Here in the Philippines the elite special forces are hardly trained in kali- arnis, a world reknown Filipino mixed Martial Arts,a last resort for defense, if runs out of ammos,they carry a dagger or a sharp Kris.
My favorite bayonet story came from when Marines were clearing houses in Ramadi. A marine was going down a flight of steps and saw the barrel of an RPK poke around a corner in the darkness and he instinctually grabbed it and pushed it away from him. At the same time he pulled his knife and stabbed roughly where the insurgents neck was but it met resistance in the dark, the marine thought it was body armor. He put all his muscle into it and slowly pushed the blade into the screaming insurgent until he went quiet. Another marine rounded the corner and illuminated the insurgent with his tac light. The Marine was unaware the insurgent was lower as he was going down the stairs and in the darkness had driven his bayonet into the insurgents skull.
@Nairobin your right it happened In Afghanistan as well but they did have one in 2003 or 2004 in Iraq if you care to look it. The brits love there bayonets lol
Bayonet charges offers shock value in storming positions even if there isn't many casualties from the boyonet itself. You can find examples of this all over ww2
Besides that none of these militaries ever dough man to man. 😂 the roman legions were a unit and fought as a unit. They used every advantage or made every advantage to kill the enemy using any means necessary. It was never a fair fight if they could help it.
@@max420thc you are talking about tactics, but the Romanian legionnaire was also trained for individual combat. which was the base in all the ancient medieval armies
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In Desert Storm I did POW collection and transport, when moving them onto and off transport we had fixed bayonets. When you fix a bayonet to the end of your weapon your whole attitude changes, you can instantly feel a spike in aggression. The bayonet needs to stay in the inventory of the Army and Marine Corp.
Not only dose it scare the hell outta them its a freggin knife on the end of your gun! Perfect tool for finishing off downed enemy's, killing surrendering enemy's, killing enemy's when your low on amo, and can be used as a normal knife for cooking or other basic task.
@@angryfoxzd5233 Killing enemy prisoners is still a war crime, for which you can receive a jail sentence. That you don't think you should follow the rules of war shows the poor state of discipline in the American military and the lack of concern Americans have for non-Americans. When I was in the British military we had lectures and films about the treatment of prisoners. If I had disobeyed the rules of war I may well have been courtmartialed. As unfortunately happened to a Royal Marine sergeant who killed a wounded Taliban fighter and got prison time.
For multiple times, when my rifle jammed after repeated trigger pulling, the very first thing came into my mind was "I still have grenades and the bayonet.". A sharpened bayonet is the best tool for survival, and the silent weapon for an ambush. No high tech gear can replace that, ever. 😎
My slumber this night is secured by these ruff 'n tough young men between me and the enemies of America. There is no place for political correct social experimenting in war fighting.
" Maggot what is the spirit of the bayonet ? " "To kill kill kill with cold blue steel Drill sergeant !!!!" " Maggot what makes the grass grow ? " " Blood Blood Blood !!!!!! "
@@ReckerFidelWOLF, doubt it. Historically the "useful idiots" have always had a horrible kill ratio (unless they're attacking unarmed civilians) and the Soviet Empire crumbled a few years before I joined the Army. China's still keeping socialist values alive with their genocidal, totalitarian regime but I'm a bit old for combat now even if they did more than oppress their own people and impotent saber rattling at the rest of the world. The infinite jest is that I'll probably die of old age rather than on an adventure but at least it won't be from suicide.
@@markbeyea4063 I don`t think so Mark. There is nothing you can do about that but a man who is Armed with Cold Steel facing you is quite another prospect. A lad I worked with told me, he served in The Falklands Conflict and they got the order to fix Bayonets, suddenly, all the usual mouth pieces went very quiet. Thankfully, he never had to use it and was glad when the Action was over and I can fully understand where he was coming from.
My paternal Grandfather was in the Polish Army in September 1939 and told me that the Germans were terrified of night time bayonet charges by the Poles, because the Wehrmacht didn't train for hand-to-hand combat, whereas the Wojsko Polskie was highly skilled in using the fixed bayonet, unfixed bayonet, and entrenching tool during a melée. Standard practice was to never have a round chambered during a charge, so as not to shoot any of Your buddies while wielding and swinging Your weapon (Mauser kar. 98, or a wz. 29).
Ka-Bar is pronounced "KAY-bar." Bayonets are still useful as all around tools and, since rifles run out of ammo and resupply isn't always immediately possible, by fixing a bayonet you can still use the rifle as a deadly weapon to make holes in the enemy, albeit at close quarters.
First of all, the ka-bar hasn’t been standard issue for a long time now, second of all, the last bayonet charge was in the Korean War and there have been extremely few casualties from bayoneting, because you rarely end up close enough to use it and when you do, the scenario doesn’t require it. You would never fix you bayonet in modern close quarters combat but rather use it by itself as a combat knife, and that, only when all else fails and you are disarmed or completely out of ammo. Did you ever even serve? If so, where, when and what (mo)
Maybe the item that turned a one shot weapon into a pike is still in use today and will be for the foreseeable future is because it is still effective, even if as a psychological weapon.
Never been in a battle, or fired my weapon in anger, but by God, I'd rather have a bayonet then not. Guns jam, ammo runs out, radios fail, satellites are now vulnerable, that arty might not get there, air support may be late. Even in my home, my weapon of last resort is a Zulu assagai. Nah, if they didn't issue me one, I'd get one some how.
"why does American military still use the bayonet" Because every other nation uses the bayonet and a bayonet/bayonet lug combined weigh maybe 2 pounds and don't require much servicing to maintain lethality and increase CQB lethality and cost maybe 100 bucks per units and can last decades. Plus all the utility of a knife. Saved you 8 minutes.
I've read in several military history books that the bayonet has been poo-pooed and called obsolete many times. Every time the US army has gotten involved in a war the TROOPS have demanded a pointy thing to put on the front of their weapons. Who would you listen to?
This video helps to explain how training for combat sets a mindset that may seem abstract at the time, but will kick in later on. I know from experience
I went through Infantry (OSUT) in 1990, we spent a lot of time on bayonet drills and had a course we had to run through and bayonet tires or targets. It is very simple when you run out of ammo or your position gets overrun bayonets are valuable along with fighting skills. There area cases in many US battles were baronets were used.
@@tomobrien6983 Rubber Ducks are decommissioned stripped rifles (internal components removed) and coated with a thick polyurethane. My first rubber duck during RBFT was an M16A1. Seeing A2s converted into trainers makes me feel my age. My only consolation is knowing the Corps still uses 20” barrel A4s.
@@arminiuschatti2287 oh ok, and yeah i can imagine so, i personally prefer the AK platform to the AR, but if i was a solider who saw combat and used the AR platform in the form of any of the variants of the M16 the US army fields for its soldiers i would probably have a new outlook on it after using it to keep myself alive.
I was trained in 1968 at Fort Ord, CA in the US Army. We trained with M-14 rifles with bayonets, ala' Korea and WWII. I got to Vietnam in 1969 with the second version of the M-16 rifle. We were told we would not be issued bayonets, even though the M-16's had mounting lugs, because the barrel was so flimsy that if you planted the bayonet in the enemy it would bend the rifle barrel, rendering it useless. Inspired great confidence in the black plastic rifle!
Mass bayonet charges are no longer viable, but rapid advance on an enemy position is. When you have to rush an enemy position (modernly with friendly suppressing fire and hopefully smoke) you might find yourself in hand to hand combat. A spear length weapon is nicer for that than a knife. Also, close quarters in houses, or bunkers, or jungle, where you could realistically have to fight within ranges of a few feet/meters, a bayonet allows you to have a melee weapon ready without fumbling to draw a knife in the middle of a fight. Additionally, if the weapon malfunctions, it's better than nothing. I recall in the book "Black Hawk Down" the Ranger leader (McKnight I think was his name) wished he'd told his men to bring bayonets during the night fighting because of how close the enemy came to overrunning their position (they were practically in the same house on several occasions), and how close they came to running out of ammo. Bayonets fall in the category of "You probably won't need it, but if you ever do, you will REALLY need it."
British army fixed bayonets for company platoon section charges in the Falklands war, Scots Guards ,2 Para, in fact numerous bayonet charges seemed to have occurred from reading various personal accounts . Lt Dytor from Royal marines , sensing his platoon were starting to run out of ammunition when a stalemate had occurred during an assault against argentine Hill, stood up on his own with bayonet fixed , and charged up the hill screaming Zulu Zuu Zulu ! , inspired his platoon got up and followed . and in Iraq Afghanistan also on occasions
You’re missing the point. Most people are more scared of knives and they are of guns. The reason is most people have experienced the pain of being cut. But they haven’t experienced the pain of being shot. So they have a visceral fear reaction to seeing a bayonet. Psychological intimidation
There was once a Marine unit who ran out amo while facing a numerically superior force that had plenty of amo. They mounted bayonets and began to charge. That was sufficient to make the Africans turn and run.
As my SOI instructor put so eloquently, you may never need to use a bayonet, but having one lets the enemy know you're willing to take it to that level
Great vid! I still remember my course. Nothing unlocks the warrior spirit like the call to "fix bayonets" and picture yourself trusting it into the enemy, even if the enemy is just a tire lol.
While in the Canadian Army in the 1970s, I remember being trained on bayonet fighting with our FN C1s. Our instructor, a Sergeant who was a Korean War vet held up the bayonet and said that nobody really likes the thought of sticking this cold hard piece of steel into another man’s guts, except maybe for some psychopath. Just remember that the other guy has received the same sort of training as you did, and if you don’t kill him he’ll certainly kill you. So, you need to get over that apprehension by stabbing other things. We used hay bales, and later a pair of mechanic’s coveralls stuffed with hay. We never used tires, but that does seem to be a better and longer lasting target as the coverall dummy was unusable after about 30 guys went at it.
The reason,they still use it,is because it's phycological warfare,while it's not very usefull in a fight,the enemy sees that knife and it instils fear in them,similar too a flaming arrow did in medieval times.
Modern bayonets are basically combat knives that can be stuck on a rifle as an added feature, knives will always be useful in combat because they always work they can kill when needed or be used for any number of different things. Also interesting point to note studies have shown that people are more intimidated and show more fear when confronted with someone carrying a rifle with affixed bayonet than no bayonet on the rifle.
Relatively few people have been shot...almost everyone has cut or stabbed themselves...you know the danger of a gun in your head, you know the danger of a knife in your gut.
Bayonets aren't just a backup. They're incredibly useful for "crowd control" confrontations during civil unrest when shooting would not be an option. As long as men fight each other, there will be instances in which they come face-to-face. And when they come face-to-face, "fix bayonets!"
The reason the bayonet is still around is for psychological reasons. You always have a way to defend yourself from the enemy if your weapon malfunctions or you run out of ammo.
I thought we learned our lesson about eliminating our options! In Vietnam they built our jet fighters without machine guns. "We didn't need them anymore" BIG MISTAKE. They soon returned. Bayonets are a wonderful tool, its a multitool with many uses. "Its better to have one and never need it than to need one and not have it" Lets not learn the hard way again!!
The older M-7 bayonet was a great bayo and not heavy to carry all the time. When they gave me the M-9, it was a cool looking knife but a pain in the ass to carry.
it’s less of a tactical thing of learning to use the bayonet, and more of a mental thing. having a platoon or a squad charge you with a bayonet screaming at the top of their lungs is way scarier than some guys shooting near you
the British bayonet charge resulting quite impressive, you still have the courage and discipline of waging a bayonet charge to win the battle. those part remain the same
When I was in service in the mid 80's they issued us the M7 bayonet for our rifles. I can tell you this from experience, if you ever want to be completely worn out tired, run the bayonet course..great work out lol. You start out on fire "KILL KILL KILL!" and are dragging ass near the end of it lol. I still have my M7 bayonet. Although it might not ever be used for it's original purpose I always found it really comforting to have it on my side anyway..kind of in the same way maybe carrying a good stick or club might be. Just extra insurance. I'll carry it hunting sometimes lol. Like the the guy in the vid says though , I eventually became an M203 Grenadier and couldn't mount the bayonet on my weapon anymore..but I still found all sorts of uses for it in the field anyway. I hope our military always continues to issue the bayonet to troops. Better to have a weapon and not need it than the other way around.
I went to Parris Island in 1968. The bayonet & its Use were taught & emphasised as the last ditch weapon ( an entrenching tool was also An option!) Finally, The Corps combined the bayonet & the K-bar!! To This day I still carry a bayonet/ K-bar when hunting, fishing, or around The ranch. A fighting knife Or both, or the combination Of both ( now issued) Seems as normal to put on as a pair of boots! Maybe I am Old Corps, but I had Rather have " The blade" With me in the case that I Need it/ rather than need It & not have it!
@Walter Kaczmarek so true, I don’t even know how they’re seen as a political party anymore as so many of their policies and ideas are hell bent on destroying this country.
Why does the bayonet still exist in a short version: Ran out of ammo? : bayonet Enemy attack from 2 feet away: bayonet Need to cut anything? : bayonet Do you need to kill without mercy? : bayonet
We don't do this in the Army. When I was company armorer, my CO and I counted our bayonets, made sure it matched the number on his property books, placed them in tough box, wrapped two thick metal bands with clamps around the box, used 2 serialized military approved locks AND 2 serialized metal band seals just to ensure their was no tampering with his property. We thin typed a memorandum stating the total number of bayonets in the box, Commander signed it, and I taped memo to outside of tough box. Nobody touched them shits until 18 months later when we got a new CO and did it all over again.
Surprise, the US Army does not provide Bayonet training in Basic training nor do they issue Bayonets to solders. Check your data and your video title for click bait.
Crowd control. Karan won't believe you will shoot until after she starts bleeding. The bayonet can be moved slowly forward and non-combatants will move back. In combat, carry 6 ounces more ammo or another battery instead.
My kid is in now 11B & I asked him about this a few weeks ago & he said they don't really teach much about bayonet fighting anymore, it's a damn shame.
A GOOD BAYONET WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE , BETTER TO HAVE A BAYONET THAN NONE AT ALL! I CARRY BAYONET AND A K-BAR! RUN OUT OF AMMO , GET INO A TIGHT SPACE FIGHT MY B WILL SAVE YOUR 6.
There is just something about a long stick with a pointy, sharp thing attached to its head that instantly triggers an instinctual kind of "crap in your pants" terror in most people when see they're about to be on the receiving end of said long stick with the pointy sharp head.
I was in for 8 years (USAR 11B infantryman). The only time I ever used a bayonet was in basic. After that, nope. Sure we had knives but we put the bayonet into the conex box.
US Army basic training stopped teaching the bayonet years ago. Just as well since that was the only time in 5 years and two deployments that I was ever issued one.
Most of these comment speak to the uselessness of a good blade. Total BS. As long as there are riflemen, there will be a need for bayonets. A Bayonet is for the unanticipated ‘not gonna happen’ event and is better to have than to not have.
I’m korean who used to serve in ROK Marine corps, we also trained how to use bayonet but only in Boot camp. We don’t use bayonets in real combat these days.
During a exercise for active shooter I remember I yelled out fix bayonets and actually put one on my m4. And while I got laughs from the training NCO, I definitely got told never to actually use a bayonet again.
1 Bayonets have the second lowest failure rate of all weapons. The lowest rate of failure has been Atomic Bombs. 2 when dealing with rioters or POWs a bayonet is the perfect weapon for obtaining compliance without resorting to lethal force. 3 When I was training Recruits we also had Pugil Sticks to augment Bayonet training. They were the best combination for approximating the mental state of true, personal combat. When under fire for the first time the new soldiers were less likely to freeze or cower because they had previously been through the same stress and it was familiar to them.
In Phil. Marine Recon, they have "Barong" a 22 inch one sided bladed sword. It is useful for hand to hand combat. It can stab ,cut,slash and beheaded enemy combatants. Gruesome but deadly effective.
Fort Jackson, 1967, basic training...
"What is the spirit of the bayonet?"
"To kill, to kill without mercy!"
Ft Bennington ho ra!
The spirit of Camp Pendleton, if it comes to hand to hand shoot the hell out of them
"To cut, slash, and lacerate!"
And on occasion, to cut wire, open cans, dig holes.
Who are you? THE QUICK!
Who are they? THE DEAD!
Kil kill kill with cold blue steel!
Better to have them and not have to use them than not have them when you need them
Not in the Military, but Oorah!!
Well Said!! 🔪🤺
Until you’re carrying it in a pack….
It’s gonna evidently be irreverent in the future however I think they should keep them but just got knife to knife or hand combat
Unless you have an endless supply of ammo, at some point that pig sticker just might come in handy
Hand-to-hand combat will always be around, so will the bayonet.
Here in the Philippines the elite special forces are hardly trained in kali- arnis, a world reknown Filipino mixed Martial Arts,a last resort for defense, if runs out of ammos,they carry a dagger or a sharp Kris.
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it
Crowd Control
@@ghemminger1 no I like to have it and use it forget that sugar coating stuff and A knife has more then one use
@@outdoorvideoswithbrad I always carried it as part of my load out
My favorite bayonet story came from when Marines were clearing houses in Ramadi. A marine was going down a flight of steps and saw the barrel of an RPK poke around a corner in the darkness and he instinctually grabbed it and pushed it away from him. At the same time he pulled his knife and stabbed roughly where the insurgents neck was but it met resistance in the dark, the marine thought it was body armor. He put all his muscle into it and slowly pushed the blade into the screaming insurgent until he went quiet. Another marine rounded the corner and illuminated the insurgent with his tac light. The Marine was unaware the insurgent was lower as he was going down the stairs and in the darkness had driven his bayonet into the insurgents skull.
YESSIR!
The British also turned back Iraqis with a bayonet charge
@@saharafox8209 I think that was Afghanistan actually.
@Nairobin your right it happened In Afghanistan as well but they did have one in 2003 or 2004 in Iraq if you care to look it. The brits love there bayonets lol
@@saharafox8209 oh shiiii lol
Bayonet charges offers shock value in storming positions even if there isn't many casualties from the boyonet itself. You can find examples of this all over ww2
If you use the British army you have examples such as goose green, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Even now, I carry a bayonet for my Mossberg 590. Still great for backup when ammo is short
Same here bro
Are you active?
If I need to conserve ammo I’ll gladly use a bayonet I mean seriously why wouldn’t you
A bayonet on a shotgun, now that shows the enemy that you are not gonna go down with out a hell of a fight... I use an okc3s on mine as well.
When you're out of ammo, but you still have your rifle with the bayonet fixed in place, you still have a formidable weapon in your hands
.the bayonet attack separates "children" from warriors. the army that does not train its soldiers to attack with a bayonet is a lost army ...
Maybe because the enemy is 800 meters away shooting at you
Since ancient Rome a warrior fights man to man combat
God made larger men dumb and smaller men smart for a reason.
Dead is dead.
Besides that none of these militaries ever dough man to man.
😂 the roman legions were a unit and fought as a unit. They used every advantage or made every advantage to kill the enemy using any means necessary. It was never a fair fight if they could help it.
@@max420thc you are talking about tactics, but the Romanian legionnaire was also trained for individual combat. which was the base in all the ancient medieval armies
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@@thelegendaryt-rex4763 Agreed friend May trump, china and russia ALL rot in hell.
All of you people deserve what Biden and his woke Army is going to do to you.
In Desert Storm I did POW collection and transport, when moving them onto and off transport we had fixed bayonets. When you fix a bayonet to the end of your weapon your whole attitude changes, you can instantly feel a spike in aggression. The bayonet needs to stay in the inventory of the Army and Marine Corp.
Yes, and prisoners that are not afraid of being shot tend to still be afraid of getting stuck with a bayonet. Used them in GWOT....OEF/OIF.
Not only dose it scare the hell outta them its a freggin knife on the end of your gun! Perfect tool for finishing off downed enemy's, killing surrendering enemy's, killing enemy's when your low on amo, and can be used as a normal knife for cooking or other basic task.
@@angryfoxzd5233 Killing an enemy that has surrendered constitutes a war crime!
@@stevebarlow3154 tell that to every country ever. No one actually follows these rules they just make sure the media never finds out.
@@angryfoxzd5233 Killing enemy prisoners is still a war crime, for which you can receive a jail sentence. That you don't think you should follow the rules of war shows the poor state of discipline in the American military and the lack of concern Americans have for non-Americans. When I was in the British military we had lectures and films about the treatment of prisoners. If I had disobeyed the rules of war I may well have been courtmartialed. As unfortunately happened to a Royal Marine sergeant who killed a wounded Taliban fighter and got prison time.
For multiple times, when my rifle jammed after repeated trigger pulling, the very first thing came into my mind was "I still have grenades and the bayonet.". A sharpened bayonet is the best tool for survival, and the silent weapon for an ambush. No high tech gear can replace that, ever. 😎
So eliminate the bayonet, then watch how your enemy responds with more close quarter fighting.
Look at the way the Taliban acted around the time the army got rid of bayonet training. It got real up close and personal
My slumber this night is secured by these ruff 'n tough young men between me and the enemies of America. There is no place for political correct social experimenting in war fighting.
I am pretty sure 5000km is also quite a safe distance to sleep from your enemy.
Try telling that to my commander when the trans ban got lifted
" Maggot what is the spirit of the bayonet ? "
"To kill kill kill with cold blue steel Drill sergeant !!!!"
" Maggot what makes the grass grow ? "
" Blood Blood Blood !!!!!! "
The bayonet is a security blanket for when all else fails!!
Screaming "FIX BAYONETS!!!" to your soldiers, or in any onset of a fire fight, scares the living shit out of everyone who hears that command!
NCIS Gibbs' Rule #9 Never go anywhere without a knife .
Even as a civilian. I live in the Caribbean you never know when there's a fruit around to cut.
Yes indeed
Lol, Please say thats a standing order from General "Maddog" Mattis! He said the same thing, but coming from him, it holds more weight
Blood makes the green grass grow
Red blood makes the green grass grow.
The commie Reds' blood, preferably.
@@warpartyattheoutpost4987 Better dead than red? It can happen.
@@ReckerFidelWOLF, doubt it. Historically the "useful idiots" have always had a horrible kill ratio (unless they're attacking unarmed civilians) and the Soviet Empire crumbled a few years before I joined the Army. China's still keeping socialist values alive with their genocidal, totalitarian regime but I'm a bit old for combat now even if they did more than oppress their own people and impotent saber rattling at the rest of the world. The infinite jest is that I'll probably die of old age rather than on an adventure but at least it won't be from suicide.
KILL KILL KILL
A rifle without a bayonet, is like a day without sunshine.
😂😂😂
One of the most terrifying orders a Soldier can get is FIX BAYONETS !! CHARGE !!
I would argue that the warning/command, "Gas!, Gas! Gas!" is far more terrifying.
@@markbeyea4063 I don`t think so Mark. There is nothing you can do about that but a man who is Armed with Cold Steel facing you is quite another prospect. A lad I worked with told me, he served in The Falklands Conflict and they got the order to fix Bayonets, suddenly, all the usual mouth pieces went very quiet. Thankfully, he never had to use it and was glad when the Action was over and I can fully understand where he was coming from.
Japanese soldier: Oji-san I shall make you proud
My paternal Grandfather was in the Polish Army in September 1939 and told me that the Germans were terrified of night time bayonet charges by the Poles, because the Wehrmacht didn't train for hand-to-hand combat, whereas the Wojsko Polskie was highly skilled in using the fixed bayonet, unfixed bayonet, and entrenching tool during a melée. Standard practice was to never have a round chambered during a charge, so as not to shoot any of Your buddies while wielding and swinging Your weapon (Mauser kar. 98, or a wz. 29).
Ka-Bar is pronounced "KAY-bar." Bayonets are still useful as all around tools and, since rifles run out of ammo and resupply isn't always immediately possible, by fixing a bayonet you can still use the rifle as a deadly weapon to make holes in the enemy, albeit at close quarters.
I know they have the same design and are probably used as bayonets too now but Ka-Bar is originally the knife.
Got damn truth, Mr Shelton
It's a stupid robot reading a script. Like from Read Write gold software
Kill a bear, great knives. I own a couple of em
First of all, the ka-bar hasn’t been standard issue for a long time now, second of all, the last bayonet charge was in the Korean War and there have been extremely few casualties from bayoneting, because you rarely end up close enough to use it and when you do, the scenario doesn’t require it. You would never fix you bayonet in modern close quarters combat but rather use it by itself as a combat knife, and that, only when all else fails and you are disarmed or completely out of ammo. Did you ever even serve? If so, where, when and what (mo)
Maybe the item that turned a one shot weapon into a pike is still in use today and will be for the foreseeable future is because it is still effective, even if as a psychological weapon.
When you run out of shells, a strong knife is a God send!
You ever run out of ammo you'll want that pointi stick
Never been in a battle, or fired my weapon in anger, but by God, I'd rather have a bayonet then not. Guns jam, ammo runs out, radios fail, satellites are now vulnerable, that arty might not get there, air support may be late. Even in my home, my weapon of last resort is a Zulu assagai.
Nah, if they didn't issue me one, I'd get one some how.
I would try crafting one. I just don't know how lmao
They were made in machine shops on boats,in rear with the gear. If they weren’t issued you would find one guaranteed.
"why does American military still use the bayonet"
Because every other nation uses the bayonet and a bayonet/bayonet lug combined weigh maybe 2 pounds and don't require much servicing to maintain lethality and increase CQB lethality and cost maybe 100 bucks per units and can last decades.
Plus all the utility of a knife.
Saved you 8 minutes.
Why a bayonet? Because supply has a very hard time keeping you supplied with ammo. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
They are knives you put on the end of a gun, they are cool, and when the time comes to say fuck it, bayonets work a treat in last ditch efforts.
I've read in several military history books that the bayonet has been poo-pooed and called obsolete many times. Every time the US army has gotten involved in a war the TROOPS have demanded a pointy thing to put on the front of their weapons. Who would you listen to?
The politicians and bean counters, duh!
The BOYS! They know what the hell is true.
" What's the purpose of the bayonet ?? To kill , kill , kill". Semper Fi
You tell em, marine.
All my rifles have a bayonet for them. Never know when you'll have to make that grass grow.
This video helps to explain how training for combat sets a mindset that may seem abstract at the time, but will kick in later on. I know from experience
You don’t attach the bayonet
YOU ATTACH THE GUN
Opening MREs and breaking down boxes, that hit home......because of MOS 92g....
Any soldier who ever served with Colonel Robert Lee "COLD STEEL" Powell knows why we need the bayonet.
Nothing more scary than to hear a Black Watch Sergeant shouting "FIX BAYONETS"!
Why? Cuz being able to stick somebody with the pointy end on a long rifle beats using your hands if you run out of ammo
I went through Infantry (OSUT) in 1990, we spent a lot of time on bayonet drills and had a course we had to run through and bayonet tires or targets. It is very simple when you run out of ammo or your position gets overrun bayonets are valuable along with fighting skills. There area cases in many US battles were baronets were used.
It breaks my heart seeing all those A2s reduced to trainers. I personally prefer the M7 bayonet. No finesse; just a sharp blade to gore your enemy.
You’re talking about the m16/A2 correct?
@@DeathToFrankLung I am indeed. The Corps goofed the M16 up with unproven shenanigans, BUT you cannot hate a weapon that saved your life.
Those are rubber training rifles, had them even when I went through boot in 85
@@tomobrien6983 Rubber Ducks are decommissioned stripped rifles (internal components removed) and coated with a thick polyurethane. My first rubber duck during RBFT was an M16A1. Seeing A2s converted into trainers makes me feel my age. My only consolation is knowing the Corps still uses 20” barrel A4s.
@@arminiuschatti2287 oh ok, and yeah i can imagine so, i personally prefer the AK platform to the AR, but if i was a solider who saw combat and used the AR platform in the form of any of the variants of the M16 the US army fields for its soldiers i would probably have a new outlook on it after using it to keep myself alive.
I mean, you never know you if you're ever gonna need an additional stab on the enemy in close quarter combat with a rifle.
I was trained in 1968 at Fort Ord, CA in the US Army. We trained with M-14 rifles with bayonets, ala' Korea and WWII. I got to Vietnam in 1969 with the second version of the M-16 rifle. We were told we would not be issued bayonets, even though the M-16's had mounting lugs, because the barrel was so flimsy that if you planted the bayonet in the enemy it would bend the rifle barrel, rendering it useless. Inspired great confidence in the black plastic rifle!
Mass bayonet charges are no longer viable, but rapid advance on an enemy position is.
When you have to rush an enemy position (modernly with friendly suppressing fire and hopefully smoke) you might find yourself in hand to hand combat.
A spear length weapon is nicer for that than a knife.
Also, close quarters in houses, or bunkers, or jungle, where you could realistically have to fight within ranges of a few feet/meters, a bayonet allows you to have a melee weapon ready without fumbling to draw a knife in the middle of a fight.
Additionally, if the weapon malfunctions, it's better than nothing. I recall in the book "Black Hawk Down" the Ranger leader (McKnight I think was his name) wished he'd told his men to bring bayonets during the night fighting because of how close the enemy came to overrunning their position (they were practically in the same house on several occasions), and how close they came to running out of ammo.
Bayonets fall in the category of "You probably won't need it, but if you ever do, you will REALLY need it."
And next, someone behind a desk is going to say that duct tape is going to be obsolete in the 21st century !
British army fixed bayonets for company platoon section charges in the Falklands war, Scots Guards ,2 Para, in fact numerous bayonet charges seemed to have occurred from reading various personal accounts . Lt Dytor from Royal marines , sensing his platoon were starting to run out of ammunition when a stalemate had occurred during an assault against argentine Hill, stood up on his own with bayonet fixed , and charged up the hill screaming Zulu Zuu Zulu ! , inspired his platoon got up and followed . and in Iraq Afghanistan also on occasions
When there is hand to hand encounter, bayonet is the last to get enemy to ground instead of using more bullets.
But when people start getting sticked to death your enemy might just feel like running.
I heard using the bayonet is a good way to check if a dead body is still alive.
You’re missing the point. Most people are more scared of knives and they are of guns. The reason is most people have experienced the pain of being cut. But they haven’t experienced the pain of being shot. So they have a visceral fear reaction to seeing a bayonet. Psychological intimidation
Well I'm no expert but seems to me that you'll probably never use the bayonet, but if you do need it you really need it.
There was once a Marine unit who ran out amo while facing a numerically superior force that had plenty of amo.
They mounted bayonets and began to charge. That was sufficient to make the Africans turn and run.
As my SOI instructor put so eloquently, you may never need to use a bayonet, but having one lets the enemy know you're willing to take it to that level
Bayonet training is only partially about the physical training. It is more about instilling the aggressive spirit to the fight where and when needed.
The day my basic training company went through the bayonet course was the most poignant lesson in ecstaticism I’ve ever experienced.
He did it. He called it the pointy stick😂😁😁
Because at some point you run out of bullets. When you do you can't just yell at the enemy to stop fighting till you get a resupply.
Great vid! I still remember my course. Nothing unlocks the warrior spirit like the call to "fix bayonets" and picture yourself trusting it into the enemy, even if the enemy is just a tire lol.
While in the Canadian Army in the 1970s, I remember being trained on bayonet fighting with our FN C1s. Our instructor, a Sergeant who was a Korean War vet held up the bayonet and said that nobody really likes the thought of sticking this cold hard piece of steel into another man’s guts, except maybe for some psychopath. Just remember that the other guy has received the same sort of training as you did, and if you don’t kill him he’ll certainly kill you. So, you need to get over that apprehension by stabbing other things. We used hay bales, and later a pair of mechanic’s coveralls stuffed with hay. We never used tires, but that does seem to be a better and longer lasting target as the coverall dummy was unusable after about 30 guys went at it.
Well, it's a matter of opinion! I actually used mine in Grenada, glad I had it when my rifle jammed.💪👍
You killed using a bayonet??
The reason,they still use it,is because it's phycological warfare,while it's not very usefull in a fight,the enemy sees that knife and it instils fear in them,similar too a flaming arrow did in medieval times.
Modern bayonets are basically combat knives that can be stuck on a rifle as an added feature, knives will always be useful in combat because they always work they can kill when needed or be used for any number of different things. Also interesting point to note studies have shown that people are more intimidated and show more fear when confronted with someone carrying a rifle with affixed bayonet than no bayonet on the rifle.
Relatively few people have been shot...almost everyone has cut or stabbed themselves...you know the danger of a gun in your head, you know the danger of a knife in your gut.
in 1974 summer of, at Ft POKE LA.the drill SGT told us anytime they tell you to A-fix bayonets you're about to do something stupid .
there has been more use of bayonets the the two uses mentioned
Good old MCRD San Diego. .. pt. field next to the airport's runway!
Bayonets aren't just a backup. They're incredibly useful for "crowd control" confrontations during civil unrest when shooting would not be an option. As long as men fight each other, there will be instances in which they come face-to-face. And when they come face-to-face, "fix bayonets!"
The reason the bayonet is still around is for psychological reasons. You always have a way to defend yourself from the enemy if your weapon malfunctions or you run out of ammo.
Somewhat useful, sometimes somewhat useful is just what you need...
I thought we learned our lesson about eliminating our options! In Vietnam they built our jet fighters without machine guns. "We didn't need them anymore" BIG MISTAKE. They soon returned. Bayonets are a wonderful tool, its a multitool with many uses. "Its better to have one and never need it than to need one and not have it" Lets not learn the hard way again!!
In close combat using your bayonet is way faster than reloading.
I loved my bayonet and carried one always when I had a rifle.
I never had a bayonet jam on me....
I've had bayonets get jammed stuck into stuff, but I see your "point".
The older M-7 bayonet was a great bayo and not heavy to carry all the time. When they gave me the M-9, it was a cool looking knife but a pain in the ass to carry.
it’s less of a tactical thing of learning to use the bayonet, and more of a mental thing. having a platoon or a squad charge you with a bayonet screaming at the top of their lungs is way scarier than some guys shooting near you
the British bayonet charge resulting quite impressive, you still have the courage and discipline of waging a bayonet charge to win the battle. those part remain the same
When I was in service in the mid 80's they issued us the M7 bayonet for our rifles. I can tell you this from experience, if you ever want to be completely worn out tired, run the bayonet course..great work out lol. You start out on fire "KILL KILL KILL!" and are dragging ass near the end of it lol. I still have my M7 bayonet. Although it might not ever be used for it's original purpose I always found it really comforting to have it on my side anyway..kind of in the same way maybe carrying a good stick or club might be. Just extra insurance. I'll carry it hunting sometimes lol. Like the the guy in the vid says though , I eventually became an M203 Grenadier and couldn't mount the bayonet on my weapon anymore..but I still found all sorts of uses for it in the field anyway. I hope our military always continues to issue the bayonet to troops. Better to have a weapon and not need it than the other way around.
The modern army doesn't do bayonet training in basic, nor do they issue bayonets.
@@travelinman70 im not surprised given the current political climate.
@@travelinman70 Sad. RBFT taught me what my REAL JOB is in the Army.
I went to Parris Island in 1968. The bayonet & its
Use were taught & emphasised as the last ditch weapon ( an entrenching tool was also
An option!) Finally, The Corps combined the bayonet & the K-bar!! To
This day I still carry a bayonet/ K-bar when hunting, fishing, or around
The ranch. A fighting knife
Or both, or the combination
Of both ( now issued)
Seems as normal to put on as a pair of boots! Maybe I am Old Corps, but I had
Rather have " The blade"
With me in the case that I
Need it/ rather than need
It & not have it!
Does anyone remember, on national tv, Obama telling Romney that the military does not use bayonets anymore?
By then, the army at least didnt
@Walter Kaczmarek so true, I don’t even know how they’re seen as a political party anymore as so many of their policies and ideas are hell bent on destroying this country.
Why does the bayonet still exist in a short version:
Ran out of ammo? : bayonet
Enemy attack from 2 feet away: bayonet
Need to cut anything? : bayonet
Do you need to kill without mercy? : bayonet
We don't do this in the Army. When I was company armorer, my CO and I counted our bayonets, made sure it matched the number on his property books, placed them in tough box, wrapped two thick metal bands with clamps around the box, used 2 serialized military approved locks AND 2 serialized metal band seals just to ensure their was no tampering with his property. We thin typed a memorandum stating the total number of bayonets in the box, Commander signed it, and I taped memo to outside of tough box. Nobody touched them shits until 18 months later when we got a new CO and did it all over again.
Surprise, the US Army does not provide Bayonet training in Basic training nor do they issue Bayonets to solders.
Check your data and your video title for click bait.
sad that they stopped doing bayonet training.
Crowd control. Karan won't believe you will shoot until after she starts bleeding. The bayonet can be moved slowly forward and non-combatants will move back. In combat, carry 6 ounces more ammo or another battery instead.
Soldiers and Marines will always need knives to open care packages from home
My kid is in now 11B & I asked him about this a few weeks ago & he said they don't really teach much about bayonet fighting anymore, it's a damn shame.
When you find yourself from bootcamp last year on the intro
In a tight space you will be happy to have one and know how to use it. To many uses to mention, keep it sharp that is the most important part.
That’s my Platoon from boot camp in the beginning. Thats crazy, Fatal Fox
Correction: Why America's Marines Still Uses Bayonet?
Still use bayonets in the Army.
A GOOD BAYONET WILL KEEP YOU ALIVE , BETTER TO HAVE A BAYONET THAN NONE AT ALL! I CARRY BAYONET AND A K-BAR! RUN OUT OF AMMO , GET INO A TIGHT SPACE FIGHT MY B WILL SAVE YOUR 6.
There is just something about a long stick with a pointy, sharp thing attached to its head that instantly triggers an instinctual kind of "crap in your pants" terror in most people when see they're about to be on the receiving end of said long stick with the pointy sharp head.
I was in for 8 years (USAR 11B infantryman). The only time I ever used a bayonet was in basic. After that, nope. Sure we had knives but we put the bayonet into the conex box.
US Army basic training stopped teaching the bayonet years ago. Just as well since that was the only time in 5 years and two deployments that I was ever issued one.
The fact that they are pretty much multi-tools makes the whole "you may as well" argument stick really.
Trying to yell aggressively whilst wearing a mouth guard. 😁🇦🇺
1776: *Charges after firing 1 bullet with bayonet*
2030 WW3: *Charges with bayonet with M16s against 600 people with 7.62 rifles*
Most of these comment speak to the uselessness of a good blade. Total BS. As long as there are riflemen, there will be a need for bayonets. A Bayonet is for the unanticipated ‘not gonna happen’ event and is better to have than to not have.
We still have bayonets in active service in Denmark. It's a great weapon.
I believe a man with a rifle with a bayonet attached can stand against all predators on the earth.
As you speak of Marines using their bayonets you show us army soldiers
I’m korean who used to serve in ROK Marine corps, we also trained how to use bayonet but only in Boot camp. We don’t use bayonets in real combat these days.
During a exercise for active shooter I remember I yelled out fix bayonets and actually put one on my m4. And while I got laughs from the training NCO, I definitely got told never to actually use a bayonet again.
Unforgettable words still taught in Army basic training at Fort Bragg: 'What is the spirit of the bayonet? To kill!'
1 Bayonets have the second lowest failure rate of all weapons. The lowest rate of failure has been Atomic Bombs.
2 when dealing with rioters or POWs a bayonet is the perfect weapon for obtaining compliance without resorting to lethal force.
3 When I was training Recruits we also had Pugil Sticks to augment Bayonet training. They were the best combination for approximating the mental state of true, personal combat. When under fire for the first time the new soldiers were less likely to freeze or cower because they had previously been through the same stress and it was familiar to them.
In Phil. Marine Recon, they have "Barong" a 22 inch one sided bladed sword. It is useful for hand to hand combat. It can stab ,cut,slash and beheaded enemy combatants. Gruesome but deadly effective.
I carried my bayonet in Iraq, and one is still attatched to my gear as a civilian.