I knew that I had a black ancestor since I was a little girl. But, I learned about my native American ancestry when I was 15, nut my mother didn't want me to tell anyone. It wasn't toll years later that I understood why. My mother was born in 1910, and that was the year the last slave ship departed from the US with Native Americans. She was afraid. I knew about the former slave because I found out her name in the family bible. Her name was Mehitable. I learned years later that she came from Ghana because I have a hole on my ear. That is the only place that birthmark comes from. I have always been proud of my ancestry, because they are within me, and, because of them I am who I am, and I am glad, I inherited the traits that I have to go forward in my life, even when things were hard. S .
We need to take everything out, and say sorry to our ancesters, it would be a way to acept that we abuse them, and we must feel guilty for what our ancertas did. It is not only America, Europeans stated the abuses with Africas and they keep silent. Spanish , French, English Portuguis Belgun, on and on are resposible for all this suffering, we must say sorry to Africas and look after them by apreciate and treating them well.
That's correct. Sally's mother and grandmother was mixed. Sally's great grand mother was purchased of gifted to the Hemings. Every female she birthed was raped by men of the Hemings family which created a lineage of white house slaves. Jefferson credited himself for producing 4% to 10% of new slaves produced annually. He didn't just impregnate the girls in his home, he impregnated the ones in the field too.
Martinez you being Mexican should know that one drop makes anyone black by default. Does not matter what you look like. Blacks come in at 100 colors or shades of the rainbow.
Passing Yes, it meant other things. My great grandfather claimed to be 100% Dutch. Through genealogy/ancesty.com I discovered he was half Irish through his father and one fourth dutch and one fourth British through his mother. American people hated the Irish in the late 1800's they were the hated immigrants of that time. I compare them to how many American people feel about Mexicans today Ironically though he married a first generation Irish American girl whose parents immigrated from Ireland in the 1860's. so even thoguh he denied his Irish heritage he married an Irish girl.
Even if you want to say it’s alleged what can’t be denied is that slaveowners had sexual relations with the slaves and because of the power dynamics these relationships could absolutely in no way be called truly consensual. You can not own your companion and feel that what you are dealing with is a relationship of equals. Maybe rightfully so, this nation ended up paying dearly for this indiscretion.
People should have DNA test. Many people have different racial backgrounds. Many Woman were raped horrible but I believe Sally looked more white and always lived with the Jefferson children. Many females were married at the age of 14, 15 years old. Loved this mixed family. Look how they call each other family. 😊
I agree, both black & white people supposedly hear past down stories they all need Dna tests personally to prove it 100% bc over the years there could of been infidelity within the lines over the years..
Psalm 83 King James Version (KJV) 83 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. 2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: #TheyKnowWhoWeAre Native American Indians Gen 49:19 Tribe of GAD #DaughterOfZion
Who on this site should judge. Many girls were married young. People did not live that long. Signs of the times. Sally was suppose to look like Jefferson’s wife Martha. Half sisters. He promised his first wife he would never marry. I think he feel in love with Sally. What life could a slave have at that time. Married or sold and her children sold. The fact that her children could pass for white makes total sense. Many slaves were mixed of course they were raped by their owners. Horrible fact of life. One of their children had red hair just like his father Thomas. Many mixed couples today. Being of color was very hard for many people in America, it still has it’s problems. Sally could of stayed in France with her brother. Sally was betrayed and spoke of as a beautiful young girl in France. She had her freedom there. Why go back to become a slave again. Was Sally in love?
Of course Sally thought she was in love with Massa!!! But after his death Sally wasn't even worth his milk cow!!!! And she was listed among his possessions!!! That's what chattel slavery was all about!!!
Sally Hemings children's hair was red, blond, and a brown. Her hair was long and black. I believe four of her children had red hair while the rest had blond and about one had brown hair. What a combination.
I don't know if Sally Hemings was "in love" while in Paris as she contemplated staying in Paris. Thomas Jefferson persuaded her to go back to Virginia promising to free any children including the one she was carrying when they reached the age of 21. According to her son Madison his mother probably thought it best to go back to America so that her expected child would be cared for by Jefferson. I think it is very conceivable that Sally did fall in love with her captor as the relationship continued. Fascinating story.
Jefferson Davis the President of the Confederacy was married to a mixed race woman and his children were Afro American. Abraham Lincoln was also mixed race Afro American.
It’s funny, they’re ALL on the Thomas Jefferson side. There is no Jefferson side and Hemings side. And since Sally was the half sister of Martha, Thomas’s wife, they’re doubly related.
Sally wasn't treated like a sister or sister in law. Thomas Jefferson used her, just like his Father in law used her grandmother, Elizabeth Hemings. Thomas Jefferson could have remarried, and had more children by another wife.
After you get to an 1/16, of anything you are what you are. It just seems like there are way too many people who are very black, that are supposably descendants of Sally Hemming, coming out of the woodwork. Sally's children, were 1/8, her great grandchildren, if her children married white were 1/4, and great, great 1/32, so the black, is from her children's and great grandchildren, spouses side not directly from her. Do we now how many of Sally's children, married black men or back woman?? How many married white men or white woman ? That would tell you in reality where the black came from but not from Sally.
Madison married a mixed-race woman. It seems that some of the family wanted to stay within the black community. But Harriet, Beverly, and Eston merged into the white community.
Madison identified himself and his family as black on the same census that his brother identified himself and family as white, I believe. I believe Eston also married a free woman from Virginia before he moved away but maybe she was as light and white as he was. I can see why some people would feel safer passing and I can see why many would not want to give up their identity. I would suppose that I would hope that I looked enough like one side or another to not have to answer stupid questions all of the time or be in danger.
@@carynmaher5406 in the end madison was the only one who identified as black. eston did for a while but eventually decided it was best to move away from virginia and begin passing as white. Only 1 in 4 of the children stayed in the black community
Please consider a re-do of this interview and for goodness sake have the lady in the red jacket remove those clunky noisy earrings. HUGE distraction and disrespect for Mr. LaNier as well as Interviewer.
"It's fact." No it's not. It's a controversy. It's still debatable. It is not fact. Not yet. Say what you will but you cannot say with absolute certainty he had children with Sally Hemings. No one can.
DNA evidence has shown that a Jefferson (either Thomas or his brother) was the father of these children. The nephew, Peter Carr, has been excluded. Also, research shows that Thomas Jefferson was in residence during the time of the conception of each of Sally Hemmings' children, and his brother was not. Seems like a slam dunk to me.
Beautiful and incredible unity of family. 🙏🏼
No, it's the story of rape, chattel slavery, and abuse. Jefferson was a monster.
Thomas would be proud of Shannon...he's adorable and all of his relatives...
I knew that I had a black ancestor since I was a little girl. But, I learned about my native American ancestry when I was 15, nut my mother didn't want me to tell anyone. It wasn't toll years later that I understood why. My mother was born in 1910, and that was the year the last slave ship departed from the US with Native Americans. She was afraid. I knew about the former slave because I found out her name in the family bible. Her name was Mehitable. I learned years later that she came from Ghana because I have a hole on my ear. That is the only place that birthmark comes from. I have always been proud of my ancestry, because they are within me, and, because of them I am who I am, and I am glad, I inherited the traits that I have to go forward in my life, even when things were hard.
S
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I love Sally, courageous & kept going. She was a slave. Beautiful lady
it is not Jefferson and Hemings families, it is those from first and second wives because they are all Jefferson
I was interested in learning more about the story.
Can you imagine how many 1/2 trumps out there we don’t know about ?
I'm sorry; Shannon LaNier looks like pictures I have seen of Thomas Jefferson.
AGREED
Shannon is very handsome. 😁 Not sure about Jefferson.
Very good looking man..
Its still confusing if you dont know all the descendants since sally and thomas relationship 😑😑😑😑
We need to take everything out, and say sorry to our ancesters, it would be a way to acept that we abuse them, and we must feel guilty for what our ancertas did. It is not only America, Europeans stated the abuses with Africas and they keep silent. Spanish , French, English Portuguis Belgun, on and on are resposible for all this suffering, we must say sorry to Africas and look after them by apreciate and treating them well.
Such negativity on here. They are family, what's would be the point of keeping the hate going.
Sally hemings was more white (3/4) than African (1/4) and she was also his sister in law...she was his wife's half sister.
That's correct. Sally's mother and grandmother was mixed. Sally's great grand mother was purchased of gifted to the Hemings. Every female she birthed was raped by men of the Hemings family which created a lineage of white house slaves. Jefferson credited himself for producing 4% to 10% of new slaves produced annually. He didn't just impregnate the girls in his home, he impregnated the ones in the field too.
Martinez you being Mexican should know that one drop makes anyone black by default. Does not matter what you look like. Blacks come in at 100 colors or shades of the rainbow.
I descend from Katherine Royall Perrin
Passing Yes, it meant other things. My great grandfather claimed to be 100% Dutch. Through genealogy/ancesty.com I discovered he was half Irish through his father and one fourth dutch and one fourth British through his mother. American people hated the Irish in the late 1800's they were the hated immigrants of that time. I compare them to how many American people feel about Mexicans today Ironically though he married a first generation Irish American girl whose parents immigrated from Ireland in the 1860's. so even thoguh he denied his Irish heritage he married an Irish girl.
Passing, like being in the closet as a gay person, self-sabotages the soul.
Any of them related to Lionel Jefferson? Or Weasie?
Love it, "melting pot of beautiful people". ♥
Even if you want to say it’s alleged what can’t be denied is that slaveowners had sexual relations with the slaves and because of the power dynamics these relationships could absolutely in no way be called truly consensual. You can not own your companion and feel that what you are dealing with is a relationship of equals. Maybe rightfully so, this nation ended up paying dearly for this indiscretion.
People should have DNA test. Many people have different racial backgrounds. Many Woman were raped horrible but I believe Sally looked more white and always lived with the Jefferson children. Many females were married at the age of 14, 15 years old. Loved this mixed family. Look how they call each other family. 😊
I agree, both black & white people supposedly hear past down stories they all need Dna tests personally to prove it 100% bc over the years there could of been infidelity within the lines over the years..
wouldn't surprise me the founder of the democratic party. ask strom thurmond's family about his hidden black daughter that came out after his death
LOL. And you think that the intellectual forbears of the Republican party didn't have them as well?
Psalm 83 King James Version (KJV)
83 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
#TheyKnowWhoWeAre
Native American Indians Gen 49:19 Tribe of GAD
#DaughterOfZion
Jefferson reminds of r Kelly
Tell that to Donald Trump!
Who on this site should judge. Many girls were married young. People did not live that long. Signs of the times. Sally was suppose to look like Jefferson’s wife Martha. Half sisters. He promised his first wife he would never marry. I think he feel in love with Sally. What life could a slave have at that time. Married or sold and her children sold. The fact that her children could pass for white makes total sense. Many slaves were mixed of course they were raped by their owners. Horrible fact of life. One of their children had red hair just like his father Thomas. Many mixed couples today. Being of color was very hard for many people in America, it still has it’s problems. Sally could of stayed in France with her brother. Sally was betrayed and spoke of as a beautiful young girl in France. She had her freedom there. Why go back to become a slave again. Was Sally in love?
Of course Sally thought she was in love with Massa!!! But after his death Sally wasn't even worth his milk cow!!!! And she was listed among his possessions!!! That's what chattel slavery was all about!!!
Sally Hemings children's hair was red, blond, and a brown. Her hair was long and black. I believe four of her children had red hair while the rest had blond and about one had brown hair. What a combination.
I don't know if Sally Hemings was "in love" while in Paris as she contemplated staying in Paris. Thomas Jefferson persuaded her to go back to Virginia promising to free any children including the one she was carrying when they reached the age of 21. According to her son Madison his mother probably thought it best to go back to America so that her expected child would be cared for by Jefferson. I think it is very conceivable that Sally did fall in love with her captor as the relationship continued. Fascinating story.
Jefferson Davis the President of the Confederacy was married to a mixed race woman and his children were Afro American. Abraham Lincoln was also mixed race Afro American.
It’s funny, they’re ALL on the Thomas Jefferson side. There is no Jefferson side and Hemings side. And since Sally was the half sister of Martha, Thomas’s wife, they’re doubly related.
Sally wasn't treated like a sister or sister in law. Thomas Jefferson used her, just like his Father in law used her grandmother, Elizabeth Hemings. Thomas Jefferson could have remarried, and had more children by another wife.
Why should you accept that rapist ?
After you get to an 1/16, of anything you are what you are. It just seems like there are way too many people who are very black, that are supposably descendants of Sally Hemming, coming out of the woodwork. Sally's children, were 1/8, her great grandchildren, if her children married white were 1/4, and great, great 1/32, so the black, is from her children's and great grandchildren, spouses side not directly from her. Do we now how many of Sally's children, married black men or back woman?? How many married white men or white woman ? That would tell you in reality where the black came from but not from Sally.
Madison married a mixed-race woman. It seems that some of the family wanted to stay within the black community. But Harriet, Beverly, and Eston merged into the white community.
Madison identified himself and his family as black on the same census that his brother identified himself and family as white, I believe. I believe Eston also married a free woman from Virginia before he moved away but maybe she was as light and white as he was. I can see why some people would feel safer passing and I can see why many would not want to give up their identity. I would suppose that I would hope that I looked enough like one side or another to not have to answer stupid questions all of the time or be in danger.
@@carynmaher5406 in the end madison was the only one who identified as black. eston did for a while but eventually decided it was best to move away from virginia and begin passing as white. Only 1 in 4 of the children stayed in the black community
The further you go back, you're going to find some ugliness. There are no perfect people.
Disgusted
Please consider a re-do of this interview and for goodness sake have the lady in the red jacket remove those clunky noisy earrings. HUGE distraction and disrespect for Mr. LaNier as well as Interviewer.
"It's fact." No it's not. It's a controversy. It's still debatable. It is not fact. Not yet. Say what you will but you cannot say with absolute certainty he had children with Sally Hemings. No one can.
Ellen Howard give it up, DNA has already proven it!
Gail Becker It's proven AAA Jefferson did it. Not THE Jefferson. There's a 12.5% chance he was the father.
DNA evidence has shown that a Jefferson (either Thomas or his brother) was the father of these children. The nephew, Peter Carr, has been excluded. Also, research shows that Thomas Jefferson was in residence during the time of the conception of each of Sally Hemmings' children, and his brother was not. Seems like a slam dunk to me.
He most likely he was the dad
it was proven that only one of Sally's kids belonged to TJ
This bored the shit out of me !