely.
I hope it backfires again or get ready for Elder Scrolls 6 to be ruined by MTX.
es6 will never get MTX@@Elazul2k
It was mostly millennials playing back then. Say what you will about them but they had the ability to see the damage being done to the community and the vast majority united against paid mods. 8 years later and its the zoomies with luke warm IQs playing this game now and grew up with games charging in game for luxuries so they are programmed to like the concept and a significant amount are defending paid mods. in 2015 therer was a large backlash, it was beautiful, in 2023 there is no unity now, just long time gamers wondering how the hell this next generation of kids playing Skyrim can be so eager to bend over so easily for Bethesda's gimmicks.
@@robr135The average Gen Z was 13 by their first attempt of paid mods through Steam and 15 when Creation Club came out. We weren't born in 2010 and we didn't learn about videogames in 2020 😂😂😂
I never thought I'd say this, TES being my absolute favorite game series of all time, but in all honesty, the way Bethesda seems to be going, I've about reached the point where I'm no longer at all interested in TES 6.
After years of patching it in, they finally added native ultrawide support. I tested it this morning and all the menus work as though you're using a standard resolution. The UI is scaled to match your screen and the character creator functions properly.
Which resolution?
Really because mine doesn't work and I have 2560 by 1080, but I will double check.(I was wrong it does support it now.
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I hope they do it for Fallout 4. Only game where Ultrawide gets my HUD completely fucked up. New Vegas and Skyrim worked somewhat fine.
Neat! Makes me want to get an ultra wide monitor now.
I have the feeling we're slowing watching an end of an era. Goodbye to mods made purely for passion; by people that love the game, and hello to something more corprate, like Minecraft's modding system or something.
You do realize Nexus mods still exists, right?
@@MrReaperofDeadyou do realize they didn't say "all of a sudden all mods are paid and people aren't going to make mods out of love anymore ever and all this is happening immediately" right?
it's what we've already seen happen to the gaming industry as a whole. As it generates more money, more executives get involved than creators. Things can get too popular for their own good. I think Bethesda is already on the edge of being the next EA with FO76 and now Starfield's release. If the Creation Kit is taking this long to roll out because they're figuring out how best to monetize it (which I fear) I think they're spelling their own doom.
People who can make a living doing what they are passionate about, are even more passionate. Food for thought.
@@Walawalacookie Depends, really. Release cadence will be mired in monetary gain and could drive qualitative falloff for many passion projects.
Think of it akin to UA-cam -- quantity is king.
I can't believe no one's talking about this Bethesda has actually found a way to monetize mods first it was the creation club now with this new creations system they have basically made it a micro transaction system for paid mods
They've been doing it for the better half of Skyrim's lifetime. IMO, I think that giving mod creators a revenue stream is good for creators.
@@jahnyguitah7999 modifying video games is a hobby, not a career. If they want a career, Wendy's is always hiring.
@@electricfootballhero1349 sure, it's principally a hobby, but we see tons and tons of beloved modders drop off when things get tight at home and it can be hard to support your hobby or find the will to keep going with it. Adding compensation just helps modders keep going.
@@jahnyguitah7999
I'm a modder when Bethesda releases these "updates" I always worry about the changes, because I know some of it can break mods or the requirements my mods use so I have to adjust just to get it working again, this happened before with their last update and it just happened now and it's turned me off from making more things with this game.
@@yesmlord9483 I get that, but at the same time, a game's gotta get updated now and then, whether it's due to porting or QOL changes or what have you. In this case, it was some looooong overdue bugs.
I'd be really interested in seeing your mods! Got a link?
When no one buys the paid mods and keep getting the free mods
They either gonna stop free mods, make a tighter leash on modders, or fix it
Oh, you can guarantee they'll go with "block free mods" for sure. Fixing things isn't a Bethesda thing.
they'll never do that they aren't take two@@UTubeHandlesSuck
This isn't a subject that needs a 'balanced' analysis, it's evil, it deliberately breaks existing mods and is entirely a middle finger the customers .. it's simply Todd who's whined for a decade that BSG 'lost out' on a revenue stream when they didn't monetize mods trying to persuade 'modern players' who've become used to being gouged my 'live service' crap.
cant wait to see my modlist breaking after every single update
Sims 4 says Hi.
As if I needed another reason never to purchase a Bethesda game again
You will be back.
Yeah never buying another Bethesda game again, they’ve shown their true colors.
@SorceressWitch you wish huh😂 not everyone has poor self control like you
I think that file size you were seeing was just showing how much disk space you have left on the drive where Skyrim is installed.
Yeah i was thinking the same
Thank you bethesda for letting me create content for you and tetting me have 30% of the profit when you sell it. Thats very generous of you to allow me to make you money by breathing new life into this game for you and allowing telling the fans youre actually supporting me instead of just finding new ways to use other peoples work to monetize your 10 plus years old single player adventure game.
30% is better than 0% though. Not great, but I imagine it's similar to Minecraft Bedrock's paid mod percentage and lots of the modders for that game do quite well in that program. A game as popular as Skyrim and Minecraft are a great place for this kind of platform because the mods will have a broad audience and since they aren't too expensive by DLC standards they'll likely sell pretty well.
What's funny (sad) is that just a couple days ago I started to strongly consider picking up and Xbox Series X on holiday discount so that I could get back into Skyrim with much better mod capability than I've had to deal with on my PS4 for ages. Now I'm not going to do that. Bethesda is a joke these days.
I was in your boat friend, I’m a PlayStation player, I was going to switch to Xbox a while ago to play with better mods on these games because of Sony’s moronic restrictions, but I decided to just build a PC instead, so much better of an investment, I recommend you do the same, I’m glad I never got an Xbox. Much better mods on Skyrim and Fallout 4 through Nexus.
I have a laptop that can run it quite well with everything short of like 4K texture pack mods but Skyrim deserves a big screen and I just don't have the space (or budget really) for the setup I really want right now. Hope to have it someday but these grocery bills are killin me 😅
I had been in the process of trying to set up my laptop so that it could display on my TV and I could play Skyrim via Steam Big Screen mode with a Switch Pro controller so I might give that another go.
Wait, what? The Paid Mods disable achievements? WTF?
"Lore-friendly guns." 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
If only they put more effort into their current and future projects instead of milking the past ones maybe they would have a greater standing
Danny my good mate, the storage limit is your Hard Drive space limit of your computer not the limit of mod storage. I know this since I've got a little bit over 26TB for my main gaming drive and it reflects that in the creations tab.
26TB? Bruh, what are you even doing with that much?
@@zerascarlet8733 Future proofing myself for more mods via Starfield and TESVI marketplaces
@@dinadanalcedines628 Well he also mentioned via pc plus I've even posted it in his livestream from yesterday and I even posted that it is pc. What I was referencing is starting at 11:47 and he is misjudging certain aspects of the pc side of things.
@@zerascarlet8733 it's his pr0n collection
this is the final nail in the coffin for es5
Didn't Bethesda make a clause in their TOS that any mods that are made for the Creation Club come under their ownership, or am I mixing them up with the Nexus?
I think it was any creation made with the creation kit is owned by zos(Bethesda's parent company), so an even wider net than just CC content. But i'm quoting from memory of a few years ago. It sounds shady but they have never enforced that clause of the agreement to my knowledge, its probably their to protect their IP.
All they would have to do is basically set it up so the game reserves more space for mods so instead of the 5 GBs they already reserve they could bump it up to 10 GBs or 15 GBs, this would also increase the amount of storage space the game takes up by a lot
I'm sure they will add to the creation shop for console players to buy more gig space but capped at 10 to 15 gigs. Don't be surprised when they finally release their Fallout 4 next gen update it will include the creation shop.
We will make you pay for skyrim over and over for over a decade, then got the fans to fix it without bugs and now they are charging for that too. Boycott mods this will destroy the mod community and it will never be the same
It will literally not affect anything
It won’t destroy the community, the community is over reacting, y’all claim they want yo support modders but when Bethesda makes it so y’all hate it, it’s only because Bethesda gets some money from them y’all have a problem with it
When they make you pay for anything? Additional content is optional, you don’t need it.
People can still make free mods, not sure how this is killing anything.
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Damn bro long time no see exciting to see you again. I’m back on Skyrim last time I really watched your videos was before 2014. I love it here
As far as PS owners not having certain content, I don't believe MS has anything to do with that even after buying Beth. It's all on Sony I believe.
Yeah three of these mods are unavailable for PS4
It’s all Sony, they don’t want anything conserved external assets allowed
@@Direwolf9818 that sucks The main three mods I wanted aren't available I got into the modding late so I wasn't able to get the gun mod
@@byronrush9802wait the gun mod is unavailable for us? Fuck dude
the re-release limits are upsetting, but i'm glad mod authors can more reliably be compensated for their work.
3:47 This aged like milk xD.
So the space available for mods displayed in creation club is actually how much space is left on YOUR hard dive/SSD that has skyrim sse installed to it. Guess you could just install it on a new dedicated SSD drive just for skyrim and your off to the races.
Haha, you are 100% correct: The limit for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim SE is 5GB, the limit for Fallout 4 is 2GB. (I'll lay off the skooma in the next video).
Regarding the storage space on pc, does it not just show your total storage capacity found on your hard drive? Because there is no way 500 gigabytes are used by the creation club content.
yeah he is tripping lmao
No its simply showing whatever Drive you have the game installed on, that is all. I have my steam folder on a 2.5 4TB Crucial MX500 drive it shows the correct drive usage amount and the amount of free space on the drive, people are looking into this a bit too far and much.
thank you for doing this Eso🙏🏻 feels good to see skyrim content again!
Biggest issue so far for me is the achievement thing, I didn't realize until too late with fo4 . Hope that corrects in some way
Corporate greed knows no end
its pure corporate greed, they are killing the goose with the golden eggs, but besides that,
i think i speak for many of your followers, when i say, we expect a full review of the east empire expansion next
Nah, I’m good. I’ll just stick to mods that are free and have been so for years.
BGS starts the paid mod era. Lots of other greedy dev studios will follow suit. THANKS TODD! What a joke of a company.
I just want a new Elder scrolls but now im worried
You're probably going to be waiting 3 - 5 years for TES VI. It's coming after they finish up with Starfield. They still have DLC to do for Starfield.
TES VI is in early development.
"PROFESIONALLY VOICED"
It's absurd to me, that Bethesda refuses to have one officially curated mod repository. Where every mod is free and users can donate to mod authors through Bethesda instead of through third-party methods. They can release a dumpster fire like Star field and make millions but still feel the need to do anti-consumerist shit like this.
I think something like twitch's bits system but for mods would be great for mod creators, Bethesda and consumers.
Those third party methods let modders keep more of the money. If the rumor is true about Bethesda getting a 70% cut from mod purchases then that's just highway robbery.
@@abstr4cted496 I don't know what kind of cut nexus mods take but you're absolutely correct that 70/30 is robbery.
I can remember when update meant something exciting. But now when I see Meta update whatever something I take a deep breath.
AE was supposed to cover fans for all past and future MODs. How many more times will we pay for this game? I have already bought every edition on multiple platforms. This is getting old. Bethesda was my favorite developer not so much anymore. Hey, do they have a MOD that adds loading screens? I want to make Skyrim super awesome like Starfield... the game we never asked for.
Thanks for the info. Good to see you playing skyrim again.
Just as a reminder. You could still use the Legendary Edition. Mods are still created for it and since it doesn't update it doesn't break your mods.
That's exactly what I'm doing.
You can also set the Special Edition to not update if I'm not mistaken. Unfortunately some major projects that may or may not come out soon are not going to support LE.
@@diewott1337
I know and I did that but if you really don't want to have anything to do with updates then you are safe with LE.
I feel like that fish in Spongebob who yells "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!!!"
Can we just pay todd 5 bucks a month to leave the game alone
“Professionally voiced” she sounds like an RP’ing 14 y/o girl.
You can’t even refund the mods?!?
How is Bethesda never able to push updated patches and content without breaking existing modlists????
Probably because people were never supposed to use SKSE.
Why does it even get outdated this easily?
Is there any real conflict?
I think it is usually the only thing that breaks with updates.
@karpai5427 As a console peasant who can't use SKSE, this update is literally the first time my modlist has been broken by an update. And that's due to the UI changes conflicting with my UI mods. That's it.
For playstation the free mods have been capped at 40 different ones. It use to be 100 before the update. The paid creations do not take up a slot out of the 40 free ones allowed. It feels really terrible.
Wtf no fucking way.
Really? It was 150 on Xbox but now there is no mod limit just the 5gb limit
Honestly I'd have preferred a donation system. It likely would've made them a lot more money in the long term and wouldn't have turned their custumers further against them.
I can think of other benefits to a donation system but I may not be able to think of every benefit so if others want to add to the list go right ahead.
I’m not defending Bethesda but if in 10 years someone buy the mod the creator will get they cut, donations are things that maybe gives them money in short term but maybe they never get money because how many people do you give donations? I think this is good for some mod creators but not good for us or for the majority of the modders
@@soyjoony
Perhaps. But if people are willing to give money to the creator of a mod they like wouldn't they be willing to do so repeatedly if given the option? With the current system it's a one and done deal. One just buys the mod and that's it. With a donation system a person could have the option to support a favorite mod made by a verified creator every month or so.
@@libertariandragon9142 in my Skyrim build I have over 700 mods imagine trying to help every month every creator, again I’m not in favor I’m just don’t think this is the worst way to help modders
@@soyjoony
Perhaps you're right. Perhaps not. We likely won't ever know for certain. I'll concede that you and others like you wouldn't use a hypothetical donation system. But that's understandable.
They already have proof that this creation system works. Microsoft has had it in place for Minecraft Bedrock ever since that game dropped. Donations for mods are already a thing, and unless you have some amazing work, you aren't going to make a living that way. Too many people won't donate. The minecraft marketplace is a viable career for modders, with the most popular ones have a large catalog of content that regularly sell.
Need further proof that Microsoft-Bethesda are so creatively bankrupt they have to go ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2011, and a 12 year-old game, to make up for the commercial and reputational disaster of Starfield, in 2023?
Between this, MS-Bethesda gaslighting mixed and negative reviews for Starfield with AI bots; the universal absence of Starfield from GOTY talks (rightly so); THE ENTIRE buzz around Starfield disappearing just months after it launched (save for countless UA-camrs and games media clowning on the game for being mid), is just so sadly pathetic.
Sorry Phil & Todd, I ain't paying for Skyrim mods (nor any Bethesda mods).
Go back further to fallout 76.
Bethesda be like “We can’t make good games anymore so we’ll start charging players who won’t leave Skyrim and FO4 for mods.”
I expected them to increase the space to install mods on series consoles. I'm very disappointed with this update.
Thanks for this info! as a modder i think its both bad and good! keep up the great work ESO! AWESOME STUFF
It defo has it's down sides. But if you look at Minecraft Bedrock, the same system is in place there and those modders have done pretty fun things and the marketplace is full of new content. You can still mod the game without paying but this will defo encourage the talented types to make more stuff. :) I"m pretty excited about it as a frequent minecraft mod purchaser.
This was a sad day for modding ( buggthesda titles anyway). The future looks bleack and everyone that defends this obvious cash grab is at fault for it.
TES 6 will be released 20% of the game and the rest will be in microtransactions, ohhh wait they call them mods, silly me.
Saying that modders can make money leggaly from mods is a weird thing to say, since they were already making money if they uploaded to nexus and more from patreon.
Modding was supposed to be something you make for fun or a hobby, not a freaking job.
Why is no one talking about the decreased number of mods that you can download on consoles. Used to be 150. Now it’s only 100. Isn’t that half of what you were able to download at Launch in 2016?
Not continuing after a dozen years. They broke me finally, and now I don't care if 6 ever comes out. Good job BGS.
13:30 What other games make customers to pay for community mods? Trying to think of any, can't.
The value with these mods for a SINGLE PLAYER game is so little in my mind. Unless they are 5cents, no thanks.
Added guns to the weapon list, but still no spears.
You know, if they really would Appreciate the Community the devs would make new DLCs like dragonborn & dawnguard, and would have fixed MANY bugs since yesterday. Of course a handful of the creation club content is solid, but there are so much better & bigger mods that could be regonized by the devs for The creation club that Didn't.
Got to love the lore friendly guns
@xhadebrinsbane5238is she the one with the Brooklyn accent?
Just play Nolvus Ascension if you are on PC. Has an installer. Is free. 2000+ mods and is updated regularly. It's like if Skyrim came out in 2023.
Doesn’t work on the latest version of Skyrim, and rolling it back hasn’t worked for me either (using Steam Depot, automated roll back mod hasn’t been updated yet). Would you have any idea how I can get Nolvus working by chance?
its not surprising though given their track reord with stuff like this lol
The creation page needs some editing. A tab/page for the paid mods and another separate tab/page for the free ones. The UI at the moment is a bit sh*t, as well as confusing knowing what you have installed or not, but I'm liking the new business model where mod creators can turn their hobbies into careers. Like "Kinggath" , creator of Sim Settlements for Fallout 4, is doing as he's making his own game studio
I never thought I'd be so tempted to just go back to the 32 bit engine version
LE is nowhere near as buggy or glitchy as greedy mod authors who no longer support it want to gaslight you into misremembering. If it was as terrible as all that, it would have never won all those Game of the Year awards back in 2011.
@electricfootballhero1349 it's more the 32 bit engine limitations I always had a issue with needing Enbboost and the like.
If this stuff were just more CC with trophies and chevos enabled, I’d happily buy some of it. But I just don’t really understand the point otherwise. Why pay when there’s better options for free? CC made sense because it improved the vanilla experience and let people platinum or 100% the game. This seems to work against itself, imho.
It would be really great if Bethesda could just let us have an alternate fork of their game so players can opt out of this paid mod revolution. Does anyone know if the GOG version of Skyrim is free of this BS or not?
You can set it so that your game does not update anymore both on Steam and GOG and there are ways to remove the updste and revert to thenold one. It is honestly advisable if you are modding from Nexus.
@@dinadanalcedines628 Rune time stability and preformance improvments are only a viable argument in a game that is not Skyrim and not run by Bethestha. And the pearson above asked specificly about Skyrim.
GOG update is planned, but there is no specific date yet.
My guess is that they will update the GOG version to bring it on par with the Steam version (there are a bunch of fixes and optimizations made in the last update on Steam version), but keep the marketplace/Creation Credits out of it.
Again, it's just my guess.
Ok, I can answer my own question now it seems. Quote from the GOG page for Skyrim:
"Please note that the DRM-Free version of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Special Edition does not include the Creation Club feature. The entire Creation Club content (74 items) is included in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Anniversary Edition"
Lets go!! \(^_^)/
Looking forward to seeing you showcasing all the other mods Danny! Keep it up brotha
What do I think of this? Hmm… it’s a damn shame. I’m sick and tired of spending hundreds of hours modding my game over the years only to have them break it again and again. Your content is great but for now it’s time for me to take a break from playing Skyrim.
Its the equivalent of taking food to the cinema and the cinema charging you for it like it always belonged to them. Any modder onboard with them is a disgrace to the gaming community. You want money for your work? ask for employment.
It’s bad to pay for mods. *end of review*
30 to 70% in Bethesda's is robbery!
didn’t love this update because I have zero want for paying for mostly inferior mods, but it was cool for them to work with the SKSE team. even with active authors, address library, and commonlib, the crux is the main dll ao having it drop on day 0 was awesome. still can’t update because I have 2k mods and many of them haven’t been updated but there was a definite cool move in all this chaos.
Unfortunately what these greedy company did was ruin my game permanently. The least they could have done out of all the cons of this decision was increase console modding space and even then, I still wouldn't pay for mods. Quality assurance team? LOL they can't even fix their own game! Someone please, make it make sense! My Skyrim days are over and I had thousands of hours which is 5 years worth of playing the game. The only thing that kept Skyrim good was free modding with passion. I cannot believe they did this 😂
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Yes, but the new East Empire mod you're excited to try out costs $7 and will become even more expensive shortly. The game itself has sold for close to the same price (and is just slightly more expensive right now from key shops). It's ridiculous and all about monetization (for Bethesda)... especially when coupled with Patreon, subscriptions, and so many other money making avenues. Regarding the PIP boy paint example... Bethesda already sells things like this themselves(e.g., Fallout 76).
why are you promoting this corporate garbage money grab.
This kind of 3rd party dlc system is quite common in the simulator community. Games like farming simulator, DCS, Arma 3 and MSFS have this and it does work though even those games have their misses.
I love how I bought the anniversary upgrade months ago and the new update is making me pay for the creation club content I already had again
I'm not against AI for random NPCs, but I never want to see it used for specific NPCs. For example, fine for "Whiterun Guard" but not Nazeem.
Worried this is going to kill nexus. When filling out Bethesda games with mods like I do, I wont be paying prices for each of the amount of mods I download not only for their additions but also for the fixes that Bethesda never do.
I feel like if anything it will make the nexus go even harder, the community overall doesn't want this, we want it forever free
When Nexus went full woke and started banning mods and modders for things like removing pronouns on the character creation screen, I was done with Nexus the way I've been with Bethesda for a while (even before they shat out Starfield).
@@damiku-8866yeah it’s sickening, can’t trust Bethesda or nexus anymore for any good content. Censorship, and greed seem to be the driving force between both of them. Bethesda games and mods are in an atrocious space right now. Imagine being the wimpy loser who decided you aren’t allowed to have a mod that removed polarizing political ideology from a game that shouldn’t have it to begin with. And they call it “inclusivity” as if they are doing a good thing. Disgusting practice.
If these mod authors think I'm paying for their mods that don't work or break the game half the time they're out of their minds.
Thank you so much for the information. Another awesome video from ESO . The only thing I find slightly problematic is the background music. It’s rather loud and distracting. Otherwise, awesome work!!!
We cannot disable creation club content either.
The "mod" limit is not a limit like you state in video. It is a storage limit and is is your hard drive space, mine says 2.2tb used and have zero mods
I've been watching you for years, idk why I'm just subbed