I always thought about how planets are so big that when standing on one, you can't even tell that it's round. I think this can be applied to the universe. It's so big, and we are so small, it's impossible to see what it is. Just like a cell on a human would have no clue what a human looks like if it could see. I always thought the universe was possibly sentient. Planets are basically little cells compared to the entirety of it.
Yeah, that falls into a long held idea in Tao Buddhism. The consciousness we have is a single thing, not exclusive to any one being. So your conscious experience, your friends, strangers, animals, etc. Across all beings, across the entire universe are all one consciousness that belongs to the universe. Alan Watts explains this for western minds very precisely in his lectures. Our conscious experience is just the universe wanting to look itself in the mirror.
EXACTLY. We literally ARE a part of the universe. It's hard to deprogram people from this concept that they are this separate entity and the rest of the universe revolves around them, I guess.
@@TheIncredibleStories Of course we are part of the Universe, but rn we are definitely living separately from other Consciousness life forms, if they exist
Thank god Joe is bringing topics like these to the masses. It’s remarkable how much science and society as a whole ignores/forgets about arguably one of the most important questions of all time
He misses so many points, though. Many many advances throughout history came from the military than he mentions Obama who expanded drone strikes and through countries like Syria, Lybia and Tunesia into anarchy.
It’s very surreal yet comforting at the same time more & more people from all walks of life are not only having these types of conversations but becoming less surprised or shocked by theories like this. Almost normalized.
I was born and raised in Islamic family. In 5 years of time, I, along with my family have transitioned from super conservatism to more conciseness about the reality. I think internet and traveling has a lot of impact on this. This is my experience. And I mean the educational internet, non of that tik-tok shit.
“You are not in the universe, you are the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” - Eckhart Tolle
Find someone else who says it better, Eckhart Tolle evolved from the mad magazine mascot Alfred E Newman and speaks as if his mind is barely moving, you can 2x his videos and still fall 😴
The universe has been awaken for…hundreds of millions of millennia. We are a part of the awakened thing, but we are not awakened. We begin awakening when we realize this and start towards enlightenment. Enlightment isn’t the goal, enlightenment is like slapping a turbo, a new radiator, a new intake, and an intercooler to upgrade but not fundamentally change YOU. Just how you operate, here and there
Yes humans are waking up and recognising their own behaviour. There are 700,000 people on Reddit raised by a narcissistic parent support where they recognise that family scapegoat one child. Recognising that pattern seems to be an ethical shit shift and shift in human behaviour to recognise Family scapegoating. To become conscious they need to recognise the unconscious behaviour in family groups and individuals. To recognise Family scapegoating seems to be the most simple but complex thing to do.
Er, Humans are parts of the Universe. We are not separate from it, we are literally embedded within it. We are entities permissible by the laws of physics, and every atom that makes up a Human is a atom of the Universe. Therefore if humans are conscience, then the Universe is implicitly conscience also. There is no separating Humans from the Universe, they are one in the same.
It's wild how many people in these comments, and on this show, need to explore Hinduism. The entire backbone of Hinduism is the idea of Brahman, that the Universe is the supreme consciousness. -source, I'm Hindu
I love this conversation. Joe is entertaining some serious philosophical talk. Refreshing to see and not difficult to see there is an audience that is waaaay ready to expand their consciousness.
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Well as science advances it's heavily pointing towards intelligent design and not naturalism. We have the wholly Christian concept of the big bang being solidified in 2009. The discovery of DNA, all life based on an immaterial concept information. We have the overwhelming evidence of fine tuning in the universe. The discovery the whole universe and it's 13.8 billions years required just so one earth and humanity can exist in the universe, there is no waste it was all needed and we are largely the earliest life can exist in the universe, the universe is actually very young. And other amazing discoveries such as the quantum holography of genetics and so on and so on. The universe is inherently coherent, this requires a mind behind it, God.
If people are thinking we're conscious and the universe is "catching up" then you're missing the point. Maybe we'll become TRULY conscious once we catch up to the universe.
We are playing the role, but I agree we are products of the universe, so as an extension of the universe we are catching up by finding out as gradually as we humans can might do
@@OnPointFirearms we are definitely of consequence. Mountains are large because they don’t scorn the merest handful of dirt, and the oceans large because they accept the contributions of tiny streams.
I have seen the argument that we are the mental construct of the Universe, so a rippling out of the universe, each a limited view point which enriches the whole viewpoint. Sort of like showing your work in a complex math problem. Each step provides value almost apart from just getting the answer. The why, to the how to the what. Imagine a being that states "I am" and then tried to figure out what it can be. Imagine this as the universe. It splits itself until it can see itself from every possible viewpoint, focussing on every degree within the whole of anything and everything. Example on that. Light and dark or hot and cold are part of the same thing, difference is by degrees. Dark is absence of light, cold absence of heat. We see them as separate, and infinity so, because with our limited minds we can't process it as a whole mentally. But, if you categorize every viewpoint in a "database" then it serves a purpose when put together, quite literally putting infinity together piece by piece. I have seen it suggested that if we are the consciousness of the universe, we are just learning, and we are just learning about what has already happened. Like time is a concept, a focus on a degree rather than the whole. Time is thought to be a man made concept, but if we are potentially the universe's mind, then it would suggest that time is a tool to understand itself. Universe feels and makes things happen. We think and add meaning and value to those feelings. This would also suggest that there is no good or bad. So the "I am" simply "is" rather than "is something specific." The universe is everything, and we are only separate in a grand type of thought experiment that is being done to gain true meaning in "self." Watch Jim Carey's interviews or people who have compiled his stuff to claim he is not "crazy" but waking up to "reality". Now, if Jim is not crazy, and people are waking up to this, if it be true, then we would only be waking up to half truths, because we cannot fathom or grasp a whole truth which encompasses infinity. But why wake at all? Why be concious of the potential fact that we're just a "field of energy dancing for itself?" As Jim explains? Well, I think that if every person is a particle within a multidimensional mental abstraction, then some particles need to know what it is like to know, and some need to know what it is like to "finish" their part. A particle of god, or the universe, is playing out it's role exactly as it should and gets to. I believe the ones that come to such a knowledge are close to finishing their part of the thought experiment. Once finished it returns to the void or the source of everything and becomes like the budist joke "one with everything" having realized it was never separate at all. Meanwhile the rest of us are still playing things out wondering if we are in a Shakespeare comedy or tragedy day to day. I jest a little, however, I actually think these ideas have merit and personally believe it works quite similarly to how I've explained, but on a much more grand and incomprehensible (to a human) way. Certainly fun to think about and makes up for "why bad things happen to good people." Answer = infinity. In infinity everything happens. Like that new movie Anything Everywhere All At Once. Nothing matters in this idea, and at the exact same time everything matters because nothing and something are the same thing diferences are only by degrees. This means a multiverse is real, other lives are real, and quite literally anything you can think of is real somewhere somehow. We just happen to live here and now, and it works within the rules of this particular reality.
amazingly put and you articulated my position entirely. Much love and celebration from Melody in Seattle! Make the self actualization happen- for yourself, others, the world, and the gratitude that comes with that knowledge by the universe itself
Joe seriously needs to have *Bernardo Kastrup* on his podcast. Kastrup's take on consciousness is what we all need. Kastrup basically argues that in the same way your brain is what your consciousness looks like, the inanimate universe as a whole is the 2nd person perspective of consciousness.
What a load of bullshit. You people speak in such complicated and big words that delude stupid people that it is possible to have conscience and intelligence emerge in a world with no creator behind it. No matter how much you complicate or try to spin it, even an idiot knows that this is lunacy. You cannot have a world filled with intelligent sentient conscious beings without a creator God behind this. Stop running after your worldly hedonistic desires and submit to the One Almighty Creator God, who was not born and does not give birth.
Pseudo science, science is naturally pseudo, it’s hear say through thought. Perception, this is more so a philosophy than anything. Everything has a cosmic consciousness when it’s apart of life. Atoms to the giants who roamed earth millions of years ago. See how that sounds? We don’t know anything beyond ourselves and what we think is real, true or false. It all falls back on what we think. It is nothing special, If we get a chance to share ideas with other species (aliens). In that time we’ll have a better grasp on life, and consciousness. But overall I think the universe has life, otherwise it wouldn’t have created it. Is it per say conscious? Idk, ask how they feel, lol. Almost like talking to god, just not all that there. We are lucky our universe even made us to perceive these moments.
You guys should check out the *Theories Of Everything* podcast with Curt J. THAT is the place for deep discussions about consciousness done in a fantastic format with the kind of follow-on questions you'd hope for. Highly recommended over JRE for these deeper ponderings.
Except, out of all the life that we know of here on Earth, Humans are the only ones that we know of that have made it out into space, under our own volition... So, not very "tiny", in that sense. And as far as physical size, well Hell, there is a LOT smaller than us.
@@StanHowse so if a quantum particle to a human is as small as a human brain to the Universe, isn't the answer quite obvious? We looks at the Universe and the Universe does look back at us!
Alan Watts nailed it. We are the universe observing itself. Apertures of light. Also the famous Freeman Dyson said and I will paste it here. This is what he is getting at. “It is remarkable that mind enters into our awareness of nature on two separate levels. At the highest level, the level of human consciousness, our minds are somehow directly aware of the complicated flow of electrical and chemical patterns in our brains. At the lowest level, the level of single atoms and electrons, the mind of an observer is again involved in the description of events. Between lies the level of molecular biology, where mechanical models are adequate and mind appears to be irrelevant. But I, as a physicist, cannot help suspecting that there is a logical connection between the two ways in which mind appears in my universe. I cannot help thinking that our awareness of our own brains has something to do with the process which we call "observation" in atomic physics. That is to say, I think our consciousness is not just a passive epiphenomenon carried along by the chemical events in our brains, but is an active agent forcing the molecular complexes to make choices between one quantum state and another. In other words, mind is already inherent in every electron, and the processes of human consciousness differ only in degree but not in kind from the processes of choice between quantum states which we call "chance" when they are made by electrons.”
I love that sentiment, I always used to say that the universe is the closest thing to a God that exists and is known and that God is in every single one of us as we are the universe's way of observing itself. The universe gives us meaning and in turn we give the universe meaning. I am not a theist in any way shape or form but it's nice to have something to believe in :)
One thing I tend to think about regarding this discussion is Carl Jung’s idea of “individuation.” Basically, individuation is the self achieving wholeness as a result of marrying opposite things together (the conscious and unconscious mind for example). What if the emergence and development of life is the universe’s attempt at seeking individuation?
There is about 700,000 individuals on Reddit her waking up to being raised by narcissistic personality disorder parent and experiencing family scapegoating patterns of abuse. I’m not sure what conscious that is waking up but it’s waking up some and recognise pattern in humans. Which suggests humans have been largely unconscious of their own behaviour. Redditt technology narcissistic abuse something is waking humans up to recognise patterns in behaviour
The so-called "natural laws" of the universe, the course of nature, its tendency to turn entropy into order, those are CLEAR indications of the unconscious part of the universe manifesting itself. The universe isn't traditionally conscious because it doesn't have cognition, it doesn't think, but that doesn't mean it isn't alive. The collective psyche of life forms the conscious part of the universe.
Love the idea of chaos being an outward expression of a system demanding change. That is a fantastic way to think about and approach the “problems” in every aspect of our world. Brilliant.
but what perception of chaos? To me the animated is the chaos and the inanimate is order. If the universe could observe itself, would it wonder what the hell is up with all this stuff going on in these random specks all over me.
I wondering, is consciousness and soul the same if so, could it be animism since all we know of in existence is matter and where could it be at that experience the life?
The universe didn’t give us consciousness, through time and randomness, evolution crated life. Life wasn’t given, it was created randomly. Btw the universe isn’t a thing, it’s just a name for the group of all things.
We have a tendency to focus on the physical while being conscious. Most of what we analyse and debate on is somewhat verifiable through “physics” bound to the physicality. We know consciousness is there as we experience it, but we yet have to understand and maybe accept that it could be part of everything else.
The problem with that is we all experience consciousness differently. And it's no quantifiable it can't be measured so modern science turns there noses at it. I'm sure as we progress as a society both technologically and spiritually consciousness will be given a second chance. Just look at all the study they are doing with psychedelics
When I was a kid in school I always was shocked of images showing the universe as this series of objects rotating and moving through space looked so similar to designs of a living organisms brain with connections and structure looking similar. Made me wonder if we are just very small organisms living inside something much larger then the universe. And that heat death of the universe is inevitable because the organism we are inside eventually has to die.
So how do they reconcile complexity with entropy ? Evolution whether driven by purpose or not is clearly not following entropy... nor is an ever complexifying cosmos, rhe two are irreconcilable...Even if you say that somehow entropy causes complexity through chaos, ill point out that its still no longer entropy if novelty contunies to occur...
I'll say it again. I think the natural human response, without outside influence, to realizing our own existence would be "I'm here, there must be something else out there" rather than "I'm here, there's no way there other life elsewhere"
Humans are too complex, I think life is a complete miracle and that people who assume there has to be life out there because we are here are ignorant to how special we really are.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 I don't disagree that our concious life is a miracle but everything in our living world is immensely complex... I think part of the challenge of our evolution or ascension is figuring out whether we are more special than other lifeforms, or if we are simply one of many.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 The fact that we are here, regardless of any subjective assessment you have regarding our "complexity", is itself proof that we live within a universe and under a set of natural laws that provide for our emergence and existence. IF those laws are in fact universal (as they appear to be) then there is no reason to assert there is something "special" about our particular existence. True, we may well find that the emergence of the particular configuration of matter that constitutes life might be vanishingly rare (something we've yet to determine) but at present there's no reason to assert miracles are required when the principles that appear to govern the totality of our universe are sufficient.
I’ve thought about this many times. That the universe could be a living organism. It intrigues me how much solar systems are like atoms. With a nucleus (sun) at the centre with electrons (planets) orbiting that nucleus and most of the atom is made up of empty space. Same as a solar system. What if the solar systems are atoms and we are part of the make up of atoms in a living organism. I need to lie down just thinking about it lol
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@@Ddub1083 exactly yeah there is another model called string theory (don't know if it is related to the main one people think about) where they are modelled as strings with various amounts of notches in it like a guitar.
the basics of atoms which you learn is school is not correct it's just easier to explain to a 12y.o. child especially when the information is likey to be never used.
@@chrisatcgh string theory is the theory that different types of matter are composed of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. not sure what notches you mean.
For me the universe is the original conscious and split it’s self up into separate conscious to converse/debate/hurt/love with itself. To experience all things first hand as it’s better than learning through a 3rd party. Which is why we forget our past lives when we’re born and pass our trauma/mistakes onto our children so each child has the best chance to make a mistake and learn from it.
Seems like the universe is just a useful model to contextualize our perceptual experiences, but its not reality. Atoms, molecules, neurons and such are reconstructions of what is actually there according to our model of a space-time universe, but its just a useful mode that got us along through natural selection. It completely leaves out anything fundamental because what is fundamental is not useful, simplified models of fundamental reality optimize for information that is useful to increase our fitness, to ensure that this biological structure will survive and pass on its genes, not so that we consciously perceive this all accurately.
It's insane to see us, conscious beings, (the universe and existence personified, literally) ask ourselves if we are conscious while exercising consciousness.
Ppl always see themselves as something that was dumped into nature rather than seeing it from the perspective that they are in fact nature itself. We are the universe, not things separate from it. You've already arrived and its impossible to separate from the existence and universal systems around you. "We are the universe becoming aware of itself". One of my favorite facts about this whole thing
Well, i can't see how pointing that can be useful. I mean, what does that change when we refer about the universe meaning just a big number of rocks and gasses and N-word holes, from referring about it as everything alive and not?
I think the universe is already conscious, in it's own way. And that we are the natural by-product. Operating on an infinitely smaller scale, so that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal. There is probably other life out there that we cannot comprehend, but which itself is part of the bigger picture.
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“So that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal” - we as humans are parts that might make something larger than us whole or better improved, well said!
The universe is consciousness. Well its extension of that consciousness. Not religious but the bible says " we were made in gods image ". It should be " we were made in gods imagination. The universe is/was thought into existence by "god". God is source consciousness. The consciousness that thought all this into existence. We are piece of that consciousness. Along with every other thing in existence. Even inanimate objects we've made. We give then energy and thought them into existence just like creation did with us. Its all a loop🙏 I died briefly from a heroin overdoses. My world got flipped on its head. I had a " spiritual awakening " to put it simply. During that time, I think I'm going crazy. I want some type of proof that the universe is alive and I got it.. The double slit experiment. This experiment more less demonstrates that our conscious observation has an effect on reality. Thats in part because this thing is to remain the unknown. We learned something, we looked to see the thing we knew, now the universe had to expand, evolve again to be the unknown. Almost every answer we seek is in front of us all🙏 Im not claiming to have all the answers, or any. I just known this life means to me, and I spent a lot of time dissecting this experience. Love you all🙏 The universe is already conscious. Its just slowly developing a voice To tell us shut the fuck up and look at what's around us. That development is the natural evolution of this experience and I think its purpose is oush foward/slap the people who can't believe we're more than these physical bodies without god coming down and literally slapping them in the face. Thats him just starting walking down here basically to show the sceptics , yes i am alive. A lot of people need god to come down from the clouds to believe, and thats what he's doing/ thats what this is. 🙏 Thats probably the " return of Christ " the bible speaks about as well. The return of the children of god, to knowing/feeling a relationship with creation just like " the son " jesus. Thats the holy Trinity. The father " god ", the son ( or sons ) the holy teachers who came to life to teach us to know god before we could see him, and the holy spirit- the piece of god in us/ the yearning in all of us to know god, know that there's more to this life, know what comes next etc. The only thing real is consciousness everything else is an extension of that consciousness. Energy doesn't just feast to exist right? It disperses almost like it lives and life of its. God is the energy that precedes/propelled the big bang🙏
We are quite literally made of stardust and therefore, we are the Universe experiencing itself. The Universe and consciousness eminate from divine source (namely God or Buddha etc) and have always gone hand in hand. All life has been created by design to aid the processing of ideas and development of the Universe and are fed by Universal consciousness. But we’re also here to have an amazing time 😉👍🏻
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This dude is like the missing link between hard science and spirituality. He doesnt know that, but what he has observed from the physical world 100% jives with the theory of the Law of One. He's so close...The universe - reality itself is indeed conscious. Its more important than we realize. Its how we will one day traverse the vast distances of space.
I have read that whistle blowers who have worked on back-engineering UFOs, say that there are no physical controls, only a chair and a screen and that the pilot steers it telepathically. Does that make sense to you?
This bag of flesh is just spouting off nonsense using his little pea brain. We humans cannot understand the universe. We don't have the capacity for shit. We've got a long way to go.
I've always thought that problems we have in our world are caused by a lack of consciousness of ourselves in relationships to the world. Like we have issues with anxiety now a days and we blame it on a lot of things in the world but what about asking if we individually aren't doing what we should be doing? It's easy to say your anxious because of the problems in the world it's harder to say your anxious because your not living your life right?
Yes, this is what Carl Jung would say more or less, anxiety is like a compass shoeing you what you might need to change. Sometimes it’s extremely overwhelming and painful so it makes sense to surpress it somewhat, but that pain is your body and mind telling you “something is wrong” and guess what? That means something IS wrong! I have a panic disorder since last year and it has taught me incredible lessons in how I should live my life. I was having panic attacks because my life was so unbelievably out if balance and growing in the wrong direction, therapy is allowing me to get in touch with what I actually need to do and that is improving my life long struggle with anxiety. Don’t ignore it, don’t bombard it with benzos and other drugs, do what you can to reach homeostasis and then search for what the right direction is.
Yes as the video says naturally things become more complex as time goes on. As do we, we seek solution through doubt and blame and other symptomatic human behaviors and like all other illnesses we treat the symptom rather than taking action towards the problem or goal. We should strive to have a hive like mentality, synchronize the individual mindset for the progression of humanity. Are rates have slowed.
@@soupypoo "We should strive to have a hive like mentality" this is absolutely the opposite of complexity and is not the future. The future is ever increasing diversity (not in the woke sense, I mean real diversity), think of the human psyche as an extension of the microbiome idea, each individual is like a microbe in a massive fractal ecosystem where each incredibly unique point of consciousness contributes to a larger system of consciousness, it's not a "hive mentality" like that one rick and morty episode. If you look back in history, humans started out in very unconscious, intuitive lifestyles where the individual means little, as humanity emerged out of nature and started to separate itself like a flower emerges from it's previously leafy stem, we move towards increased individuality and separation, which is complexity.
Popa Wu said “Everything you see always has been and always will what be” I was like 15 I think and those few seconds of him explaining the universe made so much sense to me suddenly
Some time ago I had this same idea or "ephiphany" about our role in th universe: We can methaphoricly say that sentient beings (as we), are the neurons of the universe, same as a human neuron can "hold an idea" and we sometimes strugle to make up our own mind about something that happen to us, humans communicate (like neurons) to make this "collective mind" work.
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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves Here's Tom with the weather"
I love this clip. Feel like the guest is channeling Terrence McKenna at 5:21 when he says “cosmic attractor”.. looks we’re on course to witness the intersection of science and spirituality. Interesting how Joe played the role of skeptic whilst the scientist almost sounded religious.
I did 5G of mushrooms blindfolded, the universe told me our purpose was creation. That our ideas take on a life force of their own and our purpose was to bring thoughts into fruition
To answer the question of what the purpose is of expanding consciousness, one must understand what’s beyond the universe. But I think that, in and of itself, just points to the reason- it expands *because* there is something beyond us, and the boundaries of what we know exists or could exist. Maybe beyond what is even tangible.
@@justincase1853 well to be fair he is trying to reduce the complexity of infinite space and what it entails in relation to counsciousness in order to have a discussion about it.
@@FrenchCanadianGuy May be referring to the metaphysical, spiritual or esoteric principles that could potentially be acknowledged in these explorations
My theory: the universe knows it's going to retract, so it created us to technologically advance enough to prevent it from ending. Just like how a living body has blood cells that repair it and fight off germs.
What about all of the black holes that are sucking in the universe? What is their purpose do you suppose? And then there's white hole theory where the matter from the black hole is thrust out into a new universe? I personally believe that we are living in a simulation and the creator of the laws that govern the universe is observing their creation through our experiences.
The clip got me thinking and I got a few questions to ask. Please give me some insight. 1. Who's to say that the universe isn't a living organism? It's its own self contained ecosystem. That seems to evolve. 2. Why aren't we the only living thing in the universe? Without the invention of time travel, wormholes, or any time and space warping technology. With distance in mind wouldn't another civilization already be extinct? More like we all just living in a place in time. 3. Who's to say that conscious escapes the universe in the 1st place? Maybe that's also self contained as well as everything else.
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The "goal" of Universe / Creation / Source - is to know itself through experiencing every possible scenario. It is achieved by division to individual consciousness called Souls and giving them free will to create their experiences on their own terms.
We need to separate consciousness / our energy / soul from the material reality (the Universe). Our material reality seems to be fixed / managed by sets of algorithms and coding (DNA). Somehow our conscious mind, energy, observation affects the projection of this reality. People say life feels like a video game, and they probably aren’t totally wrong about that. It’s like a simulation or holographic reality, experienced as real reality and with consequences (dying and many say there’s a review of what we did during our life here). Then we return to Source, the energy source, outside our dimensional reality. It’s a new state of being, of conscious awareness. NDE and OBE experiencers often say they felt WAY more alive outside of body than inside it. I can attest to this too. I’ve had two powerful OBEs and I’m convinced of this now.
Physical matter has never been demonstrated to behave algorithmically. Your founding assumption upon which you base your dualistic perspective is flawed. Quantum mechanics predicts (correctly) that matter is fundamentally unpredictable/deterministic. Hence reality is absolutely unknowable. Is there *really* any difference between awareness of experience and that which experiences? "What am I?", you should ask yourself. Perhaps you'll discover why God's name is I Am That I Am. I suspect you have asked the above and, from your comment, you have likely intuited why He is Named such.
It seems irrational to admit that the universe seems to have a goal using only physics to explain it. The chances of this type of complexity happening by accident is infinity to 1. God and science can both exist
Right, who says they can't. As a Muslim I've never had this problem with religion and science. Science is a just tool thats tells us about the natural world but its limited in it's scope, it can only go so far
The idea that something came nothing, or that consciousness randomly developed out of particles-atoms-amino acids.. is completely ridiculous and unscientific. Thinking it is all coincidence is a sign of an egotistical and polluted mind. God exists.
@@ApolloDeRothschild as far as what actually exists in the natural world. The moment you start making up things about a supernatural world outside of this one you're no longer in the realm of science, likely not even in the realm of reality..
@@Thezuule1 the scientific method involves the questioning of our perception of reality and then testing the hypothesis. So far science has conceeded the the concept of a higher consciousness is not fantasy and they are proving it using the laws of the universe. Now the question comes back to who or what wrote the laws of the universe, and mathematically speaking, the chances of it being random sounds more like a fantasy than there being a designer
@@THEREALAKRINIM 💯 and firas zihabi has this great quote about randomness he says there's no such things as randomness its just an expression for our ignorance cause a being that knows everything to it nothing is random referring to Allah(the diety)
"The Universe, " is just an atheists way of trying to comprehend our existence. Then, they inevitably come to the conclusion that, "The Universe," has a conscience, and created us!? Sounds a lot like a higher power.
If the universe has a consciousness, then it's a "higher power" the same way you're a higher power compared to the cells in your body. Also, we're emergent properties of the universe, it didn't "create" us.
Once a person understands themselves, then one finds God. Then the universe can be seen through the lens of wholeness, and the human endeavor is seen as a spiritual intelligence test.
What do you mean by "higher power"? There are many different views of what a higher power is. Someone who believes in God would view a higher power as an intelligence that created everything, that is hands-on to the point that praying to God may result in a change to a perceived coming outcome, that so loves and cares for the "lower power" beings (because if there is "higher" then there must be "lower") that there's a all-joyous afterlife waiting for those lower power beings who follow the rules of God. On the other hand, an atheist may view a "higher power" as a power greater than themselves that is not fully understood, has a certain hands-off approach to creation in terms of everything being set into motion at the start of the universe, and has no caring of lower power beings to the point that there is no afterlife to look forward to, and if lower power beings such as humans, destroy themselves and go extinct, then the higher power will simply keep going, perhaps to an inevitable end predicted by the lower power beings (you know, such as when all the stars burn out and the universe stops expanding and simply grows cold and everything ends). So, I don't think an atheist would be talking about God when referring to a universe that appears to show consciousness. Maybe what we recognize as the consciousness of the universe is no different than looking up into the sky and recognizing the shape of a bunny in the clouds. Is it really a bunny, or is it simply a cloud that, from our limited perspective, currently holds a shape that we recognize as a bunny?
@@GuillRickard emergent properties of the universe sounds similar to created in God’s image. The Bible talks about humans being God’s bride and how the ‘two shall become one’. People when they die have visions of a bright light drawing them to it while incredible feelings of love, acceptance and belonging flood their senses. Like being drawn home. God calls himself ‘I Am’ in the Bible multiple times which sounds like a declaration of consciousness. There are just a lot of parallels here. Rogan talks a lot about LSD being something like a portal for our consciouses to travel and meet other beings, Angels, Demons, Aliens. My point is that the only real difference between the Universe you’re describing and the ‘Higher Power’ others are describing is maybe it’s ability or lack thereof to love. At least the ability to love mere humans. That seems like a small difference when it comes to scientific standards. If consciousness is turning out to be more than simply a chemical reaction that occurs only in the human brain then maybe love is too.
yes but i think what hes saying is that as we and any other conscient form of life grows and expands its sort of connecting the vast universe together even if right now its at its infancy. like his internet example, first it was mail , then phones, then tv, now internet. the world is now pretty much connected or online 24/7. so before if a tragedy happened in the middle of a foreign country maybe only locals would have experienced it. but now the world as a whole is experiencing these activities as one. for example we are all sort of watching whats going with russia and ukraine as one world population getting updated by the minute. as we expand to a different part of space and that connects to this earth now there will be two planets connected as one. with possibly billions other life forms doing this the universe is connecting into one "being". idk if any of that made sense lol. also joe is showing the ego thing he was attempting to criticize because he is separating us as if WE are not part of the universe. we are as much the universe as a blackhole or super nova. so us being conscience is the universe being conscience although I don think that's what the speaker meant. i think the speaker meant what I mentioned above.
I’d say the fact we are consciousness created by the universe means the laws of the universe that binds us to this world flows through us and is a medium for one thing to perceive itself.
The Universe is already 'conscious,' or more specifically, it's an unbroken field of consciousness. Call it god, the source of all being, the supreme reality, the one life underlying all of creation, etc. Humans are not "one of the driving forces" in this field, but simply a part of it. It is the human ego that deludes one into believing they are separate from it, or can have control over it.
@@nighthawk0077 Not a gut feeling. Direct unitive knowledge through the practice of meditation. Millions throughout the ages have experienced it. Don't take my word for it. I wouldn't either. Anything beyond that is simply faith or belief, and I'm not interested in that. Those who achieve this unified state, the Buddha simply says, have done what has to be done. They have fulfilled the purpose of life.
@@zyrrhos Again not saying I disagree or can prove you wrong, but you must also be open to the possibility this is simply a built-in function of the human mind under certain conditions. It could in fact be that you are reaching or communicating with the source, or it could be a pre programmed illusion.
@@nighthawk0077 Programmed by whom? A noisy divided mind is incapable of seeing things as they really are. The still mind is its natural state. It is the most absolute truth I know. Everything else is illusion.
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Blessings and gratitude Joe! Thank you for this exchange. It's fundamentally important to remember all has their own views on what life is what the heck are we doing here and why why why!?. I'd like to add, all on this planet have cosmic consciousness. In this perception of though, and thought has a huge part of consciousness and that is life all life exists even your instruments you use on your set is alive. So with this thought, the universe has always been alive it is us as a people who never had the perceptual awareness due to how we have been raised over time and not nearly enough information and toxins and illegal limitations to express and meet your inner cosmic awareness.In one thought leads to many more. Keep on your journey and know your on the right path and exploring all levels of inner awareness is the quickest way to become one though this doorway...it's all beautiful and all will be reveals very soon. Consciousness is alive and our earth is alive the biosphere is alive and we all work together. each planet has this unique life force and we as humans are ending a cycle, were evolving as the earth is. We are everywhere and human life is on many many planets throughout our Solar system and universal grids. It's time we all come together as a whole to unite as one collective called Earthly humans and open space for meeting our cosmic relatives because it's happening weather we hold onto fear or not....trust in infinite creation..it surrounds us and let's see collectively were we all can rise too....a new world is coming...and infor one am extremely excited for this evolution of our beloved planet and home we call EARTH. Adonai 💙🙏🌠
The single mind connected by the internet really stood out to me as someone who works in IT. We have neurons in our brains connected by pathways. What if we are the human equivalent of that same system on a much larger scale and the internet is that pathway for us. We can then scale it up even more and think of planets as neurons connected within the galaxy using a system we are yet to understand
Rupert Sheldrake's work on morphic fields and morphic resonance blew my mind back in 2013 when I fordt started reading about it. The concept of Attractors and Chreodes (I think that's how it's spelled) are present in all processes and tend to repeat themselves over time.
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One of my friends who isnt fond of philosophical questions gets very annoyed at the suggestion that, as conscious entities ourselves, and being of the universe, that we are the universe's consciousness. His reasoning is that it isnt pragmatic information, and there is no way to get a definitive answer outside of our own definitions of words. Personally, questions and ideas like this are extremely fun to think about and consider. Its a creative intellectual lens that puts a lot of life into perspective. Not to say pragmatic science is not creative or intellectual mind you.
I would ask your friend, what exactly would the universe gaining consciousness look like, if not humans? From a perspective outside of our universe, a portion of molecules and protons and electrons came together to record, measure, and chronicle the rest of them. Why is this practical information? Our drive to understand the world around us is directly linked to advances in technology. Although this is a baseless anthropomorphization of the universe, Its eerie to me that the universe seems to incentivize and 'want' us to understand it.
10:30 What he's saying is there'll be more instances of life forming on planetary bodies therefore more concious life popping up across the universe just like we did.
@@jamesscottvideos imagine saying that, I bet youre some1 who believes if a group of monkeys got together and began writing random words, eventually they'd pen a Shakespearean novel. After all, at a given point, mathematically , it have to happen law of averages right? No. Absolutely not, anyone who says this, regardless of however impressive their credentials, they are either a total dumbass or they are lying to you.
@@jamesscottvideos We as individuals already have a conciousness. Us humans are already concious. If we were to ever make contact with another planet with another lifeform we'd have a concious connection with them. What if we then made yet another connection... and another... and another? Eventually we'd be linked in a network with other life forms just like our neurons (or our cosmetic web is connected). It's fractals on an unimaginable scale.
@@devilsposterboy created universal conciseness shatters into fragments that slowly find each other and rebuild the pieces into the whole, to be shattered again, maybe more fragmented the next time
@@devilsposterboy The universe began at the "Big Bang." Space and time didn't exist before it, at that moment. Of course, IF it is a "bubble" universe, among others, there's more to the story.
I'm about to be 35 years old on Sunday and I think about stuff like this all the time. (Usually when I'm trying to sleep and let me tell you, it is not a good way for you to try and get a decent amount of sleep.) - Are we really just soulless bags of walking meat? And life just ends once we die? - If the Big Bang created the universe, what created the Big Bang? - If there was a creator of the Big Bang, what was their ultimate goal? And where did they come from? - Is there such a thing as collective consciousness, where all living beings meld together through life and death? As someone who was raised Roman Catholic and is a literal past Grand Knight and 4th Degree member of the Knights of Columbus, the answer to most of these questions is, "God." At least, that's what I've been told. But I still struggle with this concept since I'm an intellectual who has thoughts (I at least like to think of myself as an intellectual) and there are certain questions where the uncertainty of said questions bothers me. I guess that's why we call it, "The Mystery of Faith." This was a fantastic segment, Joe.
I'm right there with you man, I recently just turned 36 and myself delve into these thoughts mostly at night. I love hearing different points of view on this subject and just try to make a somewhat educated guess of what this all means, but I'm constantly learning. You would think that taking all types of information from a bunch of different sources would make it easier, but it doesn't. Sometimes I wish I could go back to how life was before I started asking why, it was a much simpler and carefree time.
Scientists believe the universe is all one big cycle. It gets larger and larger until the universe is barren (much like before the big bang) with nothing but energy and dying black holes. Eventually another Big Bang will spark the existence of the next universe. Of course this is billions upon billions of years of time before this happens but it does make sense.
"Do we think the universe is conscious? Does it have a conscious intent?" Perhaps it does. Perhaps it's only through its own will that any of this exists-including a world full of beings that can continually reproduce themselves, serve as their own perpetual energy source, and use time and randomness to automatically adapt to the changing, chaotic nature of existence.
I can't help but notice the absence of a single definition or evidence... It might be helpful to first define that which your supposition hinges on. Hopefully he managed it at some point in the full conversation - otherwise he might as well be talking about crystal lore.
I haven't listened to this interview yet, but if you're looking for scientific take on this, check out 'The Self Aware Universe' written by a PhD in astro physics. In it, he explains how the paradoxical behaviors observed from particles at the quantum level are best explained by the supposition that the material world is created from consciousness.
The only evidence we can produce through the scientific method is by measuring matter, which will not help us in this case. We know that matter has never been measured or observed outside of consciousness. All our conclusions about matter assume we can just ignore the influence of the filter through which we perceive it. If you are interested in these things I suggest looking up Bernardo Kastrup, he makes the best case for non-dualism and idealism in the tradition of Plato and Schopenhauer.
Everything is conscious, its just on a spectrum of complexity. Consciousness is just a function of one thing reacting functionally to something else in a system of change. Humans sit somewhere on this spectrum of functional complex change battling entropy forever in a game. There is no demarcation between being conscious and not, we have drawn a line based on our own self perceived importance. The universe has always been "awake".
Thank you for your comment @@jackryan7312. I would also like to entertain a thought experiment concerning the "Self" &"Memory" . I would argue that the "Self", or the awareness you are experiencing right now that is accessing your brain's memories creates the illusion that you have always been Jack Ryan and you will only ever be Jack Ryan. The reason for this is that you (the sense of being and "self" when you strip away everything that is an additional mental component on top of that) are only ever accessing the host's memories that your awareness currently accesses and resides in at any instantiation point in Spacetime. Yesterday you could of been me but you woke up today thinking you've always been Jack Ryan. This awareness 'switch' or 'swap' may mean you're Joe Rogan tomorrow. Even if you make the time frequencies between these swaps faster and faster with your awareness swapping every hour, or every nanosecond, the memory will still always keep the illusion of being that same person or whatever being you can imagine in the Universe. We may as human beings have the capability to access this Universal shared memory (shared drive if you like) and therefore start to see that we are all "One" - perhaps this mental unity will increase our collective empathy for one another and provide us all as 'individuals' with a better world to live in...
@@willhayes3095 Interesting theory! Have you had any experiences that have led you to believe in such a world view? You might enjoy this - "Is consciousness necessarily unified? Some thinkers (Descartes and Kant, for example) have argued that some sort of unity is a deep and essential feature of consciousness. On this view, the conscious states of a subject are necessarily unified: it is impossible for there to be a subject whose conscious states are disunified. On the other side, some thinkers (e.g. Nagel 1971) have argued that the unity of consciousness can break down. On this view, there are cases (especially neuropsychological cases, such as those involving patients with split brains) in which a subject's states of consciousness are disunified. Some (e.g. Dennett 1992) hold more strongly that consciousness is often or usually disunified, and that much of the apparent unity of consciousness is an illusion." "How can the unity of consciousness be explained? If consciousness really is unified, and especially if it is necessarily unified, then it is natural to look for an explanation of this fact. What is it about consciousness that yields this unity? Is unity a primitive feature of consciousness, or is it explained by something deeper? Further, the unity of consciousness may put strong constraints on a theory of consciousness. If consciousness is necessarily unified, then a correct theory of consciousness should at least be compatible with this unity." Source: What is the Unity of Consciousness? Tim Bayne and David J. Chalmers Department of Philosophy University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721. [[Published in A. Cleeremans (ed.), The Unity of Consciousness: Binding, Integration, Dissociation (Oxford, 2003).]] consc.net/papers/unity.html
@@jackryan7312 yes I like this. I studied Philosophy at University but work in IT...This probably explains why I think about this too much. I read hard science as an interest on the side. I have had both subjective and objective results personally and with another person in regards to consciousness and communication. I have witnessed phenomena I can't explain. I really didn't think much about these experiences being real on reading or hearing about them, that was until I started to dig deeper and see for myself.
@@jackryan7312 I'm also starting to think of our 3D space as just an illusion more and more, which then brings me back again to the singularity question of Spacetime and our consciousness. I see our experience of 3D space in the same way a computer character sees their given format of 3D space in a simulation. So even though a character is running from point a to point point b in the game, they are really going 'nowhere' on the 2D plain on which they are being repsented. We are just experiencing a particular format, or User interface, of actual reality...whatever that really looks like.... Everything exists because it is being 'observed' and represented via an infinite repetitive iterative chain of assymmetric representations/copies/clones... When you look at reality's constant, which is relative change, you start to see reality as just a constant dirty, or imperfect copy, of itself. If it replicated perfectly then it wouldn't by definition be a copy because it would the same thing... I see change in terms of frequencies that are spiral rather than perfectly circular in their rotational "symmetry". So when I look at the electromagnetic spectrum's peaks and troughs moving forward in a given direction, I see that I can draw a spiral tunnel in my mind...So light is bound by a spiral dimension which again puts me back in the assymmetric rotation thought process..A spiral is a circle with imperfect rotational symmetry as its angle keeps changing... I then think that angular momentum has something to do with getting around not having a huge mass to warp spacetime...I think about this tooooo much
When you take acid or shrooms you get this we are all one feeling. Seems like it's maybe true that we literally are all one. Not metaphorically or symbolically, actually one. Forces of good we need your help! Please share light to us all, we don't need dark balance we have too much of that let the love in! its time for the light!
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mushrooms might be far more important than we think you ever watched “fantastic fungi” it seems the mushroom roots (mycelium) might be the brain of life on the planet. mycelium runs through the ground almost everywhere. the more life there is the more mycelium there is, forests for example are usually completely sitting in a big pile of mushroom roots.
It is consciousness. As you develop your own consciousness, along with billions of others, that further develops, deepens or flavours the universes’ many facets of awareness. Beyond comprehension yet you may experience it. I love it’s large scale fractal blueprint for neuron connections in the brain. Gorgeous!
@Avery Breaux except that the Bible accurately defines sin, rebellion toward God and if you seek, truly, you will find. That’s all true, that’s how I know it’s real. I’ve seen it in living proof in my life.
Some scientist once claimed Universe works on a highly complex math equation. I myself believe in thinking in probabilities as a means of creating realities, like 'what are the odds of me thinking this and it happening just now' highly unlikely right but yes, probable. What I think is if the majority of us like me, after watching this video have made up their mind about the universe getting conscious with life, congratulations we have just created 'the' reality and the gravity of it may soon attractive space and time to bring it into our disposal!
I think we need to start with the singularity, of which the universe emerged. It seems to me, that point of infinite density and gravity, was one single thing. It still is, in a sense, one single thing, because when the Bang occurred, it was not an explosion, (as a bang infers), but an expansion, of that one single thing. Science acknowledges that the expansion created space itself. On the other hand, if it had been an explosion, it would have exploded into surrounding space. So 13.7 billion years later, it is still one single thing, which appears to us as many things. Personally, I think there may be conscious, and spiritual implications to this, which hint at something grand, beyond our comprehension.
I think about possibility of God through the lens of “the infinite God” .. so many things about God are starting to align with what we know about the universe through science.
I’m in agreement, to a certain extent. Each of us is the so-called “Big Bang” and we are all simply looking into ourselves- the infinite grand design of our universal expansion- from innumerable vantage points. Within each of our innumerable incarnations of various forms we experience various points of awareness from these innumerable vantage points with the help of the bodily form and it’s senses- the brain acting as a sort of reducing valve and transistor. Hens, as our awareness becomes expanded, we become increasingly aware of the unlimited expansion of our universal-self and all of the various points of awareness.
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I have a feeling Joe has experienced the universal conscience from within and knows very well they're a few conciousness out there way more develope than ours and that the fact that we're slow to learn is making us fall behind the universal evolution of consciousness, we should be know as Omnisapiens at this stage on earth's lets say ''plan'' and be working at a level of efficiency way higher than we're used to. Would love to have a chat with Joe about this even if is off the air.
Slow to learn compared to what? Private gods? If humans can be accused of anything, its learning things too quick. We accrue knowledge we can't contextualise and use it to affect things without understanding how that knocks on in a grander scale. You'd need gigantic system changes to change that aspect of human nature. Individuals would have to live much longer to able to organise said knowledge in a helpful way. We'd have to be able to store and contextualise petebytes of data to accurately map causal chains etc. We're simply limited by our biology and its unreasonable to argue that we're slow to learn. Especially when you're comparing us to what I imagine is your own private experiences with what is in all liklihood an idealised view of what you think conscious beings should be. We're advancing very quickly, and changing core modes such as Individual life span and access to data is stuff we're already discussing. Who knows how quickly it will speed up once those balls start rolling.
@@Android-jass we humans embody light and dark which ultimately is called chaos we are demi gods of our reality we create we want with our minds all within
Been saying that in the most simplistic term since a child and everybody either intentionally misunderstands or dismisses it. Id always say something along the lines of something can't come from nothing and if you believe that then it's no longer science.
@@davyjones7813 yeah exactly and I've always thought about God as something far superior and different than anything in time and space. It's the most logical and rational conclusion a person can come to if they get rid of all the social bias nonsense they've been taught
@@jojomojo3847 Thats an illogical question. It's like asking who created the uncreated. Everything in space and time has to be created. something outside of space and time doesn't need creation seeing that it's not part of creation or time.
@@jojomojo3847 not a very intelligent response. Religion acknowledge a sense of magic something coming from nothing or just a unexplainable divine being that has always been while science will try and give a straight answer to a never ending question
The fact that we are creations of the universe and that we are aware of its existence, would suggest it already has consciousness....
Exactly
It’s called God
Us being aware that we exist gives it consciousness
I applaud you Sir.
Yes, I don't think we emerged from "inanimate matter," despite that being the way it appears.
I always thought about how planets are so big that when standing on one, you can't even tell that it's round. I think this can be applied to the universe. It's so big, and we are so small, it's impossible to see what it is. Just like a cell on a human would have no clue what a human looks like if it could see.
I always thought the universe was possibly sentient. Planets are basically little cells compared to the entirety of it.
Very good
Yup,thought so too.
It’s nearly mushroom season where I am🕺
Same
I've often thought something very similar.
Yeah, that falls into a long held idea in Tao Buddhism. The consciousness we have is a single thing, not exclusive to any one being. So your conscious experience, your friends, strangers, animals, etc. Across all beings, across the entire universe are all one consciousness that belongs to the universe. Alan Watts explains this for western minds very precisely in his lectures. Our conscious experience is just the universe wanting to look itself in the mirror.
You would love the documentary Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. It uses those principles. Dr. Steven Greer is very similar to Alan Watts.
Yesssssss.. the universe wants to experience its infiniteness and the only way is to make individual, sentient beings!!!
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@@yonatonweinstein4939 ???
Our conscious experience is a bulletin board for the limbic system to prioritize needs better.
Developing? Funny how we see ourselves as separate from “the universe”
very true, we literally are the universe
The title itself made me blink in confusion. Like, what are they on about here.
EXACTLY. We literally ARE a part of the universe. It's hard to deprogram people from this concept that they are this separate entity and the rest of the universe revolves around them, I guess.
We are made from stardust
@@TheIncredibleStories Of course we are part of the Universe, but rn we are definitely living separately from other Consciousness life forms, if they exist
Ive missed this side of JRE, the edge-of-knowledge conversations are what brought me in to begin with
We need them
Look up *Elon Musk meets Post Malone*
It's so funny!! 😂😆
@@benjackson9299 no
there’s only so many qualified people he can have those conversations with
Same here my man
Thank god Joe is bringing topics like these to the masses. It’s remarkable how much science and society as a whole ignores/forgets about arguably one of the most important questions of all time
How do i give 2 thumbs up?
I have two thumbs, this is unrealistic. I demand UA-cam roleplay
Society as a whole is terrified of that answer and that's why the general public will never know exactly WTF THIS IS.
He misses so many points, though. Many many advances throughout history came from the military than he mentions Obama who expanded drone strikes and through countries like Syria, Lybia and Tunesia into anarchy.
Check out “Iain mcgilchrist, matter and consciousness”
@@SF-eo6xf he is a classic ‘book smarts’ guy. A drone who has memorised a lot of books but can’t think too critically, hence the Obama nonsense.
This guy was talking about everything and nothing at the same time. That's a talent.
cocaine is a hell of a drug
He's absolutely clueless 😂😂
He's an expert at making sense, out of nonsense...I bet he can turn chikin shit, into chikin salad...
Um ya maybe like ummmmmm ya like . You go these tractors that the living system is ummm ya like
He's definitely not the correct guest to have on here to talk about consciousness he knows nothing about it
It’s very surreal yet comforting at the same time more & more people from all walks of life are not only having these types of conversations but becoming less surprised or shocked by theories like this. Almost normalized.
We are becoming more conscious
Christianity doesn’t want this
@@bluem30man81 christianity abhors competition, it upsets their lies they peddle
We are in the beginning stages of the biggest collective awakening in the history of mankind
I was born and raised in Islamic family. In 5 years of time, I, along with my family have transitioned from super conservatism to more conciseness about the reality. I think internet and traveling has a lot of impact on this. This is my experience.
And I mean the educational internet, non of that tik-tok shit.
“You are not in the universe, you are the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle.” - Eckhart Tolle
That’s a tough ass quote
It's pretty true though.
Alan Watts as well
Find someone else who says it better, Eckhart Tolle evolved from the mad magazine mascot Alfred E Newman and speaks as if his mind is barely moving, you can 2x his videos and still fall 😴
@Unfettered One Yes, on lesser and great scales.
The universe has been there for a long time. It's not waking up. Humanity is waking up.
The universe has been awaken for…hundreds of millions of millennia. We are a part of the awakened thing, but we are not awakened. We begin awakening when we realize this and start towards enlightenment. Enlightment isn’t the goal, enlightenment is like slapping a turbo, a new radiator, a new intake, and an intercooler to upgrade but not fundamentally change YOU. Just how you operate, here and there
Yes humans are waking up and recognising their own behaviour. There are 700,000 people on Reddit raised by a narcissistic parent support where they recognise that family scapegoat one child. Recognising that pattern seems to be an ethical shit shift and shift in human behaviour to recognise Family scapegoating. To become conscious they need to recognise the unconscious behaviour in family groups and individuals. To recognise Family scapegoating seems to be the most simple but complex thing to do.
Er, Humans are parts of the Universe. We are not separate from it, we are literally embedded within it. We are entities permissible by the laws of physics, and every atom that makes up a Human is a atom of the Universe. Therefore if humans are conscience, then the Universe is implicitly conscience also.
There is no separating Humans from the Universe, they are one in the same.
All of a sudden Humanity got too woke
It better go back to sleep
@@BinaryReader Humans and other conscious animals are the only known conscious entities in the universe. Planets and galaxies are not conscious.
I love how the conscious part of the universe wonders if the universe is conscious 😂
Lol ikr, it's like if my eyeballs could be like "I wonder if my person could see..."
The guy is bs
perfect
Is exactly what I was thinking
Lmaoo teasing ourselves with amnesia
It's wild how many people in these comments, and on this show, need to explore Hinduism. The entire backbone of Hinduism is the idea of Brahman, that the Universe is the supreme consciousness. -source, I'm Hindu
Holy shit, it's Mac Lethal. My brother
big fan of your rap bro
Consciousness is the primary reality.
Explored Hinduism, left with cow piss and thousand elephant Gods
I love this conversation. Joe is entertaining some serious philosophical talk. Refreshing to see and not difficult to see there is an audience that is waaaay ready to expand their consciousness.
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it's why i started watching years ago, and i think JRE might have ended but it really was a wild experience
@@yunnowho3225 Even though I could not come up with ONE logical and or ethical and or moral reason to force innocent beings into this hell hole without their consent/permission and I also understand that the ONLY things I can guarantee for my future kids is unimaginable suffering and death, I AM STILL ready to FORCE innocent beings into this hell hole without their consent/permission because I am: selfish, poor, lonely, shallow, stupid, bored and megalomaniac with hero complex and virtue signalling syndrome.
I am going to be absolutely so happy and proud and joyful when my kids will become future: pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex’ life long clients/victims, prison/military industrial complex clients/victims, fascists, satanists, totalitarian single digit IQ nobodies, communists, marxists, bolsheviks, leninists, SJWs, BLMs, socialists, mercenaries, religious freaks wearing funny clothing and head coverings spreading ‘peace’, prostitutes/escorts/sugar babies, sugar daddies/sugar mamas, female rapists, pimps, welfare/benefit queens/kings, cartel members, starving people, broke(n)/bankrupt people from all points of views, hitmen/hitwomen/assassins, murderers, witches/warlocks who curse others, murderers wearing uniforms-badges/white coats-stethoscopes/suits-ties, abused people, abusers/users, drunkards, drug addicts, drug dealers, alcoholics, homeless, gang/mafia members, suicide victims, bullies, bullied people, torturers, tortured people, mentally and physically handicapped people, orphans, victims of organ harvesting and human trafficking, single mother victims, dead soldiers, racist group gang members, prostitutes, residents of hell, debt slaves, suckers to participate in the rat race that enables the world wide criminal syndicate(royalty, bankers etc.) to stay rich and become richer...
Exactly. Well said
@@yunnowho3225 JRE didn't end
Terrence McKenna was speaking about a great cosmic attractor several decades ago. Crazy to see scientists coming to this way of thought now
What does that mean? Cosmic attractor
If you look up Terence McKenna’s Wikipedia page, there is a word for him: “Mystic.” I agree with this adjective.
Terence was talking about the Eschaton, which is a biblical idea that goes back thousands of years.
Well as science advances it's heavily pointing towards intelligent design and not naturalism. We have the wholly Christian concept of the big bang being solidified in 2009. The discovery of DNA, all life based on an immaterial concept information. We have the overwhelming evidence of fine tuning in the universe. The discovery the whole universe and it's 13.8 billions years required just so one earth and humanity can exist in the universe, there is no waste it was all needed and we are largely the earliest life can exist in the universe, the universe is actually very young. And other amazing discoveries such as the quantum holography of genetics and so on and so on. The universe is inherently coherent, this requires a mind behind it, God.
If people are thinking we're conscious and the universe is "catching up" then you're missing the point. Maybe we'll become TRULY conscious once we catch up to the universe.
I think you may be onto something. I think the same.
We are playing the role, but I agree we are products of the universe, so as an extension of the universe we are catching up by finding out as gradually as we humans can might do
We will never catch up with the universe. Our entire existence of humanity/earth is not even a blink of an eye. We are of no consequence.
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@@OnPointFirearms we are definitely of consequence. Mountains are large because they don’t scorn the merest handful of dirt, and the oceans large because they accept the contributions of tiny streams.
I have seen the argument that we are the mental construct of the Universe, so a rippling out of the universe, each a limited view point which enriches the whole viewpoint. Sort of like showing your work in a complex math problem. Each step provides value almost apart from just getting the answer. The why, to the how to the what. Imagine a being that states "I am" and then tried to figure out what it can be. Imagine this as the universe. It splits itself until it can see itself from every possible viewpoint, focussing on every degree within the whole of anything and everything. Example on that. Light and dark or hot and cold are part of the same thing, difference is by degrees. Dark is absence of light, cold absence of heat. We see them as separate, and infinity so, because with our limited minds we can't process it as a whole mentally. But, if you categorize every viewpoint in a "database" then it serves a purpose when put together, quite literally putting infinity together piece by piece. I have seen it suggested that if we are the consciousness of the universe, we are just learning, and we are just learning about what has already happened. Like time is a concept, a focus on a degree rather than the whole. Time is thought to be a man made concept, but if we are potentially the universe's mind, then it would suggest that time is a tool to understand itself. Universe feels and makes things happen. We think and add meaning and value to those feelings. This would also suggest that there is no good or bad. So the "I am" simply "is" rather than "is something specific." The universe is everything, and we are only separate in a grand type of thought experiment that is being done to gain true meaning in "self." Watch Jim Carey's interviews or people who have compiled his stuff to claim he is not "crazy" but waking up to "reality". Now, if Jim is not crazy, and people are waking up to this, if it be true, then we would only be waking up to half truths, because we cannot fathom or grasp a whole truth which encompasses infinity. But why wake at all? Why be concious of the potential fact that we're just a "field of energy dancing for itself?" As Jim explains? Well, I think that if every person is a particle within a multidimensional mental abstraction, then some particles need to know what it is like to know, and some need to know what it is like to "finish" their part. A particle of god, or the universe, is playing out it's role exactly as it should and gets to. I believe the ones that come to such a knowledge are close to finishing their part of the thought experiment. Once finished it returns to the void or the source of everything and becomes like the budist joke "one with everything" having realized it was never separate at all. Meanwhile the rest of us are still playing things out wondering if we are in a Shakespeare comedy or tragedy day to day. I jest a little, however, I actually think these ideas have merit and personally believe it works quite similarly to how I've explained, but on a much more grand and incomprehensible (to a human) way. Certainly fun to think about and makes up for "why bad things happen to good people." Answer = infinity. In infinity everything happens. Like that new movie Anything Everywhere All At Once. Nothing matters in this idea, and at the exact same time everything matters because nothing and something are the same thing diferences are only by degrees. This means a multiverse is real, other lives are real, and quite literally anything you can think of is real somewhere somehow. We just happen to live here and now, and it works within the rules of this particular reality.
amazingly put and you articulated my position entirely. Much love and celebration from Melody in Seattle! Make the self actualization happen- for yourself, others, the world, and the gratitude that comes with that knowledge by the universe itself
Magnificent
Shut up
@@peaceofmind1602 not a very peaceful mind there, eh, Peaceofmind. :p
Your theory is really similar to Hegel’s ideas! Check out his ideas of the Absolute
Joe seriously needs to have *Bernardo Kastrup* on his podcast. Kastrup's take on consciousness is what we all need. Kastrup basically argues that in the same way your brain is what your consciousness looks like, the inanimate universe as a whole is the 2nd person perspective of consciousness.
Yes, we need Bernardo on JRE or Lex Fridman podcast.
What a load of bullshit. You people speak in such complicated and big words that delude stupid people that it is possible to have conscience and intelligence emerge in a world with no creator behind it. No matter how much you complicate or try to spin it, even an idiot knows that this is lunacy. You cannot have a world filled with intelligent sentient conscious beings without a creator God behind this. Stop running after your worldly hedonistic desires and submit to the One Almighty Creator God, who was not born and does not give birth.
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Pseudo science, science is naturally pseudo, it’s hear say through thought. Perception, this is more so a philosophy than anything. Everything has a cosmic consciousness when it’s apart of life. Atoms to the giants who roamed earth millions of years ago. See how that sounds? We don’t know anything beyond ourselves and what we think is real, true or false. It all falls back on what we think. It is nothing special, If we get a chance to share ideas with other species (aliens). In that time we’ll have a better grasp on life, and consciousness. But overall I think the universe has life, otherwise it wouldn’t have created it. Is it per say conscious? Idk, ask how they feel, lol. Almost like talking to god, just not all that there. We are lucky our universe even made us to perceive these moments.
You guys should check out the *Theories Of Everything* podcast with Curt J. THAT is the place for deep discussions about consciousness done in a fantastic format with the kind of follow-on questions you'd hope for. Highly recommended over JRE for these deeper ponderings.
A great philosopher once said we were made by the universe so that it can see itself through our eyes.
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That's how it works :)
The Bible thousands of years ago said man was made in Gods image
it's called God
Universe sounds like a bit of a narcissist lol
I love the idea of tiny little miniscule parts of the universe known as humans consciously asking if the universe is conscious.
lol
Except, out of all the life that we know of here on Earth, Humans are the only ones that we know of that have made it out into space, under our own volition... So, not very "tiny", in that sense. And as far as physical size, well Hell, there is a LOT smaller than us.
@@StanHowse baby steps into space we have a long way to go
@@StanHowse so if a quantum particle to a human is as small as a human brain to the Universe, isn't the answer quite obvious? We looks at the Universe and the Universe does look back at us!
right like quantum physics lol
Alan Watts nailed it. We are the universe observing itself. Apertures of light. Also the famous Freeman Dyson said and I will paste it here. This is what he is getting at. “It is remarkable that mind enters into our awareness of nature on two separate levels. At the highest level, the level of human consciousness, our minds are somehow directly aware of the complicated flow of electrical and chemical patterns in our brains. At the lowest level, the level of single atoms and electrons, the mind of an observer is again involved in the description of events. Between lies the level of molecular biology, where mechanical models are adequate and mind appears to be irrelevant. But I, as a physicist, cannot help suspecting that there is a logical connection between the two ways in which mind appears in my universe. I cannot help thinking that our awareness of our own brains has something to do with the process which we call "observation" in atomic physics. That is to say, I think our consciousness is not just a passive epiphenomenon carried along by the chemical events in our brains, but is an active agent forcing the molecular complexes to make choices between one quantum state and another. In other words, mind is already inherent in every electron, and the processes of human consciousness differ only in degree but not in kind from the processes of choice between quantum states which we call "chance" when they are made by electrons.”
thank you for taking the time to write this
I love that sentiment, I always used to say that the universe is the closest thing to a God that exists and is known and that God is in every single one of us as we are the universe's way of observing itself. The universe gives us meaning and in turn we give the universe meaning.
I am not a theist in any way shape or form but it's nice to have something to believe in :)
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Wow. You just solved the mystery of being 🤔😑
0 evidence supporting any of this
One thing I tend to think about regarding this discussion is Carl Jung’s idea of “individuation.” Basically, individuation is the self achieving wholeness as a result of marrying opposite things together (the conscious and unconscious mind for example).
What if the emergence and development of life is the universe’s attempt at seeking individuation?
There is about 700,000 individuals on Reddit her waking up to being raised by narcissistic personality disorder parent and experiencing family scapegoating patterns of abuse. I’m not sure what conscious that is waking up but it’s waking up some and recognise pattern in humans. Which suggests humans have been largely unconscious of their own behaviour. Redditt technology narcissistic abuse something is waking humans up to recognise patterns in behaviour
The so-called "natural laws" of the universe, the course of nature, its tendency to turn entropy into order, those are CLEAR indications of the unconscious part of the universe manifesting itself. The universe isn't traditionally conscious because it doesn't have cognition, it doesn't think, but that doesn't mean it isn't alive. The collective psyche of life forms the conscious part of the universe.
Your comment is more interesting and thought provoking than this dude rambling.
Well said
I fucking love this.
Love the idea of chaos being an outward expression of a system demanding change. That is a fantastic way to think about and approach the “problems” in every aspect of our world. Brilliant.
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It's so funny!! 😂
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It’s finally here
So choas is an outward expression of a system demand change, so when someone rapes a baby kills people that is the universe wanting change.
the way this guy talks, he's a bullshitter
but what perception of chaos?
To me the animated is the chaos and the inanimate is order. If the universe could observe itself, would it wonder what the hell is up with all this stuff going on in these random specks all over me.
The universe gave us our consciousness… The universe is far beyond complex than we could even imagine.
It's called God
I wondering, is consciousness and soul the same if so, could it be animism since all we know of in existence is matter and where could it be at that experience the life?
It just created itself. From death came life. Yeah, that makes sense.
The LORD DID
The universe didn’t give us consciousness, through time and randomness, evolution crated life. Life wasn’t given, it was created randomly. Btw the universe isn’t a thing, it’s just a name for the group of all things.
The universe has been conscious, we're simply becoming more aware as we develop our piece of consciousness.
The universe has always HAD the highest of consciousness
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Yeah I would surmise it as God
Whoa deep bruh
The universe is conscious of itself?
I reluctantly..., agree.
This was probably my favorite jre yet. This dude was so interesting, I could’ve listened for hours more.
We have a tendency to focus on the physical while being conscious. Most of what we analyse and debate on is somewhat verifiable through “physics” bound to the physicality. We know consciousness is there as we experience it, but we yet have to understand and maybe accept that it could be part of everything else.
The problem with that is we all experience consciousness differently. And it's no quantifiable it can't be measured so modern science turns there noses at it. I'm sure as we progress as a society both technologically and spiritually consciousness will be given a second chance. Just look at all the study they are doing with psychedelics
@@douggaudiosi14 there is research being done on the nature of conscious everyday. Progress is definitely being made.
When I was a kid in school I always was shocked of images showing the universe as this series of objects rotating and moving through space looked so similar to designs of a living organisms brain with connections and structure looking similar. Made me wonder if we are just very small organisms living inside something much larger then the universe. And that heat death of the universe is inevitable because the organism we are inside eventually has to die.
That's some fractal "Horton hears a who" type shit. I dig it.
So how do they reconcile complexity with entropy ? Evolution whether driven by purpose or not is clearly not following entropy... nor is an ever complexifying cosmos, rhe two are irreconcilable...Even if you say that somehow entropy causes complexity through chaos, ill point out that its still no longer entropy if novelty contunies to occur...
This is what I believe we are an atom that is becoming self aware
"How about a Universe, with a full consciousness?"
SpongeBob: "That's God, Patrick. It's already been invented!"
I'll say it again. I think the natural human response, without outside influence, to realizing our own existence would be "I'm here, there must be something else out there" rather than "I'm here, there's no way there other life elsewhere"
Humans are too complex, I think life is a complete miracle and that people who assume there has to be life out there because we are here are ignorant to how special we really are.
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Yup people has gotten too nihilistic since the 21st century, but that's quite the result of shitty governance & greed from the elites.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 I don't disagree that our concious life is a miracle but everything in our living world is immensely complex... I think part of the challenge of our evolution or ascension is figuring out whether we are more special than other lifeforms, or if we are simply one of many.
@@GrizzlyAdams101 The fact that we are here, regardless of any subjective assessment you have regarding our "complexity", is itself proof that we live within a universe and under a set of natural laws that provide for our emergence and existence. IF those laws are in fact universal (as they appear to be) then there is no reason to assert there is something "special" about our particular existence. True, we may well find that the emergence of the particular configuration of matter that constitutes life might be vanishingly rare (something we've yet to determine) but at present there's no reason to assert miracles are required when the principles that appear to govern the totality of our universe are sufficient.
I’ve thought about this many times. That the universe could be a living organism. It intrigues me how much solar systems are like atoms. With a nucleus (sun) at the centre with electrons (planets) orbiting that nucleus and most of the atom is made up of empty space. Same as a solar system. What if the solar systems are atoms and we are part of the make up of atoms in a living organism. I need to lie down just thinking about it lol
But thats not at all how atoms are... the planetary model is a vastly oversimplified model and is not at all how an actual atom is composed.
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@@Ddub1083 exactly yeah there is another model called string theory (don't know if it is related to the main one people think about) where they are modelled as strings with various amounts of notches in it like a guitar.
the basics of atoms which you learn is school is not correct it's just easier to explain to a 12y.o. child especially when the information is likey to be never used.
@@chrisatcgh string theory is the theory that different types of matter are composed of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. not sure what notches you mean.
For me the universe is the original conscious and split it’s self up into separate conscious to converse/debate/hurt/love with itself. To experience all things first hand as it’s better than learning through a 3rd party. Which is why we forget our past lives when we’re born and pass our trauma/mistakes onto our children so each child has the best chance to make a mistake and learn from it.
You just described most Eastern religions. Mainly Hinduism and Buddhism.
you sound ridiculous
consciousness = “we are one person just split apart”
Seems like the universe is just a useful model to contextualize our perceptual experiences, but its not reality. Atoms, molecules, neurons and such are reconstructions of what is actually there according to our model of a space-time universe, but its just a useful mode that got us along through natural selection. It completely leaves out anything fundamental because what is fundamental is not useful, simplified models of fundamental reality optimize for information that is useful to increase our fitness, to ensure that this biological structure will survive and pass on its genes, not so that we consciously perceive this all accurately.
You are so confused
It's insane to see us, conscious beings, (the universe and existence personified, literally) ask ourselves if we are conscious while exercising consciousness.
That Duality vs oneness my friend ,
@@Provemerightthx if that is true, what it make a difference? nah probably not.
Ppl always see themselves as something that was dumped into nature rather than seeing it from the perspective that they are in fact nature itself. We are the universe, not things separate from it. You've already arrived and its impossible to separate from the existence and universal systems around you. "We are the universe becoming aware of itself". One of my favorite facts about this whole thing
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Well, i can't see how pointing that can be useful. I mean, what does that change when we refer about the universe meaning just a big number of rocks and gasses and N-word holes, from referring about it as everything alive and not?
I think the universe is already conscious, in it's own way. And that we are the natural by-product. Operating on an infinitely smaller scale, so that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal. There is probably other life out there that we cannot comprehend, but which itself is part of the bigger picture.
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You are quite right. All the best
“So that the bigger picture eventually reaches its goal” - we as humans are parts that might make something larger than us whole or better improved, well said!
Macrocosm to Microcosm, and vice versa.
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The universe is consciousness. Well its extension of that consciousness. Not religious but the bible says " we were made in gods image ". It should be " we were made in gods imagination. The universe is/was thought into existence by "god". God is source consciousness. The consciousness that thought all this into existence. We are piece of that consciousness. Along with every other thing in existence. Even inanimate objects we've made. We give then energy and thought them into existence just like creation did with us. Its all a loop🙏
I died briefly from a heroin overdoses. My world got flipped on its head. I had a " spiritual awakening " to put it simply. During that time, I think I'm going crazy. I want some type of proof that the universe is alive and I got it.. The double slit experiment. This experiment more less demonstrates that our conscious observation has an effect on reality. Thats in part because this thing is to remain the unknown. We learned something, we looked to see the thing we knew, now the universe had to expand, evolve again to be the unknown. Almost every answer we seek is in front of us all🙏 Im not claiming to have all the answers, or any. I just known this life means to me, and I spent a lot of time dissecting this experience. Love you all🙏 The universe is already conscious. Its just slowly developing a voice To tell us shut the fuck up and look at what's around us. That development is the natural evolution of this experience and I think its purpose is oush foward/slap the people who can't believe we're more than these physical bodies without god coming down and literally slapping them in the face. Thats him just starting walking down here basically to show the sceptics , yes i am alive. A lot of people need god to come down from the clouds to believe, and thats what he's doing/ thats what this is. 🙏 Thats probably the " return of Christ " the bible speaks about as well. The return of the children of god, to knowing/feeling a relationship with creation just like " the son " jesus. Thats the holy Trinity. The father " god ", the son ( or sons ) the holy teachers who came to life to teach us to know god before we could see him, and the holy spirit- the piece of god in us/ the yearning in all of us to know god, know that there's more to this life, know what comes next etc. The only thing real is consciousness everything else is an extension of that consciousness. Energy doesn't just feast to exist right? It disperses almost like it lives and life of its. God is the energy that precedes/propelled the big bang🙏
We are quite literally made of stardust and therefore, we are the Universe experiencing itself. The Universe and consciousness eminate from divine source (namely God or Buddha etc) and have always gone hand in hand. All life has been created by design to aid the processing of ideas and development of the Universe and are fed by Universal consciousness. But we’re also here to have an amazing time 😉👍🏻
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We are just the first bits of conscious stardust in the Universe. I think the Universe is trying to have all matter or stardust become conscious.
Well said!!
All is brahman
Haven't listened to this yet but hasn't the universe already become conscious because we are the universe conscious of its self
bro I was not mentally prepared to think about this right now lmao
does that mean my bong is conscious?
it's a great point, we're unarguably a part of the universe
yes
Glad someone pointed that out.
Incredible how people ask silly questions like that without even taking 30 seconds to just think about the question
I think the universe was always conscious , it's people who are becoming conscious.
This dude is like the missing link between hard science and spirituality. He doesnt know that, but what he has observed from the physical world 100% jives with the theory of the Law of One. He's so close...The universe - reality itself is indeed conscious. Its more important than we realize. Its how we will one day traverse the vast distances of space.
How do you know this?
I have read that whistle blowers who have worked on back-engineering UFOs, say that there are no physical controls, only a chair and a screen and that the pilot steers it telepathically.
Does that make sense to you?
Elizabeth God is great
Hes so close?
You are not an authority on any of these matters.
LOO
This guy actually saying all this while not high? That's impressive.
You have a wrong idea of what ''high'' is.
Na seems pretty accurate.
This bag of flesh is just spouting off nonsense using his little pea brain. We humans cannot understand the universe. We don't have the capacity for shit. We've got a long way to go.
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some deep thinking going on! 🤔
I've always thought that problems we have in our world are caused by a lack of consciousness of ourselves in relationships to the world. Like we have issues with anxiety now a days and we blame it on a lot of things in the world but what about asking if we individually aren't doing what we should be doing? It's easy to say your anxious because of the problems in the world it's harder to say your anxious because your not living your life right?
Indeed
Thats a really brilliant point.
Yes, this is what Carl Jung would say more or less, anxiety is like a compass shoeing you what you might need to change. Sometimes it’s extremely overwhelming and painful so it makes sense to surpress it somewhat, but that pain is your body and mind telling you “something is wrong” and guess what? That means something IS wrong! I have a panic disorder since last year and it has taught me incredible lessons in how I should live my life. I was having panic attacks because my life was so unbelievably out if balance and growing in the wrong direction, therapy is allowing me to get in touch with what I actually need to do and that is improving my life long struggle with anxiety. Don’t ignore it, don’t bombard it with benzos and other drugs, do what you can to reach homeostasis and then search for what the right direction is.
Yes as the video says naturally things become more complex as time goes on. As do we, we seek solution through doubt and blame and other symptomatic human behaviors and like all other illnesses we treat the symptom rather than taking action towards the problem or goal. We should strive to have a hive like mentality, synchronize the individual mindset for the progression of humanity. Are rates have slowed.
@@soupypoo "We should strive to have a hive like mentality" this is absolutely the opposite of complexity and is not the future. The future is ever increasing diversity (not in the woke sense, I mean real diversity), think of the human psyche as an extension of the microbiome idea, each individual is like a microbe in a massive fractal ecosystem where each incredibly unique point of consciousness contributes to a larger system of consciousness, it's not a "hive mentality" like that one rick and morty episode. If you look back in history, humans started out in very unconscious, intuitive lifestyles where the individual means little, as humanity emerged out of nature and started to separate itself like a flower emerges from it's previously leafy stem, we move towards increased individuality and separation, which is complexity.
Popa Wu said “Everything you see always has been and always will what be” I was like 15 I think and those few seconds of him explaining the universe made so much sense to me suddenly
We are the universe experiencing itself. We are sensory instruments.
Some time ago I had this same idea or "ephiphany" about our role in th universe:
We can methaphoricly say that sentient beings (as we), are the neurons of the universe, same as a human neuron can "hold an idea" and we sometimes strugle to make up our own mind about something that happen to us, humans communicate (like neurons) to make this "collective mind" work.
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This is one of the key parts of my outlook on life. I'm glad to know you feel the same.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration
That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves
Here's Tom with the weather"
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I love this clip. Feel like the guest is channeling Terrence McKenna at 5:21 when he says “cosmic attractor”.. looks we’re on course to witness the intersection of science and spirituality. Interesting how Joe played the role of skeptic whilst the scientist almost sounded religious.
100%
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You're making it up because it's just words
are you real?
I did 5G of mushrooms blindfolded, the universe told me our purpose was creation. That our ideas take on a life force of their own and our purpose was to bring thoughts into fruition
Far out dude
For realsies?
we are the buds with which god tastes himself
@@kanyewest6539 God tastes himself? Gross.
Quick question, did you play any music or sounds? Or did you use complete silence(
To answer the question of what the purpose is of expanding consciousness, one must understand what’s beyond the universe.
But I think that, in and of itself, just points to the reason- it expands *because* there is something beyond us, and the boundaries of what we know exists or could exist. Maybe beyond what is even tangible.
Yes sir! Two great podcasts in a row! Love these topics.
Bobby: "You have these complex attrackers that maintain thermal dynamics..."
Joe: " Gravity attracks the water down the pipe"
😆Good job Joe.
and he made the whooshie sound too :)
What are you two smoking? Neither of these occurred.
@@baj4206 hahaha ikr! I can only make a little fun bc I know Joe is a highly intelligent human being.
@@justincase1853 well to be fair he is trying to reduce the complexity of infinite space and what it entails in relation to counsciousness in order to have a discussion about it.
@@FrenchCanadianGuy May be referring to the metaphysical, spiritual or esoteric principles that could potentially be acknowledged in these explorations
My theory: the universe knows it's going to retract, so it created us to technologically advance enough to prevent it from ending. Just like how a living body has blood cells that repair it and fight off germs.
what strain you smoking bro?
Thought about this idea before too
Or maybe it created us so the future us are so advanced we create our own universe or save these one
This is a great take brother. Never thought about it
What about all of the black holes that are sucking in the universe? What is their purpose do you suppose? And then there's white hole theory where the matter from the black hole is thrust out into a new universe? I personally believe that we are living in a simulation and the creator of the laws that govern the universe is observing their creation through our experiences.
The clip got me thinking and I got a few questions to ask. Please give me some insight.
1. Who's to say that the universe isn't a living organism? It's its own self contained ecosystem. That seems to evolve.
2. Why aren't we the only living thing in the universe? Without the invention of time travel, wormholes, or any time and space warping technology. With distance in mind wouldn't another civilization already be extinct? More like we all just living in a place in time.
3. Who's to say that conscious escapes the universe in the 1st place? Maybe that's also self contained as well as everything else.
What if when we die, we wake up with a group of friends in another dimension, and they all ask you "so how was the trip?"
Be nice to each other. Everyone is fighting a very hard battle. Much love to you my friend.
Thank you for being an amazing contributor to the conscious awakening. Your content has always helped me grow learn and remain inspired.
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Its finally here
This guy is a fraud
The "goal" of Universe / Creation / Source - is to know itself through experiencing every possible scenario. It is achieved by division to individual consciousness called Souls and giving them free will to create their experiences on their own terms.
Bingo
Simple truths
Sure one part of it
Wrong read the Bible
@@joeshmoe5168 read my nuts
We need to separate consciousness / our energy / soul from the material reality (the Universe). Our material reality seems to be fixed / managed by sets of algorithms and coding (DNA). Somehow our conscious mind, energy, observation affects the projection of this reality. People say life feels like a video game, and they probably aren’t totally wrong about that. It’s like a simulation or holographic reality, experienced as real reality and with consequences (dying and many say there’s a review of what we did during our life here). Then we return to Source, the energy source, outside our dimensional reality. It’s a new state of being, of conscious awareness. NDE and OBE experiencers often say they felt WAY more alive outside of body than inside it. I can attest to this too. I’ve had two powerful OBEs and I’m convinced of this now.
It's all insane, but incredible. I'm willing to believe anything at this point.
You don't truly understand "being" until you've experienced this. I wish more people could see this, it would rid ego and unite.
Great vid worth watching here:
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Physical matter has never been demonstrated to behave algorithmically. Your founding assumption upon which you base your dualistic perspective is flawed. Quantum mechanics predicts (correctly) that matter is fundamentally unpredictable/deterministic.
Hence reality is absolutely unknowable. Is there *really* any difference between awareness of experience and that which experiences? "What am I?", you should ask yourself.
Perhaps you'll discover why God's name is I Am That I Am. I suspect you have asked the above and, from your comment, you have likely intuited why He is Named such.
@@ChristAliveForevermore The god of Abraham is a tired story and rational people are sick of it.
It seems irrational to admit that the universe seems to have a goal using only physics to explain it. The chances of this type of complexity happening by accident is infinity to 1. God and science can both exist
Right, who says they can't. As a Muslim I've never had this problem with religion and science. Science is a just tool thats tells us about the natural world but its limited in it's scope, it can only go so far
The idea that something came nothing, or that consciousness randomly developed out of particles-atoms-amino acids.. is completely ridiculous and unscientific.
Thinking it is all coincidence is a sign of an egotistical and polluted mind.
God exists.
@@ApolloDeRothschild as far as what actually exists in the natural world. The moment you start making up things about a supernatural world outside of this one you're no longer in the realm of science, likely not even in the realm of reality..
@@Thezuule1 the scientific method involves the questioning of our perception of reality and then testing the hypothesis. So far science has conceeded the the concept of a higher consciousness is not fantasy and they are proving it using the laws of the universe. Now the question comes back to who or what wrote the laws of the universe, and mathematically speaking, the chances of it being random sounds more like a fantasy than there being a designer
@@THEREALAKRINIM 💯 and firas zihabi has this great quote about randomness he says there's no such things as randomness its just an expression for our ignorance cause a being that knows everything to it nothing is random referring to Allah(the diety)
"The Universe, " is just an atheists way of trying to comprehend our existence. Then, they inevitably come to the conclusion that, "The Universe," has a conscience, and created us!? Sounds a lot like a higher power.
Fascinating how people like this guy want to believe in something, but simply aren't capable.
When he mentioned Karl Popper, that was enough.
If the universe has a consciousness, then it's a "higher power" the same way you're a higher power compared to the cells in your body.
Also, we're emergent properties of the universe, it didn't "create" us.
Once a person understands themselves, then one finds God. Then the universe can be seen through the lens of wholeness, and the human endeavor is seen as a spiritual intelligence test.
What do you mean by "higher power"? There are many different views of what a higher power is. Someone who believes in God would view a higher power as an intelligence that created everything, that is hands-on to the point that praying to God may result in a change to a perceived coming outcome, that so loves and cares for the "lower power" beings (because if there is "higher" then there must be "lower") that there's a all-joyous afterlife waiting for those lower power beings who follow the rules of God. On the other hand, an atheist may view a "higher power" as a power greater than themselves that is not fully understood, has a certain hands-off approach to creation in terms of everything being set into motion at the start of the universe, and has no caring of lower power beings to the point that there is no afterlife to look forward to, and if lower power beings such as humans, destroy themselves and go extinct, then the higher power will simply keep going, perhaps to an inevitable end predicted by the lower power beings (you know, such as when all the stars burn out and the universe stops expanding and simply grows cold and everything ends).
So, I don't think an atheist would be talking about God when referring to a universe that appears to show consciousness. Maybe what we recognize as the consciousness of the universe is no different than looking up into the sky and recognizing the shape of a bunny in the clouds. Is it really a bunny, or is it simply a cloud that, from our limited perspective, currently holds a shape that we recognize as a bunny?
@@GuillRickard emergent properties of the universe sounds similar to created in God’s image. The Bible talks about humans being God’s bride and how the ‘two shall become one’. People when they die have visions of a bright light drawing them to it while incredible feelings of love, acceptance and belonging flood their senses. Like being drawn home. God calls himself ‘I Am’ in the Bible multiple times which sounds like a declaration of consciousness. There are just a lot of parallels here. Rogan talks a lot about LSD being something like a portal for our consciouses to travel and meet other beings, Angels, Demons, Aliens. My point is that the only real difference between the Universe you’re describing and the ‘Higher Power’ others are describing is maybe it’s ability or lack thereof to love. At least the ability to love mere humans. That seems like a small difference when it comes to scientific standards. If consciousness is turning out to be more than simply a chemical reaction that occurs only in the human brain then maybe love is too.
Aren’t we the universe taking a physical form already? I feel like the universe created us to experience every aspect of itself and life.
yes but i think what hes saying is that as we and any other conscient form of life grows and expands its sort of connecting the vast universe together even if right now its at its infancy. like his internet example, first it was mail , then phones, then tv, now internet. the world is now pretty much connected or online 24/7. so before if a tragedy happened in the middle of a foreign country maybe only locals would have experienced it. but now the world as a whole is experiencing these activities as one. for example we are all sort of watching whats going with russia and ukraine as one world population getting updated by the minute.
as we expand to a different part of space and that connects to this earth now there will be two planets connected as one.
with possibly billions other life forms doing this the universe is connecting into one "being". idk if any of that made sense lol.
also joe is showing the ego thing he was attempting to criticize because he is separating us as if WE are not part of the universe. we are as much the universe as a blackhole or super nova. so us being conscience is the universe being conscience although I don think that's what the speaker meant. i think the speaker meant what I mentioned above.
I’d say the fact we are consciousness created by the universe means the laws of the universe that binds us to this world flows through us and is a medium for one thing to perceive itself.
Agreed, well put, I love the quote “Humans are the universe experiencing itself@
The Universe is already 'conscious,' or more specifically, it's an unbroken field of consciousness. Call it god, the source of all being, the supreme reality, the one life underlying all of creation, etc. Humans are not "one of the driving forces" in this field, but simply a part of it. It is the human ego that deludes one into believing they are separate from it, or can have control over it.
Spot on brother. Although I would say that we are one of the driving forces "in" the field, but we are not the driving force "of" the field.
I'm not saying I disagree, only that no human can truly know or say this with certainty. Science and discovery is not made from 'gut feelings'
@@nighthawk0077 Not a gut feeling. Direct unitive knowledge through the practice of meditation. Millions throughout the ages have experienced it. Don't take my word for it. I wouldn't either. Anything beyond that is simply faith or belief, and I'm not interested in that. Those who achieve this unified state, the Buddha simply says, have done what has to be done. They have fulfilled the purpose of life.
@@zyrrhos Again not saying I disagree or can prove you wrong, but you must also be open to the possibility this is simply a built-in function of the human mind under certain conditions. It could in fact be that you are reaching or communicating with the source, or it could be a pre programmed illusion.
@@nighthawk0077 Programmed by whom? A noisy divided mind is incapable of seeing things as they really are. The still mind is its natural state. It is the most absolute truth I know. Everything else is illusion.
This kind of content is why I started listening to JRE. More of this!
We ARE the universe. We are not separate. The atoms that make up our body make up stars. If we’re conscious…. The universe is conscious.
Sean Carroll’s “the big picture” does a good job of covering complexity and the emergence of consciousness. Great interview!
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Blessings and gratitude Joe! Thank you for this exchange. It's fundamentally important to remember all has their own views on what life is what the heck are we doing here and why why why!?. I'd like to add, all on this planet have cosmic consciousness. In this perception of though, and thought has a huge part of consciousness and that is life all life exists even your instruments you use on your set is alive. So with this thought, the universe has always been alive it is us as a people who never had the perceptual awareness due to how we have been raised over time and not nearly enough information and toxins and illegal limitations to express and meet your inner cosmic awareness.In one thought leads to many more. Keep on your journey and know your on the right path and exploring all levels of inner awareness is the quickest way to become one though this doorway...it's all beautiful and all will be reveals very soon. Consciousness is alive and our earth is alive the biosphere is alive and we all work together. each planet has this unique life force and we as humans are ending a cycle, were evolving as the earth is. We are everywhere and human life is on many many planets throughout our Solar system and universal grids. It's time we all come together as a whole to unite as one collective called Earthly humans and open space for meeting our cosmic relatives because it's happening weather we hold onto fear or not....trust in infinite creation..it surrounds us and let's see collectively were we all can rise too....a new world is coming...and infor one am extremely excited for this evolution of our beloved planet and home we call EARTH. Adonai 💙🙏🌠
We are ascending 🙏🏻
The single mind connected by the internet really stood out to me as someone who works in IT. We have neurons in our brains connected by pathways. What if we are the human equivalent of that same system on a much larger scale and the internet is that pathway for us. We can then scale it up even more and think of planets as neurons connected within the galaxy using a system we are yet to understand
Yes. Exactly
Rupert Sheldrake's work on morphic fields and morphic resonance blew my mind back in 2013 when I fordt started reading about it. The concept of Attractors and Chreodes (I think that's how it's spelled) are present in all processes and tend to repeat themselves over time.
GREAT vid!!!
His trialogues with McKenna and Abraham are a cultural treasure.
I need go revisit these ideas in light of my 🍄 discoveries
I love it when Joe has these guests on what makes you think...deeply. only the universe knows its conscious I reckon..
Consciousness developed the universe
The answers are out there, we just haven't answered the universe's captcha challenge correctly yet.
Ha! 👌
Keep it up with these type of podcasts joe this is what we all started watching you for
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Chris Langan needs to get on JRE!
The universe always had consciousness
Not always
No
Craziest segment title ever !
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Is the whole episode/interview on UA-cam? I would really love to hear it! This is so fascinating
One of my friends who isnt fond of philosophical questions gets very annoyed at the suggestion that, as conscious entities ourselves, and being of the universe, that we are the universe's consciousness. His reasoning is that it isnt pragmatic information, and there is no way to get a definitive answer outside of our own definitions of words. Personally, questions and ideas like this are extremely fun to think about and consider. Its a creative intellectual lens that puts a lot of life into perspective. Not to say pragmatic science is not creative or intellectual mind you.
I would ask your friend, what exactly would the universe gaining consciousness look like, if not humans? From a perspective outside of our universe, a portion of molecules and protons and electrons came together to record, measure, and chronicle the rest of them. Why is this practical information? Our drive to understand the world around us is directly linked to advances in technology. Although this is a baseless anthropomorphization of the universe, Its eerie to me that the universe seems to incentivize and 'want' us to understand it.
But of course we are! Humans are legendary
artists and poets are generations ahead of science and engineering.-McLuhan
"Is the Universe Developing Consciousness?"
That's THE LAST fuckin thing we need right about now smh
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I feel like this guy's going through a back window of explaining a creator
Exactly, it's nebulous and without any real explanation.
10:30 What he's saying is there'll be more instances of life forming on planetary bodies therefore more concious life popping up across the universe just like we did.
@@jownye It's generally accepted that a multitude of life already exists in the universe. He didn't explain how that makes consciousness.
@@jamesscottvideos imagine saying that, I bet youre some1 who believes if a group of monkeys got together and began writing random words, eventually they'd pen a Shakespearean novel. After all, at a given point, mathematically , it have to happen law of averages right?
No. Absolutely not, anyone who says this, regardless of however impressive their credentials, they are either a total dumbass or they are lying to you.
@@jamesscottvideos We as individuals already have a conciousness. Us humans are already concious. If we were to ever make contact with another planet with another lifeform we'd have a concious connection with them.
What if we then made yet another connection... and another... and another? Eventually we'd be linked in a network with other life forms just like our neurons (or our cosmetic web is connected).
It's fractals on an unimaginable scale.
Universe is not waking up. We are waking up to the fact that WE ARE the universe.
Two wicked podcasts in a row 🙌🙌
the fact that we are a part of the universe that thinks that knows what consciousness is and has it, while the whole rest doesn't, is hilarious
I think everything is an expression of consciousness. Some life is more limited in its expression, but it houses the same unlimited potential
@@nicholasmiranda6013 💯, other life forms are limited to their biology/intelligence.....
@@nicholasmiranda6013 consciousness in a since is sort of like a super organism that spans all of space and time.
The universe has always been gaining consciousness. Some of us are just now becoming aware of that fact.
we (humane) are literally the consciousness of the universe
the idea that the universe is slowly anthropomorphizing and that somehow this will make it ‘function better’ is palpably human
consciousness is the universe experiencing itself all eventually ending at the one consciousness but starting there at the same time
so are we the universe remembering itself? and maybe creating itself
@@youtube_handled not remembering but creating the experience. it did not create itself tho it has just always been present
@@devilsposterboy created universal conciseness shatters into fragments that slowly find each other and rebuild the pieces into the whole, to be shattered again, maybe more fragmented the next time
@@devilsposterboy The universe began at the "Big Bang." Space and time didn't exist before it, at that moment. Of course, IF it is a "bubble" universe, among others, there's more to the story.
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Universe is literally consciousness at it's core
We're far too young a species to be talking like we have all the answers. Lets quietly bide our time and see where things go.
I'm about to be 35 years old on Sunday and I think about stuff like this all the time. (Usually when I'm trying to sleep and let me tell you, it is not a good way for you to try and get a decent amount of sleep.)
- Are we really just soulless bags of walking meat? And life just ends once we die?
- If the Big Bang created the universe, what created the Big Bang?
- If there was a creator of the Big Bang, what was their ultimate goal? And where did they come from?
- Is there such a thing as collective consciousness, where all living beings meld together through life and death?
As someone who was raised Roman Catholic and is a literal past Grand Knight and 4th Degree member of the Knights of Columbus, the answer to most of these questions is, "God." At least, that's what I've been told.
But I still struggle with this concept since I'm an intellectual who has thoughts (I at least like to think of myself as an intellectual) and there are certain questions where the uncertainty of said questions bothers me.
I guess that's why we call it, "The Mystery of Faith."
This was a fantastic segment, Joe.
Gregg there might be multiple Big Bangs. Theres a possibility that it just happens over and over again.
I'm right there with you man, I recently just turned 36 and myself delve into these thoughts mostly at night. I love hearing different points of view on this subject and just try to make a somewhat educated guess of what this all means, but I'm constantly learning. You would think that taking all types of information from a bunch of different sources would make it easier, but it doesn't. Sometimes I wish I could go back to how life was before I started asking why, it was a much simpler and carefree time.
Scientists believe the universe is all one big cycle. It gets larger and larger until the universe is barren (much like before the big bang) with nothing but energy and dying black holes. Eventually another Big Bang will spark the existence of the next universe. Of course this is billions upon billions of years of time before this happens but it does make sense.
The big bang is no longer available as a reality. It's debunked.
Direct unitive knowledge through the practice of meditation eliminates having to rely on faith or belief.
"Do we think the universe is conscious? Does it have a conscious intent?"
Perhaps it does. Perhaps it's only through its own will that any of this exists-including a world full of beings that can continually reproduce themselves, serve as their own perpetual energy source, and use time and randomness to automatically adapt to the changing, chaotic nature of existence.
Sounds like a less likely version of Christianity ✝️🙏😉
I can't help but notice the absence of a single definition or evidence... It might be helpful to first define that which your supposition hinges on. Hopefully he managed it at some point in the full conversation - otherwise he might as well be talking about crystal lore.
I haven't listened to this interview yet, but if you're looking for scientific take on this, check out 'The Self Aware Universe' written by a PhD in astro physics. In it, he explains how the paradoxical behaviors observed from particles at the quantum level are best explained by the supposition that the material world is created from consciousness.
The only evidence we can produce through the scientific method is by measuring matter, which will not help us in this case. We know that matter has never been measured or observed outside of consciousness. All our conclusions about matter assume we can just ignore the influence of the filter through which we perceive it. If you are interested in these things I suggest looking up Bernardo Kastrup, he makes the best case for non-dualism and idealism in the tradition of Plato and Schopenhauer.
This is the most complicated way I’ve ever seen someone avoid saying there is a God with a universal order.
Everything is conscious, its just on a spectrum of complexity. Consciousness is just a function of one thing reacting functionally to something else in a system of change. Humans sit somewhere on this spectrum of functional complex change battling entropy forever in a game. There is no demarcation between being conscious and not, we have drawn a line based on our own self perceived importance. The universe has always been "awake".
Brilliantly put
Thank you for your comment @@jackryan7312. I would also like to entertain a thought experiment concerning the "Self" &"Memory" . I would argue that the "Self", or the awareness you are experiencing right now that is accessing your brain's memories creates the illusion that you have always been Jack Ryan and you will only ever be Jack Ryan. The reason for this is that you (the sense of being and "self" when you strip away everything that is an additional mental component on top of that) are only ever accessing the host's memories that your awareness currently accesses and resides in at any instantiation point in Spacetime. Yesterday you could of been me but you woke up today thinking you've always been Jack Ryan. This awareness 'switch' or 'swap' may mean you're Joe Rogan tomorrow. Even if you make the time frequencies between these swaps faster and faster with your awareness swapping every hour, or every nanosecond, the memory will still always keep the illusion of being that same person or whatever being you can imagine in the Universe. We may as human beings have the capability to access this Universal shared memory (shared drive if you like) and therefore start to see that we are all "One" - perhaps this mental unity will increase our collective empathy for one another and provide us all as 'individuals' with a better world to live in...
@@willhayes3095 Interesting theory! Have you had any experiences that have led you to believe in such a world view?
You might enjoy this -
"Is consciousness necessarily unified? Some thinkers (Descartes and Kant, for example) have argued that some sort of unity is a deep and essential feature of consciousness. On this view, the conscious states of a subject are necessarily unified: it is impossible for there to be a subject whose conscious states are disunified. On the other side, some thinkers (e.g. Nagel 1971) have argued that the unity of consciousness can break down. On this view, there are cases (especially neuropsychological cases, such as those involving patients with split brains) in which a subject's states of consciousness are disunified. Some (e.g. Dennett 1992) hold more strongly that consciousness is often or usually disunified, and that much of the apparent unity of consciousness is an illusion."
"How can the unity of consciousness be explained? If consciousness really is unified, and especially if it is necessarily unified, then it is natural to look for an explanation of this fact. What is it about consciousness that yields this unity? Is unity a primitive feature of consciousness, or is it explained by something deeper? Further, the unity of consciousness may put strong constraints on a theory of consciousness. If consciousness is necessarily unified, then a correct theory of consciousness should at least be compatible with this unity."
Source: What is the Unity of Consciousness?
Tim Bayne and David J. Chalmers
Department of Philosophy
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721.
[[Published in A. Cleeremans (ed.), The Unity of Consciousness: Binding, Integration, Dissociation (Oxford, 2003).]]
consc.net/papers/unity.html
@@jackryan7312 yes I like this. I studied Philosophy at University but work in IT...This probably explains why I think about this too much. I read hard science as an interest on the side.
I have had both subjective and objective results personally and with another person in regards to consciousness and communication. I have witnessed phenomena I can't explain. I really didn't think much about these experiences being real on reading or hearing about them, that was until I started to dig deeper and see for myself.
@@jackryan7312 I'm also starting to think of our 3D space as just an illusion more and more, which then brings me back again to the singularity question of Spacetime and our consciousness.
I see our experience of 3D space in the same way a computer character sees their given format of 3D space in a simulation. So even though a character is running from point a to point point b in the game, they are really going 'nowhere' on the 2D plain on which they are being repsented. We are just experiencing a particular format, or User interface, of actual reality...whatever that really looks like....
Everything exists because it is being 'observed' and represented via an infinite repetitive iterative chain of assymmetric representations/copies/clones... When you look at reality's constant, which is relative change, you start to see reality as just a constant dirty, or imperfect copy, of itself. If it replicated perfectly then it wouldn't by definition be a copy because it would the same thing... I see change in terms of frequencies that are spiral rather than perfectly circular in their rotational "symmetry". So when I look at the electromagnetic spectrum's peaks and troughs moving forward in a given direction, I see that I can draw a spiral tunnel in my mind...So light is bound by a spiral dimension which again puts me back in the assymmetric rotation thought process..A spiral is a circle with imperfect rotational symmetry as its angle keeps changing... I then think that angular momentum has something to do with getting around not having a huge mass to warp spacetime...I think about this tooooo much
The universe has always been conscious, you’re just now starting to notice.
It’s actually comforting knowing I’m on earth and not some chaotic and lonely place in the universe where you feel nothing but fear
... for now.
When you take acid or shrooms you get this we are all one feeling. Seems like it's maybe true that we literally are all one. Not metaphorically or symbolically, actually one. Forces of good we need your help! Please share light to us all, we don't need dark balance we have too much of that let the love in! its time for the light!
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mushrooms might be far more important than we think
you ever watched “fantastic fungi”
it seems the mushroom roots (mycelium) might be the brain of life on the planet.
mycelium runs through the ground almost everywhere. the more life there is the more mycelium there is, forests for example are usually completely sitting in a big pile of mushroom roots.
@@tristan6773 That is very interesting, I'll check it out!
Bobby delivered those clever insights, sometimes even with resource credits, so seemingly effortlessly, and with such rich grammar. Truly incredible.
It is consciousness. As you develop your own consciousness, along with billions of others, that further develops, deepens or flavours the universes’ many facets of awareness. Beyond comprehension yet you may experience it. I love it’s large scale fractal blueprint for neuron connections in the brain. Gorgeous!
We have the Bible. It happens exactly like Jesus says it happens. You have truth, you just have to read it for yourself.
@Avery Breaux except that the Bible accurately defines sin, rebellion toward God and if you seek, truly, you will find. That’s all true, that’s how I know it’s real. I’ve seen it in living proof in my life.
Some scientist once claimed Universe works on a highly complex math equation. I myself believe in thinking in probabilities as a means of creating realities, like 'what are the odds of me thinking this and it happening just now' highly unlikely right but yes, probable.
What I think is if the majority of us like me, after watching this video have made up their mind about the universe getting conscious with life, congratulations we have just created 'the' reality and the gravity of it may soon attractive space and time to bring it into our disposal!
I think we need to start with the singularity, of which the universe emerged. It seems to me, that point of infinite density and gravity, was one single thing. It still is, in a sense, one single thing, because when the Bang occurred, it was not an explosion, (as a bang infers), but an expansion, of that one single thing. Science acknowledges that the expansion created space itself. On the other hand, if it had been an explosion, it would have exploded into surrounding space. So 13.7 billion years later, it is still one single thing, which appears to us as many things.
Personally, I think there may be conscious, and spiritual implications to this, which hint at something grand, beyond our comprehension.
1: "what came 1st?" 1a: "The big crush or the big bang?".... its basically a chicken/egg issue, and neither answer could possibly be correct.
You don't seem to understand an explosion is an expansion
I think about possibility of God through the lens of “the infinite God” .. so many things about God are starting to align with what we know about the universe through science.
Your use of the comma makes my ass itch.
I’m in agreement, to a certain extent. Each of us is the so-called “Big Bang” and we are all simply looking into ourselves- the infinite grand design of our universal expansion- from innumerable vantage points. Within each of our innumerable incarnations of various forms we experience various points of awareness from these innumerable vantage points with the help of the bodily form and it’s senses- the brain acting as a sort of reducing valve and transistor.
Hens, as our awareness becomes expanded, we become increasingly aware of the unlimited expansion of our universal-self and all of the various points of awareness.
The universe has BEEN conscious, we're only just now discovering that fact.
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I have a feeling Joe has experienced the universal conscience from within and knows very well they're a few conciousness out there way more develope than ours and that the fact that we're slow to learn is making us fall behind the universal evolution of consciousness, we should be know as Omnisapiens at this stage on earth's lets say ''plan'' and be working at a level of efficiency way higher than we're used to. Would love to have a chat with Joe about this even if is off the air.
Slow to learn compared to what?
Private gods?
If humans can be accused of anything, its learning things too quick. We accrue knowledge we can't contextualise and use it to affect things without understanding how that knocks on in a grander scale.
You'd need gigantic system changes to change that aspect of human nature. Individuals would have to live much longer to able to organise said knowledge in a helpful way. We'd have to be able to store and contextualise petebytes of data to accurately map causal chains etc.
We're simply limited by our biology and its unreasonable to argue that we're slow to learn. Especially when you're comparing us to what I imagine is your own private experiences with what is in all liklihood an idealised view of what you think conscious beings should be.
We're advancing very quickly, and changing core modes such as Individual life span and access to data is stuff we're already discussing.
Who knows how quickly it will speed up once those balls start rolling.
It’s even deeper than that
@@Cernunnnos reserved gods
@@iamchris8201 how?
@@Android-jass we humans embody light and dark which ultimately is called chaos we are demi gods of our reality we create we want with our minds all within
Something outside of time and space has to create the universe seeing that everything created needs a creator.
Been saying that in the most simplistic term since a child and everybody either intentionally misunderstands or dismisses it. Id always say something along the lines of something can't come from nothing and if you believe that then it's no longer science.
@@davyjones7813 yeah exactly and I've always thought about God as something far superior and different than anything in time and space. It's the most logical and rational conclusion a person can come to if they get rid of all the social bias nonsense they've been taught
who created the creator of that?
@@jojomojo3847 Thats an illogical question. It's like asking who created the uncreated. Everything in space and time has to be created. something outside of space and time doesn't need creation seeing that it's not part of creation or time.
@@jojomojo3847 not a very intelligent response. Religion acknowledge a sense of magic something coming from nothing or just a unexplainable divine being that has always been while science will try and give a straight answer to a never ending question
Joe Rogan is so good at keeping a conversation going man I would have been a bit Intimidated to anwser some of his questions
*Let's be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this :*
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It was rather impressive by Michio Kaku who is 75, although so smart, to answer Joe's barrage of wide array of questions almost instantly.
@@PsilocybeJedi He’s older and has had more time to think of these type of concepts.