Is Wordpress a Smart Choice in 2021?
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2021
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I started my role as a software engineer for Automattic in 2021. I used to be the young developer who thought WordPress and PHP were old-hat, getting pushed out by younger, better technologies. But after 18 years in the industry I recognize that even though WordPress isn't hip any more, it brings so much value to business that it's completely indispensable as a tool for doing business. PHP has become a very elegant and useful programming language. Just an FYI, even though WordPress is build on PHP, we use a whole lot of different technologies at Automattic. There's something for everyone.
Do you recommend it for production sir ?
Yup and a lot of people don't know you can use Wordpress for the backend by utilizing the Wordpress REST API and custom end points and use React, NextJS, Microsoft Blazer, Android Apps, IOS Apps and the list continues for the front end.
WordPress has just reached 40% of the internet. So it's still growing.
Where did you get that statistic from, if you don't mind me asking?
@@charlie-george I replied to you with a link, but I guess UA-cam didn't accept it. Anyway, just Bing or Google "WordPress 40%" and you'll see the articles.
@@norayr3975 Okay cheers mate.
@@norayr3975 YT for some reason has gotten very strict on links. If you link to anything that's not another YT video 99% of the time your post will be deleted now.
It's great for entrepreneurs who need to focus on factors other than simply web developing, it makes everything easier so why not!
Sorry about the bg hiss ... I will be fixing this.
It's less about "is {tech} dying", and more about "is {tech} losing significant relevancy in the field I want to work in, for the types of companies I want to work for".
Hi Stef, I don't know if you heard on the news, but Shopify laid off 10% of their staff. Just out of curiosity what is your opinion on how this will affect WordPress and PHP development? Also, wasn't it about a couple of weeks ago that Facebook and some other companies placed a hiring freeze and wasn't there a massive lay off as well when this freeze had occurred? How does this effect aspiring Software Developers in finding a job or even starting their own freelance work?
Webflow is becoming very popular-specially for designers-yet there are still limitations to its 'real-world' use, especially with e-commerce, email, & forms integration. There are many visual user-interface plugins that integrate well with Wordpress today, one popular one being Elementor. Plus Wordpress itself is slowly improving its built-in visual post/page-building interface.
Hi Stefan, I learn a lot from your videos. Thanks for making new content! On “ WEB HOST PAYS FOR YOUR WEB DESIGN TRAINING”. By standard web hosting; which InMotion plan are you referring to, 1 year at: Deal $2.49, Lite $4.99 or Power $6.99?
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I was so worried when I opened this video because I recently made my website using Wordpress. Then I saw this video and sir, thank you. Thank you so so much for reassuring this confused, anxious potato.
me too ;-)
Great content as always. What brand Grape juice do you drink sir?
I ordered the Wordpress website,my website is like an eBay,people can add their products to sell,is Wordpress a good choice?
I don’t want to face the problem with the speed of my site
Thank you, nice video!
Wise words, as usual. Thank you !
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a conflict. I’m new to coding and getting addicted to it. I started learning because I am building a website for my classes in a completely different field of study. The website I need will have a secure login for students, course enrollment and possibly a subscription section for the media content. I’ve felt that when I tried WordPress years ago that it wasn’t customizable to my web design vision. However, now that I am working on coding, my web dev friend is telling me to abandon coding and do WordPress instead. But I don’t really want to stop coding. Any advice?
If you're building a course, you could use a learning management system instead of a content management system. Also, WordPress still have some coding to it.
Stop coding. As a website owner, your time should be spend on your visitors, content and business. Go coding if you want to build, sell and maintain a product. I'm a website owner and now moving away from coding because there's so much out of the box nowadays to build a site.
@@peak196 Exactly. There's too much to manage on a successful website/app and getting bogged down in the coding. You have to decide if you want to be a tech entrepreneur or a software engineer. Once something hits a certain scale, it becomes very hard to do both.
@@peak196 It hurts me to say, I agree. Lol. I love to code as well, but when you're beginning to be a one (wo)man team, moving away from coding is necessary. I'm learning Wordpress because I know nothing about security and it's easier for me to use plugins than to keep trying to learn every moving piece of what's needed to build a full-fledged web application.
Very helpful. Thanks
Being a 152-year-old developer (not as old as Stefan), I was interested in coming up to speed on the state of the web design industry after being out-of-touch with it for years. I discovered this is the work flow that is making money for some non-coding designers: Adobe XD to design the site, Elementor (new tool to me) to translate the UX/UI into Wordpress, and Siteground as the best Wordpress-hosting site (much better than doing it yourself for security and maintenance reasons).
What is your review on site ground haven’t used it but wanted to try it for my next client?
Have not used it yet but using it for upcoming learning project. I’m accustomed to hosting my own web apps on Linode, AWS etc. but for Wordpress I think I will try out having someone else maintain the servers for me. Will update when I can.
What do you mean by 152 year old? What are you all basing your age on? I’m outta the loop. 😆
This is a very common flow, with a wide cost range ($500-$10000+) as well as a wide quality range.
As a dev, specifically a WordPress dev, I see it all. Personally, I think a lot of clients are taken advantage of by this. Some prefer the lower cost and don't care, but time and time again I see a pricier site built with Elementor and a budget host and think immediately that the client was scammed.
Sadly, the market is filled with this, due to clients not knowing much and the low learning curve of such tools. Realistically, if a client is paying above $3-8k the site should be built correctly, especially so that they can budget towards marketing and not be limited by the site.
Elementor is doing great things for quick and easy sites, but anything beyond that and its flaws start showing, as well as the knowledge level of who was building the site. It also is a large security concern, as more plugins are used and often incorrectly matched. Specifically, several Elementor addon plugins were compromised within the last 2 years.
@@ErickFtw Since there hasn't been an update, I've worked with most major managed WP hosts, here are some thoughts:
Siteground:
Solid, they provide a decently maintained server side caching plugin. Their renewal price is a bit high for their quality, but a good choice anyway. Excellent customer service and an easy go-to for clients.
Kinsta / WPengine:
The best full-fledged managed hosts I've used. I trust Kinsta more than another other managed host to keep up on performance and security, as well as a lot of extras you just don't see as often. Pricey though.
Cloudways / RunCloud:
Best for cost to performance ratio, run on whatever sever company you'd prefer, handles the server stack, maintenance, security, and performance. Less consumer friendly, though, but sleek enough.
There are countless others that are good, even Bluehost has stepped up their game, despite being a very budget host. Or, something niche like Pantheon. I prefer looking at what tech they are using, and how hands on the client will be.
Currently experimenting with Wordpress API to integrate blog into HTML site
Was the WPForms bit an undisclosed ad?
Dude, wordpress is Insane right now and on its peak! I dont know when Wordpress will have a solid implementation with React as Headless what will happen! My guess wordpress in the next years will take over the mid small projects that are the most common
I love Wordpress! But I've been doing only PHP and Wordpress for 10 years and feel very stagnant and extremely burnt out! That unfortunately resulted to me getting fired last 2019. I took a long break after that but just recently started to look for other techs to learn. What do you recommend should I learn in 2021? I've been trying to get into React.js/React native but the prerequisites are too many and are too confusing for me to actually start a real project.
I think react is confusing. I would go for angular for front-end. As you may know PHP backend, go for Laravel. It will create a good match (angular + laravel)
u r right, my man!
@Peter Mortensen About asking the question "if the wordpress ...?" and that Wordpress is alive and kicking.
Wordpress ecosystem size makes itself irreplaceable together with the majority of web and marketing agencies using it when creating products.
Wordpress reputation has outgrown it's usability. The reason a lot of businesses choose it, is that they believe they can get a working webpage for 400-500 USD. The sad thing with WP is that they can, but after a year or two they need to add some fixes, and the page needs updates. This goes one of two ways - they hire a high level professional that spends the required 50-100 hours updating plugins, theme and core, then reapplying code that allows the theme to style updated plugins properly. Possibly removing bugs that infected the site. With 25 USD/h this rounds up to 2500 usd easilly and does not even include the new features that the business want's. An alternative is paying some of the self proclaimed "WP specialist" couple hundreds to somehow add the new features without fixing anything. After a few such hotfixes the site is not ranking on google, falls apart on couple of subpages and it's generally a mess. This is a scenario I face almost everyday. A lot of clients come to us with issues on their WP pages after few years of neglect and they are very surprised by the costs of repairs.
I don't believe that WP is bad, although a major rewrite of plugin and theme code separation is well overdue, but the reason businesses choose it, it's because they think it's cheap. It's not. The jumble of code changes done to plugins and themes make it a very difficult framework to work with. Keeping it performant and safe requires quite a bit of maintanance efforts throughout the year. If you're not spending more on your WP website than you would on WIX - you'll feel the burn once you need an update or a fix.
Also once a developer learns enough PHP to see the difference in the way the code is managed in i.e. Laravel vs Wordpress - they will quickly drop the latter. Finding senior level PHP programmers (5+ working with code, not clicking through plugins) willing to work with Wordpress is very close to impossible. There are few, and they are not cheap (which I applaud, good work should equal good salary).
Also, since we're global-remote now - there are a lot of Wordpress "programmers" willing to work for 10-15 USD / h. Yes their work is not always the best, but they will be your competition and it's on you to explain to a client why you should be paid more.
So there you have it - there's a major dissonance between clients' expectations and technical/financial reality of Wordpress and I believe it's a major issue.
by that time, the 500 USD startup became millionaire and can afford to pay 2500 for the fix.
Or why not, a brand new wordpress website for another 500 USD that last for two years more.
I recently learned express.js but wordpress has more market in my area than node. I really enjoy express and did not liked php. So im conflicted
If you get good job in node do it!
Don't need to move to wordpress. Infact wordpress is just drag & drop stuff, not real software programming.
If you can learn wordpress it will be a plus to work freelance when you have time!
@@abidtaqi3842 thanks for the advice
@@dineshghantasala128 Welcome!
I don't understand, if it's so helpful why would job opportunities with JS would be ~1700 vs only 60 for Wordpress (at least in my country)
All hail to the LAMP stack 🙌🏿🌟
Great video with supporting data and examples. The evil developer in me wants to push the lies I know to be flat-out false now about PHP and WordPress so there is more opportunity for people who know better. "Everyone needs to focus on Svelte and Deno JS because PHP is dead!"
Lol
So the video starts off with a plug for wordpress forms? That's cool...
What about webflow replacing wordpress?
webflow is super expensive, and you can't deploy it where you want. I tried working with it 2 years ago (so that's a long time ago I know they improved), I did two small client projects and never went back. Sometimes it's just faster to code
Your ad tells that you screwed by wp.
I spend a lot of time to learn html/css and still I am less good then wordpress developers.... so what the point to learn html and css.. I don't understand.
Wordpress themes are created with HTML and CSS of course, so understand how they are built, so you can build and modify themes, is a great skill to have. If you add PHP, you will be KING of Code ... in the WP world.
Wordpress is a beast, so easy and user friendly web developer tool, some say 'you don't know how to code if you use wordpress' not true, I could still do backend programming on it, insert some custom html or php codes and let's not forget the plug-ins and themes. You could really create and develop some series applications.
Damn right!
lmao , u are not a developer
Regarding the internet .. if it not pron chances are high its wordpress
The thing I don't like is being dependent on an outside entity for web development. This defeats the whole point of open-source. Learn to code and you know it all. You don't have to rely on outside resources.
Great point. Frameworks and CMS come and go, wax and wane (Ruby on Rails or Drupal). It's why people who chase frameworks and CMS often make short term gains but longer-term at a much higher risk of being obsolete. It's better to have a strong knowledge of JS instead of just relying on a JS framework, for example.
It takes so much server resources though.
Rasmus Lerdorf, the creator of PHP, said he thought his creation was a crude hack that would be replaced in six months.
He was half right.
Wordpress has so much competition. There are over 400 different content management system vendors and more on the way.
Wordpress dwarf all of them.
If u are the king of the hill u can only roll down.. or stay up
Wp is like a doctor prescribing medicine that doesn't fix the issue, just the symptoms. The patient doesn't know that this is bad so they think the doctor is helping them, when in reality, the doctor is just keeping themselves in business.
Or maybe you just don’t understand the market.
@@michakrawczyk4917 or maybe you arent doing the best thing for your clients. shame on you.
Critical error and website down
Headless WP looks promising, blazing fast loading times, native front-end UX clients will love.
Second (first time I did this though)
@Peter Mortensen Actually yes, but what's it to you?
Just because WordPress isn’t dying, doesn’t mean it should be alive lol the company I work for still uses it but it’s a pain. It’s really only alive because clients need a robust interface to manage content. If not for that, I can’t think why else you’d use it. The plugins too but half the time they cause more issues than their worth. I actually don’t mind PHP though.
@Peter Mortensen compared to developing a website with nextjs or any other modern framework, wordpress just isn’t a good developer experience. Wordpress is nice for the client, but annoying for devs. Unless of course you dedicate your career to being a Wordpress dev, but that’s not my goal.
Is making a living off Wordpress plugins realistic ?
Hmm ... could be done, but like any software business that relies on residuals, it will be harder to get up and running vs say, freelancing.
@@StefanMischook thanks for info will keep in mind
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wordpress has and will continue to dominate the internet with highest number of sites .
it probably will die due to inability to adapt to web3
first
@Peter Mortensen sorry shouldn't had of said that big boy peter is here
!yesItisDying lol
third
WordPress is garbage but will not die because it is a big industry behind.
Also it is easy to find a developer to create or administrate a WordPress website.
I hate WordPress because it is a truck built on a motorcycle engine.
And take all the juice out from the webdev industry, because no coding required. Anyone can do it, so it is cheap.
i work on a client site whivh just the db reached to 11 gb with hundreds or orders , so it's truck in and outside perhps you didn't give the suitable time that you give for a nother tecknology , annnnnd wordpress is like any other frawork that need to code not only depend on plugins to do evey small taks that's the trick
I wish it was dying..but alas wordpress will be around for the foreseeable future. PHP is just the worst..
No it's not, but not for the technology per sé, wordpress works are paid peanuts.
maybe other technologies are too expensive? Who needs a simple website that costs $2500?
COBOL is dying
A very long a slow process ... LOL!
There are so many bad wordpress developers out there. Why would you put yourself in the same boat. CMS's are designed for those who can't code. Usually anyone who uses wordpress, I largely identify as someone who can't design or code a thing.