I showed this to my teacher and six other kids in Ac Lab! Most of them only LOLed at the part when e and pi wouldn't stop laughing. I laughed at all the math jokes. I am a nerd.
@nickcsd - Well, there's one implied at the end although not stated. A famous identity from Calc is "Euler's Identity," or e raised to the power of (pi)(i) equals -1. So we can credit it for that--if we're feeling generous, anyway!
=e^i*pi =1(cos(pi)+i sin(pi)) ==> cos(pi)=-1 sin(pi)=0 ==> 1(-1+i*0) ==> =-1 avec les coordonnée polaire [1,pi] avec le cercle trigo sera avec dans le point A(-1,0) par calcul de distance sera (-1)
I wish we knew whether e + pi was irrational or not. We're pretty sure it is, though. That will be my goal in life. If you want to get rid of -1, it's better to divide him by zero then square root him!
Thanks that helped a lot! In which area do you use the "e" or that "B*" thing which they order the "food" from? Also could you tell me what "i" has to do with the real letter "e". Thanks for the help!
@GlorifiedTruth I really wouldn't even call Euler's identity calculus. The only aspect of it that comes close to calculus is the fact that it uses limits, which is almost unanimously accepted as a precalculus topic.
@jblocki I think that what they meant (though it was horribly worded) is that any sum of two different transcendental numbers cannot equal a rational number. pi and -pi are both pi, but pi and e are not.
@jblocki The simplest example that two irrationals sum to a rational is pi and -pi. Their sum is obvious and needs no paper and pencil. But yours, (Pi + 1/2) + (1 -pi) = pi + 1/2 + 1 - pi = 1/2 + 1 = 3/2 It's still a good example, though.
@nickcsd - I recently learned it as part of a Taylor-series expansion chapter, but now that you mention it, it was just kind of thrown in there and seems as if it had already been derived.
@bitchslapper12 e is the limit of (1+1/n)^n when n tends to infinite. It's an irrational number, like PI, meaning they cannot be expressed as a fraction ( ration ) hence they belong to R-Q. PI is the ration between the circumference and the diameter of any circle. That is PI = C/d. i is an imaginary or complex number. That is any number that validates i^2 = -1.
The only problem is that in different countries "^" means different things. It's funny that the guys arguing are all correct but they don't understand their operators.
Afterwards I read different ways of calculating pi but of all of them tend to find an irrational. So I wonder: is pi really irrational or are the formulas just taking us there? I was told by an advanced maths student that Niven's demontration of pi's irrationality is not related at all to the circumference.
OKAY, I know this conversation was two years ago, but your comments pissed me off, so I have to say this. No, you are wrong. i^3 = -i, and i^4 = 1, that is a proven fact, if you disagree, you're simply wrong, no matter how you try to insult, you're just fucking wrong. And it IS in math books, go look in one, and fuck you. And the Monty hall problem has been demonstrated in real life.
@evanescence9314 I guess I don't have to say it again, as many people showed that the sum of two irrationals might not be irrational. But I guess the odds that pi + e is rational is infinitesimal. The amount of irrationals is more then the amount of rationals. By an infinite amount, in fact.
So, may be there is an irrational pi, but how can we be certain that the circumference divided by it's diameter is that same irrational number? Couldn't it be that pi is rational but all methods to calculate it are prone to give us irrationals? Please reply if you can explain this... I'm dying to know!!
IF PI = CIRCUMFERENCE / DIAMETER, WHY IS PI IRRATIONAL? (Hi, I'm a pianist who loves maths and I got major doubts about pi) If pi is irrational, then the circumference or the diameter or both are irrational. But if I imagine the historic process by which the concept pi was born, it's impossible to get an irrational pi by taking meassures of circumferences and diameters at home (unless there are simple ways of getting irrational numbers when meassuring).
@randomlaughingman wow, do you understand math at all? I said -i = i^3. That's i times i times i, or i cubed. i = -1^(1/2) or sqrt(-1) i cubed = i time i times i = -1^(1/2) times -1^(1/2) times i = -1^1 times i = -1i = -i It's that simple. I had to write out "times" so it would let me post.
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO Seeing as you recognize that i equals the square root of -1, you'll understand that i^2 = -1 Surely you also know what i^2 times i equals i^3 which equals -1i or -i Furthermore, i^4 = 1 as i^2 * i^2 = (-1)(-1) = 1 i^5 of course, is equal to i because this is simply i^4 * i or 1i It's a cycle that continues into infinity, both ways. i^0 = 1 and i^(-1) = -i and i^(-2) = -1 and i^(-3) = i and i^(-4) =1 If you can find any evidence to prove this false, I'd be happy to see it.
Ok, seriously now. Why the HELL did I laugh at "I love you-clidean plane geometry"? I haven't laughed so much in ages and that joke wasn't even funny. Also e^i*p = -1
Well, obviously it doesn't. Nothing on the internet does. It's all a scam. Especially when you spam people here. Why not try sending it to yourself first?
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO Uh... dude. Your strategy might be working on him, but everyone else here knows you're failing as a troll. So just stop now, and head back to Encyclopedia Dramatica.
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO i is not irrational, it's imaginary. The only thing irrational about this conversation is you. I have no more time to waste on your insufferable ignorance.
I showed this to my teacher and six other kids in Ac Lab! Most of them only LOLed at the part when e and pi wouldn't stop laughing. I laughed at all the math jokes. I am a nerd.
It's the Embree-Trefethen constant.
β* ≈ 0.70258
"Don't listen to him, he's greek!" xD OMG this was fun!
I was waiting for Euler's equation but IT NEVER CAME
Math is my 3rd favourite subject.....
"Don't listen to him. He's GREEK!"
Hahahahaaa!! *roll*
Great Reply!
I couldn't go without LOL!
Such an amazing video!! XD "No! I square rooted you!"
haha...wow thats great. Where did u come up with this idea?
I can't wait until I learn Calculus so I can understand this video!
@nickcsd - Well, there's one implied at the end although not stated. A famous identity from Calc is "Euler's Identity," or e raised to the power of (pi)(i) equals -1. So we can credit it for that--if we're feeling generous, anyway!
Ha, ha, blind date plus math equals funny!!
My little-known brother, -i, should also have appeared!
e divided by pi equals BOOOM.
GOOD THINGS I HOPE
I don’t know why but that zoom in with the pronunciation made me laugh
=e^i*pi
=1(cos(pi)+i sin(pi)) ==> cos(pi)=-1 sin(pi)=0 ==> 1(-1+i*0) ==> =-1
avec les coordonnée polaire [1,pi]
avec le cercle trigo sera avec dans le point A(-1,0) par calcul de distance sera (-1)
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish we knew whether e + pi was irrational or not. We're pretty sure it is, though. That will be my goal in life.
If you want to get rid of -1, it's better to divide him by zero then square root him!
Thanks that helped a lot! In which area do you use the "e" or that "B*" thing which they order the "food" from? Also could you tell me what "i" has to do with the real letter "e". Thanks for the help!
@GlorifiedTruth I really wouldn't even call Euler's identity calculus. The only aspect of it that comes close to calculus is the fact that it uses limits, which is almost unanimously accepted as a precalculus topic.
@jblocki
I think that what they meant (though it was horribly worded) is that any sum of two different transcendental numbers cannot equal a rational number. pi and -pi are both pi, but pi and e are not.
MATH RULES!
@jblocki The simplest example that two irrationals sum to a rational is pi and -pi. Their sum is obvious and needs no paper and pencil. But yours,
(Pi + 1/2) + (1 -pi) = pi + 1/2 + 1 - pi = 1/2 + 1 = 3/2
It's still a good example, though.
hehe, that was awesome!
@nickcsd - I recently learned it as part of a Taylor-series expansion chapter, but now that you mention it, it was just kind of thrown in there and seems as if it had already been derived.
Well, it would mean that either the diameter or the circumference or both are irrationals.
You an calculate pi by a famous succession as well.
it should have ended with i forcing pi to multiply and raise e to the pi*i. well that would be fuun. lol.
OMG that was hilarious!
LMAO!
Euler seems to be forgotten here :P
e + pi = Pie
@bitchslapper12 e is the limit of (1+1/n)^n when n tends to infinite. It's an irrational number, like PI, meaning they cannot be expressed as a fraction ( ration ) hence they belong to R-Q. PI is the ration between the circumference and the diameter of any circle. That is PI = C/d. i is an imaginary or complex number. That is any number that validates i^2 = -1.
LOVE IT
didja know that e ^ (i*pi) = -1?
ooOOOOOoooo!
The only problem is that in different countries "^" means different things. It's funny that the guys arguing are all correct but they don't understand their operators.
"I don't feel comfortable with you rounding me to the nearest tenth". Hahaha took me 6 years to see this video?
Afterwards I read different ways of calculating pi but of all of them tend to find an irrational. So I wonder: is pi really irrational or are the formulas just taking us there? I was told by an advanced maths student that Niven's demontration of pi's irrationality is not related at all to the circumference.
This entire video and no e^(pi*i)?
OKAY, I know this conversation was two years ago, but your comments pissed me off, so I have to say this.
No, you are wrong. i^3 = -i, and i^4 = 1, that is a proven fact, if you disagree, you're simply wrong, no matter how you try to insult, you're just fucking wrong. And it IS in math books, go look in one, and fuck you. And the Monty hall problem has been demonstrated in real life.
Why is the Embree-Trefethen constant serving the equations?
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO what does i^2 equal, hm?
It wasn't me, i did it
@randomlaughingman I didn't look it up, it was just a suggested video and I thought it'd be interesting.
ohhh so cute >''< !!!^^
lol that is so funny!
hahaha. this was funny!
i know what is the o, e and π, but waht doe β* stand for?
i don't feel comfortable with you rounding me to the nearest tenth
i'm totally going to say that now
"it wasn't me i did it!"
@evanescence9314 I guess I don't have to say it again, as many people showed that the sum of two irrationals might not be irrational.
But I guess the odds that pi + e is rational is infinitesimal. The amount of irrationals is more then the amount of rationals. By an infinite amount, in fact.
Someone explain the "maybe I should go" joke?
@evanescence9314 e didn't divide -1 by zero, she said she square-rooted -1, which is i
I didnt do it, i did it!
So, may be there is an irrational pi, but how can we be certain that the circumference divided by it's diameter is that same irrational number? Couldn't it be that pi is rational but all methods to calculate it are prone to give us irrationals? Please reply if you can explain this... I'm dying to know!!
sooo... do you like nature.
@brohtworst5 The square root of 4 is 2. So the square root of -4 is 2i. 2i x 2i = -4.
hahaha...this is great....
This is creepy ._.
IF PI = CIRCUMFERENCE / DIAMETER, WHY IS PI IRRATIONAL?
(Hi, I'm a pianist who loves maths and I got major doubts about pi)
If pi is irrational, then the circumference or the diameter or both are irrational. But if I imagine the historic process by
which the concept pi was born, it's impossible to get an irrational pi by taking meassures of circumferences and diameters
at home (unless there are simple ways of getting irrational numbers when meassuring).
where's episode two to prove e^(pi * i) = -1
I totally thought that's where the relationship was going :P
..And before there was internet, how did you get around it? Oh, right, 15 and know it all. Blonde to boot..well, that explains everything.
what's beta star?
@randomlaughingman wow, do you understand math at all? I said -i = i^3.
That's i times i times i, or i cubed. i = -1^(1/2) or sqrt(-1)
i cubed = i time i times i = -1^(1/2) times -1^(1/2) times i = -1^1 times i = -1i = -i
It's that simple. I had to write out "times" so it would let me post.
Well, this makes about as much sense for me as calculus did... 8-\
But it has yet to be proven that pi + e is irrational. I'm sure it is, but that logic doesn't prove it.
omg... thats all i can say! omg!
~KK~
@randomlaughingman I never said 1 = 3 I said -i = i^3. Neither -i nor i^3 equal 1 or 3.
i is just the square root of -1. Square root of -4 is 2i :P
@bitchslapper12 Save for the one time they said the word "calculus", there isn't a single calculus topic in the video.
wrong. i is only thew square root of -1. the square root of other negative numbers are merely a number as a coefficient of i.
@randomlaughingman -i=i^3
Look it up in any text book or math site. I know what I'm talking about.
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO Seeing as you recognize that i equals the square root of -1, you'll understand that i^2 = -1
Surely you also know what i^2 times i equals i^3 which equals -1i or -i
Furthermore, i^4 = 1 as i^2 * i^2 = (-1)(-1) = 1
i^5 of course, is equal to i because this is simply i^4 * i or 1i
It's a cycle that continues into infinity, both ways.
i^0 = 1 and i^(-1) = -i and i^(-2) = -1 and i^(-3) = i and i^(-4) =1
If you can find any evidence to prove this false, I'd be happy to see it.
@randomlaughingman -i=i^3 duh
Who are you talking to? xD
@abcdef12330 Yes you can.
@randomlaughingman for some reason, it's not letting me respond...
@evanescence9314 Not true! Pi +1/2 is irrational and so is 1-Pi, but (Pi+1/2)+(1-Pi) = 3/2 is rational.
@evanescence9314 Not true! Pi +1/2 is irrational and so is 1-Pi, but (Pi+1/2)+(1-Pi) = 3/2 is rational.
e^(pi*i)+1=0 euler's equation
e^(i*x)=cisx
use taylor to proof it
Why does e^pi*i = -1
hehe
@Parkjimin950521
no it doesn't
Nah, that'd be too negative.
too nerdy for my understanding
@randomlaughingman I tried to explain how -i = i^3, but for some reason, it won't let me post as a comment.
lol
kooooooooooooooooooool 8~Q
Don't listen to him; He's greek!
Ok, seriously now. Why the HELL did I laugh at "I love you-clidean plane geometry"?
I haven't laughed so much in ages and that joke wasn't even funny.
Also e^i*p = -1
i did it LOL
wtf
^_^ hahaha
Well, obviously it doesn't. Nothing on the internet does. It's all a scam. Especially when you spam people here. Why not try sending it to yourself first?
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO Uh... dude. Your strategy might be working on him, but everyone else here knows you're failing as a troll. So just stop now, and head back to Encyclopedia Dramatica.
@COLONELKiNGUMERCURiO i is not irrational, it's imaginary.
The only thing irrational about this conversation is you. I have no more time to waste on your insufferable ignorance.
Learn how to spell, then come and haunt me.
Heheh β* is gay, that's grand
No he is not.
lol bad calculus
Probably the worst piece of garbage I've ever seen