I agree with most of what you said. If the DOE really wants to “grow their own”, they need to make it easier to get certified. Most of us are already working full time just to survive, as a long term substitute or in other positions. We don’t have time or energy to attend in person classes after a long day at work. Classes should be completely online, accelerated and FREE to Hawaii residents. Last time I checked it was $5,000 to take the certification course. I personally believe that teaching is a natural ability- you either have it or you don’t. I know certified teachers who are really not good at teaching, and I know subs who are creative and engaging teachers because they have a natural ability to relate with and communicate with students. So again, I think if they really want more teachers, the DOE should stop recruiting from the mainland and make an effort to help substitute teachers ( all have at least a bachelors degree- many have masters and a few have PhDs ) to get certified…for free.
#3 is the primary reason I don’t want to be a teacher. I don’t think parents are doing enough to raise respectful children. And if the kids is disrespectful, more than likely the parents are too.
This totally resonates with me. I have never been a k-12 teacher before. But teaching college students has spoiled me like what you said. Adults are way easier to teach than kids and teenagers. I had a student fail my anatomy and Physiology class. 4 years later I saw her and she told me she was graduating. She told me she wasn't able to get into the nursing program but she said that even though she failed my class I was the best teacher she's ever had. That really touched my heart. I think if it was a teen that I failed they would probably blame it all on me. And yes the parents... I've trained a lot of athletes when I had my brick and mortar gym. And many times parents have this very unrealistic expectation of what the trainer can do for their kids. You can lead a horse to water but can't force it to drink. And unfortunately in school and elsewhere people like to really point fingers at the education and the educators. Sometimes some kids just don't want to learn at the current stage of their lives and that's the realities of it. Everyone is growing at their own pace and once they realize that, life becomes so much better. Great video as always.
Mahalo for sharing your experience. I think it's awesome that that former student praised you even if you failed her. And it makes me appreciate my teachers and my son's future teachers even more.
I’m a teacher here in California, and I would love move home to teach in Hawaii if I wouldn’t lose half my pay. I don’t understand how teachers survive financially on that. Here in California, we have a program for beginning teachers where they are assigned a mentor teacher (BTSA Program). The mentor teacher gets a stipend-around $1200 a year. My mentor was so helpful when I was a newbie. I had just moved to a small conservative town in California and it was a tough transition. Yes-parents are the hardest part of teaching. Thank you for the video!
@@edwardpileggi7327 unions fight for teachers here in california. Depending on your district, you get a raise every year or every other year. They want people to survive.
My daughter was a math teacher for 5 years in Miami and San Jose, CA who shared living accommodations with other teachers. She went to grad school and is now a data scientist earning 2 1/2 the salary of a teacher and who is now able to have her own apartment. Bottom line...low wages, long hours, low professional prestige, and politicized by the public. Who needs that? Since parents, politicians, and the public have become experts in education and tell educators what to do, they can teach own their kids.
Similar story here. My sister was a math teacher in Hawaii, now currently getting her master's in Data science. She loves math and calculus so it comes so naturally. And yes, the income/benefits will be much greater.
It wasnt the parents across the country that brought CRT into the schools. The highly politicized teachers unions did that. Imagine teaching children they are worthless because of the color of thrir skin. Its 2022, race is no longer an issue. I had a lot of great teachers. None of them ever told someone they wont be able to succeed.
@@sumnova6519 One advantage for having been a teacher is the ability to communicate, someone who can prepare and give presentation in a nerdy tech environtment. Her manager hired her for that reason and she did not disappoint him. So far she had one presentation and was well received by the audience. Teachers know how to get the point across, and this is one major advantage you will have when you start to look for a job. Best in your new career...
YES to all of this. I taught for 10 years and I honestly spent more time on admin work than I did lesson planning. At the end of the day, I was too exhausted and emotionally spent to enjoy time with my family. I also hated the pressure to "revise my grades," give test retakes and "push the kids through to the next level" to make my students grades and overall teacher rating better.
FYI, while we donʻt teach during summers and winters (except for those who teach summer school), we donʻt get free money. Every paycheck, some money is taken out in order to be distributed during the months when school is out. We have the option of holding that money so we get a slightly larger paycheck during the school year, but then we wouldnʻt get a paycheck during summer and winter. So the money we get when school is out is the money we actually earned during the school year.
A great review of the plight of teachers in Hawaii. I graduated from UH Hilo in 1985 and taught till 1989 in Puna and Hilo. I told the principals to give me the radical kids and I had a form of job security. Luckily the kids would see me playing music and surfing down at Kalapana… (the local beach area ) and they would give me a break …..I started working as a banquet waiter on the Kona side of the island and making unbelievable amounts of $$$$$$….I was making way more money being a waiter than a teacher!!!!
We talked about moving there from OR recently. Hearing this, it’s not an option. The demand for teachers had my very experienced wife ready to seriously consider it. But if they cannot pay masters degree teachers with 20 years experience over 100k in a place like Hawaii? What’s the point??!!
Thank u for sharing your honest feeling and idea. I used be a director of English private learning center. I totally understand about parents issue. At least, I could notice you are qualified for a wonderful Esl teacher.
How much have you spoken with teachers in Hawaii? You don’t talk about that. From what I’ve gathered by reading teachers stories on Reddit, the biggest issue is that kids come to the classroom with no discipline whatsoever. Not just a few, but many. It makes it impossible to create a good learning environment with so much disruption. So, the real issue starts at home with kids. They need their parents to make enough to spend time with them.
I also read some of those stories on Reddit. The teachers I've spoken with have different challenges ranging from discipline to lack of effort. And yes, I believe education starts at home.
Mahalo for this information braddah. I have wanted to be a teacher for many years. I never thought it as a possibility since I wasn't the model student when I was a kid. I have always wanted to help the kids in school who are like I was. Your so right lack of parenting is the problem. That was my problem as I was in the foster care system. Anyway, I finally attained my Bachelors degree (in a different subject matter) and have decided to vigorously pursue attaining my Masters in Education and become a certified teacher. No more letting my dreams rot away in the corner while I grind away on a job that doesn't give me any job satisfaction. Also, thank you for mentioning the Grow Your Own program this is the first time I heard of it.
UH College of Education does its best to generate lots of locals to be teachers in Hawaii. They work hard to get build up their graduates to become great educators for the next generation and I had many classmates that showed exceptional talent in motivating students. Having said that, why is Hawaii so short of teachers? Multitude of factors: Burn-out. As stated, there is a lot of paperwork, prep time, pay, dealing with students, administration and parents. If the middle-high school teacher has 6 classes and a lowest in seniority, they may have to prepare lesson plans for 4-6 possibly. That's quite a bit of material. Then there's administration paperwork, plus parents on students for academic and extra curricular work plus any extra program at the school. For a single young teacher, it could be time consuming, plus their own requirements for independent living and if lucky, a social life and that's not even talking about commuting to the school time. The pay is a factor considering its only during the school year, which I remember feeling like it was 8-9 of teaching with about a 2 1/2 month, so the teaching time is compressed. These days summer isn't as long and there are shorter breaks but still. Compared to trying to budget your pay and plan for continuing education compared to non-teachers, it is challenging when there is no significant other or if there is an other plus family. Unlike, other professions, I rarely remember my teachers taking leave middle of the day for medical appointments, leaving and returning back to school or having to take off because their spouse/child is ill. Support systems for young single teachers having to deal with problems like auto, medical emergencies can be tough. Sometimes, the little things adds up for burning out. We should say Mahalo for those who continue in the teaching profession, as be glad that they are still trying to make a difference in overwhelming challenges. They are a brave lot.
Thanks for mentioning burn out. I think a lot of people are feeling that, not just in the teaching profession. And I wish there was a way to address those struggles for those young teachers.
I agree with the pay. I was at the highest step and was getting paid in pretty good for my years of experience. However, I wouldn't have been at the Step if my colleague had not told me that once you start teaching get your Masters and do all the PD classes that you can to move to the last step quickly so you can earn as money as possible. Anyhow, I thought I was being paid pretty decently until I moved to the mainland. Your money goes a long way more than in Hawaii. In Hawaii, half your pay check alone goes to rent and other expenses. When I do those cost of living calculations, it says that I am making double of what I made in Hawaii. Yes, a lot of teachers do it because they love teaching, but I can say, personally, this year has been a very challenging year. I'll attribute it to the pandemic. Kids were home for almost a year... what are your thoughts on this?
Mahalo for sharing your experience. I think the pandemic really impacted the education in a negative way. It seemed like some of the schools weren't ready and that left parents scrambling. Hoping that things have stabilized. It's hard when students don't show up to class and the teachers have to prepare in-person and videoconference lessons.
Go Tigers,I was lucky since i went grad 2019 before everything went online. I wanna be a teacher there when I grow up. I don't care about the money cuz I'm gonna be single(possibly all my life),no car, just $1000 studio, and I'm all cherry
You need to add a segment on the disruptive technology called a "smartphone". I'm retiring at the end of June. I'm high school science teacher. It's reached the point I ignore the phones because we can't take them, students won't put them away, and parents think it's our job to manage to phones. Now I just inform parents their child is failing because of their phone. When the parent tells me "Take the phone", I tell them "That's your job". I now limit my responsibility to informing the parent the phone is destroying their child's education - putting the responsibility back on them.
Mahalo for teaching in Hawaii. Well deserved retirement, I'm sure. Sad to hear about the phones. Starts at home, which is why we're trying to limit our phone use now as an example for our son.
The issues in Hawaii are not much different from the issues of teachers in many places on the mainland. My husband taught for 31 years in Junior High in Oakland CA. He retired at around $38k He worked for a decade as a sub in elementary school. I have 2 credentials,but found teaching extremely difficult so I have been leading family singing groups in the Bay Area for almost 50 years. Teachers are given a thankless job with too many kids in a classroom, equipment that doesn't work, no support, all the things you refer to. Our kids are from many different cultures and many different language are spoken at home. There are countries where learning is encouraged, but the US doesn't seem to want to be among them. Teachers and some principals are doing the best they can. As a nation I feel we must honor educators and value education. Participating in Parent, Teacher, Student groups at your school is a good starting place.
I used to be a physics TA at UH & it was really hard.....The kids at Hawaii come from same socio-economic backgrounds and there was no problem. But the ones from the mainland were terrible.
You have summed it well as to why lot of people don’t want to be a teacher anymore, just not only in Hawaii, but it’s pretty much true in lot of other states as well. Since the cost of living is so high in Hawaii, the disincentives far out way the incentives. In my opinion, state of Hawaii should start offering some sweeteners to teachers, like affordable housing, better pay, and lastly but not the least, come up with creative ways to cut down the administrative load, you have touched upon all those factors and explained it well.
As a researcher myself, there are so many locally produced theses and dissertations (from UHM, a Carnegie-classified R1 university!); and research in general about teacher motivation and retention...but they are not being implemented by various stake holders (i.e., DOE).
Thank you for your comments. As a retired educator for over 30 years, I spent a rewarding career teaching mathematics, computer science and multimedia at numerous elementary and high schools; I was also a technology resource teacher for the Campbell Complex and a state computer education specialist. I also taught educational technology courses at the University of Hawaii Outreach College. I was an administrator but switched back to teaching because of my desire to be closer to the field over salary. The current salary scale is great compared to the early 1980s. I even worked at the cannery in the 70s at $2,10/hr. To become a great teacher is to be a guide on the side and not a sage on the stage like some university courses. A great teacher can inspire all students at all levels. The College of Education do offer mentoring with teachers. Good Teachers Are Strong Communicators. ... Good Teachers Listen Well. ... Good Teachers Focus on Collaboration. ... Good Teachers Are Adaptable. ... Good Teachers Are Engaging. ... Good Teachers Show Empathy. ... Good Teachers Have Patience. ... Good Teachers Value Real-World Learning. Your intro brought great memories since I student taught at McKinley High in 1983. Some of my students are retiring and I have made life long connections and enjoy seeing their growth throughout the years contributing to society. These connections are worth more than a high salary career. Mahalo
@@HelloFromHawaii Great to see you today and chat on education issues. Every generation has a new set of goals ...The illiterate of the 21st century,” Toffler wrote, “will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn.” I enjoy your channel and always await a new thought. Thank you
Aloha I am an elementary teacher at a public charter school. My experience is incredibly positive and the families at my school are super involved in their keiki’s education. Would love to talk story about unique schools in Hawaii outside of just the DOE schools 🤙🏽 I agree that it would be helpful for colleges to help prepare teachers for the “admin” work the profession involves. I graduated from UNC in Colorado and felt this program gave me lots of prep and confidence when entering the profession and staying in this career. 🐻 Thank you for your kind words to teachers in this unique state 🌺
Awesome that you graduated from UNC. And yes, the charter schools are definitely a different experience than regular public schools. I was able to see the difference when I student taught for a summer.
Teaching can be a thankless job as you laid out many of the negative aspects. And then relative to the high cost of living….. most professional occupation’s in Hawaii “under-pay”. Transplants initially take the “paradise bait” but quickly find out the financial reality drives them back home.
@@HelloFromHawaii I am switching from teaching full time as an elementary teacher to a substitute. The system is hard and I was burned out. I will give this a try and see how I do financially, but Hawaii housing costs are rising and it's getting harder to survive here. I hope that the education system can shift. Aloha!
My dad taught many years ago. I remember my dad staying up late at night to grade papers. He taught chemistry, physics and math. A lot of work goes into grading those subjects. At one small town school my father also coached football and taught too. The pay was way too little for my parents to raise 5 kids. My dad had learned carpentry skills from my grandfather. Eventually my father became a full time union carpenter which paid much better.
As a teacher from a different state considering the move to Hawaii, these pay rates are pretty bad, 53k with experience and a masters, that's less the 1st year teachers here with a bachelors. Its not as bad as some other states though where I've seen people getting 35k. We don't get summers off that's a myth, we get summers unemployed, and in most districts they expect you to come in on some of that unpaid time for Professional Development.
@@HelloFromHawaii even for people with just a bachelors its too low compared to the COL of the state. Its like they are trying to run their teachers out the door. My guess is they are banking on people wanting to live in Hawaii and moving over to fill those rolls only to leave and be replaced by another green horn. The kids won't get as good an education of course but when has our government ever cared about things like that.
My parents decided not to settle in Hawaii because they couldn’t be on one island. The State would place my parents on different islands. And that’s why I’m not a local. They went back to New Hampshire and it worked out really well.
My girlfriend was a teacher, but now she's now an administrator. Yeah, the stories she would tell me, teacher really don't get paid enough for what they do. I wish I knew how to make people realize how important teacher are for our future. Go Tigers!
As an educator in Hawaii I have to say you nailed it. In Hawaii we are more concerned about testing and students passing than having healthy expectations and giving ownership of development to parents. 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
I am a theater teacher and I do it because I enjoy seeing kids grow in the performing arts. I’m also grateful though that my husband isn’t a teacher and I can do something that I enjoy.
That's great. Mahalo for teaching the kids, even when it's tough. I'm not sure how those two teacher households do it. I would imagine a lot of grading papers at home.
I’m a teacher and I used to live in Hawaii I’m thinking about going back and teaching that’s why I’m looking for videos. I teach in California now. I do want to comment on the pay it’s very very low Hawaii cost a lot to live there I use to live on Kauai and that was before 2018. Also that is not salary for a year the contract is 11 months. I still work in June especially if I have to pack up and move classrooms which happens too much and I work through July doing training as a visual arts educator I don’t have to but I do. Because I create all my own curriculum and training is important to me. Then I work about two weeks before school starts on the schedule before I teach at 7 schools so yes I have about three full weeks off in the summer and I work a summer job because I don’t get paid enough to separate my pay out and get a check in July. The salary Schedule is so low in Hawaii so I disagree that it’s not too bad.
Common core is a huge issue for me! At 47 years old, it's very different and strange in comparison to my education specifically in elementary math. What are your thoughts?
@@miketexas4549 1 year later... lol. Well, ty for your reply. I agree. It's a methodology. Despite what a website has said. That it's not a methodology. BULLSHTT! If that were true, then a correct answer wouldn't be considered an incorrect answer. But it is considered incorrect because arriving at the correct answer must be done the way common core teaches. Which is an unbelievably inefficient way to come to a correct answer!! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A YEAR TO GET THIS OUT! LOL. Not as satisfying as I pictured it would be. Nevertheless.... Thank you!
Why does Administration get paid high versus the teachers? I think if the cut admin, that money can be paid towards teachers. Administrative cost should be reduced by a major restructuring of the system. Also, if there is a lot of staff in administration, then why do the teachers have to add those tasks onto their workload?
I homeschooled and taught middle and high school at coops fir a decade. And #3 is it! Discipline and respect start at home. I'm grateful the kids have a different kind of school with tech opportunities here. But yes it is not easy to teach and definitely not easy to let people learn accountability
Can you do an update on teachers in HI. I donʻt believe they are underpaid. Many that I know have a higher paid spouse paying all the bills or both are teachers doing well. Many I know take several vacations per year. Call in substitutes when needed and drive expensive ev’s or suv’s. Why would they need an increase in salary?
I guess I'll have to revisit this. I can't speak about the vacations they take or the cars they drive. However, I'd ask where they are in their career. Maybe they have more years and are at the highest pay levels?
I went to KCC and UH for Elementary Education……..tutored at Ala Wai Elementary for qualification for awhile. Teachers would ask me ‘why”? I made more money hand over fist with benefits at the hotels than I ever would teaching.
Millions go over seas to recruit teachers to hard to fill areas. We need to invest in teachers here but I found a lot of good teachers come from anywhere. Culture is a big thing to overcome. At home we need to hold our kids at a higher standard. We shouldn’t forget behavior behind academic achievement. We also must consider that parents here are trying to make ends meet in the high cost of living. Deregulate housing and start looking more towards tax benefits for Hawaii residents.
You bring up a good point about culture. It's probably hard for the mainland teachers to adjust to the culture and relate to their kids. But hopefully, after living in Hawaii for a while, they can build that connection to the community.
Teacher pay is an Interesting topic. We live in a capitalistic society where we elect our own leaders. If we wanted to pay teachers more we could elect leaders that cared about that agenda. I have certainly never heard of any voters caring enough about this to have politicians put this on their agenda to pay teachers more. That tells me that as a society we have decided That teachers are paid enough. I’ve heard of shortages of teachers before, but never to the point where we couldn’t have a school year. If it ever got to that then we would have no choice but to raise teachers pay. I think the reality here is Society has already decided teachers are paid enough Even though we don’t like to admit it. We can change it if we wanted to but we don’t.
@@HelloFromHawaii Seems to be a similar situation in every state. It’s a common phrase that teachers are underpaid, but few are ever willing to say let’s re-appropriate funds to actually give them a raise.
I went to McKinley High School too. What graduating class were you? There are a lot of bad teachers in Hawaii. I think it has to do with their stress with finances. I often feel that Hawaii teachers have a crummy day so they may take it out on their students.
I taught for 6 months after graduating from UH. I had a biology degree so not a teaching degree. My mom wanted me to become a dentist and not a teacher. So I did what she wanted. They are very underpaid for what they do. I would have loved to stay. It was a tough job.
Had some great teachers ✓ In Hawai'i. Some of the classes were downright all-out fun. Combo teacher & students making up the class. & The class was unusually great.
Investigate by asking teachers especially in poor areas like Pahoa, Hawaii, it's so sad, because there are so few attempts to find solutions! Also investigate charter schools, too! A great resource is Dr Ku Kahakulau, it is possible if dedicated educators would pull experience and resources together!
Oh you'll be surprised how turnover rate is so high for teachers we import from the mainland 😂. Check out the Hawaii's DOE reports for the statistics. Frankly, They just come for the experience and "paradise" until they see their bills. With regards to recruiting locally, it's hard because most local people know they can't survive on a teachers salary.
I've seen the turnover rate for mainland teachers. I wish I could see how they recruit these teachers. But then again, who doesn't want to teach in Hawaii? 😁
Teachers are great.I went to barbers point elementary and waianae intermediate. As a intellectual hapa I thrived in one and became a bullie to survive in the second. The system has failed in all areas including Hawaii. Walmart in kailua kona pays $36k a year for a stock person. Come on Hawaii step up.
Why don't you contact the state of Hawaii and advocate for teachers about their pay and what they can do to improve and get teachers to stay in Hawaii.
Teachers are funded by tax payer dollars, so it is all about where that tax money is going. Surely Hawai’i gets plenty of taxes from tourism. Where is that money going?
wen i was in the navy i had a chance to be station there but i turned it down because i knew the school system wasnt the best i graduated from waipahu high school plus i didnt want my kids speaking pidgin broken english
It should be all on the child whether they do well. Not credit to teacher or parent. The kids in Hawaii have lost some of their ability to dream. Limited job sectors. The telescope on big island could have been a boost to science education and jobs. Got to stay rocks. Maybe with COVID Hawaii will diversify its economy more. The cost of living is the problem and it’s fixable. The salary should be fine.
Oh McKinley da “oriental school” hahha… we stay in kalihi and I’m supposed to go to farrington but my dad send me there for a reason that I didn’t get till I got older 😂 we may have the same biology teacher mr.Trujillo who always picked on me coz I’m always high af on morning class 😂
Be careful, Some one might confuse you with a republican. I totally agree with you on almost all of your points my wife and i both were going to be teachers/coaches but neither of us were willing to get physically or verbally assaulted by parents and or children. Alll the world needs is personal Accountability. Take care of your self and your own its not the goverments job to raise your kids and the world would be a much better place.
Wholeheartedly and respectfully, I disagree completely with this analogy. You seem like your intention was genuine, but as a teacher myself who has worked my ass off and devoted my life to build up the future of our sad, pathetic world, your comparison of the accomplishments of our dedicated teachers, to those of our nannies- who are more often than not high school or college students trying to earn some extra cash by burping babies and changing diapers, is just shy of a slap in the face. But again, I’m sure your heart was in the right place, so thank you for recognizing the lack of funding and support allocated toward our field of profession. :’)
Please help shift our pay by $30,000 and if the contract was followed teachers would find financial stability much quicker. We have never had our annual step increases followed this century. It is in our contract but every negotiation they say there is no money so we get a step increase every other year.
Teachers are paid based on a 9 month year. That's divided by 12 so they get paid monthly installments. I don't know with private schools. And of course teachers don't get paid as high as administration because they're basically factory workers in a nursery. Too many people having kids all the while they're fully aware they won't be able to support them, but with the kids they get free house because they're an unemployed parent or low income. And since it's such a good thing, minus well keep popping them kids out (planned parenthood). That's where the money to pay teachers a higher pay is going. Btw, good thing public schools are there because they sure wouldn't want to be watching their own kids all day long. It would drive them nuts. Now they drive the teachers nuts. Sooner or later the kids gonna realize they're the actual breadwinners of the family. And for many, the underappreciated breadwinners. That's not totally responsible for any bad attitudes but it has a role. I'm guessing that in every classroom 5 of the kids are supported by the state. As opposed through taxes paid by the parents. At 8K per kid (education expense), that totals to 40K that would have been going to the teachers' pay if things were the way they should be.
Some schools actually have pretty high numbers of students that receive free or reduced-price lunch. Not the kids fault. Just a sign that it's tough to make it here.
Please accept reality. Japanese + Korean families = family expectations of academic success. Philippino + Samoan + Tongan + local kine riff raff = no family expectation of academic achievement. The second group drags everybody down. Don't sugarcoat the truth.
That is a pretty broad brush you are painting with. I know a lot of Filipinos that value education, homework and good work ethics. I worked here for decades as an RN and can say that the Filipino nurses were excellent and so were their kids.
@@Cherrysmith2809 Lol...why are "element" and "generalization" mutually exclusive.. you need to talk to some locals (privately)...b/c they believe this
Although there wasn't anyone who was walking near me, I wore my mask just in case someone walked by, out of respect. The sidewalks are pretty narrow in Hawaii. Just a courtesy thing. 🤙
Also, I really wanted to recognize and thank all of the teachers I've had in Hawaii and beyond. Couldn't have done it without them. 🤙
McKinley H.S. is often called "Little Tokyo".
I agree with most of what you said. If the DOE really wants to “grow their own”, they need to make it easier to get certified. Most of us are already working full time just to survive, as a long term substitute or in other positions. We don’t have time or energy to attend in person classes after a long day at work. Classes should be completely online, accelerated and FREE to Hawaii residents. Last time I checked it was $5,000 to take the certification course. I personally believe that teaching is a natural ability- you either have it or you don’t. I know certified teachers who are really not good at teaching, and I know subs who are creative and engaging teachers because they have a natural ability to relate with and communicate with students. So again, I think if they really want more teachers, the DOE should stop recruiting from the mainland and make an effort to help substitute teachers ( all have at least a bachelors degree- many have masters and a few have PhDs ) to get certified…for free.
#3 is the primary reason I don’t want to be a teacher. I don’t think parents are doing enough to raise respectful children. And if the kids is disrespectful, more than likely the parents are too.
It's tough, but part of the job. Major respect for all the teachers out there.
This totally resonates with me. I have never been a k-12 teacher before. But teaching college students has spoiled me like what you said. Adults are way easier to teach than kids and teenagers. I had a student fail my anatomy and Physiology class. 4 years later I saw her and she told me she was graduating. She told me she wasn't able to get into the nursing program but she said that even though she failed my class I was the best teacher she's ever had. That really touched my heart. I think if it was a teen that I failed they would probably blame it all on me. And yes the parents... I've trained a lot of athletes when I had my brick and mortar gym. And many times parents have this very unrealistic expectation of what the trainer can do for their kids. You can lead a horse to water but can't force it to drink. And unfortunately in school and elsewhere people like to really point fingers at the education and the educators. Sometimes some kids just don't want to learn at the current stage of their lives and that's the realities of it. Everyone is growing at their own pace and once they realize that, life becomes so much better. Great video as always.
Mahalo for sharing your experience. I think it's awesome that that former student praised you even if you failed her. And it makes me appreciate my teachers and my son's future teachers even more.
I’m a teacher here in California, and I would love move home to teach in Hawaii if I wouldn’t lose half my pay. I don’t understand how teachers survive financially on that. Here in California, we have a program for beginning teachers where they are assigned a mentor teacher (BTSA Program). The mentor teacher gets a stipend-around $1200 a year. My mentor was so helpful when I was a newbie. I had just moved to a small conservative town in California and it was a tough transition. Yes-parents are the hardest part of teaching. Thank you for the video!
I don't know how teachers make it. It's just tough. I think that's why they will have second jobs during breaks.
Teachers in California are making six figures while in Hawaii your lucky if you make 50k as a teacher and their is a higher cost of living in Hawaii.
@@edwardpileggi7327 unions fight for teachers here in california. Depending on your district, you get a raise every year or every other year. They want people to survive.
@@edwardpileggi7327amazing. They should make 100k or more.
My daughter was a math teacher for 5 years in Miami and San Jose, CA who shared living accommodations with other teachers. She went to grad school and is now a data scientist earning 2 1/2 the salary of a teacher and who is now able to have her own apartment. Bottom line...low wages, long hours, low professional prestige, and politicized by the public. Who needs that? Since parents, politicians, and the public have become experts in education and tell educators what to do, they can teach own their kids.
Glad she is earning a lot more. Hopefully she's enjoying the profession. Teaching is a tough job.
Similar story here. My sister was a math teacher in Hawaii, now currently getting her master's in Data science. She loves math and calculus so it comes so naturally. And yes, the income/benefits will be much greater.
It wasnt the parents across the country that brought CRT into the schools. The highly politicized teachers unions did that. Imagine teaching children they are worthless because of the color of thrir skin. Its 2022, race is no longer an issue. I had a lot of great teachers. None of them ever told someone they wont be able to succeed.
lol @ "prestige"
@@sumnova6519 One advantage for having been a teacher is the ability to communicate, someone who can prepare and give presentation in a nerdy tech environtment. Her manager hired her for that reason and she did not disappoint him. So far she had one presentation and was well received by the audience. Teachers know how to get the point across, and this is one major advantage you will have when you start to look for a job. Best in your new career...
YES to all of this. I taught for 10 years and I honestly spent more time on admin work than I did lesson planning. At the end of the day, I was too exhausted and emotionally spent to enjoy time with my family. I also hated the pressure to "revise my grades," give test retakes and "push the kids through to the next level" to make my students grades and overall teacher rating better.
Mahalo for sharing. Are you still teaching?
FYI, while we donʻt teach during summers and winters (except for those who teach summer school), we donʻt get free money. Every paycheck, some money is taken out in order to be distributed during the months when school is out. We have the option of holding that money so we get a slightly larger paycheck during the school year, but then we wouldnʻt get a paycheck during summer and winter. So the money we get when school is out is the money we actually earned during the school year.
Mahalo for clarifying. Do most teachers you know find other work during the summer break?
I've gotten in arguments with others on teachers' salaries. A lot still think teachers get 12x.
A great review of the plight of teachers in Hawaii. I graduated from UH Hilo in 1985 and taught till 1989 in Puna and Hilo. I told the principals to give me the radical kids and I had a form of job security. Luckily the kids would see me playing music and surfing down at Kalapana… (the local beach area ) and they would give me a break …..I started working as a banquet waiter on the Kona side of the island and making unbelievable amounts of $$$$$$….I was making way more money being a waiter than a teacher!!!!
My wife took a little over 50% pay cut as an elementary school teacher when we moved to Hawaii from California and worse working conditions.
Sorry to hear that. Does she enjoy teaching, though?
We talked about moving there from OR recently. Hearing this, it’s not an option. The demand for teachers had my very experienced wife ready to seriously consider it. But if they cannot pay masters degree teachers with 20 years experience over 100k in a place like Hawaii? What’s the point??!!
Thank u for sharing your honest feeling and idea. I used be a director of English private learning center. I totally understand about parents issue. At least, I could notice you are qualified for a wonderful Esl teacher.
Yeah, the parent issue is tough. I did have to deal with parents in my role as a summer fun instructor. That was enough for me to know it's tough.
How much have you spoken with teachers in Hawaii? You don’t talk about that. From what I’ve gathered by reading teachers stories on Reddit, the biggest issue is that kids come to the classroom with no discipline whatsoever. Not just a few, but many. It makes it impossible to create a good learning environment with so much disruption. So, the real issue starts at home with kids. They need their parents to make enough to spend time with them.
I also read some of those stories on Reddit. The teachers I've spoken with have different challenges ranging from discipline to lack of effort. And yes, I believe education starts at home.
Parents learning came from the same place where they're sending their kids.
Mahalo for this information braddah. I have wanted to be a teacher for many years. I never thought it as a possibility since I wasn't the model student when I was a kid. I have always wanted to help the kids in school who are like I was. Your so right lack of parenting is the problem. That was my problem as I was in the foster care system. Anyway, I finally attained my Bachelors degree (in a different subject matter) and have decided to vigorously pursue attaining my Masters in Education and become a certified teacher. No more letting my dreams rot away in the corner while I grind away on a job that doesn't give me any job satisfaction. Also, thank you for mentioning the Grow Your Own program this is the first time I heard of it.
UH College of Education does its best to generate lots of locals to be teachers in Hawaii. They work hard to get build up their graduates to become great educators for the next generation and I had many classmates that showed exceptional talent in motivating students. Having said that, why is Hawaii so short of teachers? Multitude of factors: Burn-out. As stated, there is a lot of paperwork, prep time, pay, dealing with students, administration and parents. If the middle-high school teacher has 6 classes and a lowest in seniority, they may have to prepare lesson plans for 4-6 possibly. That's quite a bit of material. Then there's administration paperwork, plus parents on students for academic and extra curricular work plus any extra program at the school. For a single young teacher, it could be time consuming, plus their own requirements for independent living and if lucky, a social life and that's not even talking about commuting to the school time. The pay is a factor considering its only during the school year, which I remember feeling like it was 8-9 of teaching with about a 2 1/2 month, so the teaching time is compressed. These days summer isn't as long and there are shorter breaks but still. Compared to trying to budget your pay and plan for continuing education compared to non-teachers, it is challenging when there is no significant other or if there is an other plus family. Unlike, other professions, I rarely remember my teachers taking leave middle of the day for medical appointments, leaving and returning back to school or having to take off because their spouse/child is ill. Support systems for young single teachers having to deal with problems like auto, medical emergencies can be tough. Sometimes, the little things adds up for burning out. We should say Mahalo for those who continue in the teaching profession, as be glad that they are still trying to make a difference in overwhelming challenges. They are a brave lot.
Thanks for mentioning burn out. I think a lot of people are feeling that, not just in the teaching profession. And I wish there was a way to address those struggles for those young teachers.
I agree with the pay. I was at the highest step and was getting paid in pretty good for my years of experience. However, I wouldn't have been at the Step if my colleague had not told me that once you start teaching get your Masters and do all the PD classes that you can to move to the last step quickly so you can earn as money as possible.
Anyhow, I thought I was being paid pretty decently until I moved to the mainland. Your money goes a long way more than in Hawaii. In Hawaii, half your pay check alone goes to rent and other expenses. When I do those cost of living calculations, it says that I am making double of what I made in Hawaii.
Yes, a lot of teachers do it because they love teaching, but I can say, personally, this year has been a very challenging year. I'll attribute it to the pandemic. Kids were home for almost a year... what are your thoughts on this?
Mahalo for sharing your experience. I think the pandemic really impacted the education in a negative way. It seemed like some of the schools weren't ready and that left parents scrambling. Hoping that things have stabilized. It's hard when students don't show up to class and the teachers have to prepare in-person and videoconference lessons.
Aloha Chris. As always I love your show and prospective on the subjects you talk on. I wanted to send you this support.
Appreciate that, Robert. 🤙
Go Tigers,I was lucky since i went grad 2019 before everything went online. I wanna be a teacher there when I grow up. I don't care about the money cuz I'm gonna be single(possibly all my life),no car, just $1000 studio, and I'm all cherry
Glad you want to be a teacher. We need more teachers in Hawaii. Go Tigers!
You need to add a segment on the disruptive technology called a "smartphone". I'm retiring at the end of June. I'm high school science teacher. It's reached the point I ignore the phones because we can't take them, students won't put them away, and parents think it's our job to manage to phones. Now I just inform parents their child is failing because of their phone. When the parent tells me "Take the phone", I tell them "That's your job". I now limit my responsibility to informing the parent the phone is destroying their child's education - putting the responsibility back on them.
Mahalo for teaching in Hawaii. Well deserved retirement, I'm sure. Sad to hear about the phones. Starts at home, which is why we're trying to limit our phone use now as an example for our son.
The issues in Hawaii are not much different from the issues of teachers in many places on the mainland. My husband taught for 31 years in Junior High in Oakland CA. He retired at around $38k
He worked for a decade as a sub in elementary school. I have 2 credentials,but found teaching extremely difficult so I have been leading family singing groups in the Bay Area for almost 50 years.
Teachers are given a thankless job with too many kids in a classroom, equipment that doesn't work, no support, all the things you refer to. Our kids are from many different cultures and many different language are spoken at home. There are countries where learning is encouraged, but the US doesn't seem to want to be among them. Teachers and some principals are doing the best
they can. As a nation I feel we must honor educators and value education. Participating in Parent, Teacher, Student groups at your school is a good starting place.
Mahalo for sharing. Agree that teachers have a thankless job.
I used to be a physics TA at UH & it was really hard.....The kids at Hawaii come from same socio-economic backgrounds and there was no problem. But the ones from the mainland were terrible.
Mahalo for sharing your experience at UH. 🤙
You have summed it well as to why lot of people don’t want to be a teacher anymore, just not only in Hawaii, but it’s pretty much true in lot of other states as well. Since the cost of living is so high in Hawaii, the disincentives far out way the incentives. In my opinion, state of Hawaii should start offering some sweeteners to teachers, like affordable housing, better pay, and lastly but not the least, come up with creative ways to cut down the administrative load, you have touched upon all those factors and explained it well.
Yes!!!
I like the idea about affordable housing. I believe they floated around the idea of a housing stipend. That would have been interesting.
As a researcher myself, there are so many locally produced theses and dissertations (from UHM, a Carnegie-classified R1 university!); and research in general about teacher motivation and retention...but they are not being implemented by various stake holders (i.e., DOE).
Loving the outdoor filming 100 thumbs up
Thanks. Yeah, it wasn't very good weather that day. 😆
Thank you for your comments.
As a retired educator for over 30 years, I spent a rewarding career teaching mathematics, computer science and multimedia at numerous elementary and high schools; I was also a technology resource teacher
for the Campbell Complex and a state computer education
specialist. I also taught educational technology courses at the University of Hawaii Outreach College.
I was an administrator but switched back to teaching because of my desire to be closer to the field over salary.
The current salary scale is great compared to the early 1980s. I even worked at the cannery in the 70s at $2,10/hr.
To become a great teacher is to be a guide on the side and not a sage on the stage like some university courses.
A great teacher can inspire all students at all levels. The College of Education do offer mentoring with teachers.
Good Teachers Are Strong Communicators. ...
Good Teachers Listen Well. ...
Good Teachers Focus on Collaboration. ...
Good Teachers Are Adaptable. ...
Good Teachers Are Engaging. ...
Good Teachers Show Empathy. ...
Good Teachers Have Patience. ...
Good Teachers Value Real-World Learning.
Your intro brought great memories since I student taught at McKinley High in 1983. Some of my students are retiring and I have made life long connections and enjoy seeing their growth throughout the years contributing to society. These connections are worth more than a high salary career.
Mahalo
Mahalo for the great insight. Great that you returned to the classroom after working in admin. And great list of qualities that good teachers have.
@@HelloFromHawaii Great to see you today and chat on education issues. Every generation has a new set of goals ...The illiterate of the 21st century,” Toffler wrote, “will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn.” I enjoy your channel and always await a new thought. Thank you
Aloha I am an elementary teacher at a public charter school. My experience is incredibly positive and the families at my school are super involved in their keiki’s education. Would love to talk story about unique schools in Hawaii outside of just the DOE schools 🤙🏽
I agree that it would be helpful for colleges to help prepare teachers for the “admin” work the profession involves. I graduated from UNC in Colorado and felt this program gave me lots of prep and confidence when entering the profession and staying in this career. 🐻
Thank you for your kind words to teachers in this unique state 🌺
Awesome that you graduated from UNC. And yes, the charter schools are definitely a different experience than regular public schools. I was able to see the difference when I student taught for a summer.
Hi Erin, I would love to talk to you about your experience! Please let me know if this is possible thanks!
Teaching can be a thankless job as you laid out many of the negative aspects.
And then relative to the high cost of living….. most professional occupation’s in Hawaii “under-pay”.
Transplants initially take the “paradise bait” but quickly find out the financial reality drives them back home.
It really is a thankless job. And hopefully more teachers stick around so we don't have this high turnover rate.
@@HelloFromHawaii I am switching from teaching full time as an elementary teacher to a substitute. The system is hard and I was burned out. I will give this a try and see how I do financially, but Hawaii housing costs are rising and it's getting harder to survive here. I hope that the education system can shift. Aloha!
My dad taught many years ago. I remember my dad staying up late at night to grade papers. He taught chemistry, physics and math. A lot of work goes into grading those subjects. At one small town school my father also coached football and taught too. The pay was way too little for my parents to raise 5 kids. My dad had learned carpentry skills from my grandfather. Eventually my father became a full time union carpenter which paid much better.
As a teacher from a different state considering the move to Hawaii, these pay rates are pretty bad, 53k with experience and a masters, that's less the 1st year teachers here with a bachelors. Its not as bad as some other states though where I've seen people getting 35k. We don't get summers off that's a myth, we get summers unemployed, and in most districts they expect you to come in on some of that unpaid time for Professional Development.
There are talks of raising pay for experienced teachers with more advanced degrees. It's a proposal going through the Legislature right now.
@@HelloFromHawaii even for people with just a bachelors its too low compared to the COL of the state. Its like they are trying to run their teachers out the door. My guess is they are banking on people wanting to live in Hawaii and moving over to fill those rolls only to leave and be replaced by another green horn. The kids won't get as good an education of course but when has our government ever cared about things like that.
My parents decided not to settle in Hawaii because they couldn’t be on one island. The State would place my parents on different islands. And that’s why I’m not a local.
They went back to New Hampshire and it worked out really well.
My girlfriend was a teacher, but now she's now an administrator. Yeah, the stories she would tell me, teacher really don't get paid enough for what they do. I wish I knew how to make people realize how important teacher are for our future. Go Tigers!
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nice message. I actually have been teaching at local university for +20 years here in California.
How has that been? Just teaching or research?
@@HelloFromHawaii both and I enjoy it.
As an educator in Hawaii I have to say you nailed it. In Hawaii we are more concerned about testing and students passing than having healthy expectations and giving ownership of development to parents. 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
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I am a theater teacher and I do it because I enjoy seeing kids grow in the performing arts. I’m also grateful though that my husband isn’t a teacher and I can do something that I enjoy.
That's great. Mahalo for teaching the kids, even when it's tough. I'm not sure how those two teacher households do it. I would imagine a lot of grading papers at home.
I’m a teacher and I used to live in Hawaii I’m thinking about going back and teaching that’s why I’m looking for videos. I teach in California now. I do want to comment on the pay it’s very very low Hawaii cost a lot to live there I use to live on Kauai and that was before 2018. Also that is not salary for a year the contract is 11 months. I still work in June especially if I have to pack up and move classrooms which happens too much and I work through July doing training as a visual arts educator I don’t have to but I do. Because I create all my own curriculum and training is important to me. Then I work about two weeks before school starts on the schedule before I teach at 7 schools so yes I have about three full weeks off in the summer and I work a summer job because I don’t get paid enough to separate my pay out and get a check in July. The salary Schedule is so low in Hawaii so I disagree that it’s not too bad.
Good channel brother! Appreciate the 'realism.' Hawaii isn't easy, but ... worth it!?!
Mahalo! So worth it.
Common core is a huge issue for me! At 47 years old, it's very different and strange in comparison to my education specifically in elementary math. What are your thoughts?
Common core is hot garbage
@@miketexas4549 1 year later... lol. Well, ty for your reply. I agree. It's a methodology. Despite what a website has said. That it's not a methodology. BULLSHTT! If that were true, then a correct answer wouldn't be considered an incorrect answer. But it is considered incorrect because arriving at the correct answer must be done the way common core teaches. Which is an unbelievably inefficient way to come to a correct answer!!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A YEAR TO GET THIS OUT! LOL.
Not as satisfying as I pictured it would be. Nevertheless....
Thank you!
I totally agree that teaching starts at home... especially manners
Why does Administration get paid high versus the teachers? I think if the cut admin, that money can be paid towards teachers. Administrative cost should be reduced by a major restructuring of the system. Also, if there is a lot of staff in administration, then why do the teachers have to add those tasks onto their workload?
I'm not sure. You have to ask the DOE.
ho brah da shirt is cool!
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I homeschooled and taught middle and high school at coops fir a decade. And #3 is it! Discipline and respect start at home. I'm grateful the kids have a different kind of school with tech opportunities here. But yes it is not easy to teach and definitely not easy to let people learn accountability
Mahalo for sharing your experiences. 🤙
I dream to teach in Hawaii. I just submitted my application today. Hope I would make it!
Good luck 🤙
Can you do an update on teachers in HI. I donʻt believe they are underpaid. Many that I know have a higher paid spouse paying all the bills or both are teachers doing well. Many I know take several vacations per year. Call in substitutes when needed and drive expensive ev’s or suv’s. Why would they need an increase in salary?
I guess I'll have to revisit this. I can't speak about the vacations they take or the cars they drive. However, I'd ask where they are in their career. Maybe they have more years and are at the highest pay levels?
I went to KCC and UH for Elementary Education……..tutored at Ala Wai Elementary for qualification for awhile. Teachers would ask me ‘why”? I made more money hand over fist with benefits at the hotels than I ever would teaching.
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I agree with your suggestions. Teachers need both internal and external support.
Millions go over seas to recruit teachers to hard to fill areas. We need to invest in teachers here but I found a lot of good teachers come from anywhere. Culture is a big thing to overcome. At home we need to hold our kids at a higher standard. We shouldn’t forget behavior behind academic achievement. We also must consider that parents here are trying to make ends meet in the high cost of living. Deregulate housing and start looking more towards tax benefits for Hawaii residents.
You bring up a good point about culture. It's probably hard for the mainland teachers to adjust to the culture and relate to their kids. But hopefully, after living in Hawaii for a while, they can build that connection to the community.
Ironic that the discussion about low pay for teachers was filmed in front of a Mazerati dealership.
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100% agree on this video coming from an 80's Hawai'i boy!
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Teacher pay is an Interesting topic. We live in a capitalistic society where we elect our own leaders. If we wanted to pay teachers more we could elect leaders that cared about that agenda. I have certainly never heard of any voters caring enough about this to have politicians put this on their agenda to pay teachers more. That tells me that as a society we have decided That teachers are paid enough. I’ve heard of shortages of teachers before, but never to the point where we couldn’t have a school year. If it ever got to that then we would have no choice but to raise teachers pay. I think the reality here is Society has already decided teachers are paid enough Even though we don’t like to admit it. We can change it if we wanted to but we don’t.
I know that they were thinking of increasing teacher pay last year with bonuses, but I don't think that ended up happening.
@@HelloFromHawaii Seems to be a similar situation in every state. It’s a common phrase that teachers are underpaid, but few are ever willing to say let’s re-appropriate funds to actually give them a raise.
U of H is always looking for good teachers Chris!!! 👍🤙
Thanks. I tried looking for positions, but only found part-time work.
I went to McKinley High School too. What graduating class were you?
There are a lot of bad teachers in Hawaii. I think it has to do with their stress with finances. I often feel that Hawaii teachers have a crummy day so they may take it out on their students.
I taught for 6 months after graduating from UH. I had a biology degree so not a teaching degree. My mom wanted me to become a dentist and not a teacher. So I did what she wanted. They are very underpaid for what they do. I would have loved to stay. It was a tough job.
Mahalo for sharing. At least you tried teaching for a while. And I'm sure dentistry is a great field.
Had some great teachers ✓
In Hawai'i.
Some of the classes were downright all-out fun.
Combo teacher & students making up the class.
& The class was unusually great.
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I miss and love those teachers, all of them even the coaches.
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Wow, as a returning college student and single mom, I would have failed your class. Not because of my work ethics, but because of attendance.
Oh, you teach college? what subject?
I used to teach Writing and Composition, as well as ESL.
@@HelloFromHawaii That's why you speak so well on video.
You're a teacher on here with 19,000 students.
Aaawww that is a nice comment. I agree he teaches us 🙂
😁🤙 Mahalo!
Investigate by asking teachers especially in poor areas like Pahoa, Hawaii, it's so sad, because there are so few attempts to find solutions! Also investigate charter schools, too! A great resource is Dr Ku Kahakulau, it is possible if dedicated educators would pull experience and resources together!
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Oh you'll be surprised how turnover rate is so high for teachers we import from the mainland 😂. Check out the Hawaii's DOE reports for the statistics. Frankly, They just come for the experience and "paradise" until they see their bills. With regards to recruiting locally, it's hard because most local people know they can't survive on a teachers salary.
I've seen the turnover rate for mainland teachers. I wish I could see how they recruit these teachers. But then again, who doesn't want to teach in Hawaii? 😁
Teachers are great.I went to barbers point elementary and waianae intermediate. As a intellectual hapa I thrived in one and became a bullie to survive in the second. The system has failed in all areas including Hawaii. Walmart in kailua kona pays $36k a year for a stock person. Come on Hawaii step up.
Westside schools? Must have been an interesting experience out there.
Spot on with #3
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Why don't you contact the state of Hawaii and advocate for teachers about their pay and what they can do to improve and get teachers to stay in Hawaii.
That's a good idea. The teacher's union does a good job of advocating for teachers, although one more voice is support wouldn't hurt.
Teachers are funded by tax payer dollars, so it is all about where that tax money is going. Surely Hawai’i gets plenty of taxes from tourism. Where is that money going?
That money is typically distributed to services. I believe education gets the largest allocation each year.
wen i was in the navy i had a chance to be station there but i turned it down because i knew the school system wasnt the best i graduated from waipahu high school plus i didnt want my kids speaking pidgin broken english
DUH Management in any industry always gets paid more.
It should be all on the child whether they do well. Not credit to teacher or parent. The kids in Hawaii have lost some of their ability to dream. Limited job sectors. The telescope on big island could have been a boost to science education and jobs. Got to stay rocks. Maybe with COVID Hawaii will diversify its economy more. The cost of living is the problem and it’s fixable. The salary should be fine.
Oh McKinley da “oriental school” hahha… we stay in kalihi and I’m supposed to go to farrington but my dad send me there for a reason that I didn’t get till I got older 😂 we may have the same biology teacher mr.Trujillo who always picked on me coz I’m always high af on morning class 😂
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McKinley High-- nice! My aunts, uncles and mother all went there back in the '50s, and lived on Rycroft and Piikoi. Aloha and great videos!
Oh wow! Go Tigers! 🤙
Be careful, Some one might confuse you with a republican. I totally agree with you on almost all of your points my wife and i both were going to be teachers/coaches but neither of us were willing to get physically or verbally assaulted by parents and or children. Alll the world needs is personal Accountability. Take care of your self and your own its not the goverments job to raise your kids and the world would be a much better place.
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The healthcare in retirement for teachers in public school is really good.
That's true. State workers, dat's why! 😆
While its true that they dont get the best pay, but my sister in law and my cousin, both retired in their 50's.
That's great. Relatively early retirement.
Where, though?
My daughter teaches 5th grade and yes it’s a sacrifice.
waiver and sacrifice to be a teacher in Hawaii. bottom line is to learn to survive for teacher and student.
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I'm a teacher. These problems aren't exclusive to Hawaii. Hawaii is apparently no different than any other state.
It’s even worse. The cost to live there makes it even worse.
Washington saimin!!!!! Eh your mcd food not all cold by the end of your video?
It was a little cold, but then again, I was in the rain.
hmmmm
So then,
... When are you going to teach...
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Being a teacher...in Hawai'i..
Being one..?....
Omg the teacher might gonna have no fun den da students☝️!😁
Teachers are like nannies , doing extremely important work but getting way under paid
Yes, very important work: teaching the keiki.
Wholeheartedly and respectfully, I disagree completely with this analogy. You seem like your intention was genuine, but as a teacher myself who has worked my ass off and devoted my life to build up the future of our sad, pathetic world, your comparison of the accomplishments of our dedicated teachers, to those of our nannies- who are more often than not high school or college students trying to earn some extra cash by burping babies and changing diapers, is just shy of a slap in the face. But again, I’m sure your heart was in the right place, so thank you for recognizing the lack of funding and support allocated toward our field of profession. :’)
Your in the middle of the ocean that’s why
Please help shift our pay by $30,000 and if the contract was followed teachers would find financial stability much quicker. We have never had our annual step increases followed this century. It is in our contract but every negotiation they say there is no money so we get a step increase every other year.
I wouldn’t be a teacher in Hawaii. I see them protesting every few years. Very unhappy bunch.
😁 Still, it's a tough job.
Teachers are paid based on a 9 month year. That's divided by 12 so they get paid monthly installments. I don't know with private schools.
And of course teachers don't get paid as high as administration because they're basically factory workers in a nursery. Too many people having kids all the while they're fully aware they won't be able to support them, but with the kids they get free house because they're an unemployed parent or low income. And since it's such a good thing, minus well keep popping them kids out (planned parenthood). That's where the money to pay teachers a higher pay is going.
Btw, good thing public schools are there because they sure wouldn't want to be watching their own kids all day long. It would drive them nuts. Now they drive the teachers nuts.
Sooner or later the kids gonna realize they're the actual breadwinners of the family. And for many, the underappreciated breadwinners. That's not totally responsible for any bad attitudes but it has a role.
I'm guessing that in every classroom 5 of the kids are supported by the state. As opposed through taxes paid by the parents. At 8K per kid (education expense), that totals to 40K that would have been going to the teachers' pay if things were the way they should be.
Some schools actually have pretty high numbers of students that receive free or reduced-price lunch. Not the kids fault. Just a sign that it's tough to make it here.
Chris…….why the hell would you want to be a teacher in the US????????? The pay SUCKS……THE STUDENTS ARE ANIMALS…….SOOOOO…..WHY?????????
Teaching is a rewarding job. I really enjoyed teaching at a university.
Please accept reality. Japanese + Korean families = family expectations of academic success. Philippino + Samoan + Tongan + local kine riff raff = no family expectation of academic achievement. The second group drags everybody down. Don't sugarcoat the truth.
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That is a pretty broad brush you are painting with. I know a lot of Filipinos that value education, homework and good work ethics. I worked here for decades as an RN and can say that the Filipino nurses were excellent and so were their kids.
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Sorry but all generalizations have an element of truth. If you lived in HI, you would see that...
@@Borat_Kazakh I live in Hawaii. My family has been here for over a century. Generalization and elements are mutually exclusive terms.
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Lol...why are "element" and "generalization" mutually exclusive.. you need to talk to some locals (privately)...b/c they believe this
Enough with the masks already
Why the hell are you walking around alone with a muzzle on?
Is it your business???
@Aron シ He was walking around vacant streets for a long time.
Although there wasn't anyone who was walking near me, I wore my mask just in case someone walked by, out of respect. The sidewalks are pretty narrow in Hawaii. Just a courtesy thing. 🤙
He saw you coming
Simple, pay teachers more. And to accommodate that you can raise your taxes to pay for it. Any takers?