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  • @ethanhomeyer6513
    @ethanhomeyer6513 7 місяців тому +80

    As far as I’m aware the show wasn’t picked up my Amazon Prime until well after this pilot came out. It was an independent project. So, lack of funds. As far as I’m aware at least.

    • @Wouldyoukindly4545
      @Wouldyoukindly4545 7 місяців тому +5

      And obviously Prime would not let them use a show made for UA-cam on their platform so they essentially created another first episode with a backstory and everything.

    • @leodark_animations2084
      @leodark_animations2084 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Wouldyoukindly4545pretty much..the pilot is still Canon and gives more context however they made the first episode in a way that allow to Watch the series alone and gives the basic to understand more or less what Is going on..like It summaries the pilot in the first minutes of the first episodes with a couple of phrases..

    • @LuckDragonLair
      @LuckDragonLair 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@leodark_animations2084they said there are a few non-Canon things but the biggest parts for me that make this an important first watch are the angel dust and cherry bomb and Sir Pentis context but most importantly the Radio Demon showing up and explaining why he's joining and the name change, etc.. in the new first episode he's just... There... Which could be confusing and ignores just /HOW/ significant his joining is. Not to mention the whole I learned from my dad not to make deals with other demon concept which isn't stressed nearly as much on the Amazon one... Among quite a few others. :-) Even if they had done some kind of mini-sode or a series covering the info leading up it would have been great. Still amazing either way! :-)

    • @Zentron
      @Zentron 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@leodark_animations2084 episode one is set out in a way that it assumes you have already watched the pilot episode, but also laying it out so that anyone who hasn't watched the pilot, can simply come into the show as it is.

  • @ThanesTito
    @ThanesTito 7 місяців тому +71

    they do have races in Hell, since most of the characters in Hazbin Hotel are Sinners - aka former living humans - and Vaggie is hispanic

    • @vinnie666
      @vinnie666 7 місяців тому +8

      Yup, amongst the demons,iirc.... There's the imps, hellhounds, a jester race, the goats people call baphomets, loan sharks, the fish people from envy, and the birds- royalty of ars goetia. Think that's all of them..... So far at least.

    • @_iarna_
      @_iarna_ 7 місяців тому +6

      She was for the pilot, not sure that carries through to the show however because [spoilers], but she does still curse in spanish

    • @b_w_j
      @b_w_j 6 місяців тому

      @@_iarna_ Just depends on if its been confirmed if the exorcists used to be humans or are born in heaven.

  • @koopliss
    @koopliss 7 місяців тому +52

    "This is a high quality youtube video" Well now you guys have to watch Helluva Boss, a full entirely independent youtube animated series (that is safe to watch without having to do any bullshit copyright cutting...) that is ALSO set in the same universe as hazbin hotel and made by the same creator.

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 6 місяців тому +1

      Is Helluva Boss still cannon?

    • @koopliss
      @koopliss 6 місяців тому

      For some reason i can't directly reply to the person who replied to this comment, but i dunno what the hell you mean about "is helluva boss still canon", It's always been canon. Helluva boss exists in the same universe, its just Hazbin Hotel is ONLY in the pride ring of hell.

    • @Darth_Niki4
      @Darth_Niki4 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Dracobyte Aside from the different legal status and its pilot, HB is still in Hellaverse's canon.

  • @ikirbeeburgr
    @ikirbeeburgr 6 місяців тому +25

    The creator herself has confirmed the pilot is "soft canon". Basically the plot is canon, it takes place a week before episode 1. the part about it that isn't canon is there are visual changes, like character designs & the clocktower, and voices change.

  • @wendyheatherwood
    @wendyheatherwood 7 місяців тому +17

    I do think they should have included a version of this episode in the series, even if it would have been a retread of stuff a lot of the audience had already seen, and made the introduction of Adam into the second episode, but considering how few episodes they were given I can understand if the reason they didn't include it was because they were struggling to fit everything into such a short season.
    When Netflix picked up what was originally the second season of Bee and Puppycat they commissioned an additional three episodes to go at the start of the season covering most of the original UA-cam episodes, at least all the important story stuff anyway, which I think is the right way to go. You can't rely on the audience being familiar with episodes on a different platform for context.

    • @troikas3353
      @troikas3353 7 місяців тому +2

      the 6-10 episode "streaming" season is quickly becoming the bane of all these shows. That used to be the length of minisereies, not full length shows.

  • @Scarabswarm
    @Scarabswarm 7 місяців тому +15

    I love the over-the-top foley work on this. Like the sound of a train horn as Cherry Bomb dropkicks Ser Pentious, or the car alarm sound as Katie Killjoy's eyes pop open as she was drifting off. It really lends the silliness that offsets the dark humor.

  • @davidyoung6685
    @davidyoung6685 7 місяців тому +18

    “Cook for me, Jeffrey”
    Actually, you would be dinner if Old Jeffrey D. is cooking. 😂 (so many quick gags in this show)

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +7

    glad that the Pilot helped you feel that way about Hazbin Hotel, now once you finish the first season of Hazbin, maybe you'll check out Helluva Boss, it is a webseries done by the same creator as Hazbin in the same Hellverse, but with characters that as of yet have not had any mingling in Hazbin as of yet. i recommend it regardless just because it helps to fill out and expand the Hellverse more, and just because i like it more than Hazbin, but it's in the same vein as Hazbin so you may enjoy it more as well.

  • @chelliespider
    @chelliespider 7 місяців тому +11

    Regarding not understanding who Angel Dust is as a character... just wait for episode 4. It's an emotional roller-coaster, and the only episode rated 18+ (the rest are 16+)

  • @BernardoPC117
    @BernardoPC117 7 місяців тому +17

    4:28 I highly recommend watching that first song pausing constantly, there is so many hidden funny details in the animation that you will probably never notice unless you watch it frame by frame.
    And that has something to do with your comment that you liked the animation a better in the pilot than in episode 1, the amazon show is great, but this pilot took more than 2 years to animate, they took their time with every detail as a passion project probably not even expecting it to be profitable and it shows.

  • @jaxcraft2848
    @jaxcraft2848 7 місяців тому +20

    Yeah, Watching this pilot, you can see how dangerous Alastor actually is.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +5

    ultimately Charlie uses the word Redemption in place of Absolution, as she believes that rejecting sin and becoming a better person will Absolve them of their Sins, Redeem their souls and grant them access to Heaven. but as we saw when talking to Adam, he disbelieves this notion wholeheartedly. can Charlie's theory be proven right?
    Alistor: "Stay Tuned...."

  • @sarafontanini7051
    @sarafontanini7051 7 місяців тому +6

    I feel what's non canon are some broad details:
    -the voices obviously
    -the altered character designs (rip angel's tits :c )
    -some personalities are slightly tweaked (Vaggie is far less rage filled in the full show)
    -some story elements are different (there's an implication here that Lilith's plot points are diffeerent in this pilot compared to the show)

  • @Heronblade86
    @Heronblade86 7 місяців тому +6

    If you want more insight on Angel Dust, there is an official music video called Addict I thoroughly recommend. Make sure to pay attention to the details and catch the after credits.
    The crazy brilliant fools behind this project did this entire Pilot with an Indie studio on a small crowd funded budget. This masterpiece was the result. While I am glad A24 and amazon prime picked it up so it can go further, some of that brilliance was lost along the way.
    As others have probably mentioned, these same people were also behind another series entirely on youtube called helluva boss. Also definitely worth reacting to. It's the same universe, but instead of a redemption story it's more of a raunchy sitcom. Instead of sinners it focuses on hellborn demons, who are not subject to the exterminations and can visit parts of hell the sinners cannot.

  • @FrostyTheSnowPickle
    @FrostyTheSnowPickle 7 місяців тому +10

    13:23 As far as I know, everything about the pilot is canon aside from the voices of the characters.

    • @chelliespider
      @chelliespider 7 місяців тому +3

      And a little bit of the character design that got updated. Otherwise, all canon.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah it's considered a prologue to ep. 1

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 7 місяців тому +4

      And a few off-hand comments by characters... which I can't be more specific about without spoiling later episodes of the series.

    • @wendyheatherwood
      @wendyheatherwood 6 місяців тому +1

      There are a couple of character interactions in this that I don't think are entirely consistent with how the characters are depicted in the main series, but it's not any worse than the "early-installment weirdness" (thanks TV Tropes!) in a lot of other shows.

  • @user-zl6ps4rp9g
    @user-zl6ps4rp9g 6 місяців тому +10

    She called Lilith, then Alastor appears. Coincidence? I think not.

  • @DovahkiinMaster172
    @DovahkiinMaster172 7 місяців тому +7

    This video came out years before Amazon ever decided to pick it up.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +3

    it is said that Sinners (Humans that go to Hell) embody how they lived AND died, leaving the fanbase to believe that Sir Pentious (the Snake guy) was a Military man who cowardly fled from battle, which may or may not have contributed to his imminent demise, but that would also explain why he has a bunch of sentient egg henchmen.

  • @Rallionart
    @Rallionart 7 місяців тому +3

    I'm pretty sure that the main thing that changed for cannon are some details surrounding her parents.
    Won't say how it's different, leave that for you to find out.

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 7 місяців тому +1

      And one comment about another character... that also would spoil things if I was more specific...

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 6 місяців тому

      Also the clocktower and some character designs!

  • @gremalien
    @gremalien 7 місяців тому +3

    I think that Vivziepop created 2 series that were eventually suppose to crossover: Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss but Hazbin Hotel got picked up and now runs on Amazon Prime, which was 4 years ago. So Helluva Boss continues to come out with more episodes on UA-cam while its sister show continues with more money thrown at it, creating more popularity. Though both series might not ever crossover, both shows are in the same universe (Helliverse?) and shows signs of the others existence. But maybe they will crossover, who the Hell lol knows.
    Great reactions can’t wait for you both to see more!!

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +1

      nah, there's totally gonna be a crossover at some point, we just dunno how that's gonna fit narratively yet.

  • @vinnie666
    @vinnie666 7 місяців тому +11

    Oh, you're gonna love this show...
    Also, you know about helluva boss too, right?

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +4

      pretty sure that cherry will soon be popped.

  • @zibus8456
    @zibus8456 7 місяців тому +3

    If you want to check put another awesome UA-cam show, you should watch the Lackadaisy pilot! It has cats!

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk 7 місяців тому +3

    "Do they have races in hell?" Well, Sinners do, since they used to be human. And at least at the time of the pilot (several years before they even knew they'd get a full series picked up), Vaggie was canonically Salvadoran.

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому +1

      Sinners, Imps, Succubi, Hellhounds, Nobles (Greater Devils), Sins (Lords of Hell)

  • @McCammalot
    @McCammalot 7 місяців тому +2

    I may not be fully correct, but I believe that in order to land Amazon, they had to really shave down the number of episodes from something like 22 to EIGHT. (Please do not quote me.)

  • @ramonlrey99com
    @ramonlrey99com 6 місяців тому

    I really wish they kept some of the voices in this pilot. It just works wonderfully

  • @Z-one1000
    @Z-one1000 7 місяців тому +1

    Please upload the full unedited uncut video and reaction. This pilot is on the creator's UA-cam channel (she goes by Vivziepop) and she has given express permission to all reaction channels to show her UA-cam videos without cuts or edits (This also goes for her Helluva Boss series as well). Hope this helps.

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 6 місяців тому

    Btw, the demon that says "Wow, that was sh*t!" is Maxwell Atoms, the creator of The Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy.

  • @Luzarioth
    @Luzarioth 6 місяців тому

    "Stay tuned !"
    ....
    4 YEARS later... we finally got it :)

  • @johnniequinn3215
    @johnniequinn3215 7 місяців тому +6

    NonSpoiler. Angel is not necessarily im Hell because he was/is a Porn Star. Just as Charlie was Born in Hell, but that doesn't make her Evil.
    IMHO the animation and storytelling sti hold up even with some constraints from the studio.

    • @_iarna_
      @_iarna_ 7 місяців тому +1

      The old world building word-of-god on Angel is that he was a gangster in life, and the sex work was something that he didn't start till after ending up in hell. (Obviously all that world building is... uh... contingent on it seeming like a good idea to the writers of future seasons.)

  • @twist_ending7545
    @twist_ending7545 7 місяців тому +4

    Vivzie said that the events that occur in this pilot happen, but everything else isn't canon.

    • @lj45551
      @lj45551 6 місяців тому

      That’s confusing. Explain

    • @twist_ending7545
      @twist_ending7545 6 місяців тому

      @@lj45551 no it isn't-? How is it confusing?

    • @lj45551
      @lj45551 6 місяців тому

      @@twist_ending7545 so you give me an attitude and can’t explain it? Sounds like you don’t know

    • @twist_ending7545
      @twist_ending7545 6 місяців тому

      @@lj45551 ??? What attitude?? All I did was ask how it was confusing!

    • @lj45551
      @lj45551 6 місяців тому

      @@twist_ending7545 you are but it’s whatever.

  • @aranthur
    @aranthur 7 місяців тому

    In regards to canonicity, the general events are canon, but a bunch of small changes have been made to the character personalities/backstories/wordbuilding since then, so if a minor detail from the pilot contradicts one from the series, assume the series is correct

  • @rafaelgj3315
    @rafaelgj3315 7 місяців тому +1

    The series to a certain extent assumes that you come from the pilot and many details are explained there. The reason why they did not include the pilot in the Amazon series I imagine it was due to budget issues... they would have to animate the equivalent of two other chapters from 0 since the pilot lasts twice as long as a normal chapter, they would have to rerecord voices, etc. I suppose that doing so limited the rest of the season and they preferred to leave the pilot as it is since at the end of the day it is free to watch and it is there, at hand. There may also be some rights issue... perhaps Vizie preferred to keep control of the pilot so as not to give up the rights to the series and characters and not risk any legal tricks on the part of Amazon in the future or he simply wanted to take advantage of the feedback he received. He would bring the series to his personal channel, no one knows.

    • @gabrielforget6595
      @gabrielforget6595 7 місяців тому +1

      well it is not just that, some of the information is redundant, like Sir Pentious is introduce twice in the same fashion, and we would have 2 episodes devoted to 'Charlie want to promote the hotel'. Also, the information about Alastor come later in the series, but nearly the same way.

    • @rafaelgj3315
      @rafaelgj3315 7 місяців тому +1

      @@gabrielforget6595 Well yes, but even then direct references are made to the pilot, like Alastor has only been at the hotel for a week according to Vaggie and then Sir Pentious says to Alastor "we fought last week, we've faced each other like 20 times"... then they completely skip any attempt to re-introduce CherryBomb, etc... Like I say, they kind of assume that whoever watches the series has seen the pilot already, they shouldn't, but they do.

    • @_iarna_
      @_iarna_ 7 місяців тому

      I don't think it does. I've shown the series to a few people with the pilot as the capper (at the end) and no one felt the pilot delivered anything they didn't get from the show.

    • @gabrielforget6595
      @gabrielforget6595 7 місяців тому

      @@_iarna_ I watched the show not knowing it was from a UA-cam channel, only watched the pilot days after I finished the series and I understood fine

  • @bigreaderpike
    @bigreaderpike 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm only guessing here but I'm guessing they didn't put the pilot on Amazon because they would have had to pay more money to people as well as pay for the episode extra

    • @DanaOtken
      @DanaOtken 6 місяців тому

      Also, it would need to be redubbed at the very least (the primary - I won't say only - reason voices got redubbed was the need to hire union for "official" work); good odds it would need a censorship pass as well. I can understand why they'd prefer to just leave the project that took years of serious work to painstakingly create in its original form and not confuse people with another version.

  • @busy_raccooon
    @busy_raccooon 7 місяців тому

    i did the oposite mistake xD i just thought that the pilot is the first episode, so i just watched the second episode after pilot :D

  • @pinkiepiereincarnate2291
    @pinkiepiereincarnate2291 7 місяців тому

    I'm actually so happy you watched this next🥳

  • @oliviawilliams6204
    @oliviawilliams6204 7 місяців тому +2

    The only plot change i think i catched, is i think Charlie relationship with her dad was slightly changed

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 7 місяців тому

      some can say that it was changed, i feel that it was merely what Charlie thought until she reaches out to him later in the story.

    • @oliviawilliams6204
      @oliviawilliams6204 6 місяців тому +1

      @@UltimateGamerCC she seems to have found memories of him in the show, the song implies he’s her inspiration. I don’t really see how she could think he see her as a failure as the pilot implies

  • @Michael24570
    @Michael24570 6 місяців тому

    The pilot and the twin show helluva boss set in the same universe as hazbin hotel don’t need to be edited as they are already free on UA-cam although the actual Amazon show will need to be

  • @_iarna_
    @_iarna_ 7 місяців тому

    Ok, so while I don't think the pilot is necessary, perhaps if you're taking a foray into UA-cam, I'd encourage you to also try the Addict music video. (Personally, it's what actually sold me on the idea of Hazbin Hotel, when the pilot wasn't quite able to land it for me.)

  • @Ferdawoon
    @Ferdawoon 7 місяців тому +3

    "Jeffrey's Cooking Show" - Check the haircut on Jeffrey and compare it to Jeffrey Dahmer!
    It's a Cannibal cooking show, as Dahmer is known to have been a cannibal in life!

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 6 місяців тому

      No need to compare the haircut, Katie explicity calls it a "cannibal cooking segment" and the poster has "It's Dahm good!" on it.

  • @mckenzie.latham91
    @mckenzie.latham91 7 місяців тому

    This pilot is considered a prologue for epsiode 1 of the main show.

  • @LandonTheDM
    @LandonTheDM 7 місяців тому

    Huh, I had not heard anything about the "ish" nature of the pilot episode other than the changes in design and voice. As far as I heard it basically is canon and they have it separate because the creator has full rights over it and still encourages full unedited reactions (songs included) of the pilot (and her other show Helluva Boss)

  • @MeatSim9
    @MeatSim9 7 місяців тому

    You guys should totally watch Helluva Boss too. All on UA-cam, same creator, same universe. It's fucking great!

  • @deanthemachine8879
    @deanthemachine8879 7 місяців тому +1

    15:26 The Boys has the most views with 10.6 Billion minutes. How that translates to number of people viewing? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @snackeater4990
    @snackeater4990 7 місяців тому +1

    Not him calling Jeffery Dahmer hot 😭

  • @StodaGryph
    @StodaGryph 7 місяців тому

    Honestly, I'm not that into Hazbin Hotel, but very much dig Helluva Boss. I hope you'll do a watch of that sometime.

  • @Kamera_Ninja
    @Kamera_Ninja 7 місяців тому

    feeding the algo rhythm gawds!

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 6 місяців тому

    Better late than never! Love your reaction!

  • @mrsfahrenheit
    @mrsfahrenheit 6 місяців тому

    The pilot is very much canon. I feel like people often mistake the canon-ness with Vivienne's other show Helluva Boss (which is a UA-cam exclusive show of the same quality that takes place in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel which you reaaaally should watch after you finished Hazbin Hotel, just sayinnnnn😎).

  • @niccilefevre
    @niccilefevre 7 місяців тому

    I say all the time it's wild bs that amazon doesn't at least link to the pilot. It's like throwing people in the deep end.

  • @Excellor64
    @Excellor64 6 місяців тому

    As much as I enjoyed the full series, the Pilot just has a different kind of charm. I think one of the things that the Prime show is missing is the quick and witty retorts. In the Prime show, there is a pause for jokes and for punchlines that there isn't on the pilot. Again, I love the Prime show, but it definitely feels more cookie-cutter now.

  • @Luciphell
    @Luciphell 7 місяців тому

    This pilot is superior to all of the first season. While the show is a great adaptation, it does not live up to this pilot.
    Thanks for reacting to it!

  • @badgerdax1763
    @badgerdax1763 7 місяців тому

    Personally, I don't think the full Prime Show holds to the same charm that the youtube pilot does. Other than the stella voice cast, the whole thing as a whole loses that unique touch of crazy/fun sound effects/humour, which personally makes the story entertaining enough. If you wanted to view a show with the similar standards to this pilot, I would actually recommend Helluva Boss over Hazbin Hotel. It's the sister show set in the same universe, with more focus on Hell Life than the Sinners plotline (and honestly, it has even better animation overall). The Prime version really feels watered down overall, maybe youtube standards give them a lot more freedom to mess around.

  • @penguin50279
    @penguin50279 7 місяців тому +3

    spelled hazbin hotel wrong in the title :)

    • @NerdyNightly
      @NerdyNightly  7 місяців тому +7

      Lol my dyslexia strikes again!

  • @kw1254
    @kw1254 3 місяці тому

    The pilot is definitely ep 0.
    Still hoping they plan to make Nifty the series villain. She messes with people by pretending she just likes to clean and kill folks

  • @louvena
    @louvena 7 місяців тому

    Vaggie ❤
    Alastor ! ❤

  • @NitroOfficiel
    @NitroOfficiel 7 місяців тому

    Of what I know the only non-canon thing is that Nifty refers to Angel Dust as a woman, in the show thought it's pretty clear that it's a man.

    • @koopliss
      @koopliss 7 місяців тому +7

      That isn't a canon issue thing, It's a joke by how feminine-appearing angel dust's design is, Nifty *thought* he was a woman.

  • @niccilefevre
    @niccilefevre 7 місяців тому

    🙌🏻 ty 🥰

  • @egortomato1654
    @egortomato1654 7 місяців тому

    Спасибо за реакцию ❤❤❤

  • @MasterDEBATER-gp9de
    @MasterDEBATER-gp9de 6 місяців тому +1

    what a shitshov editing

  • @ApostateAIaddin
    @ApostateAIaddin Місяць тому

    meow

  • @Zikkar
    @Zikkar 6 місяців тому

    Meh this really isn’t needed for the show and I think it is better to not watch it honestly.

  • @mrsfahrenheit
    @mrsfahrenheit 6 місяців тому

    The pilot is very much canon. I feel like people often mistake the canon-ness with Vivienne's other show Helluva Boss (which is a UA-cam exclusive show of the same quality that takes place in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel which you reaaaally should watch after you finished Hazbin Hotel, just sayinnnnn😎).