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Making A Flat-Pack Plywood Side Table With My New X-Carve And Review
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2017
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// ABOUT THIS VIDEO
This was my first time using my X-Carve or routing anything on a CNC on my own. I found my way through, and it has me excited about the possibilities this is going to open up! In addition to going over my first project with the X-Carve, I also give my initial impressions of setting up the machine and familiarizing myself with Easel, the software the X-Carve runs off of.
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I only hope you don't stop doing just woodworking.. It's the soul of this channel! ;)
No need to fear. I have two videos coming out this month that involve zero CNC'ing :)
These are the videos I miss.
I've done quite a bit of CNC work, and it's always like that.
PRO: The machine does EXACTLY what you tell it to do.
CON: The machine does EXACTLY what you tell it do do.
haha...that about sums it up :)
Greg Thorne not always in the case of the x-carve. Sometimes that has a mind of its own.
Yep, like in computer programing "GIGO" Garbage in, Garbage out.... ^.^
@@montanamike53 Or like in IT fixits... PICNIC - Problem In Chair, Not In Computer
Salomone Hi, I would like to thank you for the work you do, every time I look at one of your videos, I find inspiration, the furniture you make are works of art. a thousand thanks and good luck.
Thanks for the kind words :)
I was one of the recipients of your gift card give away. Thanks You! Order a 750mm machine and I'm looking forward to incorporating into our workflow. I like the simplicity of the table.
Hey Chris...that's awesome! Between the gift card and all the deals they were running that weekend, you got a pretty good deal!
Thanks for the honest review and feedback. Looking forward to your future projects with it
Thanks Travis :)
Thank you for hosting the Inventables giveaway last week. My shipment came in very quick.
Awesome!
"Thanks, Chris."
Big fan, btw.
Appreciate it!
Very helpful and the table is great :) ॐ
Thanks Yogi :)
I’m glad you hopped right into the 3D modeling.
It's a fun change of pace
Very nice table Chris ! Can't wait to see what u come up with once u get Better acquainted with the software and cnc.🍻
Man !!! X-carve rocks. Since I have my one I use it in nearly every project. Some you can see on my german channel. But it's all English.
Was nice to watch. Love your videos.
So cool. I love the look of this table. Good stuff.
Thanks Mitch
Here for meditation. You are an amazing maker!
As you get used to using dogbones. You learn that you can make them less visible pretty easy with just bumping them over so they are more centred between both edges. Good project and review. The new kit looks like a dream to assemble compared to the original. Nice video as always :)
I'm gonna have to look up a resource on that. I think I get it though. I'll play around with in next time.
Another epic video. Nice review and keep them coming.
Your assessment of the assembly process is spot on. I thought the directions got harder and harder to interpret the further I got into the build. Nothing too technically challenging, I just didn’t want to have to go back and remount something because the directions weren’t clear.
I think it's a repeating theme. I guess the old machine had video...I think this one could benefit from that as well.
Another plus is the Inventables forum. Many people on there with many hours of seat time that are really good about helping you out.
Thanks John...definitely referred to some posts there a few times already :)
Awesome stuff!!!.....i love this channel!!!😊😊😊😊
Thanks Trevor
Nice, man! I dig that it is a table specifically designed to be made with a CNC. I go back and forth with my opinion on them, but I can get behind this, for sure.
Thanks Shaun :)
Nice project and lots of great info. Hilarious ending!
Thanks Jonny :)
Chris Salomone your sense of humour is a great part of the podcast and it’s nice to see it in your vids too.
Thanks Jonny....hard to find natural spots to interject humor into both, but I try to find little moments.
To be honest I wasn't following your channel as much as I used to, but this video change the game, I'm really happy to see that you're using digital technologies in your work (besides sketchUp). It got me really exited as well, I'm really curious to see what you're going to design next using your little CNC, I'm sure it will be really good! Cheers and nice work!
Thanks Bazzo...I'm curious to see what I'll come up with too...
Very nice! Its good to see your first project after hearing about it on the podcast. I hope that the purist wood workers have some understanding about dipping your toe into something new. Its great see projects like this and the bent lamination and the evolution that keeps happening. Keep doing it, but as always... no pressure.
Thanks Kyle....good points, and excellent use of my "no pressure" line :)
Good review, Chris! I really like the flat-pack table.
Thanks Bruce...appreciate it!
Very nice video.thank you
Dude, I love your videos! I hope to be able to make videos like you one day! I plan on starting and recording my first video this weekend as well as plan everything out.
Thanks Joey,...very cool. Hope it is going well so far :)
great video love your ideas
Thanks for the clear description and I like your style - entertaining as well as informative.. I have an older X-Carve and it was a kit but, as you said the instructions were good. I did have the same issues with SKUs but not too much of a problem. I don't agree about Easel though. Free is good but I just could not get on with it and made lots of errors with it. I bought Vectric's V-Carve and that suits the way I work - but it isn't cheap. Thanks again and sorry for being long winded :-)
Fair enough. I wonder if Easel has changed since you last used it. I'm pretty handy in illustrator, and I have a plugin for sketchup that let's you convert sketchup files to .SVG. Between those two, I can pretty much just open the file in Easel. Pick the outline option, or fill - depending on what I'm doing. Set the depth...and it's good to go.
The modern builds reference at the beginning haha
A great design. Great explained, thank you! Greetings MrHandwerk :)
I don’t have a CNC. I have checked out easel though. I assume you have thought of this.. you should put this up on the website and sell the plans. It’s nice see you talking to the camera. I’ve always loved your glasses. I work for a glasses manufacturer so just a passion!
Thanks Brendan. I need to re-work the file a bit, and then I'll probably share it on Easel - for free though. Talking on Camera wasn't too bad...but I'll still try to avoid it mostly :)
*Good job*
Would you consider using something like this to make your own version of kit furniture? Fans of yours could possibly afford similar things to this table. Limited runs could be forms of extra income and support. But you would have to surrender time to dealing with that, not to mention packing and shipping. Just a thought. Things like finish could be left to the buyer.
Yes and no...I used to do this on my own and don't want to get back into it. But I'm working with a company to produce and sell some of my furniture and a price much cheaper than I could achieve on my own. So we'll see how it goes.
Chris Salomone That would be pretty cool.
looks good!
Thanks Sebastian :)
oh.... That is fun and pretty!
Very useful review of the build process. I think that's something most people don't think about, or at least realize how complicated the process is. How long did it take you to assemble yours? And if you were to help a friend build one of their own, do you think you'd be able to do it faster?
Hey Seth...it took me probably 30 hours, but a lot of the reason it was slow was b/c I did a lot of - an hour here, an hour there, in between other obligations. If you had larger chunks of time to dedicate to it, you could definitely do it much faster. If I were to build it again, I could do it way faster. Especially if it were right after I finished this one :)
Do you sell the plans where to buy and download design
Hello Chris I was wondering if you could share the Easel X-carve files with me. I am super inspired by your project and want to put some live edges on it for style. Huge fan and thank you.
Love that end table. Are you going to sell the files so we can print your designs and have some bad ass Chris Salomone furniture in our homes?
Hey Colin...I won't sell them, but I will put them on Easel for free :) This one though, I'd want to tweak a bit before sharing.
Look at you. Thanks!
Looks great, awesome idea to produce some bigger pieces with the CNC! Also +1 to your thoughts on the build, the instructions do get a little hard towards the end and my SKU numbers were off as well.
Good...so it wasn't just me being a dum dum :)
I did notice that their instructions with newer items (the dust collection, etc...) are extremely thorough. I think they just need to get back in there and tweak the actual X-Carve instructions a tiny bit. Again though...I do think they are generally on the happy side of instructions.
Yeh totally agree! Almost like each section was written by someone different. Love how you are using it though! Will any of these designs/workflows make their way into the furniture company builds you are working? Especially on the packing side of things?
I don't think so, other than that I might eventually use it to template out some parts for furniture pieces I design. With that company though, I come up with the aesthetics, and I engineer the pieces myself...but then they usually slightly re-engineer things based on their workflow and tool set ups, etc...
Does Easel ONLY work with the x-carve?? Or will it generate generic G-code that you can then use on another cnc router?? For instance, I like the easel software, but i want to run a different machine...will it work?
I don't know for sure - but I do know that when you initially calibrate your machine, it asks a series of questions and in the pulldown menu is an option for the Shapeoko. So I'm guessing it at least works with one other machine.
HA HA! Chris, i was waiting for the joke at the end. Well done. Also consider: At the end of your review, you say “the voice part of this recording has been overdubbed” while you are mouthing it in the video. Keep up the great work. Watched this video on my lunch break when do you clean up your saw dust?
haha...nice! About the sawdust. I try to collect as much of it as I can with my vacuums when it is being created. Other than that, before I finish a project, I vacuum everything, and then blow out the entire garage to make it as "undusty" as possible.
Move those dog bone holes inward, inline with your notch width. When assembled, they will be completely hidden.
wow...nice
I'm always impressed by your design sense; that's a nicely proportioned table. I'm curious if you've checked out the "Design for CNC" book recently released by Make: and what you thought of it.
Thanks Gordon...I haven't seen (or heard of) it. Sounds pretty interesting though. Maybe I'll ask Santa for a copy :)
Chris, I'm happy to send you a copy. Save your Santa list for the toys. I'll send you an email to your gmail address to find the best shipping address.
Nice to see you talking on camera! It's my hang up, id rather voice-over haha
It made sense for something like this...but for normal videos, I'll stick to VO :)
One guy puts his butt on a table....poor Dave :)
Nice one Chris, I have been thinking about a CNC and it’s nice to know what to expect. I love Lego so if it’s anything like that then I’m happy to build a CNC too.
Yeah...as long as you're not in a rush to get it done, it can be a mildly fun experience. It's about as close as you can come to foreplay in the woodworking world :)
CNC is somewhere between CAD and woodworking. CAM is really a skill on it's own. I've been doing it for about two years (I have an MPCNC) and I like it a lot. I do like working on the machine though.
Chris Salomone Haha, now you put it that way I have to buy one! :)
Jeff Eberl That’s another thing, I really have to work on my CAD skills before getting one of these.
Is teak wood expensive?
Can u build a desk with a similar style of this table ?
Yeah, I would think so...you'd probably want more bracing to keep it from wobbling though.
Check out opendesk. They have a lot of good open source CNC plans like these.
Where can i get the CAD file ?
Nice work. No problem to be in front of the camera.
Thanks man...it was alright to be in front of the camera, but I still try to avoid it when possible probably :)
interesting review. So after 1.5 years are you using this cnc more? anything to add based on your expereinces using it?
I definitely use it more now than I did initially. It's sort of become "another tool in the stable" where as before I tended to think of things as "regular projects" vs "CNC projects" lines are a bit more blurred now. I'll use it for one little thing here or there within the scope of a regular project.
So who turned the camera off??? Nice you are into CNC now, its a different story than traditional woodworking but since you already design in sketchup you'll have lots of fun :)
haha...me :)
Yeah, looking forward to experimenting with it more for sure :)
If you end up keeping the x carve I’d invest in V Carve Pro. I can’t stand easel.
Or use Autodesk Fusion 360 since it can generate g code for the x carve.
I'm definitely keeping it. So far Easel has worked well for me...but I'll keep those in mind should I run into issues.
siiiiickkkkk
Are you willing to share (or sell) the model file?
I intend to share it on easel - but I need to modify it a bit still
Chris Salomone that’s great Chris. I looked at Easel. It appears to only support 3 machines. Do you know if the file can be exported?.
how much clearance should I incorporate into my designs for joints like this? thx!
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by clearance. But if you're saying how tight should the gap be. You usually have to play with it. 3/4" typically will end up too loose since plywood is 23/32nds. It'll hold together, but it could have a little play. That said, if you end up gluing it together it'll be strong enough. Depending on the design.
@@Foureyes.Furniture right, so, do you make the gap exactly 23/32s?, or 23/32+e, how large should e be to fit together snuggly? thx!
Just got an xcarve. Chris, I'd love to make this piece. Or, one of your pieces. May I kindly ask, if it's not innapropriate, to possibly 'borrow' your svgs for this? Or, do you do any selling of these like some creators sell plans. Thank you ... Had to ask. I just thought it would be cool.
Thanks. unfortunately the file isn't in a "finished" enough state that I could give it out. It would need a lot of messing with to be something I'd put out there.
Chris Salomone, thanks for responding! And entertaining the ask. You and Boyd were influencers on getting the xcarve, just wanted to ask. Last legs woodwork has an awesome Boyd inspired project on his channel. Thanks again, much appreciated.
Is it just me or are you usually learning from reviews more about the reviewer than about the product reviewed?
Anyway keep it up :)
That's probably fair. I wouldn't really call this a review of the machine. More so a review of my experience so far. For a more true review, I'd want to hear it from somebody with some expertise in the area. And any of the technical bits can be easily looked up and compared.
I want to download Sketchup - however, my system is 32 bit . is there a software for me to download?
search for sketchup make and you can download...and they also have a browser based version now that you can use.
Chris Salomone what is the link
Nice. Im waiting for my x-carve to arrive 😀. Was this the first thing you cut? So many thing I want to do with it. I guess the 1st thing I will do Is carve my logo (if they make something idiot proof they will make a better idiot) ☺
My logo was the first thing I cut...just to make sure everything was working :) This was the first thing I cut that was for an actual project :)
Are you trying to showcase the dogbones? I understand they're inevitable, but if you tweak your toolpath, you can hide them.
I wouldn't say showcase, but definitely not making any attempts to hide them. How would you hide them? Maybe make a subtle arc that kisses the outside of the circle portions...so that it isn't as visually abrupt?
Create a "T-bone" shape, where the radii are covered by the shoulder of the tenon. I'd create a reply video if I could, but I don't have any recording software. I do have Sketchup, though. Is there a way I could send you an illustration? Maybe Facebook?
Holds more dodo than smaller ones
How times have changed, I didn’t hear you mention a specific price other than “a hobbiest… not gonna have to spend multiple thousands of dollars to even get your foot in the door”, the cheapest model is now $2600 and for some reason the advertised “1000mm” only gets you 29.5 inches of cutting area which you don’t find out unless you view the separate page comparing it to the Pro model, possibly because the list of resources with the FAQ is an image instead of an actual list of clickable resources which makes the quality of the product suspect if they can’t get their own sales page to work properly, not to mention the fact that the first google link to them after a search leads to a non-existent page so just a 404 error. All this means I wouldn’t spend a dime on their product because it’s incredibly important for a seller to take the time to make sure their website works properly and that their top ranked google result actually leads to an existing page.
It sounds like the authors / editors of the x-carve documentation got tired / bored as they went along, and wrote less and less as they got further into the assembly process.
yeah. I thought the same thing. Fatigue was setting in :)
Seems like that may have been part of it. Also, they’ve made many changes and upgrades and haven’t kept up the changes on their instructions, so they got thinned out rather than redone.
It's funny, I noticed that when I built my X-carve 2 years ago; the calibration step was probably the most bare-bones in terms of details, but also one of the most important!
You make me sleepy dude!
Take me with 2 cups of coffee :)
cnc -.- why?
Something new to work into the repertoire.
Chris Salomone it is pity
Would you be willing to share your project on easel?
Yeah...I will. I'd want to re-work the files slightly first though :)
Okay, thanks! I don't want to create work for you though. Someone else commented asking if you'd sell the files. I would definitely pay for the files. Love the table and the video! Great job as always!
nah...I was planning on putting them up there eventually anyway :)
I second this. An SVG would be great. Also, if someone asks about a different thicknesses plywood (like 18mm vs. 3/4" vs 23/32") they can just scale every thing a little. So it's good to note with the files what thickness your ply is.
Title is total clickbait. Dude, you spend like a total of 4 minutes narrating a speeded up clip of your work. You then spend the rest of the video making an infomercial for X Carve. You should call the video what it ACTUALLY IS: A REVIEW of the X Carve CNC.
I just can't get past the idea that the software that is necessary to use such an expensive machine is "in the cloud". I know instructables says you can use any software, but if you spend time on their support pages, they basically don't support any other software.
You can use whatever software you want.
Can you be my best friend
Let's do it!
I know you can but now make it without the x carve. It will look better and have more value.
Basically every other project I’ve made is without the x-carve. Can’t I have just this one?
I guess, it just makes me think of Ikea furniture.
r u holding on to a calculator
haha...kind of. My phone, which has a calculator app...so technically you're right :)
Ok can someone please help me settle a debate between me and my friend.
He is claiming, that an average man (25 years old) with absolutely 0 woodworking experience can build a bare bones dining table that will not fail for 1 year, with daily use.
Things to consider:
1.) The table does not have to be aesthetically pleasing, just functional
2.) he has no access to outside information (youtube, books, family/peers, etc)
I 100% disagree and say the table will fail within that year.
We’d love your input lol. Thanks.
I think they could do it...just err on the side of over-engineering the hell out of it.
personally , I think that this build has no (SOUL) comparing it to your previous ones , l am a bit disappointed , sorry.
No need to be sorry. Just experimenting with new things. I'm sure you'll like some of the other videos I've got coming up.
Honestly. Stick to your normal builds. CNCs are expensive and not real woodworking. This is way below your skills. You’re more focused on the machine not the wood.
I'm gonna do both. If I had to guess, my content will remain primarily "normal" - just because I think it makes for more interesting videos.
Using a CNC is not 'doing'. You might be designing, but the CNC is doing the work.
SuperSayainJesus what? is it doing or not?
+Kopitarko Extrapolate a little, why don't ya?
What about following a template with a router? Is that "doing"? What about printing a page and following it with a band saw and power sanders? There are still a lot of woodworking that compliments CNC work. This project was mostly CNC, but I just made something that involved milling the lumber, using the CNC to do the shaping, then I ran then through the planer to get the right fit, added some scraping, sanding, gluing, finishing. So I didn't use my bandsaw, so what?
SuperSayainJesus using a fence on a table saw? Freehand it or it’s not woodworking. No wait, use a hand saw or it’s not woodworking.
+Brodie Riiighttt, because that's obviously the same thing...