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  • Tank Chats playlist • Tank Chats from The Ta... David Willey, Tank Museum Curator, presents a Tank Chat on the Sherman Grizzly.
    This version of the Sherman is built in Canada from October 1943. After the fall of France, the Canadians began making their own vehicles, beginning with the Ram tank based on the M3 Lee chassis before moving onto a modified M4 Sherman. Only about 180 were produced.
    This vehicle is currently on loan to the Heeresgeschichtliches Museum Wien.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 398

  • @MilitaryHistoryVisualized
    @MilitaryHistoryVisualized 5 років тому +610

    "Most armored vehicles don't like being outside..." well, I know that feeling.

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 5 років тому +455

    The Tank Museum is lucky to have two very distinguished presentators in David Willey and David Fletcher:
    It's a joy to listen to either of them.

    • @beetooex
      @beetooex 5 років тому +10

      Well bloody said. We all love DF but DW is a great presenter too.

    • @janwitkowsky8787
      @janwitkowsky8787 5 років тому +16

      Exactly, my thoughts, when I wrote it.
      DF reminds me of my art teacher.
      Always funny, with a quick remark here and there, while still giving plenty of information.
      DW is more like my history teacher.
      A pleasure to listen to with a knack to engage the listener.

    • @dannyseo6759
      @dannyseo6759 5 років тому

      Yeah, but who would you rather drink some pints with?

    • @beetooex
      @beetooex 5 років тому +8

      @@dannyseo6759 Both obviously. The conversation would be fascinating.

    • @McShaggswell
      @McShaggswell 5 років тому +1

      @@dannyseo6759 why not both?

  • @TedSeverin
    @TedSeverin 5 років тому +71

    Yeeeesss to Vienna! I live like 15 minutes away from the HGM and can't wait to say hello to the Grizzly there! Thank you for cooperating with them.

  • @jlvfr
    @jlvfr 5 років тому +122

    As a kid, in Portugal, I remember going past one of the junkyards where these tanks were stored by the dozen. Even without guns, they were an impressive sight!

    • @MisterCuddlesworthPT
      @MisterCuddlesworthPT 5 років тому +4

      In which part of Portugal did you see those tanks?

    • @jlvfr
      @jlvfr 5 років тому +10

      Right outside Lisboa, in a junkyard. It no longer exists.

    • @Loup-mx7yt
      @Loup-mx7yt 5 років тому +8

      João Rita I am canadian and I saw one at the Ottawa war museum

    • @nighthawk8053
      @nighthawk8053 5 років тому +1

      @wow, really, that's cool!

    • @amh9494
      @amh9494 Рік тому +1

      I wonder why they end up in Portugal of all places

  • @Keadri
    @Keadri 5 років тому +11

    Chap from vienna here - thank you so much for the sherman lads

  • @stevenshaw8247
    @stevenshaw8247 5 років тому +171

    Hey im from right by granite city. Its nice to know they made something besides meth.

    • @Swarm509
      @Swarm509 5 років тому +30

      Do they cast the Meth as well?

    • @shad6644
      @shad6644 5 років тому +10

      I'm in St. Louis! Surprised to hear him mention Granite City, really cool.

    • @BrianMax
      @BrianMax 5 років тому +8

      They had huge steel mills there until the 80's.
      My father got us out before US Steel died.

    • @coleyarbor7735
      @coleyarbor7735 4 роки тому +1

      The midwest has been hit hard. Meth was first, now its the opioids.

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 роки тому

      I thought Granite City referred to Aberdeen (Scotland).

  • @trafalgarnolan
    @trafalgarnolan 5 років тому +22

    yasss finally us Canadians get our grizzly mini showcase xD

  • @taskmaster58
    @taskmaster58 5 років тому +23

    That Grizzly does have the CDP track system on it, if you look at the track links they almost look like a Panzer III/IV track. Don't forget that a lot of the Ram chassis without turrets were sent to Europe to become Kangaroo APC's.

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 5 років тому

      I think those are the "observation vehicles" he mentioned.

    • @speedythree
      @speedythree 5 років тому +3

      @@princeofcupspoc9073 No, the "observation vehicles" would have been the Ram OP/Command and GPO tanks, which were used as command vehicles for SP artillery regiments. The Ram did go to war as Kangaroos; a number were also converted into Badger flamethrower tanks.

  • @Americanmade1997
    @Americanmade1997 3 роки тому +1

    I live right by granite city steel. I had no idea we did anything related to tanks down here during ww2. Thats awesome to learn.

  • @varovaro1967
    @varovaro1967 5 років тому +12

    A wise gentleman with a beautiful voice, what else can u ask?

  • @hansheden
    @hansheden 5 років тому +143

    "Borrow a tank."
    Can anyone do that?
    Asking for a friend.

    • @chrisjones6002
      @chrisjones6002 5 років тому +8

      Heck, if you have the money you can buy one

    • @KC-bg1th
      @KC-bg1th 5 років тому +3

      Soviets did.

    • @gasmaskguys4965
      @gasmaskguys4965 5 років тому +4

      just go to a tank selling or tank loaning business and buy/rent a tank :)

    • @wkLeoTrooper
      @wkLeoTrooper 5 років тому +7

      Sure, you just have to sign a lend-lease act

    • @Dave-jj3fk
      @Dave-jj3fk 3 роки тому

      Yep u can have a recreational tank in some states but no ammo or weapons allowed but uh ion think that really matters especially in AMERICA THE LAND OF GUNS

  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe 5 років тому +11

    Interesting vehicle - I never realized Canada made so few of these Grizzlys.

  • @elwismorgan1230
    @elwismorgan1230 5 років тому +91

    Makes sense that a tank named Grizzly was left out in the cold and rain.

  • @DC9622
    @DC9622 5 років тому +25

    It was sensible of the Canadian’s to build the Ram etc on the M3 and M4 platform, for part standardisation.

    • @ramiii8633
      @ramiii8633 5 років тому +4

      DC also had to do with the British having weird materials and techniques. i think canada should try and make tanks again just for fun

    • @stevestruthers6180
      @stevestruthers6180 5 років тому

      It was also due to the fact that Canada lacked the industrial capacity to manufacture its own tank from scratch. The Ram tanks that were mentioned earlier in the video were assembled at the Montreal Locomotive Works (MLW) in Montreal. The hulls were, of course, M3 hulls that were obtained from the United States and then modified to place a machine-gun turret next to the driver's station and accept the Ram turret which was made at MLW.

    • @stevestruthers6180
      @stevestruthers6180 5 років тому +4

      @@ramiii8633: I'm Canadian myself and I would love to see something like that happen. We have the engineering talent to pull it off (the fire-control system used in the first iteration of the US M1 tank was designed and manufactured by Computing Devices Company in Canada) and it wouldn't be too difficult to set up a manufacturing plant to make an all-Canadian tank. Heck, the General Dynamics plant in London, Ontario, which built all of the LAV's for the Canadian Army and the Stryker APC for the US military, could probably build it, or at least make major sub-systems.
      Alas, there'd be less than a snowball's chance in hell of this ever happening as successive governments in Canada have not seemed very interested in manufacturing military hardware in Canada unless it's small in scale and low in terms of risk. It seems to me that the Avro Arrow and the indigenously designed and built Bobcat APC, both of which failed, put a permanent bad taste in their mouths when it came to domestic large-scale military production.

    • @jakexd5524
      @jakexd5524 5 років тому

      Steve Struthers it would take a long time and I lot of money, we haven’t built a modern tank, and we would have to design armor and other high tech systems which we might not have. It would make sense to buy a re-engined m1a2 sep v3 or a leopard 2 a7.

    • @larryclyons
      @larryclyons 5 років тому +1

      @@stevestruthers6180 The LAV 6 Assault Gun comes pretty close - the variant sold to the Saudis uses a CMI turret with a high velocity 105mm autoloader tank gun. The armour can stop 14.5mm at rounds and artillery splinters. It can also fire a ATGM through the main gun with a 5km range. Given its speed etc., it comes pretty close.

  • @ZIM252
    @ZIM252 5 років тому +250

    The only difference in the Sherman Grizzly, is that the Canadians added a megaphone. It blares an apologue every time the main gun is fired, as is tradition.

    • @panzerfaust5046
      @panzerfaust5046 5 років тому +43

      Apologue: "a moral fable, especially one with animals as characters." Giving the Germans a final bedtime story.

    • @ZIM252
      @ZIM252 5 років тому +28

      @@panzerfaust5046 Huh... you know what? Lets just go with "I meant to do that".

    • @markwilliams2620
      @markwilliams2620 5 років тому +22

      I thought it was there to allow the dispensation of copious amounts of foul mouthed obscenity. Another Canadian tradition.

    • @duncankelcey9281
      @duncankelcey9281 5 років тому +17

      I mean nowadaya it's used to blare out Bieber tracks followed by cringey justin trudeau speeches. Deadlier than HESH in some cases...

    • @canuckled
      @canuckled 5 років тому +4

      Correction: Sarcastic apologies

  • @bennybenitez2461
    @bennybenitez2461 5 років тому +4

    Brilliant a most proper presentation about the Grizzle. Thank you.

  • @spamuraigranatabru1149
    @spamuraigranatabru1149 5 років тому +4

    I stood next to this wonderful example on my way out once.
    I was told by a passing member of staff that it was a Grizzly.
    The Ram is very good as well. But Shermans rule.

  • @LordFred69
    @LordFred69 5 років тому +43

    hahaha....we dont have any Sherman tanks can you loan our museum one? Of course! Give em the Canadian version we left out in the rain for the past 5 years....

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 5 років тому +5

      Well they were hardly going to donate Michael were they?

    • @seanwatson5518
      @seanwatson5518 5 років тому +3

      it's a good tank like the grizzly was better made and put together then the american ones because the american ones were more rushed and weren't checked over as much

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 5 років тому +9

      @@seanwatson5518 im not sure about that. Ive yet to hear about any cases of poorly made shermans. But regardless the grizzly is every bit as good as the originals

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 4 роки тому +2

    The M4 is becoming my favorite tank

  • @allenatkins2263
    @allenatkins2263 5 років тому +4

    Good to see you wearing the poppy, I don't see that very often anymore.

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 5 років тому

      History proceeds, time flies, everyting flows. Even the Cold War is nowadays taught as history at schools.

    • @Kyle-gw6qp
      @Kyle-gw6qp 3 роки тому +1

      This was uploaded on the 16th, it was probably filmed around Remembrance Day.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 5 місяців тому +1

    (Thank you for pronouncing Illinois properly. So many, including Americans don't )

  • @cgaccount3669
    @cgaccount3669 4 роки тому +4

    One would think there would be a lot of various Sherman's laying around. Given the huge production runs and that they were in service for years after the war.

    • @EmergencyChannel
      @EmergencyChannel 3 роки тому

      Most got sold as surplus to third and second world countries and used until they were unrepairable and then scrapped. Paraguay retired their last Sherman's in 2018!

  • @nickdanger3802
    @nickdanger3802 2 роки тому +1

    During the early 20th century the newly formed American Locomotive Company (Alco) acquired MLW's predecessor as a means of opening new possibilities in the Canadian market.

  • @edthri
    @edthri 4 роки тому +1

    They have a Sherman Grizzly at the Muckleborough Collection if anyone wants to see one.

  • @pakchiller23
    @pakchiller23 5 років тому +3

    i cant wait to have this tank finally in our museum of my hometown. thank u sooo much for giving me that opportunity to see a sherman finally. greetings from vienna :)

  • @markrhodes1717
    @markrhodes1717 10 місяців тому

    The Sherman was so versatile and numerous it spawned more mutations than an irradiated cockroach.

  • @iatsd
    @iatsd 5 років тому +5

    The casting is actually by US Steel, from their plant in Granite City, Illinois, which is just across the river from St. Louis, Missouri.

  • @michaeld7110
    @michaeld7110 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve seen a few sources say the 188 grizzly tanks got little or no combat use. They got some. There is a video showing the 1945 liberation of Appledoorn with one pictured near the end. Another of one somewhere else in Netherlands in 1945 that i believe is Grizzly with the barrel of the 76mm cut off by a near miss about a meter out of the turret.

  • @maroairpower
    @maroairpower 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the loan and best regards from Vienna.

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 5 років тому +1

    In case you didn't know, Granite City, IL is across the Mississippi River from the St. Louis, MO area. It is a suburb of St. Louis with a lot of heavy industry, especially in the 1940s.
    It's kind of interesting that something as warlike as a tank hull would be sold to Canada, then participating in WWII, despite the US laws (Neutrality Acts) prohibiting US companies from supplying belligerent with weapons.

    • @sloanchampion85
      @sloanchampion85 5 років тому

      do you understand that Canada was a part of the Allied forces during WWII and was assisting in the gearing up for the war effort....there's nothing strange about it whatsoever...

    • @HSMiyamoto
      @HSMiyamoto 5 років тому

      @@sloanchampion85 You missed my point. Until about the summer of 1941, the official US policy was that it was a neutral country determined to avoid being drawn into WWI. The Neutrality Acts reflected the then prevalent belief that the USA had been drawn into WWI because USA arms manufacturers had been major suppliers of the Entente Powers. Some Americans even believed that arms manufacturers and bankers had drawn the US into WWI solely to savr their business interests in supplying the Allies.
      Of course, I am only relating beliefs that were widespread in the USA literally until the day Japanese bombs fell on Hawaii.

    • @HSMiyamoto
      @HSMiyamoto 5 років тому

      My comment might apply more to the Ram that preceded it. Even when the USA was furiously developing the M2 and M3, exporting weapons to countries at war was verboten. For example, supposedly there was a ramp in North Dakota where new airplanes could "accidentally" roll into Canada. Then the Canadian would say "sorry" and fly the plane on to Britain. (That last part was a joke)
      The Neutrality Laws are one reason why the combat debut of the M3 was in Operation Crusader in late 1941, after Lend-Lease was passed. Certainly after Dunkirk, the British would probably not have turned down a few thousand M2 tanks, if they had been available to them.

    • @cgaccount3669
      @cgaccount3669 5 років тому +1

      I know a guy who trained on a USA ship in Canada. They bought the ship privately and "sold" it to Canadian government as a way around usa neutrality lol. I'm sure everyone involved knew it was going to be for training the Canadians for war.

    • @dougsscalemodels
      @dougsscalemodels 6 місяців тому

      @@HSMiyamoto after the nazi invasion of Poland the US adopted the Neutrality Act of 1939, it ended the munitions embargo, the start of "cash and carry".

  • @alexball5907
    @alexball5907 5 років тому

    Well done for getting the point across that a major role for Museums is to loan their collections out.

  • @derekmcmanus1423
    @derekmcmanus1423 5 років тому +5

    Another epic video from the Tank museum

  • @minuteman4199
    @minuteman4199 5 років тому +1

    I think the tank being unloaded at 3:46 is at The Ontario Regiment Tank museum in Oshawa Ontario. If you are in the area it is well worth a visit. Last weekend for Remembrance Day they had 5 Leopard tanks, an M60, 2 Shermans, an M3 Stuart, an M24 Chaffee, a Scorpion a Scimitar, the whole AVGP family, several M113, Ferret scout cars and a whole bunch of trucks, all running. It was awesome to see. They have many more vehicles on static display. The Chieftain has even done videos from there.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 5 років тому +1

      I was also commanding the M60 in that convoy

    • @minuteman4199
      @minuteman4199 5 років тому +2

      @@TheChieftainsHatch Cool! I would have stopped to say hello had I noticed.. I saw you in your cavalry hat but didn't recognize you. I used to command a troop of Cougars in the regiment.

  • @TheBob3759
    @TheBob3759 Рік тому

    Despite its deficiencies, the M4 Sherman was the most important
    Allied tank of WWII.
    Every Allied army, including the Soviets, used it.
    53,000 Shermans were built.

  • @657449
    @657449 Рік тому

    The only Sherman I saw was in Bad Hersfeld, West Germany when I was stationed there in 1970-71. It was by the flag pole in front of the headquarters building. The night before I left for home I hung my boots over the gun tube.

  • @user-kt8yp5ho2y
    @user-kt8yp5ho2y 2 роки тому

    Too sad that this tank had been forgotten.

  • @miffedmax
    @miffedmax 5 років тому +2

    Now we need one on the Sexton!

  • @Daniel-S1
    @Daniel-S1 2 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @donaldeckert6263
    @donaldeckert6263 5 років тому +1

    The M4A1 sherman my brother and I own has the G casting mark on the transmission cover our hull was cast south of Joliet Illinois by the Pressed Steal Car Co. It is as much of an all Illinois sherman that you can get. No turrets were cast in Illinois. We live about 20 miles from Granite City.

  • @vikingwarlord2453
    @vikingwarlord2453 5 років тому +5

    Great video thankyou to you and your team

  • @walterpleyer261
    @walterpleyer261 5 років тому +1

    If you happen to visit the Military History Museum in Vienna in the next weeks, there's a nice Christmas market nearby in front of Belvedere Palace and several more around other parts of town.
    And the Museum itself has it's own Christmas Market between 29.11 and 01.12 (free entry)

    • @pakchiller23
      @pakchiller23 5 років тому

      danke walter, des war die meldung des tages für mich xD was kostet bei euch der punsch oben? und bitte sag ned 8€ xD

  • @AustrianTommy
    @AustrianTommy 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for giving this tank to the HGM!
    No Austrians also can have a look on this iconic vehicle.

  • @wannabemexican
    @wannabemexican 5 років тому +4

    I love a good Sherman. They really are iconic aren't they.

  • @gavinplunkett977
    @gavinplunkett977 5 років тому +1

    Very informative.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for posting! The M4A1 (c) Grizzly is an unsung icon of the era!
    The Myriad Ways
    The M4 story was punctuated with doctrinal and mission specificity changes.
    Maintaining several types of different chasses--say, jeeps, deuce and a halfs, motorcycles, 7 ton trucks, in a single unit's Equipment is a logistical nightmare, both at the depot and at the railhead. Naturally, it would be nice if somewhere, someone, could make a common chassis and just mount whatever was needed on it . . . sort of like the Italian As42.
    Attempts to create a "Combat Vehicle Family" based on a single chassis for commonality of components, supply, and repair, were made on all sides, with the Sherman, Panzer IV, and Type 97 coming closest to realization. 75mm and 105mm versions of the M4/M4A1/M4A3, were augmented by the 76mm armed variants, the standard self propelled artillery vehicle was the M7/M7B1, of which the latter was a Sherman variant. Crab Flails, Demolitions versions (AVRE), Beach Rescue, and Gun Tractor, variants all enjoyed at least limited production. Kangaroo versions were IFVs, more or less.
    In fact, the only variant lacking in this litany of useful machines was an AA version. Considerable research and testing were done to find an effective means of placing AA fire where needed, much of it resulting in hardware manifestation atop the Sherman chassis. Self Propelled 90mm prototypes were overbalanced, too tall for tunnels, and ill protected (meaning they would not make good tank destroyers). The T52-A Sherman, with disc turret mounting a Bofors 40mm Gun and a pair of .50cals, looks cool as heck, but only made crews dizzy. Still, it was moving in the right direction, engineering-wise.
    The idea found its most elegant expression in the Canadian Skink, not a Sherman variant, but based on the Ram, which was, in itself, a rationalized, improved, M3 Grant. One thing is common in recollections of the war: don't stand in front of a 2cmFlak(v)38! Well, the Skink was armed with a close cousin: 4 Polsten guns; in an armored turret . . . a reasonable index of AA and close support characteristics. Naturally, an all armored turret is not optimal for AA duty, but it sure was good at shooting up stuff on the ground. If they'd put a few Skink kit turrets on Shermans, it would've made the Combat Vehicle Family a reality.
    Balance of Factors-A racehorse designed by committee
    We think of armored combat as quick, but that's only compared to marching infantry. In reality, most tanks of the war were designed specifically to be able to keep up with a typical truck convoy. That limited overall size, weight, and weapon size, while forcing bigger engines on any mobile tank. Compare Char B1 or Churchill Mk VII to Sherman. The first two are seriously overarmored and, consequently, underpowered, while the other is quite lightly armored and well able to keep up with Jeeps on a soft road bed. In other words, the Churchill and Char to end all Chars were hard pressed to keep up with trucks on a concrete or block road, while the Sherman could make a high speed run to pass them on the straights. This is one factor in Strategic Mobility. Referring to my earlier point, the other main factor in Strategic Mobility is commonality of parts and ease of maintenance.
    What ifs considered.
    A 17 tank Company could field three platoons-each with three gun tanks, a Skink, and a 105), could be considered either a weaker, but more versatile, US Army Tank Platoon, or a stiffened, beefed up, UK style Troop. Command Section might be a Command Tank with extra radios and an FOP tank for Artillery/Air Liaison. You could slow the unit to a crawl by fitting an M1 Dozer blade to the 105 tank, and a Crab Flail on the Skink.

    • @HBK-6S
      @HBK-6S 5 років тому +1

      The Skink was based on a Sherman hull (specifically a Grizzly), not a Ram

    • @WildBillCox13
      @WildBillCox13 5 років тому

      Check Wufe's correction of my mistake below.

    • @WildBillCox13
      @WildBillCox13 5 років тому

      @@HBK-6S I stand corrected. Must be the weed. Thanks for spotting it.
      Corroboration: "The original program called for production of 135 complete Skink Anti-aircraft Grizzly Tanks for the use of the Canadian Army and an additional 130 Skink Anti-Aircraft Grizzly Tanks to meet British requirements."

  • @cgaccount3669
    @cgaccount3669 5 років тому +8

    I recently found out my uncle taught tank crews in ww2 at Kingston Ontario. I wonder if he used the griz. He died before I was born and I live at the other end of the country so my guess is I'll never know the details. His brother was an air gunner with the RCAF who lived thru some serious combat. They had an American cousin who died on D-Day. Sadly I'll never hear war stories from any of them. Be sure to ask your elderly relatives about their lives if you get the chance!

    • @nanObytez-kb5ru
      @nanObytez-kb5ru 3 роки тому

      One of my grandpas died before I could think up such questions and he never talked about it much to my grandma. The other one was 7 or 8 years old at the time he and his family had to flee Eastern Pomerania from the Russians. It was a miserable affair and quite unpleasant from what he told me. It's weird to uncover all those little big stories that were required for your own life to even have a chance of happening.

    • @dammitol25mg19
      @dammitol25mg19 3 роки тому

      Your uncle may have taught mine, who commanded one. He didn't like talking about the war tho'. His tank & crew were destroyed by a panzer and he only survived because cmdrs were often half out of the turret (or so I gather). Still, it's meaningful to see them and contemplate what must have been sheer hell.

    • @ryandavis7593
      @ryandavis7593 3 роки тому +1

      My grandfather Ernest Woodrow Neeld, sat us down, my cousin and I, and told us about the war in a tank. He landed at Normandy shortly after D Day then fought across France, the bulge then across Germany to Czechoslovakia. The war ended for his crew when the rolled their tank over down a mountain. 172 and the Third army under Patten.
      If he was sleeping we were told not to wake him up. If we had to wake him we were instructed to only touch his foot calling him. He was known to wake violently. He had seen to much and was never free from his demons.
      He was both proud of his service and terribly disturbed by it.
      He said he was not a hero because the hero’s didn’t come home.

  • @williamkeith8944
    @williamkeith8944 5 років тому +1

    It would be interesting to see a video of the preparation, transport, and set up of this tank for its loan to the museum in Vienna.

  • @randomworld1
    @randomworld1 5 років тому +5

    Love these videos, thank you.

  • @Trigg3rHippie
    @Trigg3rHippie 5 років тому +1

    Another great video from The Tank Museum.
    My favourite channel on UA-cam.

  • @logan13wick
    @logan13wick 4 роки тому

    I actually live about 10 minutes from granite city. My dad works down the road from where these hulls were cast.

  • @DoyleHargraves
    @DoyleHargraves 3 роки тому

    Canada is a great sidekick

  • @iLexor
    @iLexor 5 років тому +1

    Nice. As good a reason as any other to go to the HGM.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 5 років тому

    Thank you .

  • @TuShan18
    @TuShan18 5 років тому +3

    It might not be one of the variants that won the war, but it has a cool name.

  • @Musketeer009
    @Musketeer009 5 років тому +1

    Good grief. That Austrian museum's name is a bit of a mouthful. Again, a good interesting video. Thanks Tank Museum.

    • @TheGM-20XX
      @TheGM-20XX 5 років тому +1

      If it doesn't sound like a bunch of angry gobbledygook, it isn't really german now is it.

  • @jayschmidt6373
    @jayschmidt6373 5 років тому +37

    Raining in Britain? No way...

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 5 років тому

    I like the Grizzly, very nice.

  • @stevestruthers6180
    @stevestruthers6180 5 років тому +3

    If memory serves, there is an example of the Grizzly on display at the Worthington Tank Museum at Canadian Forces Base Borden in Ontario.

    • @MrGrizzly487
      @MrGrizzly487 5 років тому +1

      There is, it's just unpainted, I spent a few years as a kid in Borden and loved seeing the military weapons and vehicles.

    • @stevestruthers6180
      @stevestruthers6180 5 років тому

      @@MrGrizzly487: I've been up to the Worthington Tank Park in Borden a few times, one of my uncles was stationed there for a number of years.
      Lots of interesting armoured vehicles to see there.

  • @MrRedFox13Photography
    @MrRedFox13Photography 5 років тому

    Cool piece of a history

  • @amagnier
    @amagnier 5 років тому +2

    Very good vidéo. Thx.

  • @ghostmourn
    @ghostmourn 5 років тому

    Brilliant thank you!

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios 2 роки тому

    FYI: The "G" stands for "General Steel Castings," not "Granite City, IL." Just to clear that up.

  • @Sean_Coyne
    @Sean_Coyne 5 років тому

    That was a Grizzly tale.

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 4 роки тому

    Granite City Illinois represent!!

  • @michaelcalnan5939
    @michaelcalnan5939 5 років тому +2

    The 17 tooth sprocket was for the shorter pitched CDP track which is fitted to THAT Grizzlie. Unfortunate that the editor didn't catch such a glaring error... 😯

  • @workingguy6666
    @workingguy6666 5 років тому

    Great episode!

  • @tomgauntlestrange
    @tomgauntlestrange 2 роки тому

    amazing thing is its left outside in the weather but looks like all it needs is a tank of gas and some ammo and off it would go to war.

  • @agemmemnon100
    @agemmemnon100 5 років тому

    And I"m from Granite City, IL that made the hull! You're welcome. Lol.

  • @funkygoat15
    @funkygoat15 5 років тому

    Another great video, also congratulations on the Netflix show I was excited to see a familiar face in a Netflix documentary

  • @PigEqualsBakon
    @PigEqualsBakon 5 років тому

    we have a RAM, I think a MK 3 in vancouver. I'd love to see it run someday, but its been a gate guard for so long, all the engine components are probably siezed. That is, if it even has an engine in it at all still.

  • @davidchandler9812
    @davidchandler9812 4 роки тому

    I saw a bunch of Portugese army Shermans dumped outside one of their army camps in 1991

  • @ToshioThunder
    @ToshioThunder 5 років тому

    You adjusted the volume of the intro. Very nice :)

  • @stevesosinski6692
    @stevesosinski6692 3 роки тому

    I was given a Westinghouse fan, black color, and was told it was for a tank, I thought the A12 fan was for Navy.

  • @stephenwarhurst6615
    @stephenwarhurst6615 5 років тому +9

    I hope when the Grizzly goes to Vienna Museum it stays historically as a Grizzly and not turn into a mock up Sherman.
    p.s. it's kind like when you see people calling a plane a Messerschmitt Bf 109 when it really a Hispano Aviación HA-1112

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 5 років тому +1

      Or a Czech Sd Kfz 251, or a T-34 Tiger, or an American trainer Zero. There's lots of them.

    • @grahammckemy1390
      @grahammckemy1390 5 років тому +2

      I have the same thoughts. It's history, it's what you are trying to present, embrace it for what it is. I think the HA-1112 is an interesting plane, it's a German plane built in Spain, a neutral country, that had the engine of a British Spitfire. It's an interesting corner of history just as it is, and if it looks like any BF 109 no one is going to be interested in the story behind it. The Messerschmitt BF-108, which paved the way for many of the Messerschmitt designs, is painted up by some to look like a BF-109.

    • @barthoving2053
      @barthoving2053 5 років тому

      It's on loan. So I'm pretty sure it stays a Grizzly.

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle 5 років тому +8

    Somehow, I really can see a group of austrian craftsmen with special-purpose toothbrushes cleaning the Grizzly until it's shiny as mercury...

  • @Noobixm
    @Noobixm Місяць тому +1

    Honestly I thought all the grizzlies became kangaroo carriers alongside the ram hulls.

  • @kablanetkablanet989
    @kablanetkablanet989 8 місяців тому

    This tank was seriously improved by the Israelis, who used it to defeat the most modern Soviet tanks in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War - it only left the service in the IDF in the early 1980s.

  • @CarLos-yi7ne
    @CarLos-yi7ne 5 років тому

    So... A Grizzly is just an early specification M4 Sherman assembled (not build) in Canada from US produced parts..
    Also the Canadian style sprockets and tracks dont tell it all: they are easily exchanged with the American style sprockets and tracks because all the rest of the running gear and gearbox is standard U.S. M4.

  • @philipinchina
    @philipinchina Рік тому

    Interesting.

  • @perrinayebarra
    @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +4

    The Ram would have been deadly in combat for its time.

    • @perrinayebarra
      @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +3

      88porpoise 6 pounder remained effective throughout the war. A couple thousand more effective tanks would have come in handy I would think.

    • @perrinayebarra
      @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +3

      DOUG HEINS more versatility. More reliable performance at longer ranges. Obviously by the end of the war newer designs surpassed the capabilities of the 6 pdr but that doesn’t mean the 6 couldn’t get the job done. In 1942 it would have been excellent in an antitank role.

    • @perrinayebarra
      @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +1

      DOUG HEINS were arguing two different things. I didn’t say the 6 pounder was a better anti tank gun than later designs. Obviously it was inferior to the 17 pdr but this tank was available for service long before the firefly and had a better anti tank gun than the 75mm pop gun on the Sherman’s. Used in an anti tank role it would have been great FOR ITS TIME.

    • @perrinayebarra
      @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +2

      DOUG HEINS none of that has anything to do with what I said. I said the 6pdr ram would have been great for its time. At no time did I claim the 6 pdr was better than later designs. Are you just messing with me?

    • @perrinayebarra
      @perrinayebarra 5 років тому +2

      DOUG HEINS why then was the 6 pounder still in use a decade after the war ended? If needed the 6 pounder could utilize later ammunition advances to keep it suitable for service in an anti tank role.

  • @RedStarRogue
    @RedStarRogue 5 років тому

    There is an example of a Ram and a Sherman Tank at an armory in Vancouver BC.

    • @larryclyons
      @larryclyons 5 років тому +1

      That would be The British Columbia Regiment (Duke of Connaught's Own) Beatty Street Armoury.

    • @RedStarRogue
      @RedStarRogue 5 років тому

      @@larryclyons What he said.

    • @reeferman502
      @reeferman502 5 років тому

      Up the Dukes!

    • @reeferman502
      @reeferman502 5 років тому

      And, that is a Grizzly sitting in front of one of two Parade Halls left standing in Vancouver B.C.. Up the Dukes!

  • @Peorhum
    @Peorhum 5 років тому

    I would love to see the inside of a ram someday and see how it compares to the inside of the Sherman and the Sentinel.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 5 років тому +1

      So would I. The problem is finding one in good condition. Bovington’s, Borden’s and Vancouver’s are not. Ottawa seems to be my last hope

  • @viktorpetukhov727
    @viktorpetukhov727 5 років тому

    For a moment I felt like the background with the tank is not real. So authentic and static that feels like a colorized photo.

  • @adamgrog9614
    @adamgrog9614 5 років тому +7

    vienna? fitting, most tanks in there are so covered in moss and dirt you cant recognize what you are looking at.

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw 4 роки тому

    When you're unsure if your team-mate can even make it onto the field

  • @mrbigshoworelse
    @mrbigshoworelse 5 років тому

    Canuck tank mentioned, swell with maple syrup and beer

  • @ralphhindle
    @ralphhindle 5 років тому

    The New Zealand Army Museum has a Grizzly in it's collection. I think it came from your museum in exchange for on of our M41 'Walker Bulldog' tanks???

  • @Schaneification
    @Schaneification 5 років тому

    I live 5 mins away from the Vienna Military museum , I will let you know how it looks :=)

  • @anthonyburke5656
    @anthonyburke5656 2 роки тому

    Thanks as usual, can you do a show on Diesel powered Sherman’s?

  • @robertjohnson8938
    @robertjohnson8938 5 років тому

    Never heard of this type of tank

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence 5 років тому +4

    gate guardians have saved many rare ww2 tanks, planes etc. were it not for that, they would have been melted down!

  • @squirrele.1266
    @squirrele.1266 4 роки тому

    I like that

  • @cavscout888
    @cavscout888 5 років тому +6

    Wow, first time I've heard of a country tooling up to build a tank, and stopping because there were enough being supplied. Germany had to be jealous...

    • @Marc83Aus
      @Marc83Aus 5 років тому +2

      Australia did the same, but the Sentinel was pretty damn bad :p

    • @cavscout888
      @cavscout888 5 років тому +1

      @@Marc83Aus I'm not sure I've heard of any British tank from WW2 that actually worked that well. Even the better loved ones... turns out they had a lot of the same flaws.

    • @speedythree
      @speedythree 5 років тому

      The Americans wound up making more Shermans than Germany made tanks of ALL marks, so the Canadian production became superfluous. The resources went instead into producing just over 2000 Sexton Mk. II's for the British Army; the Mk. II's were built on the Sherman lower hull, rather than the Lee/Grant lower hull that was used for the Sexton Mk. I (and the Ram tank.)

    • @toomuchtimeonourhands2891
      @toomuchtimeonourhands2891 2 роки тому

      @@cavscout888 the Comet and Centurion tanks were both developed by the UK during the war, and entered service in 1945, although the later after Germany's surrender.

    • @cavscout888
      @cavscout888 2 роки тому

      @@toomuchtimeonourhands2891 The Centurion was too late and not a WW2 serving tank, only serving/seeing limited use in Korea. It's really not worth much study due to low to impact, other than maybe what they learned from making it. Like the MBT70 and MBT80.
      Weird that they were still so prone to breaking down constantly. Would have thought the design could have been a lot better after all the British use of the Sherman.

  • @jamiejones7325
    @jamiejones7325 9 місяців тому

    Is it true that after Dunkirk you had only 2 completely equipped divisions both Canadian including their first Tank Division?
    Our great uncles said they had to go to Canada to train in tanks right after Pearl? True?
    One had been up there to become pilot but he ended up staying Canadian. Our Canadian cousins today. Before America in the war.

  • @theWanderersnotebook
    @theWanderersnotebook 2 роки тому

    Are there any other surviving members of the Grizzlies tanks that are going to be restored to working order or as museum pieces as Grizzlies? I found this video to be very interesting as I had never heard of the Grizzly until I watched this video!
    Big thumbs up from me as I found your presenter to be absolutely personable and knowledgeable about the Grizzly! Great video!

  • @swedishstyle9778
    @swedishstyle9778 5 років тому +6

    Can you do the Strv 103? :)

  • @jasons44
    @jasons44 5 років тому

    20 mils from granite City Illinois

  • @coolminecraft1457
    @coolminecraft1457 5 років тому

    I love it. Y’all use the good ol “ there’s a problem it’s those dang Americans”

    • @hughbeastodonnell3733
      @hughbeastodonnell3733 3 роки тому

      Tradition you know. You're those Dang Yankees, no matter how far South you're from, and we're Canadian Communists or something equally unspeakable.
      ;-)
      Cheers for now.

  • @EvMund
    @EvMund 5 років тому +1

    That Sexton SPG is juicy! hope to see a video of that soon!

  • @jnb894
    @jnb894 5 років тому +1

    Looking for the most badass canadian ''Sherman'' or even, I'd say, the most badass Sherman tank ever? Look out for the Skink Grizzly tank! Awesome video as usual! But I will wonder how it would perform compare to a ''standard'' Sherman of the same period with those tracks and driving sprocket!

    • @whelmy
      @whelmy 5 років тому +1

      CDP did very well cross country, but the all steel track design at high speeds on paved roads would skid. This pretty much applied to many all steel tracks at the time.