Sebastian Gardey base and strength are different. Aly has one of the best standup games in bb bjj so you can guarantee is balance and feeling for base is elite. Saying that, adding his strength to the mix just makes it super super good
Ashley Garvin Agreed. My experience with training has taught me that strength is directly implied with base. Although other factors are included, having strong legs and a sense of balance within your power alows for a strong base! Cheers
These kinda anti-bjj wins,are getting more and more common.IBJJF should start doing something about it,im thinking that submission only tournaments is the only place where you can see some BJJ nowdays.
@@CH-tv1cy now why the fuck would you reward that? Aly didn't put out any offence in this match until the last 30 seconds meanwhile Keenan was constantly attacking.
No jiu-jitsu "moderno" dele, queria ver numa briga de rua ele ficar de bunda pra cima segurando lapela ... É aí que o jiu-jitsu verdadeiro dos Gracie entra, o qual era em grande parte pra defesa pessoal, nas ruas uma vantagem não te garante a chegada em casa com segurança...
@@maromba1230 mas antes dele pegar o pé espertão ele já tinha levado umas nas caras e já apagado... Ou vc acha que o cara que lutar vai esperar ele pegar no pé meu camarada... Luta de rua não é como esse jiu Jitsu de merda que é Hj...
This the first time watching a bjj matcha but am I the only one that thinks there shouldn’t be any coaching/help from anyone other than the people competing? I feel like bjj is like a chess match and should test the skill of the players only to see who has more knowledge and technique.
@@danielbak651 submission only, it would cut down on the stalling. No one gets a submission then no one wins. I can't believe someone can be called a world champion without getting a submission along the way. Just doesn't seem right to me.
@@SpyderRae actually you see less subs in sub-only competitions than in IBJJF-type rulesets. The fact is that the 2 fighters are both so good technically that none of them can have an edge on the other. At this high level of jiu-jitsu, you see subs when one is significantly better than the other (or sometimes when one makes a mistake but it's rare at this level)
I think that if your guard passing is up to par with an amazing guard then What’s wrong with pulling guard? When one chooses to pull guard, you (the opponent) are automatically on top being able to use gravity to your advantage and if your passing game is on point, then hey, good! Your in a position your happy with, and pass the gward you shall... What you think??
Because bjj was self defence oriented, so the oldschool guys get pissed when there is no point to the opponent when you go in a position that is stupid in any fuck self defence scenario.
O jiu jitsu dele é muito ruim... só amarrando para ganhar ponto... vc ver logo que ele fica pegando na lapela pra puxar pra guarda e ficar ali so enrolando... ai fica ganhando vantagem do juiz e acha q luta muito... dar é raiva.
I understand that this is technically a win according to the rules. But I don’t like it. There shouldn’t be a winner unless somebody taps. The scoring system for jujitsu has turned it into something that it was never supposed to be.
I think it’s turned out this way because otherwise we’d have matches going for ages and therefore make it too difficult to run a bjj tournament in a reasonable time frame. Maybe the higher level guys should play by a submission only ruleset though with the earlier stages of tournaments being point based.
Daniel Dughman In simulation of a real conflict assuming no outside influences such as people interfering a point system simply does not suffice. Submissions represent the ability to significantly injure, kill or knockout an opponent and when a point system is in place you don’t have to show that you had that degree of control to have won in a life or death scenario. A point system also makes you fight for points rather than submissions, points are easy much easier to get and assuming you have a good enough defence you don’t even have to attempt a submission to win. Under a point system you don’t have to have good cardio and don’t necessarily have to be good at submissions to win, although it certainly helps. This doesn’t translate well into real life though where if you gas out you’re toast. If you don’t have the submission skill required to at least be able to submit someone untrained but competent you’re in trouble when you gas out and as martial artists you don’t want the results of a conflict to be entirely dependent on your conditioning.
Daniel Dughman it’s like point sparring in karate. Drives the competitors to train for points rather than practical real-world scenarios. I’m sure both of these guys can defend themselves just fine. But the point system turns it into a silly game rather than a match to see who could really beat who.
@@anonymouse7095 Yep, it dilutes the art. Most TKD guys these days have extremely weak kicks. They don't learn power, they learn speed and placement. That's what wins points. It's fine for sport, but it's not going to save them against an attacker amped up adrenaline or narcotics. Edit: As opposed to someone like Joe Rogan who learned old school TKD. That dudes kicks are absolutely lethal.
Everyone talking shit doesn't even train, or understand the point of sport jiu jitsu. Its a tournament with points and advantages, not a street fight. They are playing a game in a sense and are playing the rules in their favor. All that matters is you win, doesnt matter if its by a point, an advantage or a sub. Win is a win. If either of these guys were in a street fight, they would use completely different techniques all based of the scenerio.
Bret Hernandez Excellent point! I think we still have a lot of people out there who are discreetly envious of those they are intimidated by. Both of these guys looked good, and they appear to be decent sportsman. Let the whiners continue to cry, and let’s just move on.
Shichi Dan Appear to be decent? They are both multi time world champions. Thats the point, 90% of you dont even know who these guys are or even train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Just on here spitting non sense based off their google searches or trying to compare this shit to a mma fight. Go to a BJJ gym and see how far you make it in a “light” roll against one of these guys. They will blow your mind when you realize you have zero chance of survival against most all of these guys.
I think most of us understand that, we just don't like it. That's our prerogative. Just as it's yours to be entertained by it. There's room for both opinions.
Lenon Kitchens well your prerogative is coming from a lack of education on the subject. Go train and get some perspective then come back and give a relevant opinion.
@@timmyotoole6063 The reason some people like that concept, is because bjj has artificial limits that guess pulling unrealistically effective. Normally, guard pulling would be punished by slams and ground and pound. If you aren't allowed to use the real life counter to a technique, then it will just run amuck in competition. You say it's not judo, but it should still be able to work in the same environment if it is effective, should it not?
@@gesshugh9976 I see what you're saying for sure. Keenan wouldn't pull guard were he to meet Muhammed Aly in an alley. There's a reason no one not named Ryan hall pulls guard in mma. A bjj competition is not attempting to simulate a real life encounter, though. It's purely sport, so why punish for a perfectly legtimate, strategic move. Nonsensical
@@timmyotoole6063 I honestly wasn't aware that it was purely sport. I thought it was still martial art practice. That's why Judo has that rule. If it is unrelated to martial arts at all, then there is no problem.
Thats because thats all they do. Completely impractical and useless for anything resembling a fight. What they do is a pure sport and is no longer a martial art.
@@dragonballjiujitsu i am not sure, i respect creativity and there are so many branches of bjj developing, one might bring something both new and efficient in a fight....in any cases it is unnerving to know that the guy in front of you is less of a fighter yet has one special angle and position he mastered and u stepped in it without even realizing
@@d3robert Typical of any sport, I find it hilararious when people lose their cool over a style they're not used to. Hate the game not the player like they say. Keep upseting them old folks!
I like the lapel game and play it but it is boring to watch. Should the rules do something about it, I don't think. Much prefer to watch no gi now days
Is lapel guard really that popular? I thought it was mostly a keenan thing. I thing Felipe Pena pulled it against him in a surprise attack but Pena is also very creative and adaptive. Not a fan of lapel guard personally but I like Keenan coming up with it because he really is very creative and hilarious, almost troll-like in his weird guards
@@diogopinheiro4097 não disse que ele está errado em fazer o jogo dele! observa direitinho que a enfase que coloquei foi na questão de perder a vontade de ver o tipo de lutador amarrão. Em momento algum eu disse que ela está errado no que está fazendo..E se fosse pra jogar soltinho comigo vai do cara, se ele quer tomar amasso ou nao!
This my friend is called Judo haha + BJJ is ground game if you force people to play take downs then something will be missing and people will start playing judo and wrestling to avoid losing points so in this case they will only play guard as a result of losing the stand up game ! In training people will start focus on wrestling and judo rather than guard btw I am a guard puller so yeh maybe i am getting emotional on the subject haha
@@dilmarvega2575 i understand and for the rules of bjj its ok but it goes against reality and all these grappling arts still derive from a form of self defence
@@dilmarvega2575 yes but how you get there can prove painful or even lethal on concrete truth is throws and takedowns can end fights on concrete and sittingvdown in front of someone is just stupid wen tjey can boot you in the head
@@jonmoris9354 You are right so in real fight you must be good and ready for all phases from standing to ground i mean all situations I believe as a bjj player ill try to attack the legs and pull guard from there ! but i will never sit lol
Isn't there a penalty for pulling guard without grips? Also, when an advantage showed up for Keenan, I didn't see anything that would warrant it? Regardless, I think keenan sought the fight much more than Mahamed did.
He had a grip both times. I'm guessing you mean after the restart. If you go to about 3:54 you see he goes for a grip doesn't get it and immediately stands back up. Then he grabs the belt which counts as a grip. That's my understanding of the rule but I'm no expert.
@@wylian84 I think it's only stalling if you stay on the floor after attempting to pull guard. It would be a bit harsh to punish a player just for failing.
@@uralwong799 oh alright, I didn't know the called a stalling move from it. I thought if you straight up pulled guard without grips that was a penalty. Been away from jiu jitsu about 5 years now, forgot some things and some things have changed.
Keenan had one advantage (don't you see the little "1" on the right ?) so the scores were 0-1-0 to 0-0-0 The first big number is the main score (when you pass the guard, execute a takedown successfully, sweep, take the back or the mount, knee on belly, etc.) The little number at the top right of the big number is the advantages (you score advantages when for example you try to pass the guard but don't manage to stay 3 seconds in the position, or when you go for a submission but the opponent manages to get out of it, etc.) The little number at the bottom right is the penalties (you can get penalties generally for lack of combativeness, or for some fouls) If the main score numbers are equal, you check the advantages If the main score numbers and advantages numbers are equal, you check the penalties If everything is equal, it's up to the referee(s) decision Here, Keenan managed to gain an advantage (honestly I don't see why, you can just see that the referee gave it at 3:40, but it has been cut from the video)
Jj competitivo e isso, Keenan o faz muito bem. Mahamed podia ter tentado sair pro pé alguns momentos ali e que o americano estava agoniado em defender a passagem, assim talvez empataria as vantagens
Guardinha maldida essa do kenan mais o Aly devia ter acelerado nos 3 min ai dava boa. se manteve mto calmo Aly mas acredito q ja estava cansado tbm né monstrao. De qlq maneira lutassa
that's what rickson is talking about, not only it's fucking boring and favorise stalling and it's not realistic cause you can just punch him in the face in these positions. And with boring match like this the sport is not gonna grow cause there is no entertainement
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Thats beautiful, american coaching mahamed, and brazilian coaching keenan u guys gonna make me cry
r u brazilian?
@Lucas lopes racist bro
K Cornelius vs the greatest boxer of all time, who'd have thunk it
You shall not pass!!!
3:44 Love the sportsmanship from both
Keenan inversion flexibility is amazing, and his warm guard is second to none.
His cold guard's not too shabby either.
Man how good is Aly's base? There were so many times I thought Keenan was going to get the sweep.
notmyrealname23 thought the same thing
Same. He has a great sense of knowing when to shift pressure.
notmyrealname23 dude is fucking strong
Sebastian Gardey base and strength are different. Aly has one of the best standup games in bb bjj so you can guarantee is balance and feeling for base is elite. Saying that, adding his strength to the mix just makes it super super good
Ashley Garvin Agreed. My experience with training has taught me that strength is directly implied with base. Although other factors are included, having strong legs and a sense of balance within your power alows for a strong base! Cheers
watching world class jiujitsu is like sippin on fine scotch.
Why can't I like this comment 100 times?
Eventually you pass out.
@@mubarkqardas46 I see what you did there 😉
Yes, that's why i only watch roger gracie😉
I love the way Andre says "keenan"
O jiujtsu desse cara é isso ai!!!
Amarração total! Não é a toa que o Rafael Mendes sem competir um bom tempo finalizou em menos de um minuto.
Jiu-jitsu feio danado! Eu sinto vergonha em ver uma luta dessas, claramente o cara só luta pra amarrar e ganhar vantagens, não luta pra finalizar.
guarda de lapela é sempre a mesma coisa quem nao faz odeia quem faz ama
Saulo in the background, demonstrating his mastery of the unimpressed, skeptical glare.
This is why sub-only is the future of grappling.
Keenan is so smooth on this lapel transitions
Hence the encyclopedia
These kinda anti-bjj wins,are getting more and more common.IBJJF should start doing something about it,im thinking that submission only tournaments is the only place where you can see some BJJ nowdays.
Sub only is all I do
They need to implement a timer where you gain points for holding top positions or something.
@@CH-tv1cy now why the fuck would you reward that? Aly didn't put out any offence in this match until the last 30 seconds meanwhile Keenan was constantly attacking.
LAGOA AZUL É MAIS EMOCIONANTE QUE ESSE JIUJITSU MODERNO DO CORNELIUS. MEU DEUS, COCHILEI....
No jiu-jitsu "moderno" dele, queria ver numa briga de rua ele ficar de bunda pra cima segurando lapela ... É aí que o jiu-jitsu verdadeiro dos Gracie entra, o qual era em grande parte pra defesa pessoal, nas ruas uma vantagem não te garante a chegada em casa com segurança...
Se o mestre Hélio e Rickson seriam faixas roxas duros Hj
Oque seria esse camarada na época dos dois? Um faixa branca meia boca e olhe lá!
@@thiagohenriquebenvenutti3110 o espertão ,ele compete sem kimono e qualquer pessoa sem um puta noção de luta teria o pé levado pra casa por ele !!!!
Com toda certeza , keenan corno desgraçado , mano tenho uma raiva desse cara
@@maromba1230 mas antes dele pegar o pé espertão ele já tinha levado umas nas caras e já apagado...
Ou vc acha que o cara que lutar vai esperar ele pegar no pé meu camarada...
Luta de rua não é como esse jiu Jitsu de merda que é Hj...
This the first time watching a bjj matcha but am I the only one that thinks there shouldn’t be any coaching/help from anyone other than the people competing? I feel like bjj is like a chess match and should test the skill of the players only to see who has more knowledge and technique.
@@lochu7455 i think you miss eric chan
points...i kind of agree with him...
3:44 Am I a joke to you?
Lmao
hahahahahaha
The fact that Keenan can even be competitive against such a monster shows his jui jitsui is far superior
Keenan "berimobolo is dead" Corneliao
Winning by advantage shouldn't be a thing.
yeaa judo fixed that problem.
What is the alternative?
@@danielbak651 submission only, it would cut down on the stalling. No one gets a submission then no one wins. I can't believe someone can be called a world champion without getting a submission along the way. Just doesn't seem right to me.
@@SpyderRae actually you see less subs in sub-only competitions than in IBJJF-type rulesets. The fact is that the 2 fighters are both so good technically that none of them can have an edge on the other. At this high level of jiu-jitsu, you see subs when one is significantly better than the other (or sometimes when one makes a mistake but it's rare at this level)
Guarda técnica flexível e afiada acha pano onde não tem .monstro da guarda oss
top mesmo,os passadores só choram nos comentários kk
@@maromba1230 kkkkk
Anytime technique beats strength, that’s Jiu-Jitsu!
I think that if your guard passing is up to par with an amazing guard then What’s wrong with pulling guard? When one chooses to pull guard, you (the opponent) are automatically on top being able to use gravity to your advantage and if your passing game is on point, then hey, good! Your in a position your happy with, and pass the gward you shall... What you think??
Because bjj was self defence oriented, so the oldschool guys get pissed when there is no point to the opponent when you go in a position that is stupid in any fuck self defence scenario.
That lapel guard though!!
Great match and strategy.👍
oss..
Cornelius é fera mesmo ,esse jogo de lapela combinado com berimbolo é demais, fica difícil sair.
Mahamed também é duro.
Keenan Amarrelius, vitórias emocionantes por uma vantagem, isso é o tal "jiu jitsu moderno".
Eu concordo com vc, mas pô, o Aly poderia ter feito mais coisa ali! Aceitou muito o jogo do Keenan!
Lapel guard stalling the fight all the way through the end.
There should be no verbal help allowed from non competitors.
Why? Coaching is important all fighters have coaches
Jogo muito chato do Keenan, mas achei que o Aly poderia ter dado mais...
Chato pacas mesmo da nem terminei de ver a luta.
O jiu jitsu dele é muito ruim... só amarrando para ganhar ponto... vc ver logo que ele fica pegando na lapela pra puxar pra guarda e ficar ali so enrolando... ai fica ganhando vantagem do juiz e acha q luta muito... dar é raiva.
Ele só faz força!
Some of these videos start too late, and end too soon.
Cornelius é Muito Féra
Really well played by both guys.
I understand that this is technically a win according to the rules. But I don’t like it. There shouldn’t be a winner unless somebody taps. The scoring system for jujitsu has turned it into something that it was never supposed to be.
I think it’s turned out this way because otherwise we’d have matches going for ages and therefore make it too difficult to run a bjj tournament in a reasonable time frame. Maybe the higher level guys should play by a submission only ruleset though with the earlier stages of tournaments being point based.
Whats wrong exactly with the scoring system? i think makes perfect sense
Daniel Dughman In simulation of a real conflict assuming no outside influences such as people interfering a point system simply does not suffice. Submissions represent the ability to significantly injure, kill or knockout an opponent and when a point system is in place you don’t have to show that you had that degree of control to have won in a life or death scenario.
A point system also makes you fight for points rather than submissions, points are easy much easier to get and assuming you have a good enough defence you don’t even have to attempt a submission to win.
Under a point system you don’t have to have good cardio and don’t necessarily have to be good at submissions to win, although it certainly helps. This doesn’t translate well into real life though where if you gas out you’re toast. If you don’t have the submission skill required to at least be able to submit someone untrained but competent you’re in trouble when you gas out and as martial artists you don’t want the results of a conflict to be entirely dependent on your conditioning.
Daniel Dughman it’s like point sparring in karate. Drives the competitors to train for points rather than practical real-world scenarios.
I’m sure both of these guys can defend themselves just fine. But the point system turns it into a silly game rather than a match to see who could really beat who.
@@anonymouse7095 Yep, it dilutes the art. Most TKD guys these days have extremely weak kicks. They don't learn power, they learn speed and placement. That's what wins points. It's fine for sport, but it's not going to save them against an attacker amped up adrenaline or narcotics.
Edit: As opposed to someone like Joe Rogan who learned old school TKD. That dudes kicks are absolutely lethal.
Everyone talking shit doesn't even train, or understand the point of sport jiu jitsu. Its a tournament with points and advantages, not a street fight. They are playing a game in a sense and are playing the rules in their favor. All that matters is you win, doesnt matter if its by a point, an advantage or a sub. Win is a win. If either of these guys were in a street fight, they would use completely different techniques all based of the scenerio.
Bret Hernandez Excellent point! I think we still have a lot of people out there who are discreetly envious of those they are intimidated by. Both of these guys looked good, and they appear to be decent sportsman. Let the whiners continue to cry, and let’s just move on.
Shichi Dan Appear to be decent? They are both multi time world champions. Thats the point, 90% of you dont even know who these guys are or even train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Just on here spitting non sense based off their google searches or trying to compare this shit to a mma fight. Go to a BJJ gym and see how far you make it in a “light” roll against one of these guys. They will blow your mind when you realize you have zero chance of survival against most all of these guys.
I think most of us understand that, we just don't like it. That's our prerogative. Just as it's yours to be entertained by it. There's room for both opinions.
Lenon Kitchens well your prerogative is coming from a lack of education on the subject. Go train and get some perspective then come back and give a relevant opinion.
@@brethernandez3337 Lol, ok idiot.
Miss hearing Galvao in Keenan's corner :(
blandz he’s not there anymore?
@@DaKaveCollects keenan left atos
sheit, got close at the end there
Saudades do velho jiu jitsu
I think that was the most techinical match ive ever seen
Amarrao esse Kerlius, vitoria do Aly fácil na próxima.
Quem é kerlius?
@@DEIDECOSTA....kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
How to fix this guard pulling bs in bjj. Give an advantage to the opponent when you pull guard.
Dumb
It's not judo
@@timmyotoole6063 The reason some people like that concept, is because bjj has artificial limits that guess pulling unrealistically effective. Normally, guard pulling would be punished by slams and ground and pound. If you aren't allowed to use the real life counter to a technique, then it will just run amuck in competition. You say it's not judo, but it should still be able to work in the same environment if it is effective, should it not?
@@gesshugh9976 I see what you're saying for sure. Keenan wouldn't pull guard were he to meet Muhammed Aly in an alley. There's a reason no one not named Ryan hall pulls guard in mma. A bjj competition is not attempting to simulate a real life encounter, though. It's purely sport, so why punish for a perfectly legtimate, strategic move. Nonsensical
@@timmyotoole6063 I honestly wasn't aware that it was purely sport. I thought it was still martial art practice. That's why Judo has that rule. If it is unrelated to martial arts at all, then there is no problem.
it s so difficult to fight people with those weird not street practical bjj styles. i am not hating on them, it s just frustrating
Thats because thats all they do. Completely impractical and useless for anything resembling a fight. What they do is a pure sport and is no longer a martial art.
@@dragonballjiujitsu i am not sure, i respect creativity and there are so many branches of bjj developing, one might bring something both new and efficient in a fight....in any cases it is unnerving to know that the guy in front of you is less of a fighter yet has one special angle and position he mastered and u stepped in it without even realizing
@@d3robert Typical of any sport, I find it hilararious when people lose their cool over a style they're not used to. Hate the game not the player like they say. Keep upseting them old folks!
They don't have jackets where you're from?
Yeah.. that’s why I got my 11 year old out of sport Bjj and into mma and wrestling instead.. now I know he can defend himself
Wish Mahammed had fought with the intensity he had at the end a bit earlier.
Jogo chato da porra.
Você vai chorar?
@@Namesi hurr durr
Yeah for the Worm Master!
I like the lapel game and play it but it is boring to watch. Should the rules do something about it, I don't think. Much prefer to watch no gi now days
10min of nottin but tag of war..
Hahahaha war of nottin
Do caralho essa guarda! 👊🏼
Keenan is one of the best doing it right now, but this lapel jiu jitsu is so painful to watch. Boring, very boring.
No way
Is lapel guard really that popular? I thought it was mostly a keenan thing. I thing Felipe Pena pulled it against him in a surprise attack but Pena is also very creative and adaptive. Not a fan of lapel guard personally but I like Keenan coming up with it because he really is very creative and hilarious, almost troll-like in his weird guards
Totally disagree, I find it very entertaining to watch a world class BJJ practitioner completely unable to pass anothers guard.
Only score was 1 advantage?
is keenan the best grappler ever? whats your guys opinion
One of the best
Can we get Keenan is a combat jj match? I'd like to see him get slapped a few times. Would pay.
Aly ADV
Cornelius
Is that Shane coaching Aly?
No sudden death?! Advantage sucks
Sudden death?? 😂😂 its not mortal kombat
Quem acha a Kennan é fraco vai lá e conquista a chance de participar do mundial faixa rosa do carai
IBJJF sure put on exciting and fair events.
How thats a victory is beyond me.
Can someone explain to me how he won when all he did was pull guard? He didn’t even get a single sweep. How does he win the match by advantage?
Forced to turtle at 03:20
So many Brazilians in here talking about "boring" - if Aly could have passed his guard he would have. But he couldn't. Go cry somewhere else.
Can anyone pls explain where did the advantage come from?
The back take , that came off sweep
gosto do Keenan, mas com o tempo ele ta ficando cada vez mais amarrão! perde-se vontade de ver esse tipo de lutador
Luta de profissionais são outro nível e uma vantagem é muito importante e ele não tá lutando com vc pra jogar soltinho e Muhammad cara
@@diogopinheiro4097 não disse que ele está errado em fazer o jogo dele! observa direitinho que a enfase que coloquei foi na questão de perder a vontade de ver o tipo de lutador amarrão. Em momento algum eu disse que ela está errado no que está fazendo..E se fosse pra jogar soltinho comigo vai do cara, se ele quer tomar amasso ou nao!
Velho, essa worm guard é um pé no saco! Treinava com um cara que aprendeu essa guarda na gringa, o maluco me dava muita dor de cabeça
They got overly excited thinking he was gonna pass and win at the last second. They got teased multiple times but... nope
4:00 in, spot that technique
For bjj to evolve they need to penalize guard pulling or sitting it should be considered a takedown and 2 points
This my friend is called Judo haha + BJJ is ground game if you force people to play take downs then something will be missing and people will start playing judo and wrestling to avoid losing points so in this case they will only play guard as a result of losing the stand up game ! In training people will start focus on wrestling and judo rather than guard
btw I am a guard puller so yeh maybe i am getting emotional on the subject haha
@@dilmarvega2575 i understand and for the rules of bjj its ok but it goes against reality and all these grappling arts still derive from a form of self defence
@@jonmoris9354 In reality eventually someone will end up on the ground right?
@@dilmarvega2575 yes but how you get there can prove painful or even lethal on concrete truth is throws and takedowns can end fights on concrete and sittingvdown in front of someone is just stupid wen tjey can boot you in the head
@@jonmoris9354 You are right so in real fight you must be good and ready for all phases from standing to ground i mean all situations I believe as a bjj player ill try to attack the legs and pull guard from there ! but i will never sit lol
How can y’all watch the entire thing? Nothing happened here.. no points.. yet a winner
Could help but keep looking a saulo staring intensely at this match lol
Keenan muito amarrão...
Isn't there a penalty for pulling guard without grips?
Also, when an advantage showed up for Keenan, I didn't see anything that would warrant it?
Regardless, I think keenan sought the fight much more than Mahamed did.
He had a grip both times. I'm guessing you mean after the restart. If you go to about 3:54 you see he goes for a grip doesn't get it and immediately stands back up. Then he grabs the belt which counts as a grip. That's my understanding of the rule but I'm no expert.
@@uralwong799 yes right there, I thought if that happens that's a penalty.
@@wylian84 I think it's only stalling if you stay on the floor after attempting to pull guard. It would be a bit harsh to punish a player just for failing.
@@uralwong799 oh alright, I didn't know the called a stalling move from it. I thought if you straight up pulled guard without grips that was a penalty.
Been away from jiu jitsu about 5 years now, forgot some things and some things have changed.
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The game of inches is amazing but man it’s boring to watch!
Much more fun to do than to watch!
harrod19 “fun” = exhausting
his guard is mindblowing
Wrestling makes more sense.
so smooth....
Guarda enjoada essa do Keenan
How did he win when both scores were zero?
Keenan had one advantage (don't you see the little "1" on the right ?) so the scores were 0-1-0 to 0-0-0
The first big number is the main score (when you pass the guard, execute a takedown successfully, sweep, take the back or the mount, knee on belly, etc.)
The little number at the top right of the big number is the advantages (you score advantages when for example you try to pass the guard but don't manage to stay 3 seconds in the position, or when you go for a submission but the opponent manages to get out of it, etc.)
The little number at the bottom right is the penalties (you can get penalties generally for lack of combativeness, or for some fouls)
If the main score numbers are equal, you check the advantages
If the main score numbers and advantages numbers are equal, you check the penalties
If everything is equal, it's up to the referee(s) decision
Here, Keenan managed to gain an advantage (honestly I don't see why, you can just see that the referee gave it at 3:40, but it has been cut from the video)
he y buddy, try to do that with buchecha and vieira! hugs!
Jj competitivo e isso, Keenan o faz muito bem. Mahamed podia ter tentado sair pro pé alguns momentos ali e que o americano estava agoniado em defender a passagem, assim talvez empataria as vantagens
8:45
Guardinha maldida essa do kenan mais o Aly devia ter acelerado nos 3 min ai dava boa. se manteve mto calmo Aly mas acredito q ja estava cansado tbm né monstrao. De qlq maneira lutassa
Ele estava bem cansado
Shoutout to the great Saulo Ribeiro and Shawn Williams watching in the background!!!
O resumo do jiu-jitsu do Cornelius e tirar a roupa dos adversários
Rematch
Could someone explain why Keenan was better...don't get it..
He won on an advantage that was awarded I guess for almost taking the back
gosh there isnt even a pretense to attempt takedowns. Sit down and look for sweeps while the other looks to pass...
Aonde foi a vantagem pro Keenan?
Quase raspou
esse kenan só amarra
Snooze fest
😩
Keenan é um jiu jitsu muito evoluído pra frente muito versátil... Aly também alto nível
Só força o Ally
Quem esse cara pensa que é, para falar de Mestre Helio Gracie e, do Rickson?
Well done Keenan.... bad ass guardeiro
Submission Only!
When you can’t feel 3-4 moves ahead ? Your a brownie
It's very complicated it. It's the rules and the guy can hold all fight the lapel and this is it!
It's not jiu-jitsu.
that's what rickson is talking about, not only it's fucking boring and favorise stalling and it's not realistic cause you can just punch him in the face in these positions. And with boring match like this the sport is not gonna grow cause there is no entertainement
Amarrãooo
Luta feia, retrancada e decidida por uma vantagem? e esse Cornelius falando mal de Hélio e Rickson Grace?, é realmente muita arrogância.