keenan was my favorite, really different style of teaching and showing concepts in his hey day. Passing a miyao guard too! Juice now, win trials, juice a lot by 2026 and get gordie
One thing I miss is Keenan's podcast. I don't miss Josh on the podcast but I think Keenan had a lot to say. He probably still does and he could do a solo podcast. I imagined if he had the time or desire.
Keenan is one of the best jiu jitsu guys ever, new guys don’t even know him but just look at his record and who he has beaten. Braulio, Murilo, Leandro Lo, Kaynan Duarte, Craig Jones lol and many more, even gave guys like Buchecha and Rodolfo tough matches
Love that Keenan is talking about how shit giving seminars is, meanwhile Craig is there to literally do a seminar at Legion for Keenan. Love the honesty!
Even attending seminars after a while gets boring, I’ve been to seminars taught by some of the best guys and never learnt anything too crazy or that which blew my mind. Most bjj is out there and easily accessible to everyone. I much rather would pay a high level guy and roll with him and his students for an hour then do the traditional 3 techniques and pictures then go home
Keenan and Craig have a perfect chemistry, able to riff off each other and go toe to toe with jokes and questions. It's also such a treat to see Keenan in his element again! Please do consider making this a regular thing! Podcast
I like how Graig has just confirmed that John Danaher pretty much simply teaches MARCELO GARCIA’S GAME. I totally agree with him. Marcelo back in the day was so far ahead of everyone and John was very smart to notice and catch onto Marcelo’s game. Well noticed and recognized!
One of the best podcasts so far! I love Keenan and you two are great together! Please do another with him soon. Also, we would love longer podcasts if you're willing or able. ❤🙏
Bem, não sei se algum Brasileiro além de mim teve paciência de ouvir esse podcast mas cara, adorei de verdade. Keenan é um dos maiores competidores e mais ágeis que vi lutar. Via muito as lutas dele no antigo canal Budo Videos (antes da Flograppling se meter e monopolizar as transmissões) e era sensacional. Parabéns pela conversa. De qualidade. Oss
was nice for you to have a guest you actually bounce off your humour only makes keenan giggle 1/15 times but i admire your perseverance Craig keenan kept bringing it back to topic after you bombed a joke too which was great
It’s a crime that Gordon has been on Rogan and Craig hasn’t. Gordon’s Jiu Jitsu is arguably 20-30% better than Craig’s but Craig’s personality is 87,000 times more entertaining than Gordon’s. It’s a no brainer.
I'll never forget that keenan added me on league of legends. that was one of the highlights of my own reddit career. i did not even know keenan got 'cancelled' we're still out here gangsta
I’m an old school BJJ Redditor and I standby the fact that it was a much better place when Fritzdagger was in favor. It used to just be about BJJ and techniques, with an occasional shit post. Way too much fluff and politics nowadays.
I remember he was at Penn’s training center in Hilo around 2009-2011Thought he was just a huge nerd but he used to ragdoll all these established Hawaii competitors. PJ Barch as well
My old coach took me to one of the mma millionare events in orlando. It was very much like keenan described. We sat in this convention hall in a big hotel and he would have testimonial after testimonial with people in his network, avallon brothers, Nak from beta ect. tell about how much money they were making with this method. At the end of the pitches he would have ring girls come around and pass out sheets to fill out you cc info to buy the products. Also used the normally sells for 1200$ if you buy it right now you can get it for 997$. Cant tell you how many dvd's my instructor bought but it was alot. Everything from kids programs, afterschool programs, how to be a gym manager, how to structure contracts.
You two are hilarious and I’m just sitting here wondering why I’m watching two phenomenal jujitsu people talk lol, you’re wonderful people and inspirations to a lot of people! Great show! So can we do this again but like half as long of a conversation, and then segue into some grappling with you guys showing some of your skills on the mat. PS colloidal silver can beat conjunctivitis in one or two applications, usually spraying or putting drops in your right in your eye, and it’s only water with charged silver nano particles in it🤙🏽oss
Keenan is great. I was bummed when he went dark. I hope he ignores all the 'tough'/dumbass keyboard warrior dip shits! @flograppling shut off Keenan? Well...that is lame!
Huh. Didn't know Keenan lost himself to conspiracy theory mind rot. It's a shame, he seemed like one of the smart ones. He's just a Joe Rogan sheep after all.
Keenan is great, but he omitted an important fact, people started hating him when he was calling people out for training during covid, yet he trained every day. Shitty move, and well deserved hate.
Definitely need to get these two together weekly in a better studio setting. Great dialogue. Right amount of humor mixed with substantive observations. I'd totally watch these two regularly.
love keenan dude !!! been studying him since i was a whitebelt 9 years ago. i really love his content and his mindset and the way he explains things. i really hope he stays in BJJ. KEENAN > Gordon
This was a good one. Shout out to Keenan for getting me in to BJJ. Now I train with morons 5 times a week and listen to Craig Jones when I'm at home. Maybe I shouldn't have started this at all... Thanks a lot Keenan.
I actually felt excited when Keenan was talking about the ELO ranking for grapplers and just let the street cred work loosely into the fighters putting their own money up for their matches. I think too that there should be two separate rankings for grapplers - one for skill and proficiency and consistency and one for straight entertainer and showman.
I guess the problem is ELO applying to different rule sets such as spamming IBJJF No GI comps vs spamming ADCC opens, Both are No GI but they are pretty different in both rules and who competes
@@Lockdown335 You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling. The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission. I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.
@@Lockdown335 You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling. The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission. I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.
the best podcast so far! great stories, flow and chemistry. BTW Keenan is so articulate, smart and good conversationist that you guys should upgrade to a joint podcast from now on!!
The current head of the ATF was there and posed for action hero type pictures in front of the scorched corpses of american children like he was a badass lmao.
Training with all these killers at TLI was the highlight of my early jiu jitsu despite the drama and swat teams. After being murdered continuously round after round, we would get demoted to lesser training circles. "You, go over there and fight Sarge" (Sijara, who was mincing up all the comp white belts).
Ethan has got some good info though - he’s like a walking Wikipedia, they all suck at history but present facts are pretty good - plus is the dynamics that make the simple man podcast good Keenan is a very perceptive person - he asks the hard questions!
Kennan's Elo Rating Idea for BJJ sound genuinely fucking amazing. It would let guys like Gordon who are viewed as ahead of the heap to still have competition with past legends like Roger Gracie trying to beat their Elo. like Magnus Carlsen, he became the greatest chest player in the modern era but had a long time of chasing down Kasparov's Elo and then trying to break the record and breach a 2900 Elo. This is something all the promoters need to come together for now!
KEENAN for the love of god. Get juiced out of your face and take down Gordon. Your final gift to the grappling community. You are the chosen one!
Yeh we need keenan on the juice. This would be the ultimate experiment.
Gordon is just better dude. Period.
Yeah, there’s nothing helping him lol. The skill gap is too exponential.
keenan was my favorite, really different style of teaching and showing concepts in his hey day. Passing a miyao guard too! Juice now, win trials, juice a lot by 2026 and get gordie
@@130BJJ he’s not good enough. I don’t think you quite understand the disparity.
Keenan was a great guest. By far the most interesting episode of the podcast IMO.
Great take - been some great guests but Keenan killed it
Fact
It’s almost like he had a really great podcast that he abruptly abandoned
Agree super smart guy
@@fatguyonthc lol
This needs to be a regular podcast.
Great chemistry
na, every few months would be fine
Keenan and Craig needs to make this a regular thing. Their personalities are extremely complimentary.
Can’t wait for the only fans collab
@@lobsterairsoft499 keenan is hot
They complement each other so well, this should really be a recurring thing.
Yeah they don’t talk over each other but contribute to the conversation so well.
ya I agree, the first mat burn minus Hinger was wicked
Nah they would run out of shit to talk real fast
This is my opinion now too (15:12)
craig and chlamydia?
This was legitimately one of the best all-around podcasts I've listened to in a long time. I wish this was a semi regular thing..
By far best duo in a Jiujitsu podcast ever. You guys need a regular collab together.
Keep jiu jitsu gay
Great conversation. Keenan is a legend for sure
One thing I miss is Keenan's podcast. I don't miss Josh on the podcast but I think Keenan had a lot to say. He probably still does and he could do a solo podcast. I imagined if he had the time or desire.
Josh was absolutely awful so lame and feminine
i think hes doing quite well with his school, jiu jitsu prices in san diego are crazy high now
Hinger was so irritating on the podcast.
@@ajsdaddy31Hinger is a tremendous competitor but boy is he a douche bag.
Keenan is one of the best jiu jitsu guys ever, new guys don’t even know him but just look at his record and who he has beaten. Braulio, Murilo, Leandro Lo, Kaynan Duarte, Craig Jones lol and many more, even gave guys like Buchecha and Rodolfo tough matches
Love that Keenan is talking about how shit giving seminars is, meanwhile Craig is there to literally do a seminar at Legion for Keenan. Love the honesty!
Even attending seminars after a while gets boring, I’ve been to seminars taught by some of the best guys and never learnt anything too crazy or that which blew my mind. Most bjj is out there and easily accessible to everyone.
I much rather would pay a high level guy and roll with him and his students for an hour then do the traditional 3 techniques and pictures then go home
This is the most informative podcast I’ve heard on bjj for a while
Keenan and Craig have a perfect chemistry, able to riff off each other and go toe to toe with jokes and questions. It's also such a treat to see Keenan in his element again! Please do consider making this a regular thing!
Podcast
I like how Graig has just confirmed that John Danaher pretty much simply teaches MARCELO GARCIA’S GAME. I totally agree with him. Marcelo back in the day was so far ahead of everyone and John was very smart to notice and catch onto Marcelo’s game. Well noticed and recognized!
One of the best podcasts so far! I love Keenan and you two are great together! Please do another with him soon. Also, we would love longer podcasts if you're willing or able. ❤🙏
Full Circle! I remember first hearing Craig Jones on the matburn podcast, years ago. He's been my second favourite grappler ever since! 🥈
So many standout moments from Keenan. Hyped for this one!
Craig is absolutely the man and Keenan is one of the coolest ever do it
157k views and only 3.5k likes. What’s up JJ community? Do better
Josh Hinger is fuming and seeing red after this episode
Bem, não sei se algum Brasileiro além de mim teve paciência de ouvir esse podcast mas cara, adorei de verdade. Keenan é um dos maiores competidores e mais ágeis que vi lutar. Via muito as lutas dele no antigo canal Budo Videos (antes da Flograppling se meter e monopolizar as transmissões) e era sensacional. Parabéns pela conversa. De qualidade. Oss
Could listen to these 2 do a podcast every day.
Need Matburn 2.0 with Miha.
Their assessment of Nicky Rod killed me. 😂
The "shaved bear" and "unbridled fury" bits got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Crazy how you had to explain who Keenan is...
All jokes aside, don't start TRT until you're 40, and done with having kids.
Saint Keenis, it twas a pleasure to hear your voice again. The brotherhood of the worm has waited many moons.
I always feel smarter after listening to Keenan. Great guest. Wish you guys did a regular podcast together.
Craig...beating Tye as a child, will always hold that victory :D
was nice for you to have a guest you actually bounce off
your humour only makes keenan giggle 1/15 times but i admire your perseverance Craig
keenan kept bringing it back to topic after you bombed a joke too which was great
It’s a crime that Gordon has been on Rogan and Craig hasn’t. Gordon’s Jiu Jitsu is arguably 20-30% better than Craig’s but Craig’s personality is 87,000 times more entertaining than Gordon’s. It’s a no brainer.
JRE MMA show #110 he went on with Volks
Keenan is probably the most level headed BJJ conspiracy theorist.
Which is refreshing I guess.
I'll never forget that keenan added me on league of legends. that was one of the highlights of my own reddit career. i did not even know keenan got 'cancelled' we're still out here gangsta
Glad you didn't take the shot Keenan, stay strong. Love watching your old bjj videos : )
I’m an old school BJJ Redditor and I standby the fact that it was a much better place when Fritzdagger was in favor. It used to just be about BJJ and techniques, with an occasional shit post. Way too much fluff and politics nowadays.
The elo rating system would be great for jiujitsu.
God damnit I've missed Keenis
*Honarable mention* Kennan faced Gordon Ryan at his original weight. And was arguably the start of Gordon's Reign.
And I take offense to the fact that a blue belt would not know who Keenan is the man is an absolute American legend
So Keenan says the deep dark secrets of the dds are worse than TLI and TLI was REALLLLLY BAD. Wow
Ho wow I want elo rating in bjj. Keenan is a true Reddit nerd.
2500
I remember he was at Penn’s training center in Hilo around 2009-2011Thought he was just a huge nerd but he used to ragdoll all these established Hawaii competitors. PJ Barch as well
Keenan is one of the best in and out of the mats. Big fan of fritzdagger, he'll never be truly canceled
That was a fun episode. Great to hear from Keenan. Please have him on again!
Dude invented worm guard and American Bjj
Best guest so far, I wish we could see this combo more. Imagine Craig/Keenan on commentary for ADCC or flomatches. would be insane
My old coach took me to one of the mma millionare events in orlando. It was very much like keenan described. We sat in this convention hall in a big hotel and he would have testimonial after testimonial with people in his network, avallon brothers, Nak from beta ect. tell about how much money they were making with this method. At the end of the pitches he would have ring girls come around and pass out sheets to fill out you cc info to buy the products. Also used the normally sells for 1200$ if you buy it right now you can get it for 997$. Cant tell you how many dvd's my instructor bought but it was alot. Everything from kids programs, afterschool programs, how to be a gym manager, how to structure contracts.
Mexican ground karate is Judo.
You two are hilarious and I’m just sitting here wondering why I’m watching two phenomenal jujitsu people talk lol, you’re wonderful people and inspirations to a lot of people! Great show! So can we do this again but like half as long of a conversation, and then segue into some grappling with you guys showing some of your skills on the mat.
PS colloidal silver can beat conjunctivitis in one or two applications, usually spraying or putting drops in your right in your eye, and it’s only water with charged silver nano particles in it🤙🏽oss
The ELO idea for BJJ rankings would be amazing
I was under Master Lloyd Irvin. But I refused cult life.
He said "They all quit, you know who you are", 😬 🖐
Keenan is great. I was bummed when he went dark. I hope he ignores all the 'tough'/dumbass keyboard warrior dip shits! @flograppling shut off Keenan? Well...that is lame!
'Athletes in our sport don't know how to stand up for themselves' most ironic statement ever
just stand up
For yourself
Super happy you did this one. 👏🏽
The OG of jiujitsu know Keenan. But the real question is, does Jay Rod know Keenan?
Huh. Didn't know Keenan lost himself to conspiracy theory mind rot. It's a shame, he seemed like one of the smart ones. He's just a Joe Rogan sheep after all.
Keenan is great, but he omitted an important fact, people started hating him when he was calling people out for training during covid, yet he trained every day. Shitty move, and well deserved hate.
Definitely need to get these two together weekly in a better studio setting. Great dialogue. Right amount of humor mixed with substantive observations. I'd totally watch these two regularly.
Craig makes BJJ interesting for people that don't know much about BJJ.
Tim Kennedy as the winner of the Austin bracket.
What conspiracy hasn’t turned out to be true ? 😂 they’ve been pretty spot on about all world events
Can @lessimpressedmoreinvolved come up with an Elo system? Sounds like somethinng he would have up his sleeve already
Tim Kennedy would be the last man standing
Did Keenan just say "what has Alex Jones been wrong about?"
What got Keenan "canceled?"
My absolute favorite grapplers of all time! Craig is my second favorite.
Good to see Mr. Beast giving Craig a good interview
You guys gotta do a episode 2, this episode is fuckin hilarious.
I feel like Craig Jones has perfectly mastered the art of trolling, I never know when he's trolling or being serious
I missed Keenan, fuck reddit
Samuel Braga is the head of my gym in Knoxville, he never talks about the bolo, and I haven't heard him claim it but he does teach it
Bro I’m trying to sleep and I can’t stop fucking laughing. The crystal shit has me dead ☠️
This was the funniest podcast so far
love keenan dude !!! been studying him since i was a whitebelt 9 years ago. i really love his content and his mindset and the way he explains things. i really hope he stays in BJJ. KEENAN > Gordon
Really enjoyed listening to this podcast, Keenan is a real smart guy.
Love Keenan. His ability to articulate jiujitsu is like no other.
If your crystals get knocked loose, do the Epley maneuver.
This was a good one. Shout out to Keenan for getting me in to BJJ. Now I train with morons 5 times a week and listen to Craig Jones when I'm at home. Maybe I shouldn't have started this at all... Thanks a lot Keenan.
I actually felt excited when Keenan was talking about the ELO ranking for grapplers and just let the street cred work loosely into the fighters putting their own money up for their matches.
I think too that there should be two separate rankings for grapplers - one for skill and proficiency and consistency and one for straight entertainer and showman.
I guess the problem is ELO applying to different rule sets such as spamming IBJJF No GI comps vs spamming ADCC opens, Both are No GI but they are pretty different in both rules and who competes
@@Lockdown335
You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling.
The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission.
I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.
@@Lockdown335
You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling.
The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission.
I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.
dudes were definitely trying to commit insurance fraud lmao
There are no respectable “Reddit points”
They are all gay, and not in the “keep bjj gay” “fun” way
Good to see Keenan back
man I forgot what a huge Keenan fan I used to be this was awesome
Two OGs of the game! Keenan needs to bring back the mat burn podcast
I’m proud that I watched this entire episode. So great.
What did hinger do?
You don't even want to know
@@nonglishq6727 im curious lol. I IMMEDIATELY AND CLEARLY saw that he was a effiminate snakey weirdo that ruined the vibe tho.
@@nonglishq6727 bra that’s why I’m asking
if these two started a podcast together id subscribe so fucking fast lol
the best podcast so far! great stories, flow and chemistry. BTW Keenan is so articulate, smart and good conversationist that you guys should upgrade to a joint podcast from now on!!
Ouch bro.... Waco was fucked .. they sniped. Tear gassed and burned those people
The current head of the ATF was there and posed for action hero type pictures in front of the scorched corpses of american children like he was a badass lmao.
Legion open mat is insane, if your in the area you should definitely go !!
Keenan needs to come to B team for a bit
Training with all these killers at TLI was the highlight of my early jiu jitsu despite the drama and swat teams. After being murdered continuously round after round, we would get demoted to lesser training circles. "You, go over there and fight Sarge" (Sijara, who was mincing up all the comp white belts).
Real question: Just how comfy is that couch?
Ethan has got some good info though - he’s like a walking Wikipedia, they all suck at history but present facts are pretty good - plus is the dynamics that make the simple man podcast good
Keenan is a very perceptive person - he asks the hard questions!
I respect when Keenan states he's not sure or doesn't know sometging rather than state it as fact
Thanks for the knowledge, along with the entertainment great stuff !
Kennan's Elo Rating Idea for BJJ sound genuinely fucking amazing. It would let guys like Gordon who are viewed as ahead of the heap to still have competition with past legends like Roger Gracie trying to beat their Elo. like Magnus Carlsen, he became the greatest chest player in the modern era but had a long time of chasing down Kasparov's Elo and then trying to break the record and breach a 2900 Elo. This is something all the promoters need to come together for now!
Good for Keenan man. Miss having him around the scene but glad to see he’s killing it