I’m simply amazed with your art ! I’m a new calligrapher and started engraving bottles since 2022 , seeing your videos I can see how much studies and practice I’ll definitely need on a daily basis ☺️ thanks for sharing! Your channel became my favorite 🤩
Fantastic work. Adding a little angle sometimes helps with the uniformity of the letters. You can see it in Leonard and Rachael. Leonard just looks sharpers. But that’s just me commenting as a calligrapher. You make it look easy and I am sure that is tons of practice.
Thanks for your message, practice comes in @ about 52 years, engraving is very similar to engraving as you deduced, so i recon you'd master cutting metal with ease, give it a try, regards steve
Gday Stevo, absolutely amazing how all the fonts look, a lot of skill required mate, I was wondering when this series started what happens when a mistake is made and now I know, very clever cover up, I’d say that the whole item would have pretty scrolls on it if I was doing the job, great video and throughly enjoyed the lesson, Cheers
Yeah Matty, we have to provide solutions to stuff ups ... if the fault is due to the engraver's mistake then we are oblicated to replace or restore the item but if the customer's fault is theirs then we offer the cover up trick and i've seen plenty of items with the good ol' scroll cover up come into my shop, usually perpetual trophies, good observation, cheers
My, that was Precious! ;-P I'll have to watch this 15 times to get the nuances of hand movements and slight change in grippage, then practice for days or a month. Your customization of the Old English was a thing to behold being done and easy to read...Bonus! Not my favorite font but could be after watching you do it. Love that you added the Whooops fixes! My calligraphy font was similar to Alex Brush and Allura for long pieces (Midsummer Nights Dream act5 scene1), but did some vertical stuff in more a roman w/wo serifs - drafting style. Still love my Rotring art pens and mixed my own color inks back then when rocks were formed. Thank You Steve for creating this great content!! Truly appreciate learning something new!
Haha thanks pj, just realized i could have done gag about that creepy pointed eared thing, umm, gollum? So precious. I begged mum in about '70 for a rotring rapidograph, finally got one, yaayy, they were the bees knees in drawing pens & can still get them, hmm, shall i?
@@stevohdee8118 I have fun in my head...he he! I have a couple of the rapidographs somewhere in my old drafting stuff I used on Bristol board. I bought their "Art Pens" 1.1, 1.5, 1.9, & EF for the calligraphy, smooth as silk. Still available (Amazon) but pricey beggars now, sitting on a gold mine. ;-D If you get them get the refillable cartridges.
Thanks for sharing your first work...Now I am not so intimidated...I tried doing steel with a diamond bit (carbide has not arrived yet) Seems like I have to go slower with steel and diamond...One problem I have...Now that I have my handpiece modified, with a bearing right under the collet nut, it heats up. Uncomortable after a few minutes. sigh.
Gday hans, how unfortunate about yr bearing, splash out, get micromotor & all will be fine. I dont have any probs with diamond on steel as there is almost no resistance like a toothed burr, blame yr equipment haha, go modern mate
Sure, if you are new at the craft i recommend accurate marking out & some practice on some scrap using the smallest inverted cone burr, 006, which is .6mm
Haha, yep been tempted sometimes but resisted, my goal has always to have a happy customer no matter what they presented me with, its called tact i think, i want them to come back with their $, good comment, thanks
I applaud your steadiness! Most people would have failed to control the spin about a dozen times in the first few letters and winged the bit off across the piece leaving hideous deep scars you won't get rid of... Are you using a round bur or a 45 degree Hart bur? Your terminology is a bit incorrect. Chisel is done completely by hand with a chasing hammer and a sharp chisel/graver. Hand push engraving is done with gravers mounted in a small wooden or plastic handle and has no machine or hammer assistance whatsoever, just your own hand strength. Machine engraving is done by hand but with a pneumatic machine to help push the graver through the metal, or by a rotary tool such as it appears you are doing here, or cheap vibratory engraver tool people often use to put identification numbers on their personal items in case of theft. Machine engraving is also done by an actual very expensive machine you mount the piece into and program the design into the machine with a laptop, push the start button and walk away and let it do all the work. Although those are getting cheaper all the time, but even the expensive ones leave a very shallow impression. Can't be antiqued. Teaching myself to do hand push. No machines. No electricity. Trying to honor and retain a lost art form before everyone forgets how it was done.
Thanks for your comment and insight to terminology. When i started as a lad 50 years ago there was machine engraving (a hanging dental motor with a flexible cable), hand engraving (what you call hand push) and pantograph (a huge unit where letter fonts were slide onto a table). It is interesting how terminologies change over the decades to accomodate modern methods and devices. When the gravermax pneumatic machines hit the market we still called it hand engraving. I suppose also that some regions of the world would use different terms similar to language variations and dialect. We are both right and wrong depending on where we live and experience. Best regards in your endeavor to keep yet another old trade / skill from disappearing, all the best, cheers
I can certainly identify with your view on 'hand push' gravers, especially with the air systems costing at least several thousand USD with no reduction of the sale prices. Technical advancement is not help here, still expensive. Used air systems are at least 50% of prices for new. I have used flex shaft, micromotor, panto systems past 50 years. Now making my own gravers and chisels --and this is a high challenge process--. All dependable 'air systems' are highly cost prohibitive for budget range learners. good luck with your push process.
Blimey that was well worth a watch! Beautiful work mate! I feel a massive engraving video binge coming on this weekend 👍
I’m simply amazed with your art ! I’m a new calligrapher and started engraving bottles since 2022 , seeing your videos I can see how much studies and practice I’ll definitely need on a daily basis ☺️ thanks for sharing! Your channel became my favorite 🤩
Thankyou for your nice comment, appreciated, cheers stevoh
Fantastic work. Adding a little angle sometimes helps with the uniformity of the letters. You can see it in Leonard and Rachael. Leonard just looks sharpers. But that’s just me commenting as a calligrapher. You make it look easy and I am sure that is tons of practice.
Thanks for your message, practice comes in @ about 52 years, engraving is very similar to engraving as you deduced, so i recon you'd master cutting metal with ease, give it a try, regards steve
Thanks for the video. It was very well done, especially the combination of grinder and graver.
Thanks
Gday Stevo, absolutely amazing how all the fonts look, a lot of skill required mate, I was wondering when this series started what happens when a mistake is made and now I know, very clever cover up, I’d say that the whole item would have pretty scrolls on it if I was doing the job, great video and throughly enjoyed the lesson, Cheers
Yeah Matty, we have to provide solutions to stuff ups ... if the fault is due to the engraver's mistake then we are oblicated to replace or restore the item but if the customer's fault is theirs then we offer the cover up trick and i've seen plenty of items with the good ol' scroll cover up come into my shop, usually perpetual trophies, good observation, cheers
Really enjoying this series. Glad we got our "pretty" for the week. :)Thank you.
Haha, thanks bruce
Howdy Stevodee,
Amazing engraving, beautiful styles. Your a true craftsman.
Thanks michael, appreciate your comment, cheers
This was fantastic.
Thank you for the years of experience you just shared with us!
Thankyou for your comment, cheers
Absolutely Fascinating…… so much to learn. Thank you 👍👍😎👍👍
Cool, thanks joel
My, that was Precious! ;-P I'll have to watch this 15 times to get the nuances of hand movements and slight change in grippage, then practice for days or a month. Your customization of the Old English was a thing to behold being done and easy to read...Bonus! Not my favorite font but could be after watching you do it. Love that you added the Whooops fixes! My calligraphy font was similar to Alex Brush and Allura for long pieces (Midsummer Nights Dream act5 scene1), but did some vertical stuff in more a roman w/wo serifs - drafting style. Still love my Rotring art pens and mixed my own color inks back then when rocks were formed. Thank You Steve for creating this great content!! Truly appreciate learning something new!
Haha thanks pj, just realized i could have done gag about that creepy pointed eared thing, umm, gollum? So precious. I begged mum in about '70 for a rotring rapidograph, finally got one, yaayy, they were the bees knees in drawing pens & can still get them, hmm, shall i?
@@stevohdee8118 I have fun in my head...he he! I have a couple of the rapidographs somewhere in my old drafting stuff I used on Bristol board. I bought their "Art Pens" 1.1, 1.5, 1.9, & EF for the calligraphy, smooth as silk. Still available (Amazon) but pricey beggars now, sitting on a gold mine. ;-D If you get them get the refillable cartridges.
Great confident cutting.
😮wow
Thanks for sharing your first work...Now I am not so intimidated...I tried doing steel with a diamond bit (carbide has not arrived yet) Seems like I have to go slower with steel and diamond...One problem I have...Now that I have my handpiece modified, with a bearing right under the collet nut, it heats up. Uncomortable after a few minutes. sigh.
Gday hans, how unfortunate about yr bearing, splash out, get micromotor & all will be fine. I dont have any probs with diamond on steel as there is almost no resistance like a toothed burr, blame yr equipment haha, go modern mate
May I ask uou a question? Is there enough room for Jonathan in a 1 X 5/16" aluminium substrate? Thank You.
Sure, if you are new at the craft i recommend accurate marking out & some practice on some scrap using the smallest inverted cone burr, 006, which is .6mm
@@stevohdee8118 thank you my good Sir.
@@stevohdee8118 thank you
That catch of the mistake is classy!
Were you ever tempted to hide a tiny dig against a particularly "interesting" customer somewhere in a fancy font?
Haha, yep been tempted sometimes but resisted, my goal has always to have a happy customer no matter what they presented me with, its called tact i think, i want them to come back with their $, good comment, thanks
@@stevohdee8118 Respect to you! Upside-down mirror Elvin, anyone? 🤔
I applaud your steadiness! Most people would have failed to control the spin about a dozen times in the first few letters and winged the bit off across the piece leaving hideous deep scars you won't get rid of... Are you using a round bur or a 45 degree Hart bur?
Your terminology is a bit incorrect. Chisel is done completely by hand with a chasing hammer and a sharp chisel/graver. Hand push engraving is done with gravers mounted in a small wooden or plastic handle and has no machine or hammer assistance whatsoever, just your own hand strength.
Machine engraving is done by hand but with a pneumatic machine to help push the graver through the metal, or by a rotary tool such as it appears you are doing here, or cheap vibratory engraver tool people often use to put identification numbers on their personal items in case of theft.
Machine engraving is also done by an actual very expensive machine you mount the piece into and program the design into the machine with a laptop, push the start button and walk away and let it do all the work. Although those are getting cheaper all the time, but even the expensive ones leave a very shallow impression. Can't be antiqued.
Teaching myself to do hand push. No machines. No electricity. Trying to honor and retain a lost art form before everyone forgets how it was done.
Thanks for your comment and insight to terminology. When i started as a lad 50 years ago there was machine engraving (a hanging dental motor with a flexible cable), hand engraving (what you call hand push) and pantograph (a huge unit where letter fonts were slide onto a table).
It is interesting how terminologies change over the decades to accomodate modern methods and devices. When the gravermax pneumatic machines hit the market we still called it hand engraving.
I suppose also that some regions of the world would use different terms similar to language variations and dialect. We are both right and wrong depending on where we live and experience.
Best regards in your endeavor to keep yet another old trade / skill from disappearing, all the best, cheers
I can certainly identify with your view on 'hand push' gravers, especially with the air systems costing at least several thousand USD with no reduction of the sale prices. Technical advancement is not help here, still expensive.
Used air systems are at least 50% of prices for new.
I have used flex shaft, micromotor, panto systems past 50 years.
Now making my own gravers and chisels --and this is a high challenge process--.
All dependable 'air systems' are highly cost prohibitive for budget range learners. good luck with your push process.
Romans go home?
Haha yeah...dam right