The final doctor that testified sure knocked that smile off her face! I think she thought she could really fool them, but even the first doctor hired by the defense said she’s faking!!
Given her utter lack of remorse it's clear that even long after she came down from being on meth, she just doesn't care. It would be "normal" to once having sobered up, be HORRIFIED to the point of not wanting to live, if you found out you'd done what she did.
I totally agree with u 💯 She’s been sober for over a year if she still doesn’t see what she’s done was horrific.. then yes she’s just pure evil or mental
Her lawyer should be proud of himself despite crazy Taylor being found guilty of murder + more and that she was not time of the crime ... I truly think he tried his very best for her. Just imo
Yes, credit where it's due, her lawyer Christopher Froelich had an unenviable job to do, defending the indefensible! But such defenders are an essential part of any civilised and fair legal justice system. Respect to him. He also deserves great credit for sitting next to that freak every day, so calm and professional, knowing not only the depraved violent acts she inflicted on her victim, but also that she physically assaulted her last lawyer without any provocation whatsoever. He deserved additional danger money!
He had 0 chance at winning, and had no good argument...but he did EVERYTHING he could anyway. Good lawyer. It's a tough, tough situation, and completely unenviable.
He did do everything possible, in a calm and sane way, to defend his client. I wonder if he worried about sitting next to her given how she attacked her previous attorney. Security guards seem to be ready to pounce at all times, though
She is not a monster no one is she is a damaged person who clearly met the wrong people had her mother been alive her brother they would not have wanted her round druggies both hubby and boyfriend deserve to be called out for the scum they are even if the boyfriend is dead he was a hardcore meth head and he should have never got her involved
@@John-ww2bf I don't think her mother or brother could stop her from doing whatever she wanted to do. On her old Facebook page, she only acknowledged her father, son & of course, her husband She had a cute baby but he's been in custody of his grandparents even before she was arrested. She has a long rapsheet too.
@@John-ww2bfpeople are responsible for their own choices and actions. If one wants to escape misogyny and patriarchy, those things can’t be blamed and take away responsibility. Many people lose their mothers and their fathers, have friends and marry bad people with drug problems and they don’t end up cutting humans to pieces. Marrying was her choice, she chose the husband, having a child was her choice, she chose her friends, she chose to take drugs…she’s a modern independent woman but when she chose to chain strangle and cut to pieces her childhood friend suddenly it’s misogyny.
Hat’s 🎩 off to the jury 4 not hesitating and acting like they don’t have common sense. They were on point , no time wasted and being swift /quick. The same thing needs to happen to Melly get some real juror’s with common sense. 👍🏿
Being honest, every single 'psych' doctor I've ever seen give evidence are dodgy IMHO. If you watch the other two give evidence to state's questions they, especially the gut are so confident, almost smug. Then watch when defense put forward a valid argument he moves his head and purses his lips etc. I bet none of them are hard to read in a poker match. Maybe the blind leading the blind is an apt phrase to apply to psych's , at least those whose main income stems from court appearances.
I liked her!! Maybe it was just refreshment to watch her lively interview,, it got my attention from the monotone hours of everything else.... I wish we could have had video of her interviews with her, to see how psychotic she has apparently gotten ... to hear her for ourselves if she carries on normal conversation or if shes that far gone...
Yes! Not only that but when the state called their expert in she was sitting up watching and carefully listening no faces were made(compared to the eyebrow raising and smirked she did the whole time)
@@lillexus5589stop insulting witches and she’s just a ball of bad acting. Yes, for such a young person, the bags under her eyes are pronounced and I’ll bet that her face will wear the creases and wrinkles of the faces she makes (seems to be happening already) in the coming years.
One of the best. His calm but no-nonsense persona and amazing ability to keep things on time is very impressive! All judges say their goal is to respect the jurors’ time but this one really means it!
This case was handled very well in court, lead by a truly professional, patient and fair judge. However, not sure about the defense who ignored the witness statement and evidence, that this horrific crime was premeditated and somewhat organised. It seems that the defendant has control of her behaviour. She didn’t grin on the last day in court. Additionally, Dr Lytton who spoke as a witness appeared to be biased and exhibited quite a theatrical attitude considering this was a real court and not a movie scene, while the two other Drs were to the point, precise and serious. The verdict is no surprise.
SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION BEFORE SHE COMMITTED THIS HEINOUS ACT OF CRIME.😠 IF HER LOVER WAS ABUSIVE HE COULD'VE TRIGGERED SOMETHING IN HER MENTAL STATE.
Hats off to the jury 4 not hesitating and acting like they don’t have common sense. They were on point no time wasted and being swift and quick. The sane thing needs to happen to Melly get some real jurors with common sense. 👍🏿
I loved the male Dr. that was on earlier during the day yesterday. The one who was hired by the court and not the State or Defense. He was so knowledgeable and spoke so well and concise. You were able to understand him clearly! It blows my mind how many of these Dr.’s have difficulty being able to speak without saying Umm after every word! The female Dr. that was an expert witness for the State was a perfect example! 🤦🏾♀️
Imagine JD being your hero and carrying out the horrendous acts that she did. Worse, imagine representing such a depraved and horrifying creature. I could never.
I think if she got a public defender they have to. Unless she posed a danger to them or didn’t ask for one. Or clearly stated she didn’t want one. Otherwise I’m sure someone would’ve complained about her rights for some reason. There’s always someone.
WOW! This female psychiatrist, Dr Engen, can’t say one whole sentence without saying the word “um!” She should have gone before the male Dr Seibel, that guy was extremely intelligent & well spoken.
She definitely has to be in some way nuts in the head to do what she did, but it does not change the fact that she is a serious danger to others and possibly even more dangerous for maybe being psychotic and still needs to be locked up no matter what.
I agree. She knew right from wrong. That poor mother that had to find her child dismembered. I just learned that the defendant is a mother herself. She knew to leave that boys house in a hurry. That in itself shows that she knew what she had done was wrong. All of the mental health comments from the defense’s mental health worker…her behavior in her cell. That was defendant paving a road for herself to appear to have mental illness or damage. I’m glad the jury didn’t find her to be credible and used their jury instruction to come to a decision. Rest the soul of the victim and peace for his family and friends.
Some attorney's do this based on their client w/the madness she has already displayed. IMO he probably would prefer to do it w/o having to lean in & speak w/her b/c her not getting the NGI she may lash out AGAIN due to sensitivity & reality that she is going to prison and not getting off w/ NGI. My Uncle has his own criminal defense law firm & he said the same thing b/c the high emotions of this being reality that this is the end of the road for her on top of her behavioral antics that she has already shown by assaulting her own lawyer & throwing more fits! He said they would meet in the back in a more "conference" style room just for his safety as well as hers!
There must be a "MIDDLE" to State hospital & being in general population in Prison!! I don't think she should be FREE... But there's NO WAY she's competent.
It's called having zero empathy. She literally cannot understand other people's feelings, she only cares if it happens to her. So a sociopath, that doesn't mean she isn't competent. Literally the opposite. She knew exactly what she was doing. Making a calculated effort to seem insane during the trial, luckily the jury weren't idiots.
I find it very hard to believe that in thirty two years of practicing, she never had someone throw a chair at her...? And had never seen someone as equally psychotic?
The female psychologist was on point. Too many people wanna put their biased opinions out there on what they speculate of this case and it's truly ridiculous. Taylor does need to face the consequences of the horrible crime she committed, but she also desperately NEEDS mental help.
You can’t fix her! She did it and enjoyed it! Empathy cannot be manufactured and and unless you could zap the part of her brain that caused the choice and enjoyment, she’s soulless!
@tammyminor4272 ✅️ Exactly! I agree with you 100% During her interrogation, she even told the 2 detectives " I have been thinking, of doing this before." That's definitely premeditated murder. She was born Evil.
Nobody IN their RIGHT mind would do something like this! ARE YOU in your right mind currently? If your answer is yes, would YOU do something like THIS??I didn't think so!!
& Some people are just pure evil, who would do something like this. She even told the 2 dectectives during her interrogation that "I have been thinking of doing this, before." That means it was premeditated murder full stop.
I have family members with bipolar and they don’t go out killing people just saying. This chick having depression, suicidal thoughts ADHD does not amount to a person, harming another person. These are disorders that tons of people have that don’t do harm to other people it’s just a copout excuse for her actions
@@pikas_palace Bipolar is not more common among murderers though. Typically that disorder does not manifest murderously. Some disorders do have a higher correlation with crime (such as antisocial personality disorder, which Taylor probably has) but to my knowledge Bipolar I and II are not those illnesses. Not sure about schizophrenia.
After watching some of her interviews with police and her behaviour while on trial one of the most disturbing aspects of this is the fact that many here think she's not insane. You think her behaviour is that of a rational person. Little wonder then that the US has daily death and brutality on the news when so many of you think it is normal and that she isn't a cold-blooded psychopath.
Not just that even in prison they have her on strong psych meds - So she’s obviously not mentally all there! If her mental institution history from a young age isn’t proof she’s not sane I don't know what is …. 🤷🏼♀️
Drug use made her crazy, but she's not insane. There is a difference. She was never diagnosed with ANY mental illnesses actually (ie which would allude to some insanity at the time of the crime). Meth played a huge role in this, and sorry but drug induced psychosis makes you fully responsible for your heinous actions. And usually, when one is granted guilty by reason of insanity, typically the crime is committed due to PARANOIA / when one genuinely (yet irrationally) felt their life was in danger. We don't see that! That is an extremely rare occurance. Taylor fully knew what she was doing. To the point she was able to dismember and hide body parts, AND hide the weapon. That's not insanity.
@@elcarppintero Insane doesn't mean not aware. Serious question, do you think that is why so many are saying she isn't insane, because it's like an excuse in that she didn't know what she was doing? I'm quite certain she did know what she was doing. That's why I think she's a cold blooded psychopath.
That’s because she’s not insane. Being declared not guilty by reason of insanity means the person lacked the mens rea (guilty mind) and could not distinguish right from wrong when committing the crime. Psychopath is not a clinical diagnosis, the closest would be someone who has antisocial personality disorder, but they are not “insane” in legal terms because they fully understand right from wrong. They just don’t care. She’s not “normal” (because she definitely has a personality disorder at minimum) but she’s not insane either.
This case is so bizarre. The most bizarre thing, however, is how distracted I am with the defendants facial expressions and grimacing. I can’t imagine how the jurors are focusing on testimony. I have the luxury of rewinding the video if I’ve found that I missed something. The jury cannot. I don’t know yet how they will rule but I hope that the victim and his family get justice. Prayers to his soul and to his family and friends. Also.. I feel like her fathers testimony was skewed; he seemed very defensive until he seemed to realize that his daughters attorney was working in her best interested. At one point (before his testimony became more palatable) he was battling with the defense counsel. Then he apologized and said he was sorry that there was so much going on and continued to answer the questions more favorably to his daughter’s defense. I was surprised that they allowed dialogue when he was being taken out of the court room. That poor boys mother couldn’t say I love you or goodbye to her son. Why was this woman allowed to have a quick back and forth with her family? I guess it’s here nor there. It’s been done already. I do wonder why the father is incarcerated. Great coverage Law&Crime. Thank you!
that quack psychologist is giving the quack psychologist from Gannon Stauch's stepmom's trial. Talks in circles and can't answer a question straight. Embarrassed for her
After seeing the testimony of Dr. 'I can't read/pronounce it' Lytton, how did that help?! All I thought was: lock her up, lock her up!! (yeah I know..... 🤣)
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching these videos. Although I am a bit confused, in the UK the court stands for the judge to either enter or leave the courtroom! Unlike in this video everybody stands for the jury to enter or leave the courtroom! 😂
God bless her son living with her creepy husband's parents. May he come out ok and may the courts keep an eye on him, CPS watch over him lest he end up a meth addict like his father.
I think the defense lawyer did the best he could with what he had lmao he didnt have a lot to work with especially since that evil being confessed and acted like an evil person with her facial expressions. I have a lot of respect for defense attorneys and attorneys in general. Being a lawyer on either side seems like it takes ablot of wirk and research on their part.
I’m not a psychologist and it’s really difficult for me to see anything, at all, aside from a shifty eyed, dark, soulless, thing that has a hard time not laughing through most of this. Apparently, meth and heroine will not HELP your brain. The laughing…His head and genitals in bucket. 😑She enjoyed killing him. Some people don’t believe in “evil” but hey, some of us do. The laughing….
It's really difficult to judge a human being. Was it the environment or was the state that didn't see this coming. Does evil lurk in the shadows of the soul, does it require the perfect environment to come out? I have a lot of questions, this is not enough.
Not that there was much for her attorney to work with, but his case was the weakest, most unconvincing I have ever seen. Would have been a little more exciting had he done a better job. Worst attorney ever. Waste of taxpayer money.
She is be gone from the world very soon. We'll see her one more time at sentencing and hopefully hear statements from Shad's family. Her family are just like her.
so sad :( another life lost because of not treated mental illness. she should've had mental help when she was just a girl. now will spend the rest of her natural life locked. waste of lives.
I agree, I knew of the murder but wasn't aware of much about her. I didn't know her mother died aged just 41 - alcoholism, the dad in prison or that her brother died recently in a motorcycle crash. The most shocking was to hear she was married and had a baby not long before this murder. I may have missed it but I didn't hear once whether post partem depression or psychosis could have led her to murder. She left her baby with her grandparents to return to Green Bay.😢
My husband of 11yrs that I have 2 sons that are 17yo & 16yo come to find out was having an affair w/ my dad's wife (my stepmom) of 33yrs while living under their roof! The affair went on for 2 yrs before it was "leaked" (we divorced for other reasons b/c I had no clue) my dad & I found out about the affair on Aug. 10th, 2022 & my dad all of a sudden went into a coma w/ organ failure Aug 12th, 2022 & died the next day w/ the death being undetermined but they believe he was poisoned b/c he found out about their affair!! I'm ADHD/ADD plus bi•polar w/ manic depression on top of the side effect of have recently being diagnosed @ 30yrs old w/colon cancer PLUS finding out they are now engaged one day after starting treatment! I think it's acceptable for me to take care of (2) TWO PROBLEMS w/ the way I feel would be getting justice for my family, my dad & my sons!! It clearly didn't take much to be allowed to have a NGI verdict option, if this girl got the option because she likes to smoke ICE I think I definitely got that on lock!! Lol I'm sorry I could not help it!
“Praise god for guilt.” What an odd statement. We all feel guilt from time to time, so why praise a deity for this apparently unremarkable human emotion? It seems you should condemn god for creating this monster and allowing her to inflict the most heinous torture on an innocent man. Torture that one could only imagine in their worst nightmares. That would make more sense, assuming god is real.
It was so obvious she wasnt insane. When all of a sudden she starts having laughing fits and finger gun hand actions leading up to and during the mental evaluation witnesses 😂
The final doctor that testified sure knocked that smile off her face! I think she thought she could really fool them, but even the first doctor hired by the defense said she’s faking!!
Given her utter lack of remorse it's clear that even long after she came down from being on meth, she just doesn't care. It would be "normal" to once having sobered up, be HORRIFIED to the point of not wanting to live, if you found out you'd done what she did.
I totally agree with u 💯
She’s been sober for over a year if she still doesn’t see what she’s done was horrific.. then yes she’s just pure evil or mental
Because she's mentally ill. What sane person would speak to cops the way she did. Singing like a canary. You think she's 'normal'
timestamps of significance
opening statements
1:17:57 (defense's opening statement)
1:27:03 (prosecution's opening statement)
witnesses
1:37:15 arturo coronado (taylor schabusiness' father)
1:54:00 diane lytton pt. 1 (independent forensic psychologist operating out of oshkosh, WI)
2:57:44 diane lytton pt. 2
5:19:10 matthew seipel (psychologist with behavioral consultants & psychologist of the wisconsin forensic unit)
6:12:15 christina engen pt. 1 (phychologist with behavioral consultants)
6:59:33 christina engen pt. 2
closing statements
8:25:15 (defense's closing statement)
8:44:25 (prosecution's closing statement)
9:11:03 (defense presents a rebuttal)
10:25:40 verdict submission and reading 🥳
Not all heros wear capes. Bless.
You’re the best
@@wednesdaymonroe at your service m'lord
Thank you! ❤
Thank you so much! A very long day so these time stamps are really a gift! 😘
Her lawyer should be proud of himself despite crazy Taylor being found guilty of murder + more and that she was not time of the crime ... I truly think he tried his very best for her. Just imo
I agree. He is a good lawyer and he did everything he could for that monster.
Yes, credit where it's due, her lawyer Christopher Froelich had an unenviable job to do, defending the indefensible! But such defenders are an essential part of any civilised and fair legal justice system. Respect to him.
He also deserves great credit for sitting next to that freak every day, so calm and professional, knowing not only the depraved violent acts she inflicted on her victim, but also that she physically assaulted her last lawyer without any provocation whatsoever. He deserved additional danger money!
He had 0 chance at winning, and had no good argument...but he did EVERYTHING he could anyway.
Good lawyer. It's a tough, tough situation, and completely unenviable.
I agree, I also noted that the state & defence were respectful to each other in this case.
He did do everything possible, in a calm and sane way, to defend his client. I wonder if he worried about sitting next to her given how she attacked her previous attorney. Security guards seem to be ready to pounce at all times, though
Has anyone performed a mental health evaluation on Dr. Diane Lytton?
Thank you Jurors! This case is one of the most horrific, depraved, sad ones I have watched! The woman is a true monster.
It's giving misogyny...
Perfectly said .
She is not a monster no one is she is a damaged person who clearly met the wrong people had her mother been alive her brother they would not have wanted her round druggies both hubby and boyfriend deserve to be called out for the scum they are even if the boyfriend is dead he was a hardcore meth head and he should have never got her involved
@@John-ww2bf I don't think her mother or brother could stop her from doing whatever she wanted to do.
On her old Facebook page, she only acknowledged her father, son & of course, her husband
She had a cute baby but he's been in custody of his grandparents even before she was arrested.
She has a long rapsheet too.
@@John-ww2bfpeople are responsible for their own choices and actions. If one wants to escape misogyny and patriarchy, those things can’t be blamed and take away responsibility. Many people lose their mothers and their fathers, have friends and marry bad people with drug problems and they don’t end up cutting humans to pieces. Marrying was her choice, she chose the husband, having a child was her choice, she chose her friends, she chose to take drugs…she’s a modern independent woman but when she chose to chain strangle and cut to pieces her childhood friend suddenly it’s misogyny.
Saw the real Taylor at the end!! Her eyes opened up and she looked normal. Good job Jurors. Thank you!!
She didn't even show a single drop of remorse. How could someone smile during their trial of murder!
Because she is pure evil.
Insanity mixed with Evil 😈
The Father as a witness was a huge mistake😂😂😂
Hat’s 🎩 off to the jury 4 not hesitating and acting like they don’t have common sense. They were on point , no time wasted and being swift /quick. The same thing needs to happen to Melly get some real juror’s with common sense. 👍🏿
Your bringing a whole mother case into this one’s innocent it’s sad you fail to see that thank god you are not a juror for any case 🙏
@@Jonathan-sg3udEver heard of punctuation ...
@@serif392
I’ve heard of guilty.
@@Jonathan-sg3ud
It’s all the same guilty is guilty especially if u have common sense.
@@tonytrotter139 I agree...
The defense expert witness is an embarrassment to the medical profession!
Being honest, every single 'psych' doctor I've ever seen give evidence are dodgy IMHO. If you watch the other two give evidence to state's questions they, especially the gut are so confident, almost smug. Then watch when defense put forward a valid argument he moves his head and purses his lips etc. I bet none of them are hard to read in a poker match. Maybe the blind leading the blind is an apt phrase to apply to psych's , at least those whose main income stems from court appearances.
Yep. She acted like straight out of a Perry Mason episode. 😂
Watching now, and it’s driving me insane how she elongates her vowels to sound smarter than everyone
@@Chris66Mas😂
I liked her!! Maybe it was just refreshment to watch her lively interview,, it got my attention from the monotone hours of everything else.... I wish we could have had video of her interviews with her, to see how psychotic she has apparently gotten ... to hear her for ourselves if she carries on normal conversation or if shes that far gone...
I can’t imagine being her son and possibly finding out what my biological mother did. Also interesting to see her dad testify.
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing on both.
The change in her mannerisms after the verdict was read is shocking. It was a complete act!
Exactly!
Yes! Not only that but when the state called their expert in she was sitting up watching and carefully listening no faces were made(compared to the eyebrow raising and smirked she did the whole time)
She never changed at all, you Imbeciles are just seeing what you want to see as usual. 🤡🥱🙄
AGREED
I laughed how her demeanor changed right after verdict. No smirking anymore 😂 lame performance was over
There's a BIG difference in being insane and just being plain evil. Jurors made quick work of her.
They really took care of Schabusiness.
Evil? 🤣If jurors are basing their decision on their religious views then that should be a strong case for an appeal.
@@parati1309 lol ok buddy
@@kaerbear LMFAO!!! Good one!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@parati1309 evil is not a religious construct.
She will die behind bars and no one will remember her. Justice for Shad!
@@alicewaggle6803sooner rather than later I’m hoping
What was the sentence? I couldn’t find it but I hope it was life in prison?
@@PenelopemeeSentence will be announced in September.
The cracks that always comes to defend the killers, always forget their DMS book!!😮
She sure isn’t laughing now! She no longer needs to act crazy
I’m fascinated by her. Imagine her character in a film or book. She didn’t even thank the sheriff for pouring her water.
I am fascinated by how much older she looks without make up, looks like a witch
@@lillexus5589 don't do drugs! That's what it will do to you. Age you beyond your years.
@@lillexus5589Drugs & heartache written all over that face.
@@lillexus5589 She IS wearing makeup though!
@@lillexus5589stop insulting witches and she’s just a ball of bad acting. Yes, for such a young person, the bags under her eyes are pronounced and I’ll bet that her face will wear the creases and wrinkles of the faces she makes (seems to be happening already) in the coming years.
Watching the whole trial on L&C I been trying to figure out who TS looks like....
I figured it out, Darlene Conner from Roseanne.
I like this judge.
One of the best. His calm but no-nonsense persona and amazing ability to keep things on time is very impressive! All judges say their goal is to respect the jurors’ time but this one really means it!
She’s not smiling and making weird faces now ……
She knew what exactly she was doing
This case was handled very well in court, lead by a truly professional, patient and fair judge. However, not sure about the defense who ignored the witness statement and evidence, that this horrific crime was premeditated and somewhat organised. It seems that the defendant has control of her behaviour. She didn’t grin on the last day in court. Additionally, Dr Lytton who spoke as a witness appeared to be biased and exhibited quite a theatrical attitude considering this was a real court and not a movie scene, while the two other Drs were to the point, precise and serious. The verdict is no surprise.
Wow! That second doctor hit it out of the ballpark!
SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION BEFORE SHE COMMITTED THIS HEINOUS ACT OF CRIME.😠 IF HER LOVER WAS ABUSIVE HE COULD'VE TRIGGERED SOMETHING IN HER MENTAL STATE.
That wiped the smile of her face
Her devil horns during her dad's testimony (1:48:34) and the "Go Bears" they exchanged as he was leaving (1:51:31) were the weirdest parts of day 4.
Does anyone know why he's incarcerated? I couldn't find any info.
He was trying to protect her. Why he was even called for questioning is crazy.
@@ashleypg1708sa of a minor
@@ashleypg1708was sentenced 10 days ago
Maybe the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree?🫣
Hats off to the jury 4 not hesitating and acting like they don’t have common sense. They were on point no time wasted and being swift and quick. The sane thing needs to happen to Melly get some real jurors with common sense. 👍🏿
The Evil of Drugs 🙄
I'm telling you, this chic needs an exorcist.
Definately DEMONS!
But I’m telling you right now! that MF back there is not real!
@@maiden-eq4uv EXACTLY 🤣
@maiden-eq4uv Everyone laughs until they see one. I used to laugh too at people until the day I saw a man that was not human.
I loved the male Dr. that was on earlier during the day yesterday. The one who was hired by the court and not the State or Defense. He was so knowledgeable and spoke so well and concise. You were able to understand him clearly! It blows my mind how many of these Dr.’s have difficulty being able to speak without saying Umm after every word! The female Dr. that was an expert witness for the State was a perfect example! 🤦🏾♀️
Imagine JD being your hero and carrying out the horrendous acts that she did. Worse, imagine representing such a depraved and horrifying creature. I could never.
I think if she got a public defender they have to. Unless she posed a danger to them or didn’t ask for one. Or clearly stated she didn’t want one. Otherwise I’m sure someone would’ve complained about her rights for some reason. There’s always someone.
@@Storyteller33446 Yeah. True.
WOW!
This female psychiatrist, Dr Engen, can’t say one whole sentence without saying the word “um!”
She should have gone before the male
Dr Seibel, that guy was extremely intelligent & well spoken.
If they were interviewing a criminal using umm they'd say they were lying too
She definitely has to be in some way nuts in the head to do what she did, but it does not change the fact that she is a serious danger to others and possibly even more dangerous for maybe being psychotic and still needs to be locked up no matter what.
I agree. She knew right from wrong. That poor mother that had to find her child dismembered. I just learned that the defendant is a mother herself. She knew to leave that boys house in a hurry. That in itself shows that she knew what she had done was wrong. All of the mental health comments from the defense’s mental health worker…her behavior in her cell. That was defendant paving a road for herself to appear to have mental illness or damage. I’m glad the jury didn’t find her to be credible and used their jury instruction to come to a decision. Rest the soul of the victim and peace for his family and friends.
I'm surprised the defense didn't call Dr. Lewis 🤣
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Not a word spoken from attorney to criminal after verdict is read. Is that odd?
Great job to this jury.
No he’ll talk to her during sentencing
Some attorney's do this based on their client w/the madness she has already displayed. IMO he probably would prefer to do it w/o having to lean in & speak w/her b/c her not getting the NGI she may lash out AGAIN due to sensitivity & reality that she is going to prison and not getting off w/ NGI. My Uncle has his own criminal defense law firm & he said the same thing b/c the high emotions of this being reality that this is the end of the road for her on top of her behavioral antics that she has already shown by assaulting her own lawyer & throwing more fits! He said they would meet in the back in a more "conference" style room just for his safety as well as hers!
@@JessLBreen yess!! and bc she did attack another one of her attorneys in previous court visits she’s insane
The Defense attorney didn't believe his own bull$hit! 😂
THANK YOU JURORS FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING!! JUSTICE SERVED!!!
There must be a "MIDDLE" to State hospital & being in general population in Prison!! I don't think she should be FREE... But there's NO WAY she's competent.
I agree… you gotta be nuts to do what she did AFTER killing him
It's called having zero empathy. She literally cannot understand other people's feelings, she only cares if it happens to her. So a sociopath, that doesn't mean she isn't competent. Literally the opposite. She knew exactly what she was doing. Making a calculated effort to seem insane during the trial, luckily the jury weren't idiots.
It’s called being a psychopath
Should have called Dr Dorothy Lewis and Dr David Spiegel.
😂😂
I was thinking of watching this again for over 10 hours I might actually be tried for been insane 😂
I find it very hard to believe that in thirty two years of practicing, she never had someone throw a chair at her...? And had never seen someone as equally psychotic?
Could defense have found a worse “doctor”?
Yeeesss, 10:25:26 NOT INSANE 🙌🏿. Wiping that EVIL SMIRK off your face!!!
DSM criteria is ridiculous. Many people on this earth a misdiagnosed and medicated incorrectly.
Yes,yes,yes ……Evil women did not smile at the verdict….Life without parole for her.DP should be brought back.
Elect better prosecutors and judges, also governors and all elected officials. RESTORE SANITY!
The female psychologist was on point. Too many people wanna put their biased opinions out there on what they speculate of this case and it's truly ridiculous. Taylor does need to face the consequences of the horrible crime she committed, but she also desperately NEEDS mental help.
You can’t fix her! She did it and enjoyed it! Empathy cannot be manufactured and and unless you could zap the part of her brain that caused the choice and enjoyment, she’s soulless!
@@tammyminor4272 lol. Ok. Whatever you say.
@tammyminor4272
✅️ Exactly!
I agree with you 100%
During her interrogation, she even told the 2 detectives " I have been thinking, of doing this before."
That's definitely premeditated murder.
She was born Evil.
Nobody IN their RIGHT mind would do something like this! ARE YOU in your right mind currently? If your answer is yes, would YOU do something like THIS??I didn't think so!!
I agree, I saw evidence at a young age she had behavioral issues until now. With the multiple psychiatric admissions. She’s not there imho.
& Some people are just pure evil, who would do something like this.
She even told the 2 dectectives during her interrogation that "I have been thinking of doing this, before."
That means it was premeditated murder full stop.
I have family members with bipolar and they don’t go out killing people just saying. This chick having depression, suicidal thoughts ADHD does not amount to a person, harming another person. These are disorders that tons of people have that don’t do harm to other people it’s just a copout excuse for her actions
@@pikas_palace Bipolar is not more common among murderers though. Typically that disorder does not manifest murderously. Some disorders do have a higher correlation with crime (such as antisocial personality disorder, which Taylor probably has) but to my knowledge Bipolar I and II are not those illnesses. Not sure about schizophrenia.
Its an insult to people suffering with mental illness to assume it makes them dangerous for society. She knew exactly what she did.
Yep same plus a relative with schizophrenia...no murderers in my family
God that smirk🤬
The defense attorney has no energy, he knows it's a lost case.
I wanna see scans of her brain. Like there’s no way she was just a normal kid acting out. Something’s different with this one 😵💫
She is not acting anymore. Weird sick
Quinn Jolly (Shabusiness’s 1st attorney who she attacked) looks like a twin brother of her current attorney Christopher Froelich. Very confusing. 😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was a little confused by this lol
After watching some of her interviews with police and her behaviour while on trial one of the most disturbing aspects of this is the fact that many here think she's not insane. You think her behaviour is that of a rational person. Little wonder then that the US has daily death and brutality on the news when so many of you think it is normal and that she isn't a cold-blooded psychopath.
Not just that even in prison they have her on strong psych meds - So she’s obviously not mentally all there! If her mental institution history from a young age isn’t proof she’s not sane I don't know what is …. 🤷🏼♀️
Drug use made her crazy, but she's not insane. There is a difference. She was never diagnosed with ANY mental illnesses actually (ie which would allude to some insanity at the time of the crime). Meth played a huge role in this, and sorry but drug induced psychosis makes you fully responsible for your heinous actions.
And usually, when one is granted guilty by reason of insanity, typically the crime is committed due to PARANOIA / when one genuinely (yet irrationally) felt their life was in danger. We don't see that! That is an extremely rare occurance. Taylor fully knew what she was doing. To the point she was able to dismember and hide body parts, AND hide the weapon. That's not insanity.
Maybe some people are evil beyond belief and are aware of what they do and enjoy it to the utmost.
@@elcarppintero Insane doesn't mean not aware. Serious question, do you think that is why so many are saying she isn't insane, because it's like an excuse in that she didn't know what she was doing?
I'm quite certain she did know what she was doing. That's why I think she's a cold blooded psychopath.
That’s because she’s not insane. Being declared not guilty by reason of insanity means the person lacked the mens rea (guilty mind) and could not distinguish right from wrong when committing the crime. Psychopath is not a clinical diagnosis, the closest would be someone who has antisocial personality disorder, but they are not “insane” in legal terms because they fully understand right from wrong. They just don’t care. She’s not “normal” (because she definitely has a personality disorder at minimum) but she’s not insane either.
This case is so bizarre. The most bizarre thing, however, is how distracted I am with the defendants facial expressions and grimacing. I can’t imagine how the jurors are focusing on testimony. I have the luxury of rewinding the video if I’ve found that I missed something. The jury cannot. I don’t know yet how they will rule but I hope that the victim and his family get justice.
Prayers to his soul and to his family and friends.
Also.. I feel like her fathers testimony was skewed; he seemed very defensive until he seemed to realize that his daughters attorney was working in her best interested.
At one point (before his testimony became more palatable) he was battling with the defense counsel. Then he apologized and said he was sorry that there was so much going on and continued to answer the questions more favorably to his daughter’s defense. I was surprised that they allowed dialogue when he was being taken out of the court room. That poor boys mother couldn’t say I love you or goodbye to her son. Why was this woman allowed to have a quick back and forth with her family? I guess it’s here nor there. It’s been done already. I do wonder why the father is incarcerated.
Great coverage Law&Crime. Thank you!
This guy needs to go to jail as well.
that quack psychologist is giving the quack psychologist from Gannon Stauch's stepmom's trial. Talks in circles and can't answer a question straight. Embarrassed for her
After seeing the testimony of Dr. 'I can't read/pronounce it' Lytton, how did that help?! All I thought was: lock her up, lock her up!! (yeah I know..... 🤣)
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching these videos. Although I am a bit confused, in the UK the court stands for the judge to either enter or leave the courtroom! Unlike in this video everybody stands for the jury to enter or leave the courtroom! 😂
She took a sip of that water knowing she bout to be found guilty.
Quack doctor didn't even get her entire history or medical records? WTF. And tell me she's not crazy: 9:05:41
Lol
She knew exactly what she’s doing an knew right from wrong She planned it out and then executed that she killed the person that she was dating!
She's gonna have plenty of letters to read in prison from dudes who adore her. I sent mine out last week
God bless her son living with her creepy husband's parents. May he come out ok and may the courts keep an eye on him, CPS watch over him lest he end up a meth addict like his father.
With her grandparents I think.
Just sentence her now. Obviously she gets life no parole
I love hearing these mental health professionals explain the evidence.
@@alicewaggle6803 yeah that was wrong
does anyone know why her father is in jail?
I think the defense lawyer did the best he could with what he had lmao he didnt have a lot to work with especially since that evil being confessed and acted like an evil person with her facial expressions. I have a lot of respect for defense attorneys and attorneys in general. Being a lawyer on either side seems like it takes ablot of wirk and research on their part.
The jury: “This is Schabusiness”
Yeah I couldn’t believe that was a real last name.
I’m not a psychologist and it’s really difficult for me to see anything, at all, aside from a shifty eyed, dark, soulless, thing that has a hard time not laughing through most of this. Apparently, meth and heroine will not HELP your brain. The laughing…His head and genitals in bucket. 😑She enjoyed killing him. Some people don’t believe in “evil” but hey, some of us do. The laughing….
It's really difficult to judge a human being. Was it the environment or was the state that didn't see this coming. Does evil lurk in the shadows of the soul, does it require the perfect environment to come out? I have a lot of questions, this is not enough.
@@lutzwaltzTchvosky whoa, interesting
Not that there was much for her attorney to work with, but his case was the weakest, most unconvincing I have ever seen. Would have been a little more exciting had he done a better job. Worst attorney ever. Waste of taxpayer money.
It’s hard to put stick in any of the psych testimony. Always have opposite testimony from both sides. Does not give me a lot of confidence.
Court-ordered psych evaluations are always the most reliable. Neutral with no dog in the fight!
I lost it when they refer to her as "Miss Schabusiness" lmao
She is be gone from the world very soon. We'll see her one more time at sentencing and hopefully hear statements from Shad's family. Her family are just like her.
so sad :( another life lost because of not treated mental illness. she should've had mental help when she was just a girl. now will spend the rest of her natural life locked. waste of lives.
I agree, I knew of the murder but wasn't aware of much about her. I didn't know her mother died aged just 41 - alcoholism, the dad in prison or that her brother died recently in a motorcycle crash. The most shocking was to hear she was married and had a baby not long before this murder. I may have missed it but I didn't hear once whether post partem depression or psychosis could have led her to murder. She left her baby with her grandparents to return to Green Bay.😢
These are the weirdest last names
Straight up evil
My husband of 11yrs that I have 2 sons that are 17yo & 16yo come to find out was having an affair w/ my dad's wife (my stepmom) of 33yrs while living under their roof! The affair went on for 2 yrs before it was "leaked" (we divorced for other reasons b/c I had no clue) my dad & I found out about the affair on Aug. 10th, 2022 & my dad all of a sudden went into a coma w/ organ failure Aug 12th, 2022 & died the next day w/ the death being undetermined but they believe he was poisoned b/c he found out about their affair!! I'm ADHD/ADD plus bi•polar w/ manic depression on top of the side effect of have recently being diagnosed @ 30yrs old w/colon cancer PLUS finding out they are now engaged one day after starting treatment!
I think it's acceptable for me to take care of (2) TWO PROBLEMS w/ the way I feel would be getting justice for my family, my dad & my sons!! It clearly didn't take much to be allowed to have a NGI verdict option, if this girl got the option because she likes to smoke ICE I think I definitely got that on lock!! Lol I'm sorry I could not help it!
Get help….
Whatever chance you thought you would’ve had of getting an NGI verdict would have diminished the second you published this comment lol
Well, that's problematic.
She will appeal for sure.
In her Mind is none of your Schabusiness
Lytton, you are bordering on insane
53.08 she in a daze then snaps out of it. Wonder what's going through her mind.
She's being controlled by demons.
Dude, you don’t wanna know! 😂
The fathers not that bright. If trying to help he is not. Can’t even say how she was affected by mothers death s d his attitude is unnecessary
The apple didn't fall far from the tree.
She didn’t find the verdict funny 😂
does anyone know what her dad did to be in prison?
SA of a minor
do we know when sentencing begins?
They scheduled it to late September I believe (was it Sept 26 @ 9:30 ish)?
I have bpd, and if someone was to sit in front of me and tell me I'm lying I would go crazy. I would not be sitting there smiling.
So we get to see every moment of this trial, but didn’t get to see 30 seconds of the Maxwell Epstein trial. Things that make you go hmmmm
The male psychologist has to be an AI-driven human clone.
LMAO!!! I get you, he’s extremely efficient and an excellent expert witness!
Does anyone know the reason her Dad was incarcerated?
Taylor seemed to have lost those smiles when found guilty.. Praise god for guilt
“Praise god for guilt.”
What an odd statement. We all feel guilt from time to time, so why praise a deity for this apparently unremarkable human emotion? It seems you should condemn god for creating this monster and allowing her to inflict the most heinous torture on an innocent man. Torture that one could only imagine in their worst nightmares. That would make more sense, assuming god is real.
I bet she will be making lot of money in jail.
Shabussiness was born in Evanston, not Chicago
She looks evil.
I thought the same thing.
hows how she cracks up laughing just out of nowhere about a third of the way in from 3.55.51 onwards craycray
was anyone able to make out what she whispering to her attorney? The most I got was "I just want to let them know blah blah blah competency"
Taylor is obviously off her rocker, but she's nowhere near eligible for ngi
It was so obvious she wasnt insane. When all of a sudden she starts having laughing fits and finger gun hand actions leading up to and during the mental evaluation witnesses 😂