I love how once you defeat him, he doesn't even ask or object when you make him a part of your party. He's just like "👍" on the inside and then you grab him like a goober.
That's probably because he sees the Nahabino as someone worthy of his time. Dude's last appearance in a different game was treating everyone like scrubs and just kind of going off after afterwards. In here, he thinks that the long-haired guy is worthy of his time and just kind of joins him because he's earnt his respect.
Last game he appeared in was the smt4 apoc dlc. He still treats everyone like a scrub there though, a lot more cocky. Seems to have mellowed out after his ending and just let his gf do the talking here though
I love how the Pixie dialogues imply that, despite being one of the most powerful characters in the multiverse, the Demi-fiend still struggles with Demon Negotiation like any other SMT protagonist would.
@@silverman1205 "hey are you strong?" "yes" "DIE!" *retry* "hey are you strong?" "no" "THEN DIE!" *retry* "hey are you strong?" "yes" "OH COOL!, i'll join you then :D but gimme 90% of your health, some macca and a life bead" to get a god damn SLIME. even then it might still piss off. seriously, negotiations in nocturne are the worst.
@@godsplayingfieldi remember they kept that in 4 cuz someone managed to get the same dialogue starter for one demon and he got wrong answering two different answers, makes the text just flavour instead of having any point
More like a companion that earned his respect, since it is said that he disrespects the weak. With the Nahobino showing that he is capable of keeping up with him through combat, he has seen him as a respected individual and partner for the unseen future. It seems that despite becoming a “True Demon”, his original human self is still a part of him.
@@XelchanTheBrave I mean, given he lost all his friends in the previous world, I think he'd get lonely and would want to chat up other high-school students his age.
Amanozako: If Demi-fiend were to consume the Masakados magatama.... Nahobino: It might give me a bit of trouble Amanozako: But would you lose? Nahobino: Nah, I'd win (after 50 tries)
@@elivcdxv1852 That's the charm about the SMT series. Had a situation where I complimented a demon once, and they attacked me, but the next turn i talked to them again and they tried to ignore me. I spammed getting their attention like 4 times and they basically went "OK FINE I'LL JOIN YOU IF YOU STOP".
I once played smt3 on an emulator Went to negotiate Got two choices Used status save to not f*ck this up Both choices ended up of me losing 3 hours of progress
When you remember demifiend is just a human who got a parasite like creature I forgot the name of to compete in a massive war to decide the fate of the world, and be the deciding factor on what dominated the world, the plot is really no different between five and three. Though looks like they leaned to his chaos ending considering it implies he is the bane of god itself. Which would mean if he was tied more to the story, then Lucifer aka Satan would have mentioned him likely being the deciding factor on satan taking the throne in the SMTV plot line. Which a fun semi direct connection that SMTV likely is set after nocturne in direct continuity itself.
@@supermariogamer5294 it’s been ages since I played the actual ps2 edition and I was busy with other things to snag up the remaster edition, man I have been away from SMT titles since the last one I did was devil summoner 2 when it was heavily discounted and before that was probably persona 5 strikers and vanilla persona 5
The idea that the Demifiend is still just kind of a Goober is the best revelation in this series. He is the defacto KING OF CHAOS and he still messes up demon negotiation from time to time.
So what I learned is that Demi-Fiend is so jacked up as a boss that once he joins, he's just as jacked up when you fought him... Well damn Atlus... Demi-Fiend is just as strong as he was back in SMT 3 Nocturne. Pretty lore accurate right there.
He literally is the epitome of the Sigma Grindset. The punches don't stop, ever. The weak are constantly beaten into submission and forced friendship. To the Demi-Fiend there is no "leg day" or "arm day", there is only "casual walk wherever the fuck I want day with the usual shit happening". It. Does. Not. STOP.
Crazy how they nerfed demi fiend when you fight him then makes him lore accurate when he is playable Like where was that enduring soul and stupid resistances in the fight ?
The classic older protagonist who mastered abilities and powers. teaming up with the new protagonist that’s becoming even stronger with the new Nahobino form.
Bro... I named my protag in both SMT Nocturne and SMT V vengeance Kiryu Kazuma... as an homage to Dragon of Dojima. Funny seeing someone else relating badass characters to Kiryu 😂
I just find it interesting how much of a "I heard you're pretty strong" character Demi-Fiend is Yet after the last war, he chose to just chill in his own realm with his waifu lol
well....kinda depressing though if you assume this Naoki (his name btw) is the same one in the other games hes showed up in where its stated he lost the battle against god and this is the only universe where he did win and then you realize just how empty it really was
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq It Is NEVER stated that Demifiend lost the battle against YHVH Up until Canon of Vengeance released, it's been left ambiguous. Lucifer's demon haunt confirms that they were victorious and the demifiend we see in SMT Imagine is canon.
@@NoobsUnited9000 So it kinda more or less confirms that SMTV is Nocturne sequel. After Lucifer's victory, another war ensues and since the throne is empty, it's up to the nahobinos to fill it
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq That was exclusive event for SMTIV Apocalypse. In that event, all of the messiahs were destined to fail until Nanashi came to help, not just Demi-Fiend. So, it's unrelated to canon unless you want to count amala network concept with it
I love how the game acknowledges the similarities between the Demi fiend and the nahobino with that one comment from pixie about how Demi fiend went from human to demon , and Nahobino went from Human to god, which is why i literally just refer to the Nahobino as " the demi-god" . This is also seen in one of the trailers Atlus west put out for SMTVV stating something along the lines of "Play Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance and take the role of a powerful Demi God". Pretty cool stuff indeed. Despite SMTV's flaws back then i still loved it , now , I cherrish it a lot more than I did before. Great game no doubt.
"Will you join me, Demi-Fien-" "YES." "Don't say no yet, I can offer yo-Well uh...huh." "Yeah." "You know, fight aside, that was rather easy..." "Look, buddy, I still remember all the demon negotiation bullshit that I went through in Nocturne. I'll put you through a hellish fight, not THAT."
Imagine if Demi-Fiend is a whole another level of petty that he'd just ask for a shit ton of Life Stones and 1 million Macca just for revenge from all the times he got mugged.
Like Pixie said, that would be a bit much of stretch and since this game is a direct sequel to nocturne, then a long time has already passed since then.
He wasn't the only one that cared, but seeing as you can use both types of unique moves as either form it does make a little sense to have both blade styles in both forms. Still bothers the hell out of me tho.
Secret boss rewards should always be a power trip to have massive fun. I’m sick and tired of games that make it a tedious farm and the rewards are simply a barely better farming spot for stuff you could previously get or stuff that just automatically can one shot you at what May or may not be a marginally small increase of damage for you.
I hope in future SMT titles you get the option to recruit previous SMT characters(whether they be messaihs or other equally strong/intresting chracters) as guest party members. SMT 4 Apocolpyse kind of did this with that specail mission for Steven. More of that.
I've been looking forward to this video! So basically permanent unless you try to use him to fight himself. I'm so glad there's basically no restrictions on using him. I'm so unreasonably excited to have him on the team!
I mean, if they did this they would have to add him and Vergil too, since he got more popular after DMCV's release, and that would cost a fortune. It's more easy for Atlus to do an "Messiahs in the Diamond Realm 2" than this. @@Hello_There57
I was gonna hold off in buying this game since I bought V literally the day before vengeance was announce and am now salty. Might get it though just because big man DF actually joins the crew
Remember, in DDS 1, he hijacked the battle theme to his normal encounter theme because you didn't seem to be a threat. You get a remix here, which makes it seem like he's actually taking this fight seriously. My head canon anyway.
I like the idea of Demi Fiend being not chatty. Imagine dying in the apocalypse, revived and demonified against your will, only to see there are no more humans, an inverted world overrun by demons, and the only humans who survived and you treasure ended up looking at you as mere tools to manifest, and/or threat, to their ideals. Adding in to the fact you are literally chased by physical manifestation of Deaths and having only demons to converse with, his slowly deteriorating humanity and ascension to nahobino equivalent of being a complete god, made him apathetic to anything but his own cause
when they fighting together it reminds me of the scene in one piece were luffy and ace met in alabasta and just casually talk to each other while fighting and punching marines
@@lucifercon4868 i mean just earlier the person behind the female nahobino mod for the original started porting their works to vengeance so its likely only a matter of time regardless
1:09 I fully believe you : ) Also are you still planning on showing off his moves on the nahobino in his new form? I won't be able to play the game myself for a while so it would be cool to see them!
I like how they make a point of saying he can use items in battle, as if everyone hasn't already gotten the Magatsuhi skill that does that for everyone
Concerning his Magatsuhi Skill; Random Magatsuhi Enemies can randomly have Big Bang as an attack. Cue getting hit by an attack dealing 800+ Damage in the area on Canon of Creation...
Wondering the point of recruiting him since you can probably wash the floor with the other superboss already if you can defeat him. Unless you can keep him or skip the fiends to directly re-recruit him in ng+, but i doubt it
It's just for the novelty and personal satisfaction. It's kinda like some games where if you beat the game on hard, you'll unlock infinite ammo for your guns. You don't need it since you beat the game on hard without it, but it's just a 'go ahead you earned your fun'.
Fallout Boy playing “let’s be alone together” as Demi-Fiend and Pixie having a little canoodling session when ol’ boi, Nahobino and his posse rolls up. “Yo! We wanted this space for our ‘photo shoot’.” as he points to Artemis, Idun, and Cleopatra. Demi-fiend puts up a good fight but gets kicked out and later recruited for genuine talent…just how I imagined it. lol didn’t intend to write a fanfic. Anyway, glad they didn’t totally nerf Demi-Fiend. He is a badass and should have awesome skills and stats.
Since this demifiend is clearly from SMT III nocturne’s chaos ending, it can be implied that demifiend decided to be bored and go suplex satan after he helped Satan to take down god back in the SMT3 nocturne chaos ending route. Which makes sense considering how utterly annoyed he be after how much crap he went thru of getting demolished in nocturne with how many bosses pull a lot of BS on him back in the day.
@@blastmole299 Sorry im talking about Satan/Lucifer/more then likely the blond hair kid/old-man who pretty much is the guy leading you down the true demon path in nocturne from what i recall correctly. hard to remember every single elements of a game that might as well be 20 years old at this point.
@@Hello_There57if he has charge the fight would be easier as he'd lose a skill slot and waste press turns charging and attacking instead of just attacking twice (charge only gives a 1.8x boost in SMTV).
1:09 ... yeah, I don't care if it's true or not (most likely you're telling the truth), because the reason of the video starts at 1:43, you really did it fast, not to mention that shows how one who's very used to the SMT games can make these type of things possible, I'm glad that I got the game (on Xbox, I have to give my Xbox One some love here and there you know), I have to admit that having a very challenging game is nice for a change for me when it comes in the RPG department... if you know what I mean.
"You teo high school kids", ah yes, the strongest demon and a super god that is by far the strongest character in smt period, one who beat a lucifer turned nahobino that ascended far beyond yhvh
Hum, when you play Godborn difficulty all enemies get their levels to 150, right? Does that mean once the guest Demi-fiend joins your party he will be at level 150 too?
@@Doctor...7-g8j this is late but whatever godborn mode is a hiden new game plus mode ulocked by beating a super boss in the COV it raises the level cap of all playable characters to 150 and has the enemies levels all raised to 150 as well. I haven't managed to beat the boss that unlocks it myself yet so have fun with that.
Hey there, Quick question, I want to start a NG+ on Godborn, and I wanted to know, as Demi-Fiend is a Guest character, if I start a NG+, would he still be in my party at the start of the NG+, or would I have to redo the quests to unlock him once again ?
@@soulthesassyassassin3616 He nulled everything in his SMT Imagine fight and in his dds boss fight he nulled everything except earth and gun. So it was pretty much the standard before.
"I did not switch to safety difficulty to recruit him to my party I swear" Same energy as "We definitely need to write a song about how we DO NOT diddle kids" 😂
It sucks that Nocturne went out of its ways to shake things up through Reasons but Atlus still chose to pick TDE as the absolute canon because of fanservice.... and even in the fanservice context it makes no sense because the TDE Demifiend would want to destroy existence as Lucifer's little bitc--- I mean, puppet instead of allying with whatever protag you play as (Nanashi, Nahobino, etc). Thi is non-canon anyway (only very few things are canon in this series), but it still bothers me. They could've easily picked a Demifiend that hasn't gotten any ending yet instead of propagating more TDE wankery. They could have even let you choose a flavor of Demifiend so the nature of Nocturne's story could be reflected properly. But nooo let's make him Luci's DDLG slave.
I love how once you defeat him, he doesn't even ask or object when you make him a part of your party. He's just like "👍" on the inside and then you grab him like a goober.
That's probably because he sees the Nahabino as someone worthy of his time. Dude's last appearance in a different game was treating everyone like scrubs and just kind of going off after afterwards. In here, he thinks that the long-haired guy is worthy of his time and just kind of joins him because he's earnt his respect.
@@SirNoobishland wich game demi fiend appears before and treat everyone like scrubs? sorry im new
@@dikamenrider6030Digital Devil Saga
They aren’t kidding on scrub part because Demi using only mid game moves + Gaea Rage as instant game over
And to be fair, Demi had his fair share of goobering guest characters into his party.
Last game he appeared in was the smt4 apoc dlc. He still treats everyone like a scrub there though, a lot more cocky. Seems to have mellowed out after his ending and just let his gf do the talking here though
Lucifer: *sees Nahobino pull up to his domain to throw hands*
" oh shit"
*Demi Fiend walk in right behind him*
"OH SHIT"
This made my day 😂
Critical-Critical-High King-High King.
*Insert Mahito getting jumped gif*
Lucifer: I'M IN DANGER.GIF
@@lucasm.3864 I imagine someone would rotoscope of them jumping on Lucifer, that would be so fucking funny lol
I love how the Pixie dialogues imply that, despite being one of the most powerful characters in the multiverse, the Demi-fiend still struggles with Demon Negotiation like any other SMT protagonist would.
yeah king of CHAOOOS getting mugged by low level demons is gotta be the funniest shit ever
Having the social skills of a carrot, well, strength doesnt equal social skills
What do you expect? The correct answers never seem to make sense
@@silverman1205 "hey are you strong?" "yes" "DIE!" *retry* "hey are you strong?" "no" "THEN DIE!" *retry* "hey are you strong?" "yes" "OH COOL!, i'll join you then :D but gimme 90% of your health, some macca and a life bead" to get a god damn SLIME. even then it might still piss off. seriously, negotiations in nocturne are the worst.
@@godsplayingfieldi remember they kept that in 4 cuz someone managed to get the same dialogue starter for one demon and he got wrong answering two different answers, makes the text just flavour instead of having any point
Demifiend has become Demifriend
More like a companion that earned his respect, since it is said that he disrespects the weak.
With the Nahobino showing that he is capable of keeping up with him through combat, he has seen him as a respected individual and partner for the unseen future.
It seems that despite becoming a “True Demon”, his original human self is still a part of him.
He always has been :) he can befriend everyone
@@XelchanTheBrave I mean, given he lost all his friends in the previous world, I think he'd get lonely and would want to chat up other high-school students his age.
hey
@@johntitor4287he’s in his 30s, though to be fair he probably has the mental age of a high school student
The strongest demon in history
VS
The strongest god of today
Looks like sukuna vs satoru
Are demi fiend for defeated Lúcifer or you defeated lucifer because you are DemiFiend?
Nahobino: "Nah I'd win"
And in the end, they teamed up
Amanozako: If Demi-fiend were to consume the Masakados magatama....
Nahobino: It might give me a bit of trouble
Amanozako: But would you lose?
Nahobino: Nah, I'd win (after 50 tries)
I like how even Pixie thinks it’s funny to see the protag eat shit after a negotiation backfires lol
Fr 🤣
"What do you think of my skin?"
>It looks soft?
"GET HIS ASS."
anyways demon negotiations are a ton of fun
@@elivcdxv1852 That's the charm about the SMT series.
Had a situation where I complimented a demon once, and they attacked me, but the next turn i talked to them again and they tried to ignore me. I spammed getting their attention like 4 times and they basically went "OK FINE I'LL JOIN YOU IF YOU STOP".
@@ThatGuyInTheBack007 real
I once played smt3 on an emulator
Went to negotiate
Got two choices
Used status save to not f*ck this up
Both choices ended up of me losing 3 hours of progress
Remember folks,
That thing that’s poking out of the back of the Demifiend’s neck isn’t stylized hair. It’s a demon parasite.
you know for a fact he's a side sleeper, or he just sleeps face down, like in his death animation
It's kind of fucked that it acts as a second brain so he can use Magatsuhi. The question is will it get angry if someone pokes it?
@@tomsmith6379 i'm sure Demi-fiend would punch the person for even thinking of it.
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 nah he promptly bisects them with his bare hands and feeds the remains to pixie.
@@elivcdxv1852If he even has to sleep that is.
Kinda like that his pixie is canonicaly the demon he hangs out with the most. After all that was the 1st demon thay journeyed with him.
That's his waifu that's why
It IS the first Demon he recruited. Like no joke, that is the original Super Pixie. The one you get by bringing your Pixie to the Kalpas
Basically his only real friend, given what happened to Chiaki, and Isamu by like, the midway of Nocturne.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 I ship them
@@jackfdhunter7036 Ride or Die waif pixie
Pixie is basically Demi Fiends Navi. She even speaks for him.
i like to imagine Amanozako is that for Nahobino tbh
I see Pixie as Demi Fiend’s Pikachu lmao, first demon ally he ever made
@@MinatotheGreenLanternand if you take the amala labyrinth stuff as canon his pixie is literally THE super pixie with max stats
Pixie is the embodiment of the EXCUSE ME HE ASKED FOR NO PICKLES meme
I just realised he's wearing a pair of sneakers, the contrast is quite funny when you consider most demons are wearing stuffs from mythologies
When you remember demifiend is just a human who got a parasite like creature I forgot the name of to compete in a massive war to decide the fate of the world, and be the deciding factor on what dominated the world, the plot is really no different between five and three.
Though looks like they leaned to his chaos ending considering it implies he is the bane of god itself.
Which would mean if he was tied more to the story, then Lucifer aka Satan would have mentioned him likely being the deciding factor on satan taking the throne in the SMTV plot line.
Which a fun semi direct connection that SMTV likely is set after nocturne in direct continuity itself.
Indeed. Demi Fiend is a man, a myth, and a legend. The True Demon Ending is well worth the investment in SMT 3.
@@BladeSerphthe thing Lucifer gave him is a Magatama, Marogareh to be specific, said Magatama is enhanced even further by Lucifer as well.
I mean his earth was sent to ruin and the timeline he’s in is ancient history so you could say that Tokyo is now but a myth to him now.
@@supermariogamer5294 it’s been ages since I played the actual ps2 edition and I was busy with other things to snag up the remaster edition, man I have been away from SMT titles since the last one I did was devil summoner 2 when it was heavily discounted and before that was probably persona 5 strikers and vanilla persona 5
“Playable Demi-Fiend.”
* Backflips *
paul phoenix approved
I feel atlus saw that mod on the vanilla and went 'fuck we shoulda did that' and implamented it lol
Then went ‘but let’s not make him permanent’.
The idea that the Demifiend is still just kind of a Goober is the best revelation in this series.
He is the defacto KING OF CHAOS and he still messes up demon negotiation from time to time.
Slime: What do you want, scrub?
Demifiend (flanked by Metatron and Beelzebub): I-
Slime: Piss off! *attacks*
Pixie: ha-ha.
I mean, hey, demon be demon-ing
So what I learned is that Demi-Fiend is so jacked up as a boss that once he joins, he's just as jacked up when you fought him... Well damn Atlus... Demi-Fiend is just as strong as he was back in SMT 3 Nocturne. Pretty lore accurate right there.
too bad we dont get a playable angel lucifer.
He literally is the epitome of the Sigma Grindset. The punches don't stop, ever. The weak are constantly beaten into submission and forced friendship. To the Demi-Fiend there is no "leg day" or "arm day", there is only "casual walk wherever the fuck I want day with the usual shit happening".
It. Does. Not. STOP.
Crazy how they nerfed demi fiend when you fight him then makes him lore accurate when he is playable
Like where was that enduring soul and stupid resistances in the fight ?
@@Hello_There57 probably a way to balance him
Winning in his fight is just activating his enduring soul. Because after you win, he just stands there. Hes going easy on you.@@Hello_There57
pixie acting like his mother lol
It's his girlfriend after all.
Mommywife
Mommy dom pixie.
The classic older protagonist who mastered abilities and powers. teaming up with the new protagonist that’s becoming even stronger with the new Nahobino form.
Demi-Fiend is the Atlus' equivalent of Kazuma Kiryu.
The player sees him, they automatically knows they have a badass right in front of him.
Bro... I named my protag in both SMT Nocturne and SMT V vengeance Kiryu Kazuma... as an homage to Dragon of Dojima. Funny seeing someone else relating badass characters to Kiryu 😂
If they really are going to retire kiryu, it would be so funny to make him a bonus boss in a future SMT game
@@eieneidnf Kiryu uses Tiger Drop
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99 999 damage
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKK
I just find it interesting how much of a "I heard you're pretty strong" character Demi-Fiend is
Yet after the last war, he chose to just chill in his own realm with his waifu lol
well....kinda depressing though if you assume this Naoki (his name btw) is the same one in the other games hes showed up in where its stated he lost the battle against god and this is the only universe where he did win and then you realize just how empty it really was
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
It Is NEVER stated that Demifiend lost the battle against YHVH Up until Canon of Vengeance released, it's been left ambiguous. Lucifer's demon haunt confirms that they were victorious and the demifiend we see in SMT Imagine is canon.
@@NoobsUnited9000 So it kinda more or less confirms that SMTV is Nocturne sequel. After Lucifer's victory, another war ensues and since the throne is empty, it's up to the nahobinos to fill it
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq That was exclusive event for SMTIV Apocalypse. In that event, all of the messiahs were destined to fail until Nanashi came to help, not just Demi-Fiend. So, it's unrelated to canon unless you want to count amala network concept with it
@@snailthelostcow63 amala network shanigans kinda is mandatory since it literally says its multiple universes going through conception event lol
I love how the game acknowledges the similarities between the Demi fiend and the nahobino with that one comment from pixie about how Demi fiend went from human to demon , and Nahobino went from Human to god, which is why i literally just refer to the Nahobino as " the demi-god" . This is also seen in one of the trailers Atlus west put out for SMTVV stating something along the lines of "Play Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance and take the role of a powerful Demi God". Pretty cool stuff indeed. Despite SMTV's flaws back then i still loved it , now , I cherrish it a lot more than I did before. Great game no doubt.
most peak duo
Lucifer: Son, you have a new brother, be nice
Demi-Fiend and Nahobino the second Lucifer is gone:
"Will you join me, Demi-Fien-"
"YES."
"Don't say no yet, I can offer yo-Well uh...huh."
"Yeah."
"You know, fight aside, that was rather easy..."
"Look, buddy, I still remember all the demon negotiation bullshit that I went through in Nocturne. I'll put you through a hellish fight, not THAT."
Imagine if Demi-Fiend is a whole another level of petty that he'd just ask for a shit ton of Life Stones and 1 million Macca just for revenge from all the times he got mugged.
Image Demi-Fiend and Nahobino did went to the same school!😂
Like Pixie said, that would be a bit much of stretch and since this game is a direct sequel to nocturne, then a long time has already passed since then.
@@toledochristianmatthew9919
Sequel? It just happens after.
They’re from different universes.
Could be same school different years- we never saw him go to school
Their uniforms look nothing alike though?
0:52 they didn't even change the animation to match the blade
The fight was too cool that literally no one but you cared about that.
He wasn't the only one that cared, but seeing as you can use both types of unique moves as either form it does make a little sense to have both blade styles in both forms. Still bothers the hell out of me tho.
Using demi fiend is like straight cheating
But seeing as how hard it is to even get him, it seems like a fair reward.
It would be cheating if he was obtained with illegal methods.
I mean if you can beat him no boss should be a issue anymore
He is easily the strongest enemy in the game
Secret boss rewards should always be a power trip to have massive fun.
I’m sick and tired of games that make it a tedious farm and the rewards are simply a barely better farming spot for stuff you could previously get or stuff that just automatically can one shot you at what May or may not be a marginally small increase of damage for you.
@@BladeSerph Hell Yeah!
THE UBER PIXIE IS BACK
of course she is, that's his wife
Yes but I missed her a lot 🥲
Technically she never left as we can build her ourselves but wouldn't be the same pixie........
3:31 “What!”
I hope in future SMT titles you get the option to recruit previous SMT characters(whether they be messaihs or other equally strong/intresting chracters) as guest party members. SMT 4 Apocolpyse kind of did this with that specail mission for Steven. More of that.
I've been looking forward to this video! So basically permanent unless you try to use him to fight himself. I'm so glad there's basically no restrictions on using him. I'm so unreasonably excited to have him on the team!
Ok but....
Imagine they bring Dante into the game like SMT 3, shits gonna be insane
Dante is a no go because of potential copyright problems
Raidou is the only and the better option
I mean, if they did this they would have to add him and Vergil too, since he got more popular after DMCV's release, and that would cost a fortune. It's more easy for Atlus to do an "Messiahs in the Diamond Realm 2" than this. @@Hello_There57
@@Hello_There57Capcom could want him back in.
PC players could mod him in and others (deadbeat dad, dead weight, or even bayonetta)
0:53 That's not his blade,but somehow the color matched up😂
The games only been out for two days and these people got 80 hours in this game.
(dont quote me on the preorder)
these people got jumpstart by atlus
THATS IT, IM BUYING VENGEANCE
SMT5/SMT3 protags, amanazako and pixie are the dream team!
Featuring the Demifiend from the SMT series.
I was gonna hold off in buying this game since I bought V literally the day before vengeance was announce and am now salty. Might get it though just because big man DF actually joins the crew
Ah i feel you... Just when i was about to join smt community by playing smt V first then nocturne turn out vengeance come out the next day😅
Remember, in DDS 1, he hijacked the battle theme to his normal encounter theme because you didn't seem to be a threat. You get a remix here, which makes it seem like he's actually taking this fight seriously. My head canon anyway.
I like the idea of Demi Fiend being not chatty. Imagine dying in the apocalypse, revived and demonified against your will, only to see there are no more humans, an inverted world overrun by demons, and the only humans who survived and you treasure ended up looking at you as mere tools to manifest, and/or threat, to their ideals.
Adding in to the fact you are literally chased by physical manifestation of Deaths and having only demons to converse with, his slowly deteriorating humanity and ascension to nahobino equivalent of being a complete god, made him apathetic to anything but his own cause
when they fighting together it reminds me of the scene in one piece were luffy and ace met in alabasta and just casually talk to each other while fighting and punching marines
i still love that his true Friend still is by DF's side ...the pixie she is indeed a True friend to him :)
shame he's only a guest character.................... knowing modders they are without a doube gonna rectify that in due time
The only way he's gonna leave you is if you decide to try and cause a space time paradox.
May as well NOT be a guest character.
Knowing that nocturne is already on PC, I am imagining some modder already laying the groundwork to change the MC into the demi fiend
@@lucifercon4868 considering the original alrdy has a perma demi-fiend ally mod this wouldnt surprise me
@@lucifercon4868 i mean just earlier the person behind the female nahobino mod for the original started porting their works to vengeance so its likely only a matter of time regardless
He’s only a guest character because you are allowed to rematch him.
its kinda sad that they didnt port the unique animations from nocturne for jabelein rain and deadly fury, i miss the energy sword of this last one
Aw it's not the overkill Gaea Rage.
Yes that would've broken everything else, but it's the darn Demi-fiend, breaking things is his speciality!
1:09 I fully believe you : )
Also are you still planning on showing off his moves on the nahobino in his new form? I won't be able to play the game myself for a while so it would be cool to see them!
He posted a video showing all of the Nahobino’s unique skills yesterday actually.
I like how they make a point of saying he can use items in battle, as if everyone hasn't already gotten the Magatsuhi skill that does that for everyone
Damn their power level is over 99999. Superbosses don't even stand a chance.
5:33 It's kinda obvious, but I guess it's confirmed that this Demi-Fiend is from True Demon ending.
Hey faz quick question!! Do you need to defeat Demifiend each time you want to recruit him or only once?
once i think
demi friend
07:10 "what tf this femboy spying on me for"
I love how much crisper this version looks not bound by the Switch.
Demi-fiend nerfs himself just to fight Nahobino😭
Wait I just realized, is there any notable change when bringing him to that one Black Frost Quest? (The same one who appeared in Nocturne)
The Black Frost quest only happens in CoC where you can’t recruit him because guests are a CoV exclusive.
Concerning his Magatsuhi Skill; Random Magatsuhi Enemies can randomly have Big Bang as an attack. Cue getting hit by an attack dealing 800+ Damage in the area on Canon of Creation...
Wondering the point of recruiting him since you can probably wash the floor with the other superboss already if you can defeat him.
Unless you can keep him or skip the fiends to directly re-recruit him in ng+, but i doubt it
Satisfaction
It's just for the novelty and personal satisfaction. It's kinda like some games where if you beat the game on hard, you'll unlock infinite ammo for your guns. You don't need it since you beat the game on hard without it, but it's just a 'go ahead you earned your fun'.
Fallout Boy playing “let’s be alone together” as Demi-Fiend and Pixie having a little canoodling session when ol’ boi, Nahobino and his posse rolls up. “Yo! We wanted this space for our ‘photo shoot’.” as he points to Artemis, Idun, and Cleopatra. Demi-fiend puts up a good fight but gets kicked out and later recruited for genuine talent…just how I imagined it. lol didn’t intend to write a fanfic.
Anyway, glad they didn’t totally nerf Demi-Fiend. He is a badass and should have awesome skills and stats.
Bro rolling up to kill gods off all different theologies wearing Jordans.
A true Gigachad
so can you face the final boss with demi-fiend in your party?
Since this demifiend is clearly from SMT III nocturne’s chaos ending, it can be implied that demifiend decided to be bored and go suplex satan after he helped Satan to take down god back in the SMT3 nocturne chaos ending route.
Which makes sense considering how utterly annoyed he be after how much crap he went thru of getting demolished in nocturne with how many bosses pull a lot of BS on him back in the day.
@@BladeSerphIn Nocturne, Satan is just a worm that turned Heeho into Black Frost
@@blastmole299 Sorry im talking about Satan/Lucifer/more then likely the blond hair kid/old-man who pretty much is the guy leading you down the true demon path in nocturne from what i recall correctly.
hard to remember every single elements of a game that might as well be 20 years old at this point.
@@BladeSerphLucifer and Satan are seperate entities in Megaten.
Having these two protags in the party is...
Well, unfair is definitely putting it lightly.
I dunno bro I still love the demi-fiends design
It's my favorite character in the SMT series I remember dying so much on Nocturne 🤣
Did they buff bro?
No they nerfed him
He doesn't have focus and he doesn't null everything in the boss fight
They should've gave him Endur at least
@@Hello_There57he doesn’t need it.
Dud, Did nerf the boss, but MADE THE GUEST CHARACTER LORE FUCKING ACCURATE.
@souldragon9130 yeah but there's something missing
Why does he not have charge ?
Imagine if he had charge in the boss battle😂
@@Hello_There57if he has charge the fight would be easier as he'd lose a skill slot and waste press turns charging and attacking instead of just attacking twice (charge only gives a 1.8x boost in SMTV).
Lucifer: Show me a good time, Nahobino!
Lucifer when you bring the Demi-fiend: Finally, worthy opponents. Our battle will be legendary!
"Once an ordinary high school student, now the bane of God's creation"
The Sith Lord has joined his apprentice in his journey
Not too well versed in SMT lore, that's the dude from Nocturne?
yup
Man that Demon Haunt music is just 👌😤
Demiboy looks so handsome
1:09 ... yeah, I don't care if it's true or not (most likely you're telling the truth), because the reason of the video starts at 1:43, you really did it fast, not to mention that shows how one who's very used to the SMT games can make these type of things possible, I'm glad that I got the game (on Xbox, I have to give my Xbox One some love here and there you know), I have to admit that having a very challenging game is nice for a change for me when it comes in the RPG department... if you know what I mean.
Nueva relación desbloqueada: Demi-fiend 🫶 Nahobino
“Hey demifiend you wanna tag along?”
“Yeah sure. Hey can my other friend come too?”
“Oh yeah whats his name?”
“Dante the son of sparda.”
I just want to point out that this is technically Demi-fiend's third playable appearance
"You teo high school kids", ah yes, the strongest demon and a super god that is by far the strongest character in smt period, one who beat a lucifer turned nahobino that ascended far beyond yhvh
Very cool decision from Atlas to let us have him as guest.
Demi-Fiend: 🧍♂️
They should have added dante
alternative title when two shin megami tensei protags team up
But does he still punch the shit outta people when you do a normal Attack?
Oh yes he does
My boi is back.
we are back babyyyyyy
when do you think you will be able to do a video on these unite skills i have been hearing about?
I love how he is just standing there
I hope one day we can save demi fiends former friends
Pixie: "Without me, he would've died a long time ago!"
Yup, no wonder why he ended up romancing her.
Hum, when you play Godborn difficulty all enemies get their levels to 150, right? Does that mean once the guest Demi-fiend joins your party he will be at level 150 too?
Whats that? I just got the game today and didn't notice that difficulty setting
@@Doctor...7-g8j this is late but whatever godborn mode is a hiden new game plus mode ulocked by beating a super boss in the COV it raises the level cap of all playable characters to 150 and has the enemies levels all raised to 150 as well. I haven't managed to beat the boss that unlocks it myself yet so have fun with that.
No when I got him he was at level 100 unfortunately
Hey there,
Quick question, I want to start a NG+ on Godborn, and I wanted to know, as Demi-Fiend is a Guest character, if I start a NG+, would he still be in my party at the start of the NG+, or would I have to redo the quests to unlock him once again ?
That's cool and all but damn does he really have to null everything. That's just overkill lol
It's his Masakados Magatama
That's how he's been in all of his appearances except for his SMT 5 boss fight for some reason.
@@TehLightraven To be fair I feel like that would be cruel even by SMT standards.
@@soulthesassyassassin3616 He nulled everything in his SMT Imagine fight and in his dds boss fight he nulled everything except earth and gun. So it was pretty much the standard before.
Do you still get his essence ?
I have the same question, I really hope so.
@@anima_magic i think so
There are certain ways, but they're rather lewd
"I did not switch to safety difficulty to recruit him to my party I swear"
Same energy as "We definitely need to write a song about how we DO NOT diddle kids" 😂
I like his shoes
It's crazy that we can recruit him now
Crazy how he made Lucifer look like a joke while Nahobino couldn’t(and Nahobino is supposed to be above him😂)
I find it very funny how Pixie is always the Demi-fiends hype-girl
What is there to do after you recruit him? He's the final challenge and hardest boss, isn't he?
defeat satan with him
@@FazPersona is Satan the last boss or is he an extra hard optional boss?
Superboss yeah
5:18 did pixie referenced digital devil saga?
They just used the old animation. Didn’t even update the finger blade huh
Demi-Fiend join party
The start before the fight felt like a mortal kombat scene
I wanted to take him in NG+ and do a Demi-Fiend run, but Atlus said “no” :(
He wears shoes how have I never noticed him wearing shoes
It sucks that Nocturne went out of its ways to shake things up through Reasons but Atlus still chose to pick TDE as the absolute canon because of fanservice.... and even in the fanservice context it makes no sense because the TDE Demifiend would want to destroy existence as Lucifer's little bitc--- I mean, puppet instead of allying with whatever protag you play as (Nanashi, Nahobino, etc).
Thi is non-canon anyway (only very few things are canon in this series), but it still bothers me. They could've easily picked a Demifiend that hasn't gotten any ending yet instead of propagating more TDE wankery. They could have even let you choose a flavor of Demifiend so the nature of Nocturne's story could be reflected properly. But nooo let's make him Luci's DDLG slave.