Happy you enjoyed it - switching sequencers to Ableton recently, adapting to it from Renoise - this is my latest release on Mille Plateau - forceincmilleplateaux.bandcamp.com/album/compartments Ableton has a larger, rounder sound to it, but it harder to compose this style of music in (totally different sequencer). But the sounds Ableton can produce... Holy cow.
Well, Renoise's 'sound' on Ableton isn't terribly easy, in fact, I switched to Ableton because I was trying to get the Max/MSP sound in Renoise and failed :D You'll need to listen to artists who compose in various odd forms of music to really get the 'sound'. A few other things come to mind. Get really good with the Operator (FM) synth in Ableton, and use filters as more 'absolute' forms of EQ - sculpt the sound to fit only a defined set of frequencies - this makes room for other sounds to be heard, and less work for you at the end of the process. Take a look at synthesizing every drum/percussion sound - in Renoise, every melodic sound was primarily made via single-cycle waveforms, and every drum/percussion sound was synthesized or is some form of a click/pop. As for M4Ls, more often than not, I just use the Operator synthesizer. For pads/drones - check out additive and spectral synthesis and find what works for you. Lots of free simple M4Ls if you want drums and clicks/pops. Most importantly, don't touch other folks' audio works. Make all your own sounds - no substitutions. It takes a long time. Go outside with a recorder, record sounds around you, learn how to slice those up in Ableton (pretty easy if you research it). I don't know you, I don't know how long you have been using synthesizers. If you're new to them, make audio synthesis and sound design your new passion. There are always new things to learn about with it. This truly is the most important part of all - practice it non-stop, think about it non-stop. Ableton doesn't have an easy way to compose outside of the usual time-signatures, unless you want excessively repetitive rhythms. You're going to have to find a way to make your own tuplets, and that takes forever. Finally, join forums on the software and research.
@@NeuroNoNeuro Thank you so much for your reply I released an album in March and found my weaknesses and am looking for new sounds According to you, rewire renoise to Ableton looks good too I've been looking for a lot of glitch skills or plugins available in Ableton but haven't found anything I like. Especially, I didn't like the plug-in sound because it was like edm music, I need to find out more, my English is not good enough, so my English may not be natural because I use a translator, thank you!
@@sgghaghashg No problem - study artists from Audiobulb, Mille Plateaux, LINEimprint, 12k - you'll find a lot of gifts through these labels. Study 'microsound' 'lowercase'. Study minimalist architecture/minimalism. Then, study yourself; your mind. Most types of tracks in this style can be sculpted from this type of research. Truly, though, study sound design, audio mixing. You can do a lot without a lot of devices. Renoise, for example, is cheap and if you really work hard with the tools it has, you won't need Ableton for much of it. Ableton is for going deeper into sound-design territory. Renoise is actually perfect for much of the more abstract styles of music.
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Happy you enjoyed it - switching sequencers to Ableton recently, adapting to it from Renoise - this is my latest release on Mille Plateau - forceincmilleplateaux.bandcamp.com/album/compartments
Ableton has a larger, rounder sound to it, but it harder to compose this style of music in (totally different sequencer). But the sounds Ableton can produce... Holy cow.
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Thank you very much! 🙂
Hi how can I get the Almost Drums sound of renosie on ableton? and what kind of m4l do you use?
Well, Renoise's 'sound' on Ableton isn't terribly easy, in fact, I switched to Ableton because I was trying to get the Max/MSP sound in Renoise and failed :D You'll need to listen to artists who compose in various odd forms of music to really get the 'sound'.
A few other things come to mind. Get really good with the Operator (FM) synth in Ableton, and use filters as more 'absolute' forms of EQ - sculpt the sound to fit only a defined set of frequencies - this makes room for other sounds to be heard, and less work for you at the end of the process.
Take a look at synthesizing every drum/percussion sound - in Renoise, every melodic sound was primarily made via single-cycle waveforms, and every drum/percussion sound was synthesized or is some form of a click/pop.
As for M4Ls, more often than not, I just use the Operator synthesizer. For pads/drones - check out additive and spectral synthesis and find what works for you. Lots of free simple M4Ls if you want drums and clicks/pops.
Most importantly, don't touch other folks' audio works. Make all your own sounds - no substitutions. It takes a long time. Go outside with a recorder, record sounds around you, learn how to slice those up in Ableton (pretty easy if you research it). I don't know you, I don't know how long you have been using synthesizers. If you're new to them, make audio synthesis and sound design your new passion. There are always new things to learn about with it. This truly is the most important part of all - practice it non-stop, think about it non-stop.
Ableton doesn't have an easy way to compose outside of the usual time-signatures, unless you want excessively repetitive rhythms. You're going to have to find a way to make your own tuplets, and that takes forever.
Finally, join forums on the software and research.
@@NeuroNoNeuro Thank you so much for your reply I released an album in March and found my weaknesses and am looking for new sounds According to you, rewire renoise to Ableton looks good too I've been looking for a lot of glitch skills or plugins available in Ableton but haven't found anything I like. Especially, I didn't like the plug-in sound because it was like edm music, I need to find out more, my English is not good enough, so my English may not be natural because I use a translator, thank you!
@@sgghaghashg No problem - study artists from Audiobulb, Mille Plateaux, LINEimprint, 12k - you'll find a lot of gifts through these labels. Study 'microsound' 'lowercase'. Study minimalist architecture/minimalism. Then, study yourself; your mind. Most types of tracks in this style can be sculpted from this type of research.
Truly, though, study sound design, audio mixing. You can do a lot without a lot of devices. Renoise, for example, is cheap and if you really work hard with the tools it has, you won't need Ableton for much of it. Ableton is for going deeper into sound-design territory. Renoise is actually perfect for much of the more abstract styles of music.