The Swedish 1851 M Kammerlader rifle - History and modern time shooting
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2022
- The chamber loading system was an early variant of the capping or percussion breech loading guns. The Norwegian and Swedish Kammerlader rifles were ones from the very first models to be accepted by an army. Here is the story of the Swedish Kammerlader.
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I really like how this design actually makes it practical to shoot and reload from the prone.
Not to mention horseback..
probably not harder than other rifles of that era.
@@Bobanbobic Reloading a springfield musket is really hard in prone
@@w0t3rdog This gun is way too fiddly to reload on horseback. There were plenty of similar breech loading weapons made for that reason. This gun is clearly for shooting long ranges quickly and with a good seal.
I find it amazing that this loading mechanism never caught on among other armies outside of Scandanavia. It seems so simple yet effective and seems not to compromise accuracy for rate of fire to any measurable degree.
I know right its way less hassle just gotta count your shots excessive fouling after awhile acts as a barrel obstruction id figure it need a wad cleaning after so many shots but even only adding that its higly effective at throwing lead rapidly compared. be fun to hunt with for sure
The American Army issued M1819 Hall rifle used the same loading system and was converted to cap firing in the 1830’s.
It was a top hammer having originally been a flintlock.
The Hall did not use a camming mechanism to get a better seal. They used thin sheet metal to protect the stock at the front of the chamber. Stupidly enough, the last model (Hall-North) made for the US military was a smooth bore, the earlier versions were rifled. Responsible for an early civil war scandal, they were declared obsolete and sold 5,000 off for $3.50 each, then in the arms panic the US bought them back for $22 each. The .52 caliber barrel was rifled and the chamber was bored out to accept a .58 caliber projectile (yes, chamber only was increased, not bore size), but that work apparently only cost $0.75 per gun.
@@robertlewis8295 The Hall had two slightly angled replaceable recoil lugs that (if properly adjusted) pushed the breech and action together for a metal on metal seal. A couple of centuries wear and tear impede its sealing however in most surviving examples.
The horned helmet design of old must have turned them off from any war equipment designs coming from the region.
That has to be the best black powder rifle of its day. Has anyone ever made a reproduction of that one? It would be on my list if it was available. Such an interesting rifle, fast and efficient to load and shoot. Thank you for giving us a closeup look.
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i feel sorry for the man.
Your face when the cap failed - I laughed so much at that! I've been there, m8. Absolutely love your content! Thank you for showing the REAL shooting experience - the way it should be.
I've gone from seeing this channel as source of entertainment, to a valuable resource for preserving the usage of historical firearms (while still being wildly entertaining!). Thank you for all that you do and I can't wait for the next video!
Completely agree, his stuff on the Dreyse and the Lorenz is excellent 👍
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I really like this rifle. The loading mechanism is unique and easier compared to a traditional muzzleloading one.
"We love everything made of wood, and metal..."
Amen.
I can imagine you as a magician who shows amazing and incredible things ! As you show us amazing and unique and historical firearms ❤love from India brother..🙏
I wished the Kammerlader style came earlier in the flintlock age. I think it would work really well and better than a lot of other breechloader flintlocks.
You just made this swede very happy with this! Your rifle is in stunning condition by the way, congratulations on that.
Aww.....yes...... 11:29
That looks like one of my expressions when the cap goes snap without the satisfaction of the boom.....😃
Geat video and excellent information
I absolutely love this channel!! Especially when it comes to how you go about doing your reloads. It really helps me and I'm sure countless others who love reloading. It sets me in the right direction and also how to do it! Especially when it comes to old black powder brass cartridges.
A gun almost never, ever seen here in the US. It would be something to show up to a black powder military match here with one of those.
I just did the 2022 Cabin Fever challenge using mine. I did not do so well 😜
I enjoyed the demonstration of this firearm as well as the history of its creation. The pictures that you provided to help describe certain aspects were also appreciated.
Thanks for a great bit of history and information on this ignition system and on the rifle.The extra powder tightened the group a lot.Thanks for sharing from Australia
This is now my favorite non-metalic cartridge breach loading mechanism. Utterly brilliant. It must have been quite expensive in it's day because of the precise machining required from what was shown of the mechanism.
In addition to BlokeOnTheRange's video on the Kammerlader, there's also Mark Novak's videos on bringing a derelict one back to life. The two videos - iirc it's one for the stock and one for the metal work - amply illustrate the kind of cracking you can find on badly worn examples.
I love all these old guns. Thank you so much for putting videos like these on here.
Amazing. I have never seen anything like that in my 50 years as a firearm enthusiast.
Great video as always. You make creating the cartridge look easy. It takes skill.
Compared to the British Enfield or the US early model muzzle loading rifles, this gun has the potential of a fire rate of at least twice as many rounds per minute. Plus, this gun can be reloaded from prone, which makes it a stellar weapon for use in the new environment of very accurate shoulder arms fired from defensive concealment. The camming system used to move the chamber into the breech to get a good gas seal, along with the hidden hammer and cap placement makes this a great weapon for its time.
With hollow based conical bullets (minie balls), this rifle would have been a winner in the US Civil War, had anyone over here known about it and had it been produced in numbers for export.
I've been waiting for a good video featuring the Kammerlader, thanks!
Wow, amazing rifle. Great job presenting the history, a mad minute and disassembly.
Boy, that's really an interesting rifle and breech system! My interests have tended to go earlier and earlier. I haven't reached a matchlock yet, but that rifle could definitely change my interest direction. Thanks for something really new to me.
What a amazing rifle and video. Thank you so much. These rifle makes my Gewerh 98 a youth rifle, as your Kammerlader are 66 years older.
I thought that was a repro at first, that gun was insanely well kept for being 180 years old.
great video about a great Rifle.
I saw many other channels where they always complained about the gas sealing, and that it was not very well designed.
When I see your shooting, it looks almost perfect 👍👍
Thanks for another guns history lesson, wrapped in good entertainment
Super cool black powder rifle!! I am surprised it was not used all over around the world.. I have been fascinated by percussion weapons for a few years but only now came across this beauty
thank you for your great presentation .I love old black powder guns .They have an amazing history
I'm amazed that such a beautifully ingenious system was not more widely adopted. Way ahead of its time. Lovely rifle.
Amazing, i have never seen anything like this, love the channel
Oh I see! ...I'm not a shooter so I was curious about that white 'blinker' you were wearing , then I noticed it allowed you to keep both eyes open while firing. You learn something new every day. Wonderful looking rifle, I was trying to work out what Britain was using by comparison in the 1850s [Pattern 1853 Enfield muzzle-loader] and wonder how the Kammerlader compared to the American Hall breech loader? Excellent video (as usual). Thank you.
paper cartridges are very elegant, and setting aside one Saturday of the week to fire a weapon like that seems to be very good ❤
All of your videos are superb as well as extremely interesting.
What an amazing firearm! I Love the art, design and craftsmanship of antique guns and weapons. When you think of the tools and machines used then that required great skill I’m always impressed. Thank You Kindly and keep your powder shooting so we can enjoy and learn more! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
I have never seen or heard about this method of loading, especially surprised the design/principle already dates back to medieval times!
Wonderful. I love seeing the different ways in which the same problems were overcome.
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Seriously one thinks he is loaded, or Europe is a blackpowder gold mine.
Another excellent video revue, your rifle is in pristine condition.
Love these videos all ways interesting to learn about the development of different weapons through history 👏
Wow! What an amazing mechanism. Ive never seen this style before.
You bring us the coolest stuff 😎
Now that is cool! I just noticed that the lever must be on a cam that moves the loaded tube forward in the chamber to provide a better seal, brilliant! Ty C&B!
Kammerlader. 😊
You showed great poise and hit a good shot while being flanked by an enemy at the end there. Nice job soldier
Very cool design! Most impressive for that time period. Thanks for sharing.
As always an excellent video.Wonder information and demonstration. Thank you
Fabulous rifle. And great video as always!!
That's a cool rifle, I know nothing about black powder guns, my knowledge stops at the start of rimfire, but I'm amazed how clever this is!
The idea of a breech loader may not seem like a big deal to us modern people but back then in an area where brass cartridges were yet a thing, a breech loader opens up a whole new world of combat positioning with little to no weird compromises.
very good video you are to be congratulated for keeping the story alive.
The beauty and craftsmanship on that is astonishing
This is probably the first very well suceed attempt of making a more pratical reload system before cartridge implementation. Very nice shape gun. Cheers!
Fantastic video, highly informative as well as intresting !
Great video! I dident know about this intresting rifle, thank you
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Beautiful! It is never too late to learn something new.
Held that 4th shot to long I reacon, what a cool piece of history how fun, and very little smoke from that powder
My favourite gun channel of UA-cam!
Another great video. Thanks! 👍🏻👍🏻
I am Norwegian and it is cool to see a Norwegian designed rifle, it isn’t often.
This is greatly superior than the Springfields and Enfield's that we fought the American Civil War with.
Very interesting and well made video! Thumbs up!
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Thank you for this nice, interesting video!
I saw the Norwegians demonstrate their kammerladers years ago, they used the spitzer like the ones for the pillar breech guns
Thanks for the video. I just wanted to ask when u would do a video on the almighty Blunderbuss.
If somebody lends me one, I will make one. :)
Indeed the Kammerlader patent is an excellent example of superb gun smithing.
"Love everything wood and metal, and comes from Sweden". Growing up in the 1960s, I'm well aware of futuristic (non-plastic) furniture from Scandinavia, that became very popular at that time, both in Europe and America.
Wonderful information and presentation.
beautiful rifle. thanks for the video
Ah, Kammerlader story told in exquisite hunglish, love it! :D
Lovely looking and accurate gun, quick to load as well.
I was worried this wouldn’t come. This is one beautiful rifle and I need one before I die
Beautiful piece by the way. I would be proud to own one.
I've been looking forward to this video since you first announced you had gotten yourself a kammarladdningsgevär m/1851. And as always I found it to be a great video! Well done! I can absolutely understand why it was the Swedish navy that adopted it. I rifle like this must have been ALOT handier to use from the confined spaces on a ship than a standard muzzle loader. Especially for those serving on the smaller coastal vessels meant to defend the different Swedish archipelagos. Many of these were small but crowded gun, bomb and mortar sloops or galleys amongst others. But even on the larger ships breach loaders like this must have been extremely handy for men stationed in the crows nests to snipe at the decks of enemy ships.
A question from Germany: Kammerladdningsgevär is clearly Kammerladungsgewehr in german. Is ,gevär' in military context a battlerifle in contrast to a carbine? In german civilian context ,Gewehr' is the umbrella term for rifle, shotgun and combination gun.
@@brittakriep2938 Gevär means all Two-handed firearms with a long barrel.
@@91rumpnisse : I did my question, because in german weapon terminology, you have to know if military or civilian context is meant, because Gewehr doesn' t mean exactly the same. And : A Seitengewehr is a bayonnet. One of the polearms used in 18th century by infantry officers on foot is in german called ,Kurzgewehr' and in old texts before 1800 it is often unklear, which kind of weapon is meant with ,Gewehr'. Next to my homevillage is a town, which was fortfied until about 1830s. But the gate guards had been mostly allways no soldiers, only citizens who had do do this duty ( everyone for a short time). Some years ago, in a newspaper article you could read, about 1760 from those citizens who had to do this, two of three had their own Gewehr. But had they a Gewehr in modern sense, or was in the old document meant, two of three men had a weapon ( and the poor ones not?). When a german word starts with Ge it means ,a lot of', for example Gesang- a lot of singing, Geschrei- a lot of shouting and so Gewehr - a lot of defence ( sich wehren- to defend yourself/ die Wehr - the weapon).
@@brittakriep2938 Not sure if i fully understand what you are trying to say, but the word "Gevär" is a loanword from German. It got introduced in the 1500s, and it originally had a broader meaning, example it could mean "to arm yourself" or it could be any weapon. But in the 1600s, it came to just mean "Rifle", and pretty much does so even now. We do have compound variations on the word, like Hunting Rifle = Jaktgevär, Sniper Rifle = Prickskyttgevär, Machine Gun = Kulsprutegevär. I don't think the word is used for anything other than just "Rifle".
@@91rumpnisse : I am german, and was not sure if in swedish language Gevär is used in the same way as german Gewehr, because there are sometimes socalled ,false friends'. Now i know, that both the words are used the same way. Sorry, i didn' t wanted to confuse you.
i really need one of these in my life! its so cool, in every way!
Cool video, I've never seen one of those before !
Beautiful, I was lucky enough to shoot a Norwegian one at a military black powder shoot in Tennessee last year.
That mis-fire face was hilarious
Thanks man for vid.. so what a heavy barrel.. what the nice gun.. soft voice..👍
A mechanical wonder so well done! Kind Thanks for sharing this Lovely rifle! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
I would love to get one of these for my collection. I love these sorts strange and different rifles.
Subtle flex with Whitworth bullets sitting to the side as he wraps the paper cartridges lol
Funny thing about that: the later M1860 versions of the Kammerlader used smallbore Whitworth Rifled barrels. Thanks to these, they won first and second place in an 1861 military rifle competition held in Belgium: they were hitting the target at 1000m.
Thanks for the shout out! Do you by any chance have any more dimensions of the Swedish bullet available?
Interesting rifle. Excellent condition too. Never saw a design quite like that before. Or maybe it's a little different because it is the first of it's kind. Seems simple and straightforward, not bad to load and seems pretty stout as well.
That is just an awesome rifle. Amazing design.
She is a Beauty! Wow that's NICE! Fast and easy to load. Cuts a ragged hole there too.
Excellent video about a very interesting rifle.
Excellent, once again!
The Lyman powder flask came. Pretty nice. Had gun out cleaned sites
What a beautiful and interesting design
That is really nice , probably my favorite bp single barrel that I have seen to date. I can see it being a joy to hunt with , the protected nipple will stay dry with less effort in nasty weather . I do think the paper or skin cartridge is giving a slightly inconsistent bullet presentation when loaded. Maybe add a parallel knot to even out that slight interference on the bullet . The devil is in the details they say.
Very nice rifle and good shooting
ANOTHER DAM GOOD VID MAN
First time I see this kind of rifle! A very modern one for mid-nineteenth century.
That is such a cool loading system.
Funny 5 minutes ago I was content...... now I have a new obsession... thanks a lot 😃.... I love sweden
Damn, this beauty looks like new. Love your video. Greetings from Poland.
Such a beautiful rifle! I want to see you use it in "combat" conditions, running and advancing or retreating from a target or targets.
This is from those times the troops marched at each other and shot when they were close, no hiding or running.
Great Channel! Tank you!
Bravo.......it's easy when they arnt shooting at u ........hats off to the guys who had to fight with cap and ball.....clever gun.......cheers
l just can't get over how very well that gun is made, it is amazing🤩👀....Thanks very much 👍...Shoe🇺🇸 Nice shooting...
Great video thank you 👍