Renegade V8 Boxster S Review
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Renegade Hybrids video review of the Boxster S V8... No script, no pro camerawork, no savvy editor, and certainly no terrific talent, BUT this video is full of great info and some fun examples of performance for people looking for an alternative engine for their Boxster!
This is the video that got me hooked on this Renegade hybrid LS conversion!
Thanks Scott!
Synthetic Oil Protection good luck
0-60 3.3 secs, that said im willing to bet a far Far quicker time with proper tires.
Yes, the roof still works completely. The engine cover still clears all but a little bit. It's very clean and functional.
This is so amazingly awesome even in 2021 definitely super car territory the 986 only weighs around 2800 lbs ish much respect on the build beautiful beautiful car cheers 🍻
Thank you... I am listening to what people would like to see and hear!!!
Changing plugs is easy. There is tons of room on the sides of the engine. You can see the ground on both sides past the engine.
Thank you so much for your kind reply . I have a lot going on in my life right now , However I am thinking about installing a L.S. in a boxster some day .. Thanks again ..
3.8 seconds ish to 60.? Holy crap... with wheel spin. theoretically I imagine mid 3s is doable. This has confirmed that I want to K series my miata, and save the LS for a platform that can really make better use of it! Plus, the swap is actually cheaper into a boxster... including the car, since you can reuse most of the FANTASTIC porsche components.
Yes... Thanks for asking. We use the stock Boxster S transaxle!
Scott long time no talk, great video on the Boxster V8!
Definitely one of the best promo vids I have seen. I would have like to see more ext rolling shots and also comparison with other sports cars
Overall A-.
When you have a video crew of ONE...that also doubles as the driver, narrator, writer, editor, camera person, etc., this is about as good as it gets. LOL. Thanks very much for the compliment. You have no idea how much that helps! You never know how your information is being received in this sort of situation.
Absolutely. It will blow your mind!
Let me make this a little more clear...sorry. The engine cover has a small modification that does not get in the way of the convertible top. The engine cover still installs in the same location using the stock hasps that hold it in place. I think that clears it up a little better!!!
Just found your vids. Man, love what you have done to this Boxster.
Glad you dig it. Thanks Brian. Since that video, we have done a TON more with Boxsters both 986 and 987, as well as the 911's, both 996 and 997. We even do Caymans too. Thanks again for your comment!
This is on my bucket list with a Countach rebody.
The first video had a typo that was drawn to my attention after the fact. Just couldn't let it ride.
We have done the conversion to the first gen Boxster S, but I don't see why the later Boxster S would be a problem. No Tips or PDK's, Six speeds only. Thanks for asking.
RenegadeHybrids can I ask why no PDK’s? Is it software related? Hmmm maybe I should do some hacking
I'd really like to know where I can get a Boxster S with no engine for $2000
+Gavin S It has happened more than you can imagine. Just keep looking and make friends with your local Porsche independent repair shop. That's where the deals happen!
With a good engine around 5000.. With a blown engine, around 2500
www.salvageautosauction.com/models/group/Salvage-PORSCHE-BOXSTER-for-Sale
Make sure it's a Boxster S.
RenegadeHybrids why is that?
No automatics (tiptronic) cars. Sorry.
+RenegadeHybrids good
+Mike G AGREED LOL
Do you still do this kind of work…and is possible to make one 600 horse power but automatic?
Glad I found this so now I can drive my 02 boxster till it breaks cuz I'll be ecstatic to throw a V8 in for 5 gs
Sounds great Brent!!!
I want one a wide body kit with some wide tires would look cool I think
This guy is COOL. He tells it like it really is. Thanks.
Thats a sweet conversion man! Did u guys ever use a regular 5.3 or 6.0 lsx? Since those are way cheaper and more common
ivorton23 Any of the LS based blocks will work!!! Thanks!
I'd love to see you guys make step-by-step video tutorials of adapting the LS to the Boxster S transaxle.
Wouldn't it be a little foolish for a business to have a step by step tutorial on how people can build their own parts and bypass us all together? Then, when their efforts don't work, we get blamed. We'd like to stay in business another 40 years if that's ok with you!
@@RenegadeHybrids I think you misunderstood me. I meant a tutorial for how to install your kits. You've mentioned previously that you can ship the kits out to people.
@NemuiJin OH gotcha! We've done that with several other of our models, like the 914 and 944. Not quite a step by step, but certainly a good lengthy overview. Might do one for the Boxster eventually.
@NemuiJin Believe me when I say, some people get pissed at us when we refuse to give them our engineering schematics. They threaten to write up bad reviews, excoriate us on the Internet, and shame us to all who will listen just to get our designs. We've never given in, and most threats go silent, but those that do manage to punch at the air seem to show up in some awkward places, including here on UA-cam. The few that have copied our parts either get it wrong and have multiple failures we seem to get blamed for, or cut corners that lead to catastrophic failures (that we also get blamed for). 40 years...and we've managed to keep going quite nicely! Thank you for your interest in Renegade!
Did you happen to measure the front/rear weight distribution after the swap? Awesome job anyways.
Super cool, you should get a racelogic vbox so you can show us the GPS accurate times, they're just a few hundred bucks for a good one.
What transmission are you working with? The stock one? How hard was the fabrication (if it's stock) to get the porsche bellhousing to mate with the LS?
That is totally awesome! What years of the Boxster S can you do the swap with the LS7?
All 986S and 987S models!
@@RenegadeHybrids Cool thank you! And you are about 15 months out?
@@BloodySoup74 At the moment, 20 months. However, just buy a kit and find a local shop that will take it on. We work with other shops all the time!
@@RenegadeHybrids Dang. Busy shop you have. I'll say congrats. That says a lot. You've been doing great work. I'll check shop's in my area. Thanks so much!
@BloodySoup74 Some say, it's a good problem to have. I think all of us at the shop enjoy this enough to want to do EVERY car! Obviously, that'll never happen, but do dig the results!
Great vid, it looks like a blast to drive. And I still might keep my 951 around for a LSx conversion (will need to keep the A/C).
Will a LS376/525 6.2L LS3 Engine work for this conversion?
Yes, thanks for asking! Any LS based engine will work with the Boxster S conversion!
Toss the keys to anyone? LOl you'd have to kill me for the keys!
I look forward to it!
I know this old vid but after swap does it still handle the same as stock.? Can you track this car? Or just straight speed..
I Own a Boxster s 02 & have a shop with a very very good fab guy on as part owner, I have to have this. was going to trade mine for a zo6 now just going to build this, best of a vette & a Boxster only better. & ac to boot. hell yes no brainer.
Excellent, Scott- well done! Saving up now :-)
Thats great info ! Thanks for the channel !
You are most welcome!
Have you ever put a Boxster on a Dino? Are getting 500 hop?
Yes. They handle 500hp from the LS all day!
I own an 06 Cayman s that my old hot-rodding dad has kinda fallen in love with. Now he's considering a cheap boxster and an LS conversion.... problem is he really wants an automatic...... think that old tiptronic would hold up? Any other options?
cool stuff . Could you please tell is the trans up to the task ? How does the box compare with the strength of a 911 box ? thanks .
You have to do a review like this on the 996 - and compare the c4 to c2
Does a conversion kit come with a case of adult diapers for when the new owner (and their passenger) craps their pants? WANT.
Good video .. How about a update ? It has been all most 2 years .. How is the trans and other parts doing ? How many miles has been put on the boxster ? Thanks
Bryan
After driving this LS7 for a bit, the customer went even bigger with a new LS7 and I seem to remember a discussion of E85. Not sure. At this point, he has lost touch with us. I think I will reach out and see what's up. Thanks!
+RenegadeHybrids I thought you/Steve said this was your wife's car?
+Anon Doe No, the silver one in the other videos.
Does the engine still sit low enough to use the roof automatically?
Why did you delete your previous video & upload it again!?
0-60 in 4.01 and 4.40. Not bad-
Hi cool stuff . Can a 2 gen car be used ?And what about a PDK trans ? Thanks . Bryan
I have a new life goal 😮
When i get a 964, we will be meeting. :)
have you guys done this on a cayman? If yes, how loud is the cabin noise without the covers and are there anyway to drastically reduce engine cabin noise?
ozerinx we have done lots of Cayman's and the cabin noise can be made to sound similar to stock. It all depends on the engine and the exhaust system you choose.
Been trying to get an answer for this question... can a v8 be put in on the auto transmission
In a 928, yes. That's the only auto we do.
Best video yet more detailed review and get to hear car not music
Do you do conversions for mercedes w126 chassis?
can u still change the spark plugs?
Thanks for the info . .
Awesome!
Let's say I'm planning on already upgrading the suspension, wheels, etc. Should I still try to find a cheap S or get the cheaper base model?
Just like Scott says, if you wish to find a Boxster S six speed transaxle, shifter, axles, subs, hubs, hub carriers, brakes front and rear, suspension complete, etc., then I guess it would be worth it. You can get an S model for about $2000 more than a base model. I just don't see how you could do all of this to the base model for less than $2000.
it needs a turbo! nice work renegadehybrids.
Do you do the conversion yourselves are do you only provide kits for conversion?
We do both! Give us a call when you have a moment!
How much is a conversion if I supply the car with a non-running factory engine? (IMS failure find I'm assuming)
+Cars Guns and Guitars Give the guys at the shop a call. Thanks for asking!
why not put a twin turbo 3.9 in there?
And parts are a lot more accessible for that engine
Heck ya!
how does that pass emissions controls ?..here in NY they plug the car into the state computer system... even with dealer plates it still has to get inspected
+eric wsmith Great question! There are LS engines that are 50 state smog legal. They are called E-Rod LS3's. They have an OBD2 connector that allows the ref to plug into the car and test the emissions. Also, there are Federal certifications and documentation that goes along with the engine showing it's compliance. Keep in mind, this E-Rod is still 430HP and it's a wonderful engine!
Hi, I’m genuinely very interested in this. However… I’m in the UK. Could I ask if you offer to ship the complete kit including absolutely everything I would need to carry out this conversion?
Many thanks
Absolutely, we ship worldwide! Please call or email us so we can start discussing all that you'd like to order. Thank you!
@@RenegadeHybrids thanks for the reply. Great! Thank you. Can I have your email address please?
@@toyotawagons4584 info@renegadehybrids.com and thanks again!
If I do a swap do I still have to worry about the IMS bearing issues? I don’t think I should but I’m not well informed with car knowledge.
Not at all. The LS engines do not have IMS issues. They are extremely reliable!
No IMS in an LS!
What exhaust and muffler are you using? Stock? or modified?
We built a rather simple exhaust system that used a crossover pipe and two Magnaflow mufflers. It sounded really nice!
I own a 2001 Boxster S, and would be very interested in a LS 3 conversion.
How much would it cost me to do the job myself ,with Renegade instructions?
Probably between $5 and $8K. Call the shop when you have a chance. Thanks.
RenegadeHybrids Plus the cost of the LS3, correct? Ironically, it seems as if factory sells the brand new LS3 cheaper than some of the junkyards!
will this work on a 987 Boxter ? (S?)
Is chassis twist an issue with the extra torque ?
any 1/4 mile numbers ?
+rishi kataria Thanks for asking! Give Steve and Scott a call at the shop. Good luck!
What is the cost???
What transmission do you use? Is it hard to adapt the transmission? Thanks!
We use the Boxster S 6 speed transaxle! It's not hard when you use our conversion kit!
So if you have a 2.5 then you will also need the S model transmission, right?
Will this work with the Tiptronic?
No, sorry.
Is this car all wheel drive or rear wheel drive?
+Richard Race It's a Boxster and they came in rear wheel drive only!
What would it take to retain hydraulic steering?
Fee Nicks it is hydraulic! Just an electic pump, not belt driven. It's quite nice!
0-60 mph in under 4 seconds #iWant
I have a 2007 cayman S is there anyway a LS3 with a Magnuson supercharger fit?
Why not just do an LS7 and get the some HP without the weight or the space issues that the super charger will consume. To answer your question, if it's a race car and interior is not a concern, it might be doable.
so this kit will only pair up to a 6 speed from a boxster s?
Correct...
@@RenegadeHybrids just out of curiosity and a temptation to blow up my 5 speed, would it be possible to even get that kit to mate up? Stock boxster, with ample funding behind the project.
@@robertescalante9858 Unfortunately, no. Sorry.
when i come out for sema i want to see the car
Now looking for a new engine ls1 do? For 986 about price ??
You are welcome to see our prices on our web site. Please go to www.renegadehybrids.com and take a look. Thank you!
4 seconds actually ... but nice car :D
no
How much did it cost to swap in an LS engine
There are so many variables. Just give us a call and we'd be happy to discuss this further with you. Thanks for asking!
@@RenegadeHybrids I was just curious I wouldnt want to waste your time. Unless it was important. I have a 2011 Camaro 2SS. So I wouldn't actually be doing it. Unless I hit the lottery. LOL
@@ProwlersPit It's not a waste at all. You may not be able to do the conversion today, but you could be a customer in the future. Since we've been around for so long, we often get the call that starts out like this. "I still have that edition of Hot VW Magazine from the 80's when I first learned about you guys!" Ultimately, that 'dreamer' became a customer. So few companies can say they've been around for almost two generations...especially in this industry. So, welcome to the family and keep dreamin'! We look forward to talking with you in the near future!!! (-:
do you transplant 5.3 vortech , into this cars
As long as it's the same series as the LS, then yes. The truck intake a pan will not work, but you can swap the LS1 fuel injection system onto the 5.3 if you can find one.
Do you do them with automatics?
There’s a CA smog legal LS3 crate engine with EO #
For an OBD2 car, the Erod is not recognized unfortunately. However, there are 18 counties in CA. that do not require emissions testing if you happen to live in one of those!
Thank you sir...good to know.
How much for the conversion??
Thanks for asking. All of the prices for the various conversion kits and options, are available on our web site at renegadehybrids.com. Thanks again for asking.
600hp you're only 91 hp less then the current fastest stock production 911 gt rs
what's the price in that car ???
+muca220 Sorry, it's not for sale. Call the guys at Renegade. They have another one for sale right now!
Do you guys still do Porsche 944 v8 projects ?
Absolutely. Still our biggest seller! Just an amazing kit when it's done!
That is awesome. By the time i have the money to do that conversion, i hope you guys are still around! About how much more or less would something like that cost me on a 944?
Bansheeflyr There are many variables. For the kit costs, please refer to the price lists on our web site. OR...just give us a call!!! Thanks again...
Awesome man thanks for the response.
Using a new LS3.
Will it work with the Auto tran's ?
No, sorry.
@@RenegadeHybrids Is it because it can't or just not tryed ? Size? Or that Kennedy does not make a adaptor ? Thanks for the help.
@@Lotus7AZ Several reasons. First...the "automatics" are computer controlled and take multiple inputs from the engine to determine shifting and torque converter status. Secondly, the strength of the automatics is marginal at best, so the V8 would likely do damage. Third...the torque converter and torque vectoring of the stock transaxle is set to a MUCH lower overall torque value at idle and at lower RPM's that even if you were to get the computers to talk to each other, the shift points and stall speed vectoring would be completely wrong and make the car basically undriveable. Lastly, the gear ratios are rather short for the V8 which would not be that rewarding on long drives. So, in a nut shell, regardless of who might or might not make an adapter, it's not likely going to be a good conversion anyway after solving all the issues along the journey.
@@RenegadeHybrids Thanks.
how much is the swap?
There are many conversions to choose from with lots of options. Please visit the web site for more details or give the folks at Renegade a call. Thanks!
Will these pass California smog?
I hate to say it, but no...unless you can register it in one of a few counties that do not require smog in California. There are some in both Northern and Southern California. I don't know which ones, but I have customers that have located friends with remote places in the Sierras, in the Northern Coastal Redwoods, and in the deserts that have registered their cars there and have no emissions testing. The screwy thing is, a 430HP LS3 ERod V8 from GM Performance burns cleaner than a 2005 Toyota Prius. So, if you install an ERod in your 2000 Boxster S, you will be cleaning the air...BUT...it's not legal. Hence one of the biggest reasons why we left the state. Thanks for asking...and if you have any additional questions, please give us a call.
RenegadeHybrids That's too bad... California is kooky.
RenegadeHybrids You can register that car here in Florida. I'll bet if it's running cats, it's clean enough for 49 states.
WHAT an upgrade for what was a glorified Volkswagen !!
... the 914 was the glorified (and excellent) VW... the Boxster is an amazing modern mid engined platform that was neutered by Porsche.
All due respect ..they are all volkswagons to me .....
Steffano Ducati
OK good for you. Thanks for sharing.....but they still aren't
Steffano Ducati Mr Porsche designed the VW. I love mine. Very reliable
I own a 911, GTI, and TT. HUGE differences between the three. Each has its own place, but there is not much comparing the Porsche to the VW. Same between the TT and the VW, not quite in the same field. Now that's not to say the VW isn't fast, hell, you can make a faster Vega, but at the end of the day each car has its place in the world.
Great car, loved my 2002 3.2 s Tip until IMS failure destroyed engine last year with only 28k miles, TOTALLY GUTTED:o( My fault, should have taken note of all the warnings. Buy one but get the later more reliable bearing fitted asap, best £1k you'll ever spend. Got 2010 987.2 s pdk now but still would have been more than happy with the 986 s.......
"stinkin quick"
Can you make it pass CA smog?
Only in the 18 counties in California that do not test for emissions.
@@RenegadeHybrids I guess I’ll have to buy a house there! 🤣
@@HellaRandomVideos Lol...or find a friend! Wink wink!
@@RenegadeHybrids I just did a drive with Allen! Your first Cayman conversion here in Sacramento! Small world. 😅 Incredible work! Maybe someday 😊
Just turbo the boxster 3.2 engine and you will all the HP you need.
...And horrible reliability.
those kits run closer to 10k, the LS and kit is maybe $3500, a body for a boxster is 2500-3500 and a cayman is 5k. So for the price of your turbo kit you have this setup.... Now that being said, I have no idea how drivable this would be.
With an LS7, it's not too much heavier. It's a chick car, but that sucks in the ricers. The LSX's all weigh about the same (425lbs), if you're going to do this, get the LS7. Then go beat the shit out of GT-R's
who does conversions in california
We are in Vegas and that's not very far away!
If it’s a 1998 then it’s not a boxster s
Yes. The 98 was only built as the 5 speed non-S edition.