The UGLY Truth About CLEAN BEAUTY! | BEAUTIFUL & BOTHERED with Johnny Ross Ep. 16
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Beautiful and Bothered with Johnny Ross and Kevin Banzhaf | Episode 15
This week's episode of Beautiful and Bothered is all about the future of beauty! We discuss where the makeup industry is headed, including a much-needed end to toxic influencer culture and the lack of accountability from influencers like Jeffree Star, James Charles, and Jaclyn Hill. The misogynistic double standards female influencers face, the myths about "clean" beauty products, and brands focus on quality over quantity. They also discuss Johnny's traumatic experience flying with United Airlines, Patti Lupone dragging Kim Kardashian and Ryan Murthy, and Meghan Trainor's "f*ck teachers" controversy!
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I’m not huge into make up or beauty but you both have me watching, listening and learning each week. 49 years young from Australia.
50s here, and I adore these boys!
@@THEMamaVicky same here!
Same! 😊
37 in Oregon, and feel identically. Have never cared for any of this, but wholeheartedly value the opinions expressed here. Completely sold.
I'm new into diving into makeup and REALLY learning. I'm 45 and these 2 are a wealth of knowledge. Love ❤️ this
My pet peeve with "clean beauty", as someone with very sensitive skin, aside from claiming not to have something in their formulas like fragances or whatever when it's not true, is how difficult they make to find the complete list of ingredients, the real one, with everything. They hide it so much that you almost have to go to the deep web to find if their freaking mosturizer actually has whatever ingredient you're sensitive to on it.
Yesssss! I have an allergy to coconut, which is uncommon I guess. I have to bolo for coconut and any derivatives of coconut oils/esters/etc. It's been so hard to confirm the lack of coconut 😮💨
Your entire segment about the celebration of problematic influencers in the beauty community and the brushing over of actual crimes committed by those influencers was perfection. Please say it louder for people in the back still giving these people platforms 👏
One of my biggest pet peeves about the beauty industry, is the "clean" marketing tactic. I cannot stand it when companies make up BS for customers to be scared of just to sell us a product to fix it. I HATE IT SO MUUUUCH
I haven't heard of this before. What do you mean by clean marketing?
Nevermind: I kept watching the video. Lol
Agreed! There's nothing wrong with wanting all natural products. But the fear-mongering about clean beauty is just so ridiculous!
I’m so glad you actually said what James Charles did. He sent nude photos to minors, that’s an actual crime and can put you on a registry. So many people water it down and that’s not fair to his victims. I also don’t believe for a second that his influencer friends aren’t still connected and engaging with him off camera/social media. Who decides to promote his make up line will show exactly where their morals stand.
As someone who has multiple allergies, I get so irritated at being told something is “natural” or “clean.” I quit using my Mary Kay products that I loved because they were making me sneeze to death. And then I had to practically come to blows with the sales lady because she kept texting me that their products were “natural” and she wouldn’t leave me alone. I don’t care lady! Arsenic is natural, that doesn’t make it good for you. All I care about is will it make me sick? 🤧😩
I mean you shoudnt use them anyway because Mary k is a pyramid scheme
I have seen someone break out in blisters after using their lipstick. Also their complexion products give some people hives. I sold that crap for a little while.
@@tabithamayer2442 I believe it. I used their cleanser and moisturizer for about two years, and they actually were great on my skin, but I didn’t realize I was allergic. I’m allergic to a few common ingredients in many cosmetic products.
This! The dose makes the poison and some completely "natural" things are deadly!
Wow how awful. I completely agree as a fellow allergy of whatever sufferer. I used Mary Kay in the early 90’s and it was my saving grace! Now?? No way. I have had chemical rashes and contact dermatitis and this has suddenly happened with a lot of brands. I used to be able to use L’Oréal mascaras no problem. Now? A for sure visits to my eye dr or dermatologist. I just don’t get it. I’m tired of the lenient laws on marketing in the USA and since pandemic I feel like they really degraded their products with very cheap cheap filler chemicals and irritants. Many of my normal skin friends are now suddenly having issues too. Something weird is going on. I hope you find something you love. ❤
Ooo you should have James Welsh on the podcast and talk about the ugly side of the beauty industry! He does a series on his channel about lawsuits and marketing ploys and examples of the beauty industry being super harmful. So it would be super cool if you guys did a podcast episode together!❤
He was already interviewed by Johnny.
@@carolinek2446 That was Robert Welsh.
@@jo4vt haha they are not the same person
@@carolinek2446 u nailed it! 😂
Haha, this is our weekly reminder that they are not the same person 😊❤ But it would be fun having James. Both are such interesting and genuine people.
As a makeup lover, with no one else who I can talk to this extent, I want to thank you for this podcast. I keep yelling “yes” , “ i know,right” , “that’s what I’ve been saying!” . I find it so god damn weird that people don’t have the capacity to learn and research anymore, for example all this ingredient information I found out about 15 years ago, Paula’s choice book was the holy grail.
My aunt gave me the first copy of Paula Begoun’s book when I was a teen in 1988, back then her book was called ‘Blue Eyeshadow Should be Illegal’ 😂 I spent the entire Christmas vacation poring over every page and sucking up all the information, what a revelation it was. That’s what turned me into a skincare junkie eons ago 😂
Nepotism: It’s not what you know. But, who you know. 💔
As with the Meghan Trainor controversy, it sounds like a child who was forced to apologize, rather than a true heartfelt apology. So many people have forgotten what an apology really is! 😤
I’m so glad you guys dig into the “clean” product craze. I had no idea what goes into products until my now toddler developed severe eczema at 8 months old. A lot of the “clean” stuff was so much more problematic for him and even included actual allergens like nuts and soy. It’s been a huge learning experience about that labeling means nothing and you really have to dig into ingredients. It’s definitely made me more scrutinize my own products just in terms of not buying gimmicky stuff and looking for good solid formulas that perform at a good price.
Years ago, I tried a pomegranate moisturizer from Burt's Bees. That stuff was so fragranced it triggered an instant migraine; then it burned my skin. That was my epiphany.
The problem with "clean beauty" and other labels like "sugarfree" or "palm oil free" is that it only tells you what it isn't but not what it is. If not Parabens THEN WHAT??
“You can’t wear white eyeliner. 👀 and on Wednesdays we wear pink.” WTF. 🤬
Besides you two, Robert Welsh is the poster person for the most unproblematic person in the beauty community! Love, love, love the podcast!!❤❤❤
I love that Robert speaks his mind on products and toxic trends, and he doesn’t accept sponsorships.
Just want to make a correction about ingredient list for the US. I work for a cosmetic company, and any ingredient under 1% can be rearranged so it can appear higher than it actually is. Fyi.
The phrase, “caveat emptor,” (let the buyer beware,” is gospel truth in beauty. Also, “clean” beauty can sometimes be anything but, because without preservatives they can go bad quickly and I for sure do not want bacteria or mold on my face. 🤢
Truth. The real ‘clean’ makeup is the one with the appropriate preservatives that stays bacteria and mold-free, and safe to use on the skin.
I feel you with the airline issue. Just went through my own crap with American, they changed my departing flight from an airport 5min from me to one 2hrs away and at 6am. Had to cancel flights and get new ones and they charge me more- I was pissed to be charged more- so went back and forth for a couple months and finally got some compensation. Don’t give up if the airline tries to blow you off.
For me Emily Noel should be viral on UA-cam she's so genuine never changed from day one!
Yes. She’s delightful!
Yes!! Love her!! ❤
Yup, Emily's always been a real one!
I'd love a chat with Kaci Beauty, Lab Muffin Beauty and Cassandra Bankson who talk about the 'clean beauty/skincare' industry and trend and they are good at debunking ❤
Yes!!!
lab muffin beauty is so good! that would make an amazing episode, ill have to check out those other two!
I loved Kevin Aucoin’s personality-and I was devastated when he passed away. I was a teen in the 90’s and obsessed with fashion and makeup and super models and magazines. Love that they brought him up in such a positive way. I have his book “Making Faces” that I bought when it came out and I absolutely treasure it.
❤❤❤ subscribed and will be watching!!
Also I never liked Meghan Trainer and I feel so justified rn 😂
Someone said to me once, "people who say they are brutally honest are truly more invested in the brutality than the honesty" and OMG did that stick.
Also Kevin is right, there is a fashion, beauty and culture media brands' purge of laying off huge amounts of editors and writers, and Buzzfeed actually did lay off people to soon use ChatGPT for articles especially for quick clickbait
You both make Sunday's a whole hell of a lot better❣
It's so sad to hear that the beauty industry is no different to any other non make-up related industry. It doesn't matter what your qualification is, it only counts if you "know" someone... discouraging, sad and frustrating. Speaking from my own experience.
Wish you all the best, Johnny!
I could listen to these podcasts all day 🙂. I myself have been a victim of buying something because i didn't really understand the terms. The contour/bronzer confusion is a prime example. I don't think the beauty industry is particularly interested in educating us so we have to educate ourselves and we appreciate you for helping us make the right choices.
I totally feel for you about United and American Airlines. I fly Alaska Airlines. Also, thank you for all you said about drama influencers but you spoke to what the problems were and did not make it a personality attack. You both are lovely.
I LOVE Alaska airlines! I fly them anytime I can! ❤
Alaska airlines are the best 🥰🙌🏼
Been waiting for this! I just want honest, trustworthy 'influences' to watch. People I can learn from and who I know aren't promoting something crap just to line their pockets. ❤
When I get too much crap from an influencer, I simply unfollow or unsubscribe, I don't make a big deal of it and I believe most of us humble watchers are the same. You never know until you notice your numbers dwindle.
Appreciate the call out of the hypocrisy and how horrible this impacts the entire community and society with long term ramifications regardless of politics and misunderstandings when we’ve come so far
Thank you for your voice and presence and calling us all to both have more understanding, mercy, yet redemption and care in how we behave and approach celebrity, influencers, beauty, and our role in this as well as well as a call to integrity and quality over quantity and true artistic vision
Actually, ingredient lists arent from highest percentage to lowest. The first 10 ingredients are in highest to lowest, and then if it is 1% or less, it can be listed in any order. So the first ingredients are listed from highest to lowest, but not the whole list is listed that way.
Thank you for addressing the Megan Trainer issue. I am a teacher and I hold two other degrees as well including music. What she said hurt and as my mama used to say, “ if you put a nail in the fence then take it out, you still left a hole!” No matter the apology she still left a huge, hurtful hole… and let’s face the fact that the interview is still up! If you really wanna apologize then take it down never to be heard again!!!
I wish the future of beauty was whoever you want to be. Just wanted to say thank you for these podcasts. I’m probably not your target audience as I’m literally old enough to be your mama. 🤣 but you keep me informed in all manner of ways! Blessings from down Alabama way!
Love this podcast so much!!
Regarding the Huda thing…there’s a saying: It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. 🤷🏻♀️ I’ve never been a fan of hers.
It’s not only United, the entire airline industry is a disaster right now. If you have a multiple stop trip, you can’t make a change to a single stop without destroying the entire reservation and paying THOUSANDS of dollars to cancel and rebook (just call the airline in this case). There’s absolutely no concept of customer service, overbooking the flights in standard industry practice and they can just bump you for any reason, the staff is completely unsupported and untrained. It’s absolutely horrendous.
I had an airline try to refuse to let me onboard with my dog to Hawai'i when I had all our paperwork both faxed to airline and Hawaii's quarantine station, we already were approved by both. We had already been approved for re-entrance to Hawai'i by the quarantine station a long time prior to our flight.... I have never been one to make a fuss-but I basically told them no, we were already approved by both, and we were getting on the plane. We had been to Hawai'i before, he was a service dog, he was approved by the quarantine station for re-entrance, and we are getting on that plane for work -just because they were uneducated on the process wasn't our fault, and I sure as hell wasn't missing work for their error😂😂😂. And we were totally fine.
I think it's sad that the airline employees don't have education on BIG things like that- and like in your case, something that should have been basic knowledge. The cross the fingers and shrug 🤷🏽♀️ had me dying laughing lol what a tw@t move. 😢😂😢😅
There was a a whole Last night with John Oliver where he talked about companies paying to be carbon neutral which is like paying to be clean beauty in terms of those types of companies more or less I guess ...either way the episode really open my eyes to things
You boys are speaking the truth, I hope it gets heard everwhere. Népotism is so toxic, the right people are NOT in the right place and its applicable in so many areas, commerce, politics, fashion, art, movies, music etc etc .
I wake up every Sunday looking for the new Beautiful and Bothered episode!!
Going back and watching through older videos. So glad you spoke on this, because you're absolutely right about James Charles. And unfortunately, especially now since it's been so long, people aren't/weren't speaking on it. I will never understand how he can do something literally illegal, and what? Be "canceled" for a week? That is your punishment?!
It blows my mind how problematic, and borderline felonious, these people can be and still have a platform...still have an audience drooling over their every word. Sooo incredibly messed up and needs people like you guys to stand up and speak up on it.
THIS! this is WHY I have watched this channel! Real talk about real things.
Hang on, stop just a second we can no longer use a certain brand of photograpic film because of formaldehyde BUT it can be in make up?!? "Clean" make up? What the F
😂😢oh nooooo. I'm gonna go with the oil of Olay with hyaluronic acid (probably just as bad). I'm JUST about to jump in the shower, which the first thing I do after the shower is 🥁 🥁 🥁 slather on my Neutrogena Hydro Boost lotion. 😬🥴😩
Anyone who calls a "gloss" matte doesn't understand the term, clearly.
Love you guys. Thanks for another great podcast my loves ❤️
Thank you both for talking about toxic beauty influencers and the damage to the LGBTQ+ community that people like James Charles have done. With all the hate being directed at LBGTQ+ people right now, especially trans people, the last thing we need is a problematic influencer acting like their behavior is no biggie. I wish more people would call them out and make a stand because it's just giving the opressors more fuel for their generalizations and hatefulness. 😡
And on that note (😅), loved this episode, really enjoyed your critique of "clean" beauty, you're so on point! 💜
Edit: I used the word "oppressers", but I should have just used the word "bigots", because that's what they are. 🤷♀️
I didn't even know what Meghan Trainor said until you two talked about it. All I know is that I viscerally hate her music, each new song worse than the last. I won't watch any short/reel/tiktok that uses her music.
You’re so right about makeup artists originally coming to social media to escape the corporate world but now have kind of become corporate on UA-cam because that’s what sells and gets views
Makeup is like art, it's subjective. Everyone should be able to express themselves however they please.
I always fly Southwest, and I have never had a problem, I was in events for many years, and I flew several times a month for a long time and always used Southwest, I love Southwest so much. They are totally worth the money.
You guys should do an episode about makeup brands that are mlms and pyramid schemes and how awful they are
A product can be fragrance free and still have a scent because sometimes fragrances can be used for texture purposes or something that changes the formula of the product in a different way, and its not specifically in that product for the fragrance itself.
its the same with people on pr lists its who you know not how good you are or buy their products and rave about them and show them off and how to use them plus it all about how you look i love how honest you both are x
Love that you cakes out MT about her comment not even being live. I bet most people didn’t even realize. People with a platform should mind their words. And it’s gross that KK is on AHS😵💫
'Clean' sucks! I absolutely want preservatives in my skincare and makeup because I don't want mould or bacteria growing in my products! It's just marketing and a reason to hike up the price tag.
I only follow a handful of beauty influencers now - laurenmaebeauty, shaaanxo, robert welsh... just genuine makeup lovers and enjoyable content.
Nothing worse than skunky "natural" products.
This is my new favorite podcast! You’re both so talented, intelligent, and well-spoken. You guys are so refreshing. You give your takes with honesty but there’s empathy there. 💖💖💖
Really thought they got Robert Welsh to do an intro at first 😂
One of the things I love about you the most is that you ARE a drama free male in the industry. You are beautiful, talented, humorous, and such an inspiration. I absolutely adore you! I trust your advice completely!
Aw thank you! Haha I’m too old for all of that 😂😍
@Beautiful And Bothered Podcast I've purchased products on your recommendation alone and have never regretted one!
@@havefaithinyourface Aw I’m so happy they’ve worked for you! ❤️
Thank you both for talking about this stuff. I am so, so, so sick of Jeffree Star and James Charles and everyone tolerating or celebrating them for their BS.
Ah, so true about the difference between the makeup girls and guys at 14:00!
I thought clean beauty just meant it was for a “clean” minimal no-makeup makeup look 🤦🏻♀️🤣 personally I just want products that preform and don’t make my sensitive skin and eyeballs freak out - clean or not, drugstore or high end, I don’t care.
TikTok has its own toxicity outside of influencers. TT kind of convinces people (often underage or young enough that they have a limited income) to think they need one holy grail product after the other. When I was 14 I saw makeup trends and products in my YM or seventeen magazine 10x a year, and in movies and TV on occasion and that was it. Now people can binge dozens of “products you must have” in a short chunk of time.
I sit like Johnny does when sitting in chairs. I have always sat like this, even my grandmother sat this way. My kids sit this way as well. Feet up, to the side of your body, and comfortable.
The fact that I can’t find a good contour b/c the shade description starts with “warm...” and I’m immediately out 🤨🧐🤬
"Literally a teeth suck and double finger cross." 😂😂😂
Im still dying at Kevin when jonny is talking about formaldehydes "clean name" .... Oh i went to highschool with her....lolzzz
Thanks for teaching me why HydroBoost never worked in over 6 months. I got results w Inky List products within a month. 💜 Watching this!! Such a nice conversation with great topics and hosts!
I actually wrote a speech in uni about the term "cruelty-free," as a person who supports the movement. While there is a general consensus on the criteria (by way of some organizations), there is no legal definition of CF. I learned a lot about the legalities of labels like this and it's equally interesting as it is frustrating. I know for a fact that the hesitancy to criminalize animal cruelty in the US specifically has everything to do with our good friend capitalism 🤡
Meghan Trainor bugged me from the moment she released "All about that bass"... in that song she's totally talking down on people who are thinner, have small boobs and/or butts and stupidly saying "boys want a little more booty to hold at night" like seriously...?! First of all, no one's body should look a certain way for a partner and second of all, why talk shit on skinny people when we've been trying so hard the past years to put all body sizes as equal? That makes you no better than the people/magazines/media who (used to) fat shame people.
I've read articles that 100% are written by chatgpt!!! Anyone who wants to have anything to do with even their own, personal, at-home beauty at this point will need to be SO discerning, and this is just one example why.
Another interesting podcast. I don’t know much about the beauty industry but I feel like it mirrors society in general. Less quality, quick everything. I find all the output overwhelming. So, the future of beauty more quality & acceptance? Thanks!
I would love to take a moment that our B&B podcasters actually read the comments and takes the time to “like” and respond if necessary
The amount of work that goes into setting the background, finding topics and then editing to make the product we see is more than most folks will ever know
That they come back and like and respond as much as possible is incredibly heartwarming ❤
Thank you for making us part of the process, and making us feel heard
Love you both! I would watch to hear you recite the telephone book (does that even exist online? 🤷🏻♀️). Anyway, I love listening to you both-you are funny, intelligent and well spoken. So I will listen to you both every week!
I loved the instructional lookbooks Estèe Lauder and Lancôme put out for the holidays. It gave the basics to a few staples, which I still use as guidelines to make classic, basic, but bold looks with whatever colours I feel like, and it works because the technique is solid. I do wish I could do some of the artsy looks, but hooded eyes with little space between crease and brow make it challenging, though makeup artists like Robert Welsh doing tutorials help quite a bit toward working with what I have.
It's so funny about people saying which brand started the lip oil trend, because Sephora had pigmented lip oils in a test tube looking component back in 2015, and crickets. Nobody was talking about them. It was AMAZING, and I bought so so many tubes of it(Bubbly Grenadine) because it was so hydrating my lips were a healthy plump without using irritating ingredients to do it, and a light wash of colour as a bonus. It absorbed quickly leaving just the tiniest flush.
They d/c it, and now everyone and their cousin is putting one out, but they're more like pick a card, any card: hybrid oil infused glosses, sticky tacky not oily super glossy lip glosses, or no pigment to speak of lip oils that feel greasy.
I like Colourpop doing tons of releases, because they are always working on formulas, and they're inexpensive to try. They also seem to be listening to fan feedback, and fixing products that need it, making palettes refillable/easier to depot, or not making palettes one matte, one shimmer/metallic, one glitter colour, and the rest neutrals in a monochrome palette, but all shades in the same hue.
I'm a bit more old-fashioned, as in, if I like a foundation, I'll use it forever, or until they discontinue it after thirty years for foundation trends nobody wants and fifty shades of not Olive when Olive was your niche.
My one time flying with United was a nightmare(they tried to force my special needs kiddo to take a different flight, only he was five, and I paid for assigned seats, so I told them to pound sand, and went through six hours of hell to get a flight they wouldn't separate us on), so now it's American Airlines or Southwest.
I fell victim to being influenced into buying only "clean" beauty when I was younger. It wasn't until I started going to college earning a degree in science that I started to view the world with a grain of skeptism and learned the term "clean" means absolutely nothing and is up to the company to decide😂🤦♀️ But you know what's really ironic? So many of these beauty brands will be marketed as "clean", but still have the audacity to use ingredients that are technically "natural" but are still INCREDIBLY problematic. Like did you know that majority of mica (the mineral ingredient that gives many products their shimmer) is largely mined for using child labor? Yes, CHILD LABOR. I think most people would agree that's pretty despicable, and highly doubt most people would consider that "clean" to say the least. So in this case, I would personally consider synthetic mica that I know has been formulated in a lab without the use of child labor to be more "clean" than the naturally-occurring and questionably-sourced version. But as long as there's no definition to "clean", these companies get to keep getting away with this.
I don't want you to feel you have to be a drama queens guy to get views. You guys are both so funny and are so knowledgeable on all things skincare, beauty, and the industry. I was looking for a new influencer - someone who showed different looks and had different views and I found you guys. So very happy I did. You guys are amazing as far as this 52 yrs very white straight love everyone woman ❤
Every time I see a new episode I’m so excited I watch right away!! I love you both and the honesty and very real conversations!!
Also I’m so thankful you two share your expertise with us common folk instead of with ppl who don’t deserve you
Yay! Thank you so much! ❤
I’m going to preface this by saying: I love me a Drag Queen, I really, really do, I have always had every admiration for the looks they create.
Seriously? Wow. Beautiful, dazzling, artistic and incredible. I love it, get ready, get gorgeous and shake what the good Lord gave you.
However, as a middle-aged woman, I don’t usually choose to emulate Drag hair or makeup styles - I work for a charity! Arriving to work in a full cabaret look wouldn’t go over too well 😂.
Thank you so much for this from 🇬🇧.
Most respect for speaking up about all of the beauty drama. It was so hateful.
I do not want a side-order of racism, sexism, ageism etc, etc with my contouring tutorial.
A big thank you too for shining a light on the sexism in the industry - which goes both ways. I don’t care about the gender of the person applying my makeup. I do care about their ability to select appropriate products for my face, and to apply those products in a way that makes me look good. Particularly if they pass on hints and tips.
As a consumer, I want to know about the products I’m putting on my face; skincare and makeup, how it is being applied and why.
Another thank you for your honesty about the myth of ‘clean’ beauty. It is a nonsense, dreamt up by marketing departments to play on the latest socio-political trends.
If you are a lovely person (and you both are), please do tell me about your life. A little insight is a good thing.
The hatred on some channels is definitely not something that interests me, happily, this is not you.
Your approach makes a refreshing, entertaining and informative change.
Please keep doing what you’re doing, if you can’t already tell, I’m a fan.
Dude... your videos are super funny and everyone deserves to be made fun of. That's what comedy is! I love it when a comedian nails "my people". As long as it's not mean spirited, that's literally the point 😊❤ Keep it up my man
Thank you for talking about clean beauty. I would spend hours looking over ingredients used in products until I finally kinda gave up. Truth is some of the products that work the best use the worst ingredients. I managed to find a few clean beauty products I love but I quit using foundation because it caused my acne and rosacea to get worse. If you have any clean beauty recommendations please let us know! ❤
Our laws are so stringent in the U.K. regarding food, animal feed, skincare and make up and so I’d advise sticking to U.K. brands. Even items not considered ‘clean’ would never add eg fomaldihide as quite simply it is banned like thousands of other products as it is harmful. I don’t understand why the USA Govt seem quite happy for their population to be poisoned, I mean whoever thought up dunking chicken in chlorine would be a good thing to consume must be mad!. The other bit of advice is that the shorter the ingredient list, the less shite is in it to fill it out ok. Good luck 🤞🏻
Jsyk, it's not always what ingredients used but the quality of it and how much. So, clean beauty isn't inherently better than "non-clean" beauty. And clean is an unregulated marketing term. To start, I suggest looking at something like the ingredient readers/glossaries on the EWG or Paula's Choice websites.
@@kellygreengables3936 I know it’s often a marketing buzzword. Even still beauty products that don’t contain those bad chemicals tend to be harder to work with and harder to find in the US. I think I’m just better off paying customs for safer makeup that probably works better than what they sell in the US. 🙃
About the active ingredients percentage:
People looking for specific actives need to know what percentage they SHOULD come in. Example : Adapalene is effective at 0.1%, Salicylic acid at 1-2% so these would always be towards the end of the ingredients lists, but would still be effective. However other actives need to be at 10%,20%, 30% etc.
Honestly, now with brands like The Ordinary and others who actually state the percentage on the packaging, i don't bother with other brands that just stick the latest buzzy ingredient on the list. I need to know how much of it is in there. Oh and if something says it's "infused" with whatever i just imagine it sitting in the same room as that magic ingredient for a while 😁
Yasss give me more!!!!!❤❤ I could listen to yall talk about makeup all day 💯 I was sad when this episode ended ❤ yall
This is so perfect! I desperately needed to unwind after work so thanks in advance
It may be time for the queer community to call out these influencers that have misrepresented and are allowed to continue to be operational.
I love you guys❤ soo honest ! I agree with everything ❤
Matte glowy foundation this is so confusing😢
This is why we love Barbara she's always on trend😂😂😂 billion things in one product. She knows she knows!
Can contour be warm or cool based on your skin tone or no? Serious question. Because don't we all have different base tones?
Side note the last 15 mins of this is everything
Loved this episode. Watched the whole thing. Liked that you didn’t spend too long on each topic. Great pace. Keep up the good work! Xx
I’m literally laughing and snickering at your United Airlines flight debacle Johnny while I’m in the waiting room at my daughter’s gymnastics class lol. All the moms are looking at me like 🤔🤨..can’t get over the girl handing you the boarding pass🤞🏻😬 🤞🏻
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Additionally, I’m on the part where you guys talk about social media platforms essentially ruining the content you long form creators put out, listening to it sounds almost like IG and all the rest operate like a MLM..it’s like you can be spending every last second of time or last dollar to your name to get an amazing video up but if it doesn’t fit their algorithm bull crap it’s like oh well try again next time 🙄 it’s like there’s no rhyme or reason as to why certain content goes viral and some flop. (Or there is but we haven’t been let it in on the secret) They want everyone to work their asses off posting so the app never lacks content but only so many will be seen/ make it to the top 🫤 something about that business model just reminds me of when I was selling paparazzi jewelry. Invested so much into that company and I was lucky if I broke even at the end of it. Highly recommend NEVER doing that lol
The nepotism in any industry is just sad. I see it in my own industry, someones kid getting the best gigs just handed to them or getting all the thanks of the group effort 😒
I cannot with the two of you!. The gay besties we all need ❤
I'd much rather watch you both and have you be authentic and tell us how you honestly feel, without the nonsense ❤
I dont even like most podcast but this came up on my feed so i gave it a try and im happy i did!
Thank you clean means jack . Any company can come up with there definition of clean and determine what ingredients are clean and what are not . The leaping bunny is actually a legitimate certification
Lovely Ones !!! Always !!! With Lovely People !!
I do hope you enjoyed VA, its a beautiful state, but i am so sorry a bunch of terribleness happened im sure you did enjoy your ride between dc and Richmond ❤ its a beautiful drive
To specify about the buzzword fragrance-free debate: so it's actually "unscented" vs "fragrance-free". Unscented means there's still fragrance in it, but it's probably low on the ingredient list. Fragrance-free actually means there's no fragrance whatsoever in the list. This is what I've understood from watching videos from dermatologists and estheticians breaking down ingredient lists.
It took me many returns to figure out the difference. "No artificial fragrance" is another problematic one. That could still be really strong smelling (and allergenic)!
Do you watch Dr.Dray? She's AMAZING, an actual dermatologist, and is savage when she breaks down the bullshit in skin care!
I feel like Johnny borrowed that shirt from *Trevor* , IYKYK 😄
As someone who works in makeup I’ve noticed that brands are so obsessed with viral things and I wish they would go back to making the big legacy products
I could here you both talk all day ❤❤
1) You are amazing. You have such a multidimensional talent. Your personality is just Your dedication to everything beauty is exemplary. Your integrity is obvious. You ARE enough! You need not to play into anyone's dramatic bullshit, Fuck them. PLEASE NEVER STAY FROM YOUR TRUTH AND YOUR CONVICTIONS. THEY ARE SPOT ON FROM WHERE I SIT.
2). I LOVE that you are NOT DRAMA.
3) Anyone who said they don't lie is a liar. People who say they are honest are invariably dishonest.
Every. Single. Time.
4) Finally, for the characteristically abhorrent people who pop back on the scene to "rescue" us from the other characteristically abhorrent people:. In the movie "Mary Riley", Dr. Jekyll (John Malcovich) delivers one of the most "Holy shit that's totally true!!" lines ever delivered.
Dr. Jekyll responding to the criticism he received from a madam: "On the RARE occasion when people like (_add name)_ are not at fault themselves, they are liable to experience a rush of righteous indignation."
So true.
Peace!
Oh my goodness. I enjoy you two, SO much!
But why was the customer service agent acting like she was selling you a stolen Coachella wristband and didnt know if youd be able to get in or not😂😂😂
I really look forward to and enjoy you both the openness and honesty on beauty community issues the makeup industry overall its so refreshing to hear both your perspectives on all of it and shedding light on all the shadiness and you two are hilarious.....and thankyou for clarity on contour and bronzer it is so frustrating to hear beauty influencers giving makeup tutorials and not knowing the difference or not teaching the difference using them interchangeable as im yelling at the screen no no contour is cool toned to sculpt out your features define them bronzer is warm toned to add color and warmness back into the face as they dust bronzer all over and say now that im contoured and bronzed as im seeing harsh lines not blendedor patches of bronzer not blended out uuuugggghhhhh with this weeks favorite bronzer for there sponsored video and then rarely see them use the product thats there favorite again lmao im no expert by any means but come on teach the basics properly and be true to what your favorites are and not just because you got sponsored for it we see right through the bs and brands cranking out product after product before we can enjoy one here they all come ...makeup is individual its what we feel our best version of ourselves in even if its an old trend if i wanna rock thin brows and bronzed and highlighted to the the bronzer highlight gods no one is gonna tell me i cant and that im too old to wear shimmer or bold colors so thankyou for keeping it real speaking your mind being our voice you both rock ....and i agree teach the basics and then incorporate it into todays new wave of makeup...im rambling but i just appreciate you both and what you have to say
I will always advocate better living through chemistry! Preservatives are our friends, and I will die (at a ripe old age) on this hill!
Not those nepo babies.....
Not only in business, this nepotism is destroying medical education too.....
I have a student whose dad works in this embassy (higher-up kinda). That kid rarely comes to class, almost never attend exams in time, and barely studies.
Medical education is never a piece of cake, as a life is involved. Carelessness can kill a person. And now here I am, the principal of the institution is kinda pressuring my department mentors to make that girl pass no matter what, even if she doesn't study at all.
One THOUSAND PERCENT WITH YOU TWO on the "grooming" situation. Predominantly it's older straight white males, who are usually caught doing that exact same thing.