gvon1989 He wasn't. This was before the big revelation and it was still believed that Luffy and Ace were brothers by blood. If you watched this whole video without knowing a bit about One Piece you'd think that he was talking about Dragon the whole time, not Roger.
@@RoadlKamelot Yeah but Roger turned himself because of an incurable illness. I'd rather go out and get captured after losing a fight with Blackbeard than go out because of something I can't control you know?
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Quite the opposite actually imo. Roger died on his own terms, after having achieved everything he wanted, whereas both Oden and Whitebeard died after having lost almost everything they held dear, and Ace's death was pretty much meaningless and could've been avoided. From another angle, Roger's death started a new era and was like a W for the pirate world, whereas Whitebeard, Oden and Ace's deaths brought an era to an end and only affected those connected to them in a negative way. Sure their deaths were great spectacles, but they weren't badass at all. Just sad.
+salvinsam this wasn't in impel down, this was in marineford, it's a cage for the people who will be executed. he was brought from there to the execution by foot.
+Frecheszinho it's funny that ace and luffy were perfect brothers, bonded by the fact both their real fathers were huge world wide criminals lol They truly did have each other and no one else lol
StealthBlade98 it's a very nice relation of brothers, sometimes the true brothers aren't related by blood, just as the true parents :P (sometimes only lol)
Yeah, that's really just the worst. I just don't get how you can hate someone that's only ever loved you and wanted you safe. Plus the fact that you don't even know the man. Doesn't make any sense.
+Team Soda Yh we know that but as far as Ace is concerned he was cursed and hated by the whole world simply because he was Roger's kid, ok Garp and Dadan raised him only Whitebeard really reached out to him
I absolutely love how Oda was able to have Ace talk about how he's the son of a notorious outlaw, making us all believe, at the time, that he was referring to Dragon when instead he was talking about Roger. Oda the Genius!
@I hate toxic fans I don't remember Naruto having any ambiguous references like this. Aside from people describing similarities between Naruto and Minato, before he was explicitly revealed to be his father
@I hate toxic fans wth no pls don't ever compare Oda to Kishimoto. WTF was last few arcs in naruto shippuden? Freaking trash I will never forgive him for destroying naruto
Let this be a lesson to all parents, the harder you force your children to become something the harder they will go in the opposite direction. Countless examples in real life, not just this manga.
+Toph Beifong Push? Garp didn't push them. He left them in the wild with bandits. All he said was "be a marine" he didn't push anything. Luffy would have become a pirate either way REGARDLESS of what Garp did. Same goes for Ace.
+Carbon Bonds (HCN) he left them with Dadan so they could become strong, his intentions were always marines. Especially luffy but both decided on this way of life lol Either way after what happened garp finally retired. He's a washed up old fart now
StealthBlade98 He wanted them to be marines but he didn't push them hard. He wasn't even around for most of the time. That's the point i wanted to make against OP's dumb comment,
Carbon Bonds He's a vice admiral he can't just stay with luffy and ace 24/7, he didn't have the time available to push them and even if he did it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway. :P
@@lucastham9328 Difference between Roger and Ace compared to Luffy and Dragon is simple. Ace grew up knowing who his father was, and thus experienced the hatred with it. Whereas Luffy grew up not knowing who his father was, not to mention Dragon wasn't as big as Roger was when Luffy and Ace were kids, so when Luffy grew up he can't hate his father when he didn't even know who he was. You can't care about something that doesn't exist to you. Ace on the other hand did which was why he was such an angry and aggressive kid whilst Luffy was more carefree and simple minded. That's why Luffy is fine, much less care, that he's never met his dad.
He's disappointed for the simple fact that he didn't want them to be in a predicament like how ace got himself In a future episode of marine ford he sits next to ace and says he wanted them to become marines so he wouldn't have to watch em be executed
But he's also proud of how strong they've become and that they followed their dreams no matter what! Which is why he's so conflicted during the war over ace.hes proud of hin,but still is loyal to the law.
Garp wanted them to join the Marines since he believed it was riskier for them to be Pirates. But what father wouldn't be proud to hear his sons doing something so outrageous? Garp himself isn't that proud of the WG
Nah. There is no correcting from "Whitebeard is my real father" no one can deny that from ace. Not even Roger. Roger may have given birth to Ace. But Ace will always respect and love whitebeard as his father more than anyone
@@thepresence5041 I would too lol. Ace was made to find the op. Roger says to reyleigh. And Roger was selfish in bringing a kid in to do it knowing his life would suck. And he’s be in constant state of well execution. Second bro named em after his sword ACE. So Roger didn’t even come up with a unique name just looked at his sword and said fuck it. Good enough. Even if ace knew Roger I doubt he would’ve loved em knowing the reasons he did what he did. He might like his personality as it’s like luffis
Even if Luffy's father wasn't a criminal, he would never be a marine. Luffy's heart would never allow him to tolerate the crap that the Celestial Dragon's and the World Government get away with. They treat all their subjects like garbage who's only purpose is to revere them and obey their selfish commands and desires. Robin has a death warrant on her head, not because of any crime she's committed but, because she was raised on an island where some of the people studied the past. And, the marines came and slaughtered everyone, innocent or otherwise, just to ensure that all the archaeologists were killed. I suspect the WG set fire to Luffy and Ace's home in the attempt to kill Ace, a mere child, because he was Gol D Roger's son. The WG stayed quiet about the facts of how White Lead disease was contracted for money's sake and the fact that it wasn't contagious while the neighbors of Law's country slaughtered every inhabitant of his home, infected or otherwise. The WG has many debts to answer for and Luffy would never be able to turn a blind eye to their crimes. Ace isn't likely to have been able to either. The fact that Garp can either means he doesn't know or he is blinded by his oath to the WG. If he does know, then he is a fool to think that Luffy or Ace could have ever followed in his footsteps.
***** I question whether it would be safer. Ace and Luffy live with their hearts on their sleeves. There is no guile or deception when it comes to their feelings. The ones around them will know it. All it would take is ONE instance of someone crossing the wrong line for them to show their true disposition and it could've gotten them killed on the spot. Akainu may have killed them as an example. A Celestial Dragon would have killed them just for daring to respond for even a second in such a manner.
***** It does come down to the age old question of Nature vs Nurture. Some things just are and how the person is raised might mellow that or reinforce it. There really is no question which path Ace would take. From a very young age, he knew who his father was and that the marines wanted him dead because of it. Given that, he wouldn't have changed much regardless of how he was raised. Sabo grew up to take a mentality that was set from a very young age, one so strong that he was adamant about not going home even when he had no memory of what awaited him there. I imagine that Luffy wouldn't have had any other path to choose from given that he grew up with them, bonded with them on a psychological level, and grieved greatly when he learned of Sabo's 'death' at the hands of a Celestial Dragon. I doubt anything would have changed the path he chose. At most, it may have changed the reason he gave Garp when they reunited. For the Luffy that is, the reason is that he always wanted to be a pirate. For the Luffy that may have been, he would never have chosen the marines for the love of his believed-to-be-dead sworn brother. One can argue "What Ifs" all day but some things are set and to change Luffy's choice and disposition would involve changes outside of Garp's reach of influence. Sabo's 'family', the WG, every noble in Sabo's home town, the Celestial Dragons, the marines and all the people who raised Ace, Sabo and Luffy after Garp left all had a hand in Luffy's choice and disposition. Garp really had no chance of convincing Luffy to become a marine. At the very most, he wouldn't have been a pirate either. But then, Luffy is too much like Garp to just stay at home and try to be happy with that. Those two are so much alike that they both fell asleep while Garp had Luffy by the front of his shirt. It is unlikely that Luffy could live the quiet life. It just isn't in him.
***** A blind single-mindedness to duty or a strict adherence to his word could be why Garp can tolerate being a marine. There are many petty reasons, each as likely as the next, that could apply but Garp strikes me as duty and oath oriented. It would take a lot for him to go back on his oath to the marines, even for the right reasons. He might even think the WG and the Celestial Dragons are the lesser evil or simply be in it to inspire the people by giving them an example of what a marine is supposed to be. It's hard to say what his reason is.
+DarkPegasus87 I think Garp was indifferent to all the horrible things the government had been doing because that's the way the OP world worked for most of his life, so he's grown used to it. It never really affected his way of life until Ace was captured.
+DarkPegasus87 Garp and Sengoku hated the world government officials to some degree it's why he requested Kuzan to become the new Fleet Admiral but the WG chose Akainu and it's also why Kuzan left, he wouldn't follow someone like Akainu in charge knowing all the stuff he's done. Only reason why garp and sengoku follows the WG orders is to not cause problems. Luffy doesn't care so he'll do whatever he likes lol
@@nandhannatarajan2127 Yeah honestly, Garp isn't a great carer. This is evident even without Luffy and Ace, just look at Dragon. You are the Legendary Hero of Marines yet your (only?) child becomes the Leader of a World Revolution. Yep. He loves his family very much, and is strict but one thing he never does is take away their freedom. This is seen from his own stance where he never took the Admiral position seemingly because he valued the freedom of a Vice-Admiral much more. And as often with family two things always happen. Either the son/younger brother will either try to imitate the elder family member or go completely opposite to the example set by said family member to carve out their own unique identity. That's why where Ace was the tough, angry brother; Luffy was the simple minded and naive one, with Sabo being the responsible and thoughtful one. Where Garp was the prime example of a World Government Hero, Dragon became the anti-thesis of it. The reason why Dragon and Luffy/Ace chose to not become exemplary Marines is for a younger family member to imitate the elder family member, the elder family member must be admirable and an idol figure to the younger family member. Ace/Luffy definitely do love Garp, maybe even Dragon too, but admire/idolise Garp? With Garp's overtly strict but leniant, disruptive and chaotic personality? No way in hell Garp was a great father figure for his family members.
@@giovannitorres9337 What you said isn't entirely true. He doesn't become an Admiral because he hates the Celestial Dragons and Admiral works directly under them. Garp knows how corrupted the WG is. He just stays as a Marine to capture evil pirates. If WG is not corrupted and actually good, I bet Garp would accept the Admiral position and Dragon, Luffy, Ace would follow his step to become Marines. However, with how WG, royalties and nobles treating people like dirt and how Ace and Luffy from a young age have witnessed that with their own eyes, no matter what Garp done, there is no way they can become Marine. The WG and Celestial Dragons are the ones who caused Ace's mother and Sabo's death and I am sure Dragon must have seen a lot of awful stuffs caused by them too.
@@miyako1909 I mean what you're saying about Garp not being an Admiral is true, but its a half-truth. That just goes back to the original point of why Garp's not an admiral- freedom. Like all D's, Garp values freedom above all else. And that's why he chooses not to be an admiral as indeed, the WG is corrupt and being an admiral means you have to do exactly as they say, thus loosing his freedom. You loose your freedom if your commander/leader stops you from doing what you want. This is the complete opposite of people under Luffy, Dragon and (even briefly) Ace's command when he was solo. Luffy has people under his command, but since the people under his command shares the same values, they do not have restricted freedom and operate as they wish. This is different if the subordinate has differring morals/values as their leader for example take if someone like Akainu was under Luffy's command, Akainu would have restricted freedom. Why? Because simply Akainu wants to kill people for the sake of justice, propaganda and censorship for what he considers is Absolute Justice. Luffy is the opposite and strives for a Moral/Lazy Freedom, where do what you want and whatever you need to at any cost except the methods are never inhumane or immoral as opposed to Blackbeard who stands for Absolute Freedom (following your goals at literally any costs, so in this case he murders his captain, betrays all of WB crew, sells out Ace, betrays World Government etc.). And we see this conflicting values and morals with leader/subordinates. BB betrayed WB and the Navy due to conflicting values. Aokiji left the Navy due to conflicting values with Akainu. Aokiji felt his freedom to operate and values restricted by Akainu in charge so he left. And ultimately, that's the same with Garp and the post of an Admiral. The WG would have restricted his freedom to what he wanted how he wanted if he became an Admiral. So yeah, we're not really in disagreement about Garp. And that's why I've said Garp to Dragon/Luffy/Ace was never an exemplar father figure- where Garp is happy with his half-freedom as a Vice-Admiral, to them Garp living a life of half-freedom, wasn't what they wanted.
I'm sorry but Ace would never have become a navy soilder with or without Garp's influence. The navy would've find out about Ace's lineage. The sins of the father do not pass onto a child. However in Ace's case, the world treated him as bad as Roger. I feel so bad for ace. Looking for compassion in a world that despised him and his father.
Could have gone either way really. I assume it depends on your rank as Garp is the father of the leader of the Revolutionary Army, grandfather of a famous rookie pirate, and adopted father of a Whitebeard division commander. If Ace was a high enough rank he might have gotten a by too.
+hebince44 And your point? In a world where simply being related or affiliated with a pirate is a crime then Garp is also guilty. BUT he gets away with it as long as he performs his duties. In an alternate universe where Ace grew up and become a marine who took down Whitebeard, I'm sure he would get the respect he deserves.
+hebince44 Sarcasm? You must be because Akainu doesn't love anybody even in this world. But if Ace grew strong, devoted himself to the marines, and took a down a legendary pirate I doubt even Akainu can still hold a grudge. I imagine Akainu would give Ace respectful head nod but that's just me.
I liked ace’s smile when garp was talking about luffy like a proud big bro I really didn’t want this to happen to ace my heart keeps breaking when I remember And I wanted the ASL brother to reunite but ….
i always think about how tough of a position garp was in. he is a man who definitely cares about justice, but not the same justice the gorosei and other higher ranked marines believe in upholding. i mean, roger would never have trusted garp with ace if he didnt think garp was a good man despite being on opposite sides. garp really wanted his boys to become marines because he understands first hand how the people in power hunt after pirates. perhaps garp even thought that as marines, ace and luffy could change the system (and they are, just in different ways). to garp, he wanted them to be marines so even if they lived in a system they dont really believe in (like himself), they could at least avoid persecution from all over the world. i love garp's character and you do truly see how he loves his boys despite being very different.
Not the best grandfather but Garp wasn’t the worst grandfather. At least his grandsons had good morals. Could had been worst if they were evil, now that would be his biggest failure as a grandfather.
Wait, how did Ace find out that Dragon was Luffy's father? Garp said that he told Luffy about his father and Ace says that they both carry the blood of renowned criminals so Ace has probably known for a while...
if u didnt , read ace novels. its not drawed/written by oda but it said they r canon. so true stories. he confirmed. they r pretty good. there r 3 volumes translated to english.
Garp wasn’t my favorite Marine officer until the Post-Timeskip which is hilarious because people in the Pre-Timeskip era seems to constantly bitch and moan on him much better the Pre-Timeskip era was better than Post-Timeskip era, and the only arc in the Pre-Timeskip era that was the best arc in my opinion was the Skypia arc.
@@otakuind7006 , Water 7 and Enies Lobby were C or D Tier Arcs in my opinion, and I’d say that Thriller Bark was more of an A Tier Arc than Water 7 and Enies Lobby.
@@otakuind7006 , my most favorite Arc in the Pre-Timeskip Era is the Skypeia Arc, and I definitely like Thriller Bark more than Water 7 and Enies Lobby Arcs.
I'd still would have loved it if garp said: OW YEAH, WHITEBEARD IS YOUR OLD MAN?? WANT ME TO COME IN THIS CAGE AND GIVE YOU SOME OF GRANDPA'S FIST OF LOVE, ACE???
Cristian-Esteban Van Oord No it would have been pointless because Garp’s “fist of love” was used to convince him to become a marine but well that was out of the question at this point because of well...... Obvious reasons and the moment was too serious for that sort of humor anyways.
Damn the feels When Ace says his father is Whitebeard and no one else. Ace’s story of his past wasn’t really well shown, but if you think about it, he had a really troublesome past, being surrounded by haters. It went to the extent that he even questioned his grandfather whether he deserved to live or not. It’s not Ace’s fault or anyone’s fault. That’s just how it is, and really sad.
@@TheTobirianagentzero, he’s an asshole is what is he is because if he at least spent some time talking and communicating with his family than they wouldn’t have become renowned criminals, but since he’s so dedicated to his job over his own family they’re all criminals because of his own doing.
@@TheTobirianagentzero, the movie featuring Sabo; the episodes after the Timeskip, and the time Luffy destroyed Enies Lobby as well as the time he punched a Celestial Dragon shows that Garp hasn’t done Jack shit to help improve the world of One Piece as well him not doing anything for his family as well.
I mean i can understand how Ace feels about Roger, the thing that he doesn't own him anything, but to be honest, why does he despise Roger sooo much? It's not like he lived a luxury life and he abandoned his wife and child, he got executed before Ace was born!! So explain to me how the fuck he abandoned Ace!!! But well, i think Ace hates him cause he chose to be a criminal knowing what that meant to his family (wich he didn't have at that time) and the thing that he was a social outcast thanks to his father, but is not like Roger wanted that! He even made Garp promise that he would take care of him!! Before leaving this world, his father made sure that his son could live a "normal and safe" life!! So Ace, before loathing somebody that much, inform yourself!!
No! His mother didn't die because of Roger! Wtf!! She had a post-partum death, wich is not that strange in some cases, and i could understand Ace if he was a normal civillian, and the fact that he's Roger's son made his life a living hell, but Ace is a criminal too! And remember that at first, only Sengoku and Garp knew about Ace's father, so i don't think that's a good reason either!!!
I mean she had to use her sill power to keep him from being born for like 20 months because of the marines looking for Rodgers family so that's not a normal death
Liviana Dumitru he knew how people thought about roger and they would think the same about ace if they knew they roger was his father thats why he hated him, cause people would hate because of what his father did get your facts right or watch the anime atleast and pay some attention
Liviana Dumitru She died because of Roger. She died because she prolonged Ace's birth, which is to avoid the search for Roger's child. So it was because of Roger.
by watching garp, i understand parents more (mine, at least). it's not that they don't want u to be happy with ur own set of dreams, they just want to make sure that u'll be safe and sound in the future. not that i want to follow them now though lmao i'm kinda like luffy. but i just understand them better.
Peta Matenga Okay,i like your reaction,you don't seem like a troll so i'm gonna give you an answer. First of all Garp saved his life...secondly,I know he wasnt around much but he always visited him and luffy and was the closest of a father figure to him.What did WB do for him?
Okay, im not being a dick, im being genuine k. How did garp save his life?? And no he visited only a couple times for long but mostly short periods im pretty sure (if im wrong then tell me the eps and ill rewatch). Dadan was more of a father figure then Garp lol ... Plus if Ace says that white beards his father, then doesn't that tellyou something?
ace is my favorite character but when you think about it he hates roger because he was the worst criminal and he said whitebeard was his real father wtf whitebeard is one of the worst criminal too XD
It's not just about that. Whitebeard, of his own free will, chose to be a father to Ace and take him in. he treated Ace as though he mattered and gave him a place to belong and to be loved. To Ace, this is everything.
mollerbt okai dude so what do you think if roger was alive he would be treating ace like garbage ? probably not he didnt have the chance to make some good thing to ace and whitebeard yes ofcourse but still one of the worst criminal.
Portgas D Ace I think it's a little deeper than that, Ace doesn't have a legitimate reason for hating Roger, the world hates Roger because of the lies told about him by the government and because he was the pirate king. Aces' disdain for his father stems from the pain he feels about what his mother had to go through in order for him to be born. Due to the circumstances that his father was partially responsible for, he had to grow up in a world that hated him (Ace) without both of his parents. Ace is using Roger as a lightning rod to vent his frustrations, but even when they talked bad about Roger he'd still get upset. So he didn't necessarily hate his father, but he resented him for his circumstances.
Garp had the most messy family and entourage xD His son is a revolutionaire His grandson want to become pirate king His adopted grandson want to make WB a pirate ling His other adopted grandson his 2 commendant revolutionaire His have marine friends His friend was the pirate king
I feel like Garp could've used his sway as "THE hero of the marines" to get Ace something slightly more comfortable in Impel Down. Yes, I am aware of the "hell" that is each and every level of that prison (except the two lowest/highest security levels for some reason) but having handcuffs that weaken/exhaust you holding you in a constantly upright position would be excruciating.
yeah! or imagine luffy being in ace's place, ace would come, which means he would bring the whitebeard crew, dragon would have come along with the army of his(as if he wouldn't be enough) Shanks would have also came along with his crew, Garp wouldn't allow his grandson to be executed either, Hancock would have defended him, His own crew and also every island he has saved would have at least send some help. GG world government they would get so raped! xD
i don't think dragon would come. pirates can do whatever they want for a friend in the crew, but the Revolutionary army is of different nature. You can't go challenge the government just for one person's son. That's also the reason why Sabo didn't acknowledge luffy and ace of everything immediately after he got shot. Revolution army is an underground work.
No i think dragon would come even ivankov said it when she though ace was dragons son , she was asking if the goverment was stupid to take on dragon and whitebeard
Shahe Islam yeah you are probably right. he did care for them equally. Jane Zhang ok but if dragon didn't come to rescue his own son then he would at least make his move to destroy the world government, think about it! it would be the best opportunity to strike, while shanks and whitebeard are holding off the marines he would at Least go the other way and destroy them from there.
Dragon could not have been an admiral because the navy only knew Garp was his father until late. that theory is squashed. Its as Robin was explaining that they couldn't link this Revolutionary leader to anyone and yet all along... his roots went back to the marine hero Garp . Ace should have hidden his name like Law did instead of taken his mother's first name "Portgas". He still carried the "D". Obviously this was how the Navy traced him back to his parents
I LOVE THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THAT IS BEING MADE! THE RAW OR NATURAL ENERGY OF THE SURROUNDINGS MAKES IT MORE GENUINE AND MAKES ONE PIECE A SPECIAL ANIME! WE COULD ALL RELATE TO IT AT SOME POINTS TO IT. ALSO, IT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE. ROGER REALLY CARED FOR HIS SON AND ITS SAD THAT ACE HATED HIM TILL THE DAY HE DIED! SAD STORY BUT IT IS THE TRUTH!
ace just don't know that luffy the reincarnation of roger . it's like a devil fruit , it will be reborn if the user is dead . and it's passed down since the ancient time . and it reminds me of joyboy .
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Ace's opinion about his father is a great example of how media effects our views on things honestly.. Roger was a great person but he'd never know sadly.
Such clips and others prove that Luffy is really the real deal and well awarded of the main character title.He is much more emotional than most of the pirates in the One Piece world and though he claims to be a pirate , even if he does good things for others , he doesn't want to be called a hero which can be attributed to his burning passion.Luffy also respects the Marines , those who help others the right way and even though he became a pirate he loves his grandfather.Unlike Ace and Sabo , let's be honest it was only natural for them to be closer together since Luffy is Garp's biological grandson and wanted to have a lot of time with his family.Probably in future arcs , Garp will join Dragon's army and they ll search together for Luffy to reunite as one whole big family.Even if it'll initially be hard cause Luffy will tell Dragon that he cannot call himself his father since he abandoned him when he was a newborn baby.Probably thi'll happen sooner after Wano
Matthew Tedla And luffy is not a murderer. He will never kill hundreds of men lile roger. (Ace wont be like that too thats why oda made him with whitebeard. WB never kills someone.
I don't get why Ace of all the characters had to die -_- ,,, this is why I dumped One Piece a few years ago (although it got switched with the best anime of all time GINTAMAAAAAAA,, so I dint miss it,, but now since its over.... bk to One Piece)
Mansouri Seif Gintama won best anime of 2015, plus Gintoki (main character) won best anime character 2 yrs in a row in Japan,, plus the voice actor of Gintoki won best voice actor because of playing Gintoki ,, so yeah its more than good, IT'S GREAT!! it deleted all other anime's from my favorite list and took their place
Gintama only gets good at episode 40 something,, and then gets awesome at episode 60 something,,, then it justs get better and better till it tops any anime you've ever seen... n I've seen A LOT, it beats one piece believe me! it has many concepts, a mixture of history drama comedy parody sci-fi, pirates, politics. It has serious arcs concerning its plot,, and it has random episodes and it has crazy funny arcs... it's amazing, ask any fan of it they'll tell you the same thing as I did, Gintama beats any anime they ever saw!!!
i liked how garp was about to defend roger right before ace started to talk again. it shows the respect garp had for roger
There like also brothers or something
either that or oda wasnt ready to tell everyone that ace and luffy werent really brothers
gvon1989
He wasn't. This was before the big revelation and it was still believed that Luffy and Ace were brothers by blood. If you watched this whole video without knowing a bit about One Piece you'd think that he was talking about Dragon the whole time, not Roger.
No it doesn't! He names Gol D Roger by name and Dragon! So we know by this point that they're not brothers by blood
Garp was about to tell him how heroic his father was
Interesting to note that this is exactly how garp talked to roger before his execution
One of those moments where it's smart NOT to follow in your old man's foot steps.
@@RoadlKamelot
Yeah but Roger turned himself because of an incurable illness. I'd rather go out and get captured after losing a fight with Blackbeard than go out because of something I can't control you know?
@@OneLordeAnimeClips Obviously Roger had his reasons to do it
@@ismailfaalih9559 , Oden, Ace, and White Beard all had way more badass public executions in the anime and manga than Roger himself.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Quite the opposite actually imo. Roger died on his own terms, after having achieved everything he wanted, whereas both Oden and Whitebeard died after having lost almost everything they held dear, and Ace's death was pretty much meaningless and could've been avoided. From another angle, Roger's death started a new era and was like a W for the pirate world, whereas Whitebeard, Oden and Ace's deaths brought an era to an end and only affected those connected to them in a negative way. Sure their deaths were great spectacles, but they weren't badass at all. Just sad.
I'm glad that Ace is actually the son of Gol D. roger. It would have been really cliche if Luffy was his son.
+Sonia Chatti ~ Ace is only 3 years older than luffy. Why have 4 people liked this? lol
Sonia Chatti ~ Cheh... NoOOow lol ;) You enjoying the anime so far being a new viewer dude?
Sonia Chatti ~ Fujitora is such a boss he doesn't even need eyes to see through bullshit :'D
Yeah massive plot twist, i'm not here to troll hahaha
+shawzie1916 Yeah i really like him ! he us going for real justice
Meanwhile, Crocodile is listening right in front of Ace's cage.
+salvinsam Where is he? Can't spot him.
+salvinsam this wasn't in impel down, this was in marineford, it's a cage for the people who will be executed. he was brought from there to the execution by foot.
+Frecheszinho it's funny that ace and luffy were perfect brothers, bonded by the fact both their real fathers were huge world wide criminals lol
They truly did have each other and no one else lol
StealthBlade98 it's a very nice relation of brothers, sometimes the true brothers aren't related by blood, just as the true parents :P (sometimes only lol)
Frecheszinho At least now luffy still has sabo, hopefully he'll stick around longer than ace
When we all saw this scene for the first time, we still thought luffy and ace were blood brothers and their father was dragon, oh what a shock we got.
For sure. Clearly, Oda is a master of misdirection and subterfuge. He's like the Japanese version of Agatha Christie
ash eash The fact that they called each other brothers was our first clue.
well dude i guess u r the only one...
ash eash Well his father is Gol. D Roger
Bob Bryan his fatehr is the pirate king
luffy father is dragon
the two are adopted brother like a brother that is not related
In the end, Ace died and still hated his father. His father actually really cared for his son but died before Ace was even born. Kinda sad...
Yeah, that's really just the worst. I just don't get how you can hate someone that's only ever loved you and wanted you safe. Plus the fact that you don't even know the man. Doesn't make any sense.
+Team Soda Yh we know that but as far as Ace is concerned he was cursed and hated by the whole world simply because he was Roger's kid, ok Garp and Dadan raised him only Whitebeard really reached out to him
+sreddi83 garp should've told how Roger really cared about ace....
Arul Asveen Garp should have really looked after the kids properly rather than leaving them with criminals and beating them up
+Random Citizen I just don't get it, why did Roger turn himself in? didn't he know he has a son?
I absolutely love how Oda was able to have Ace talk about how he's the son of a notorious outlaw, making us all believe, at the time, that he was referring to Dragon when instead he was talking about Roger. Oda the Genius!
@I hate toxic fans how
@I hate toxic fans I don't remember Naruto having any ambiguous references like this. Aside from people describing similarities between Naruto and Minato, before he was explicitly revealed to be his father
@I hate toxic fans wth no pls don't ever compare Oda to Kishimoto. WTF was last few arcs in naruto shippuden? Freaking trash I will never forgive him for destroying naruto
@I hate toxic fans Oda is way better than kishimoto
Maybe at that point he did wanted him to be dragon son and then later changed it.
Let this be a lesson to all parents, the harder you force your children to become something the harder they will go in the opposite direction. Countless examples in real life, not just this manga.
+Toph Beifong Push? Garp didn't push them. He left them in the wild with bandits. All he said was "be a marine" he didn't push anything. Luffy would have become a pirate either way REGARDLESS of what Garp did. Same goes for Ace.
+Toph Beifong I love you Toph, but why you everywhere?
+Carbon Bonds (HCN) he left them with Dadan so they could become strong, his intentions were always marines. Especially luffy but both decided on this way of life lol
Either way after what happened garp finally retired. He's a washed up old fart now
StealthBlade98
He wanted them to be marines but he didn't push them hard. He wasn't even around for most of the time. That's the point i wanted to make against OP's dumb comment,
Carbon Bonds He's a vice admiral he can't just stay with luffy and ace 24/7, he didn't have the time available to push them and even if he did it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway. :P
I like how they have their disagreements about being a pirate or a marine but both of them are genuinely Happy when they talk about luffy.
Bruh 8 years ago
I love ace's smirk so much.
When whitebeard is your father you have no fear nothing
all those level six prisoners had to shut up when garp was there. they had to put some respek on his name
Minato D Roger yeah. They knew that he wouldn't pull back any punches if they did any shit.😂😂😂😂
Y'all finished or y'all done? - Garp
Its either he is the one who put them down there or they are shitting their pants because this old man used to have 1v1 fights against Roger ...
This wasn't in Impel Down.
It was
man ace had some real daddy issues!
exactly what I thought after watching this
Luffy has never seen Dragon, and is completely fine even after knowing but never meeting him, let alone gol d roger
no shit sherlock, oda depicted tormented father-son relashionship in such a good way
@@lucastham9328 Difference between Roger and Ace compared to Luffy and Dragon is simple.
Ace grew up knowing who his father was, and thus experienced the hatred with it.
Whereas Luffy grew up not knowing who his father was, not to mention Dragon wasn't as big as Roger was when Luffy and Ace were kids, so when Luffy grew up he can't hate his father when he didn't even know who he was. You can't care about something that doesn't exist to you. Ace on the other hand did which was why he was such an angry and aggressive kid whilst Luffy was more carefree and simple minded. That's why Luffy is fine, much less care, that he's never met his dad.
>every main protagonist in anime i know has either
Dead dad
Missing dad
Hate their dad
Never knew their dad at all.
I cant tell. If Garp disappointed they didnt become marines or proud that they are causing such an uproar. So confusing.
He's disappointed for the simple fact that he didn't want them to be in a predicament like how ace got himself
In a future episode of marine ford he sits next to ace and says he wanted them to become marines so he wouldn't have to watch em be executed
But he's also proud of how strong they've become and that they followed their dreams no matter what! Which is why he's so conflicted during the war over ace.hes proud of hin,but still is loyal to the law.
He also knows how corrupted the Marines and The World Government are
Garp wanted them to join the Marines since he believed it was riskier for them to be Pirates. But what father wouldn't be proud to hear his sons doing something so outrageous? Garp himself isn't that proud of the WG
He's just happy they're doing something with their lives.. and not sitting at home all day watching anime and playing games.. Lmao
That smile oh my God. I'm gonna cry, he's so proud of Luffy.
I really admire how mature Garp is in the way he respected Ace's feelings even though, he at least wanted to correct him.
Nah. There is no correcting from "Whitebeard is my real father" no one can deny that from ace. Not even Roger. Roger may have given birth to Ace. But Ace will always respect and love whitebeard as his father more than anyone
@@thepresence5041 I would too lol. Ace was made to find the op. Roger says to reyleigh. And Roger was selfish in bringing a kid in to do it knowing his life would suck. And he’s be in constant state of well execution. Second bro named em after his sword ACE. So Roger didn’t even come up with a unique name just looked at his sword and said fuck it. Good enough. Even if ace knew Roger I doubt he would’ve loved em knowing the reasons he did what he did. He might like his personality as it’s like luffis
i like how this scene made it look like Ace was talking about Dragon. Really didn't see it coming that it was the pirate king himself.
Even if Luffy's father wasn't a criminal, he would never be a marine. Luffy's heart would never allow him to tolerate the crap that the Celestial Dragon's and the World Government get away with. They treat all their subjects like garbage who's only purpose is to revere them and obey their selfish commands and desires. Robin has a death warrant on her head, not because of any crime she's committed but, because she was raised on an island where some of the people studied the past. And, the marines came and slaughtered everyone, innocent or otherwise, just to ensure that all the archaeologists were killed. I suspect the WG set fire to Luffy and Ace's home in the attempt to kill Ace, a mere child, because he was Gol D Roger's son. The WG stayed quiet about the facts of how White Lead disease was contracted for money's sake and the fact that it wasn't contagious while the neighbors of Law's country slaughtered every inhabitant of his home, infected or otherwise. The WG has many debts to answer for and Luffy would never be able to turn a blind eye to their crimes. Ace isn't likely to have been able to either.
The fact that Garp can either means he doesn't know or he is blinded by his oath to the WG. If he does know, then he is a fool to think that Luffy or Ace could have ever followed in his footsteps.
***** I question whether it would be safer. Ace and Luffy live with their hearts on their sleeves. There is no guile or deception when it comes to their feelings. The ones around them will know it. All it would take is ONE instance of someone crossing the wrong line for them to show their true disposition and it could've gotten them killed on the spot. Akainu may have killed them as an example. A Celestial Dragon would have killed them just for daring to respond for even a second in such a manner.
***** It does come down to the age old question of Nature vs Nurture. Some things just are and how the person is raised might mellow that or reinforce it.
There really is no question which path Ace would take. From a very young age, he knew who his father was and that the marines wanted him dead because of it. Given that, he wouldn't have changed much regardless of how he was raised. Sabo grew up to take a mentality that was set from a very young age, one so strong that he was adamant about not going home even when he had no memory of what awaited him there. I imagine that Luffy wouldn't have had any other path to choose from given that he grew up with them, bonded with them on a psychological level, and grieved greatly when he learned of Sabo's 'death' at the hands of a Celestial Dragon. I doubt anything would have changed the path he chose.
At most, it may have changed the reason he gave Garp when they reunited. For the Luffy that is, the reason is that he always wanted to be a pirate. For the Luffy that may have been, he would never have chosen the marines for the love of his believed-to-be-dead sworn brother. One can argue "What Ifs" all day but some things are set and to change Luffy's choice and disposition would involve changes outside of Garp's reach of influence. Sabo's 'family', the WG, every noble in Sabo's home town, the Celestial Dragons, the marines and all the people who raised Ace, Sabo and Luffy after Garp left all had a hand in Luffy's choice and disposition. Garp really had no chance of convincing Luffy to become a marine. At the very most, he wouldn't have been a pirate either. But then, Luffy is too much like Garp to just stay at home and try to be happy with that. Those two are so much alike that they both fell asleep while Garp had Luffy by the front of his shirt. It is unlikely that Luffy could live the quiet life. It just isn't in him.
***** A blind single-mindedness to duty or a strict adherence to his word could be why Garp can tolerate being a marine. There are many petty reasons, each as likely as the next, that could apply but Garp strikes me as duty and oath oriented. It would take a lot for him to go back on his oath to the marines, even for the right reasons. He might even think the WG and the Celestial Dragons are the lesser evil or simply be in it to inspire the people by giving them an example of what a marine is supposed to be. It's hard to say what his reason is.
+DarkPegasus87 I think Garp was indifferent to all the horrible things the government had been doing because that's the way the OP world worked for most of his life, so he's grown used to it.
It never really affected his way of life until Ace was captured.
+DarkPegasus87 Garp and Sengoku hated the world government officials to some degree it's why he requested Kuzan to become the new Fleet Admiral but the WG chose Akainu and it's also why Kuzan left, he wouldn't follow someone like Akainu in charge knowing all the stuff he's done.
Only reason why garp and sengoku follows the WG orders is to not cause problems. Luffy doesn't care so he'll do whatever he likes lol
sure. to let them grew up with mountain bandits in the forest makes good marines! XD
Martok84 better be a free pirate than be a corrupted marine or a celestial dragon dog
Martok84 that kinda logic runs through luffy and garp
@@nandhannatarajan2127 Yeah honestly, Garp isn't a great carer. This is evident even without Luffy and Ace, just look at Dragon. You are the Legendary Hero of Marines yet your (only?) child becomes the Leader of a World Revolution. Yep. He loves his family very much, and is strict but one thing he never does is take away their freedom. This is seen from his own stance where he never took the Admiral position seemingly because he valued the freedom of a Vice-Admiral much more.
And as often with family two things always happen. Either the son/younger brother will either try to imitate the elder family member or go completely opposite to the example set by said family member to carve out their own unique identity. That's why where Ace was the tough, angry brother; Luffy was the simple minded and naive one, with Sabo being the responsible and thoughtful one. Where Garp was the prime example of a World Government Hero, Dragon became the anti-thesis of it. The reason why Dragon and Luffy/Ace chose to not become exemplary Marines is for a younger family member to imitate the elder family member, the elder family member must be admirable and an idol figure to the younger family member. Ace/Luffy definitely do love Garp, maybe even Dragon too, but admire/idolise Garp? With Garp's overtly strict but leniant, disruptive and chaotic personality? No way in hell Garp was a great father figure for his family members.
@@giovannitorres9337 What you said isn't entirely true. He doesn't become an Admiral because he hates the Celestial Dragons and Admiral works directly under them. Garp knows how corrupted the WG is. He just stays as a Marine to capture evil pirates. If WG is not corrupted and actually good, I bet Garp would accept the Admiral position and Dragon, Luffy, Ace would follow his step to become Marines. However, with how WG, royalties and nobles treating people like dirt and how Ace and Luffy from a young age have witnessed that with their own eyes, no matter what Garp done, there is no way they can become Marine. The WG and Celestial Dragons are the ones who caused Ace's mother and Sabo's death and I am sure Dragon must have seen a lot of awful stuffs caused by them too.
@@miyako1909 I mean what you're saying about Garp not being an Admiral is true, but its a half-truth.
That just goes back to the original point of why Garp's not an admiral- freedom. Like all D's, Garp values freedom above all else. And that's why he chooses not to be an admiral as indeed, the WG is corrupt and being an admiral means you have to do exactly as they say, thus loosing his freedom. You loose your freedom if your commander/leader stops you from doing what you want.
This is the complete opposite of people under Luffy, Dragon and (even briefly) Ace's command when he was solo. Luffy has people under his command, but since the people under his command shares the same values, they do not have restricted freedom and operate as they wish. This is different if the subordinate has differring morals/values as their leader for example take if someone like Akainu was under Luffy's command, Akainu would have restricted freedom. Why? Because simply Akainu wants to kill people for the sake of justice, propaganda and censorship for what he considers is Absolute Justice. Luffy is the opposite and strives for a Moral/Lazy Freedom, where do what you want and whatever you need to at any cost except the methods are never inhumane or immoral as opposed to Blackbeard who stands for Absolute Freedom (following your goals at literally any costs, so in this case he murders his captain, betrays all of WB crew, sells out Ace, betrays World Government etc.). And we see this conflicting values and morals with leader/subordinates. BB betrayed WB and the Navy due to conflicting values. Aokiji left the Navy due to conflicting values with Akainu. Aokiji felt his freedom to operate and values restricted by Akainu in charge so he left.
And ultimately, that's the same with Garp and the post of an Admiral. The WG would have restricted his freedom to what he wanted how he wanted if he became an Admiral.
So yeah, we're not really in disagreement about Garp. And that's why I've said Garp to Dragon/Luffy/Ace was never an exemplar father figure- where Garp is happy with his half-freedom as a Vice-Admiral, to them Garp living a life of half-freedom, wasn't what they wanted.
I'm sorry but Ace would never have become a navy soilder with or without Garp's influence. The navy would've find out about Ace's lineage. The sins of the father do not pass onto a child. However in Ace's case, the world treated him as bad as Roger. I feel so bad for ace. Looking for compassion in a world that despised him and his father.
Could have gone either way really. I assume it depends on your rank as Garp is the father of the leader of the Revolutionary Army, grandfather of a famous rookie pirate, and adopted father of a Whitebeard division commander.
If Ace was a high enough rank he might have gotten a by too.
No Garp was marine WAY before all that stuff.
+hebince44 And your point? In a world where simply being related or affiliated with a pirate is a crime then Garp is also guilty. BUT he gets away with it as long as he performs his duties.
In an alternate universe where Ace grew up and become a marine who took down Whitebeard, I'm sure he would get the respect he deserves.
Wesley Wallace Yeah sure Akainu would love him.
+hebince44 Sarcasm? You must be because Akainu doesn't love anybody even in this world. But if Ace grew strong, devoted himself to the marines, and took a down a legendary pirate I doubt even Akainu can still hold a grudge.
I imagine Akainu would give Ace respectful head nod but that's just me.
Whitebeard: Join me! As Father and Son, together we will rule the New World!
When ace smiles after garp laughs I ALWAYS FUCKIGN CRY
My favorite part is when Ace grins when Garp is laughing about Luffy. Family is important to both of them.
I liked ace’s smile when garp was talking about luffy like a proud big bro
I really didn’t want this to happen to ace my heart keeps breaking when I remember
And I wanted the ASL brother to reunite but ….
This whole bloody arc was a big rollercoaster of emotions, I felt when garp cried for ace
i always think about how tough of a position garp was in. he is a man who definitely cares about justice, but not the same justice the gorosei and other higher ranked marines believe in upholding. i mean, roger would never have trusted garp with ace if he didnt think garp was a good man despite being on opposite sides. garp really wanted his boys to become marines because he understands first hand how the people in power hunt after pirates. perhaps garp even thought that as marines, ace and luffy could change the system (and they are, just in different ways). to garp, he wanted them to be marines so even if they lived in a system they dont really believe in (like himself), they could at least avoid persecution from all over the world. i love garp's character and you do truly see how he loves his boys despite being very different.
Not the best grandfather but Garp wasn’t the worst grandfather. At least his grandsons had good morals. Could had been worst if they were evil, now that would be his biggest failure as a grandfather.
じいちゃん、ルフィとエースを守る為に海兵にさせたかったのに・・・
願い叶わず、「兄弟揃ってゴロツキ」に・・・
それでも、じいちゃんは二人がかわいいから・・・
Wait, how did Ace find out that Dragon was Luffy's father? Garp said that he told Luffy about his father and Ace says that they both carry the blood of renowned criminals so Ace has probably known for a while...
fart
He heard it from Dadan when he was a child
@@ItsJustValHere really? It's weird Luffy didn't know in that case
Garp probably told him when Ace asked if he had a son (because he knows he has a grandson)
ルフィの話し聞いて笑うエース好き
It‘s sad that Ace didn’t have a lot of screen time. Like I wanted more fight scenes and also the reunion of ASL brothers so imma cry again🥲
if u didnt , read ace novels. its not drawed/written by oda but it said they r canon. so true stories. he confirmed. they r pretty good. there r 3 volumes translated to english.
Fucking Garp, one of my favorite characters
Garp wasn’t my favorite Marine officer until the Post-Timeskip which is hilarious because people in the Pre-Timeskip era seems to constantly bitch and moan on him much better the Pre-Timeskip era was better than Post-Timeskip era, and the only arc in the Pre-Timeskip era that was the best arc in my opinion was the Skypia arc.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr water 7 or enies lobby?
@@otakuind7006 , Water 7 and Enies Lobby were C or D Tier Arcs in my opinion, and I’d say that Thriller Bark was more of an A Tier Arc than Water 7 and Enies Lobby.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 😅tbh , I hated thriller bark most.
Its just my opinion
@@otakuind7006 , my most favorite Arc in the Pre-Timeskip Era is the Skypeia Arc, and I definitely like Thriller Bark more than Water 7 and Enies Lobby Arcs.
Garp sounds like a proud grandpa. How beautiful is this anime
I'd still would have loved it if garp said: OW YEAH, WHITEBEARD IS YOUR OLD MAN?? WANT ME TO COME IN THIS CAGE AND GIVE YOU SOME OF GRANDPA'S FIST OF LOVE, ACE???
Cristian-Esteban Van Oord No it would have been pointless because Garp’s “fist of love” was used to convince him to become a marine but well that was out of the question at this point because of well...... Obvious reasons and the moment was too serious for that sort of humor anyways.
海賊ルフィの話をする爺ちゃん嬉し
そう♪
I can see Whitebeard meeting Roger at the afterlife and saying "Hey Roger, your son hates you and is MY son, how do you feel lmaoooooooo"
Atleast they didn't take my pearls
but they fucked up when Akainu killed you
Well shit, someone kill him
Portgas D. Ace He also killed Whitebeard
J Daniel M Destroy him
Portgas D. Ace Sabo will :D
0:42 even near his death ace can smile thinking about luffy
and garp laugh 😭😭😭
It shows Ace really love garp and Luffy
I AM BATMAN
:D
+McLennan813 :)
I AM GROOT
Damn the feels
When Ace says his father is Whitebeard and no one else.
Ace’s story of his past wasn’t really well shown, but if you think about it, he had a really troublesome past, being surrounded by haters.
It went to the extent that he even questioned his grandfather whether he deserved to live or not.
It’s not Ace’s fault or anyone’s fault. That’s just how it is, and really sad.
Ace will always choose Whitebeard over Roger anyday. Not even Roger will complain about that. Whitebeard is literally the best Father in anime
Garp can be a very kind hearted person if he just allows himself to be :(
Razvan Cazacu he is
@@TheTobirianagentzero, he’s an asshole is what is he is because if he at least spent some time talking and communicating with his family than they wouldn’t have become renowned criminals, but since he’s so dedicated to his job over his own family they’re all criminals because of his own doing.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr to you
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr if luffy and ace were marines there would be no one piece wtf
@@TheTobirianagentzero, the movie featuring Sabo; the episodes after the Timeskip, and the time Luffy destroyed Enies Lobby as well as the time he punched a Celestial Dragon shows that Garp hasn’t done Jack shit to help improve the world of One Piece as well him not doing anything for his family as well.
やっぱ、ワンピースおもろいわぁ、好きや‼️
てか、日本人おる?
おるおる
おらん
0:41 A proud grandfather
Can't believe it's been over 10 yrs. I'm old AF
Garp, you are a good man
I mean i can understand how Ace feels about Roger, the thing that he doesn't own him anything, but to be honest, why does he despise Roger sooo much? It's not like he lived a luxury life and he abandoned his wife and child, he got executed before Ace was born!! So explain to me how the fuck he abandoned Ace!!! But well, i think Ace hates him cause he chose to be a criminal knowing what that meant to his family (wich he didn't have at that time) and the thing that he was a social outcast thanks to his father, but is not like Roger wanted that! He even made Garp promise that he would take care of him!! Before leaving this world, his father made sure that his son could live a "normal and safe" life!! So Ace, before loathing somebody that much, inform yourself!!
... Too late now.
No! His mother didn't die because of Roger! Wtf!! She had a post-partum death, wich is not that strange in some cases, and i could understand Ace if he was a normal civillian, and the fact that he's Roger's son made his life a living hell, but Ace is a criminal too! And remember that at first, only Sengoku and Garp knew about Ace's father, so i don't think that's a good reason either!!!
I mean she had to use her sill power to keep him from being born for like 20 months because of the marines looking for Rodgers family so that's not a normal death
Liviana Dumitru he knew how people thought about roger and they would think the same about ace if they knew they roger was his father thats why he hated him, cause people would hate because of what his father did get your facts right or watch the anime atleast and pay some attention
Liviana Dumitru She died because of Roger.
She died because she prolonged Ace's birth, which is to avoid the search for Roger's child.
So it was because of Roger.
by watching garp, i understand parents more (mine, at least). it's not that they don't want u to be happy with ur own set of dreams, they just want to make sure that u'll be safe and sound in the future.
not that i want to follow them now though lmao i'm kinda like luffy. but i just understand them better.
Ace smiling when Garp talked about Luffy
The flashback + whitebeards deep voice + the soundtrack in the background? = poetic cinema. I LOVE it.
Name of the soundtrack??
This fucking only made me more sad
It's funny how pirates roam around looking for treasure... When the real treasure is the relationships and promises they make to and with others :)
Didn't garp raise the son of a bitch, (forget roger for a minute) saying WB is his old man...and to his face.
Are you taking stupid pills or sumthing?? ...Dedan raised him pretty much lol
Wow...dumb kid is being dumb...
Eni1000G lol... What do you mean by your first comment then??
Peta Matenga Okay,i like your reaction,you don't seem like a troll so i'm gonna give you an answer. First of all Garp saved his life...secondly,I know he wasnt around much but he always visited him and luffy and was the closest of a father figure to him.What did WB do for him?
Okay, im not being a dick, im being genuine k. How did garp save his life?? And no he visited only a couple times for long but mostly short periods im pretty sure (if im wrong then tell me the eps and ill rewatch). Dadan was more of a father figure then Garp lol ... Plus if Ace says that white beards his father, then doesn't that tellyou something?
I think I would like being in whitebeard's crew, I wish he didn't die tho
ace is my favorite character but when you think about it he hates roger because he was the worst criminal and he said whitebeard was his real father wtf whitebeard is one of the worst criminal too XD
It's not just about that. Whitebeard, of his own free will, chose to be a father to Ace and take him in. he treated Ace as though he mattered and gave him a place to belong and to be loved. To Ace, this is everything.
mollerbt it's still sad of you think about it, Gol died before even Meeting Ace
mollerbt
okai dude so what do you think if roger was alive he would be treating ace like garbage ? probably not he didnt have the chance to make some good thing to ace and whitebeard yes ofcourse but still one of the worst criminal.
Akainu would have been a good father to Ace too
Portgas D Ace I think it's a little deeper than that, Ace doesn't have a legitimate reason for hating Roger, the world hates Roger because of the lies told about him by the government and because he was the pirate king. Aces' disdain for his father stems from the pain he feels about what his mother had to go through in order for him to be born. Due to the circumstances that his father was partially responsible for, he had to grow up in a world that hated him (Ace) without both of his parents. Ace is using Roger as a lightning rod to vent his frustrations, but even when they talked bad about Roger he'd still get upset. So he didn't necessarily hate his father, but he resented him for his circumstances.
Garp had the most messy family and entourage xD
His son is a revolutionaire
His grandson want to become pirate king
His adopted grandson want to make WB a pirate ling
His other adopted grandson his 2 commendant revolutionaire
His have marine friends
His friend was the pirate king
If there's one thing the two can agree on, it's that Luffy really is spectacular.
Roger: so white beard, did u ever meet my son?
White beard: ur son calls me daddy.
ワンピースってたぶん、終わったら海軍編はじまるよなw
さらに海軍編→革命家編
it's funny that before the big reveal at marineford, we thought ace was talking about dragon
Seeing ace in the same position roger was in after he promised to take care of him...that's rough, man.
Men who are as old as I am only want one thing. To have a family to love and take care of, this is what i want to, do.
じいちゃん大好きだよ😭😭
0:44 Oh maaan I tear up :,( why did he have to go!!!!
I feel like Garp could've used his sway as "THE hero of the marines" to get Ace something slightly more comfortable in Impel Down. Yes, I am aware of the "hell" that is each and every level of that prison (except the two lowest/highest security levels for some reason) but having handcuffs that weaken/exhaust you holding you in a constantly upright position would be excruciating.
Ace has beautiful voice
ep. 422 ;)
Gol D Roger: *Am i joke to you ace?*
Imagine if ace was dragons son omg whitebeard and dragon would of came marines would of gotten their ass turned inside out
yeah! or imagine luffy being in ace's place, ace would come, which means he would bring the whitebeard crew, dragon would have come along with the army of his(as if he wouldn't be enough) Shanks would have also came along with his crew, Garp wouldn't allow his grandson to be executed either, Hancock would have defended him, His own crew and also every island he has saved would have at least send some help.
GG world government they would get so raped! xD
The Frog King I think he would allow Luffy's execution also, I like to think he cared for both of them equally
i don't think dragon would come. pirates can do whatever they want for a friend in the crew, but the Revolutionary army is of different nature. You can't go challenge the government just for one person's son. That's also the reason why Sabo didn't acknowledge luffy and ace of everything immediately after he got shot. Revolution army is an underground work.
No i think dragon would come even ivankov said it when she though ace was dragons son , she was asking if the goverment was stupid to take on dragon and whitebeard
Shahe Islam yeah you are probably right. he did care for them equally.
Jane Zhang ok but if dragon didn't come to rescue his own son then he would at least make his move to destroy the world government, think about it! it would be the best opportunity to strike, while shanks and whitebeard are holding off the marines he would at Least go the other way and destroy them from there.
Ace: "My old man is Shirohige and no one else."
-Garp... who raised him: "Oh. Ok then. Bye."
"I'D EXPECT LESS FROM MY GRANDSON" 😪 Ace smile
Dragon could not have been an admiral because the navy only knew Garp was his father until late. that theory is squashed. Its as Robin was explaining that they couldn't link this Revolutionary leader to anyone and yet all along... his roots went back to the marine hero Garp . Ace should have hidden his name like Law did instead of taken his mother's first name "Portgas". He still carried the "D". Obviously this was how the Navy traced him back to his parents
Still why couldn't Ace let Garp finish what he was going to say. I'm wondering what Garp was gonna say about Roger
TheMostHighReignsForever personally ace didn't care.
TheMostHighReignsForever it dosen't matter because he was whitebeard's 2nd division commander. He would of got executed anyway.
Rip Ace
Husky Boy Such a waste of life. those 18 months rouge carried him. he was better off been killed as a child. if he had allowed Garp to finish....
Jacob Bailey he wasted all those sacrifices including his mother's
Garp may not approve of them being pirates but he is still proud of them
Their whole relationship is the definition of bitter-sweet.
Oda played us all here letting us think Dragon was Ace's father
epic scene
I LOVE THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THAT IS BEING MADE! THE RAW OR NATURAL ENERGY OF THE SURROUNDINGS MAKES IT MORE GENUINE AND MAKES ONE PIECE A SPECIAL ANIME! WE COULD ALL RELATE TO IT AT SOME POINTS TO IT. ALSO, IT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE. ROGER REALLY CARED FOR HIS SON AND ITS SAD THAT ACE HATED HIM TILL THE DAY HE DIED! SAD STORY BUT IT IS THE TRUTH!
2:18 that look you give your son when he's become part of the Yakuza.
I want to see garp fight with Luffy avenging aces death
I just realized that Ace knew who Luffy's father was!!! Garp didn't say specifically Dragon, but Ace knee who he was talking about!
Garp was in level 6 prison and no one literally no one talking shit to him.
ロジャーのこととは思いもしなかった!
Ace-kun 😭😭😭😭
what?
+Portgas D. Ace uh they have wifi where ever your at ace?
Yeah quite its kinda fast too
I am Batman c;
+Extryva :)
Never!!!!
طاقم قبالة القش
Extryva y you always lying
ضحى النهار
Son of Roger
Raised by Garp
Son of Whitebeard
Brother of Luffy and Sabo
This man got connections for days😂
Ace's voice 😍 😍 😍
Dem feels :'(
Episode 422
Man, I wish you everything you want. You are the best. Thank you!
thanks bruh
Dude how long it took me to find you, thanks!
ace just don't know that luffy the reincarnation of roger . it's like a devil fruit , it will be reborn if the user is dead . and it's passed down since the ancient time . and it reminds me of joyboy .
We all know who Ace sees as his grandpa, though. Don't worry, Garp.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache I literally see you in every One Piece video I though I was the only one with this problem
Hold on... Monkey D Dragon, Monkey D Luffy... Their first names are like last mames, and last first.. ain't it? I never got why it is like this
Monkey D. Is their family name,In Japan the family names are said first.Just like how Zoro's name is Rorona Zoro
Mackenley Desima Ah, gotcha, thanks :)
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Ace's opinion about his father is a great example of how media effects our views on things honestly.. Roger was a great person but he'd never know sadly.
LoL garp grandson taken by 2 yonkou, shanks and shirohige
Why did ace have to die 😭😭
Such clips and others prove that Luffy is really the real deal and well awarded of the main character title.He is much more emotional than most of the pirates in the One Piece world and though he claims to be a pirate , even if he does good things for others , he doesn't want to be called a hero which can be attributed to his burning passion.Luffy also respects the Marines , those who help others the right way and even though he became a pirate he loves his grandfather.Unlike Ace and Sabo , let's be honest it was only natural for them to be closer together since Luffy is Garp's biological grandson and wanted to have a lot of time with his family.Probably in future arcs , Garp will join Dragon's army and they ll search together for Luffy to reunite as one whole big family.Even if it'll initially be hard cause Luffy will tell Dragon that he cannot call himself his father since he abandoned him when he was a newborn baby.Probably thi'll happen sooner after Wano
While Ace whole love from his mother, he had hatred over his father that he prefers Whitebeard had his true father.
Ace died as an admiral levelled character
Que episodio es?
422 creo
Am I the only one who feels Gold Roger should have been luffys dad. More of a resemblance.
Would have been the most obvious, cliche, and predictable thing ever and Oda is none of those.
Matthew Tedla No too cliche.
Although I love Naruto, One Piece is actually well though out
Matthew Tedla And luffy is not a murderer. He will never kill hundreds of men lile roger. (Ace wont be like that too thats why oda made him with whitebeard. WB never kills someone.
The one thing I hate is Ace hating his father without knowing anything about him.
I hope garp will tell ace how great hes father was
Yes he definetly will trust me
I don't get why Ace of all the characters had to die -_- ,,, this is why I dumped One Piece a few years ago (although it got switched with the best anime of all time GINTAMAAAAAAA,, so I dint miss it,, but now since its over.... bk to One Piece)
Mansouri Seif Gintama won best anime of 2015, plus Gintoki (main character) won best anime character 2 yrs in a row in Japan,, plus the voice actor of Gintoki won best voice actor because of playing Gintoki ,, so yeah its more than good, IT'S GREAT!! it deleted all other anime's from my favorite list and took their place
+Mansouri Seif Gintama has an overall concept but no story line, which is why I couldn't get into it somehow.
Gintama only gets good at episode 40 something,, and then gets awesome at episode 60 something,,, then it justs get better and better till it tops any anime you've ever seen... n I've seen A LOT, it beats one piece believe me! it has many concepts, a mixture of history drama comedy parody sci-fi, pirates, politics. It has serious arcs concerning its plot,, and it has random episodes and it has crazy funny arcs... it's amazing, ask any fan of it they'll tell you the same thing as I did, Gintama beats any anime they ever saw!!!
because he is a worthless piece of shit
Ace was a shit character, he didn't have much development, so it didn't really matter