This has proved to break Newtons laws..since all generators are inefficient it takes more power to turn the generator than 1 solar panel can produce..but if you had 5 or 6 solar panels equalling 1000 watts or so then maybe the engine can turn and generate enough to turn ....so in other words iu'd have to generate more electricity from the solar panels than the generator will give u back due to friction and inefficiencies etc...this if im understanding what ur wanting to do is some sort of perpetual electric generation...or generating more powerthan u want to put in.....as of yet which is why u don't see any on the market they have not been able to break newtons laws...but hook it all up and try it..thats how u learn and invent.
This has proved to break Newtons laws..since all generators are inefficient it takes more power to turn the generator than 1 solar panel can produce..but if you had 5 or 6 solar panels equalling 1000 watts or so then maybe the engine can turn and generate enough to turn ....so in other words iu'd have to generate more electricity from the solar panels than the generator will give u back due to friction and inefficiencies etc...this if im understanding what ur wanting to do is some sort of perpetual electric generation...or generating more powerthan u want to put in.....as of yet which is why u don't see any on the market they have not been able to break newtons laws...but hook it all up and try it..thats how u learn and invent.
Got mine and was eager to test it out! Ran the output through my bridge rectifier to convert to DC and fed that into a small grid-tied inverter. At LOW rpm (below 50 rpm), she put out great, but there was a problem. She's easy below threshold but, once she starts producing, the torque demand goes WAY UP!! A HAWT with two or three blades will STALL once the torque load comes on. Need a massive torque configuration for a VAWT.
Hey...so sorry no I have not used it as a windmill yet...I had every intention but am currently looking for farmland and will mount it there..(cannot in my subdivision)..I believe it needs to be very high in the air and also 5 blades or more if possible so it has a lot of torque..please try it and let us all know
Good morning, sorry, given your kindness, you would like to ask a question: I have a 36-pole stator of a washing machine, I am wiring it the same as the original but with a 1.50 mm copper wire (the original has a 1.00 mm aluminum wire) to increase the ah, I ask you: at the end of the wiring, how do I determine the watts of the generator? Thank you have a nice day.
Thanks for the answer, very kind, if I understand correctly, having a 1000 watt motor and generating about 20 volts, I would get: 1000 watts divided by 20 volts = 50 amper X 6 hours of charge = 300 amper, tell me, please, if this calculation of mine is right or wrong. Looking forward to your reply, I greet you.
@@st-qp4mr Have you tested the voltage at higher rpm, what i find strange is that they specify power ouput of 480W at 140rpm and only 640W at 1200rpm. I sent them email cause i can't believe there is such extreme non-linear performance.
Grazie per la risposta, molto gentile, se ho ben capito, avendo un motore da 1000 watt e generando circa 20 volt , otterrei: 1000 watt diviso 20 volt = 50 amper X 6 ore di carica = 300 amper, mi dica, per piacere, se questo mio calcolo e giusto o sbagliato. In attesa di una vostra risposta, la saluto.
Hi, I'm not practical in electronics, but I would like to know if this generator is capable of charging batteries for a total of 300 amperes with 640 watts. Thank you.
I'm trying to use it to generate power using a wind turbine, but whenever I try it with a load, the output power becomes almost zero. How much power can you get from it?
I am in the process of finding blades to put with this generator. I live in a city so I have to go with Vertical turbine blades.. However it is rated for 600watts and according to my bench test I usually get .60 volts per rpm. as you see from the test I can easily get it to 60 volts with little effort. However That's with no load!!….It should be much better than Zero Amps tho or volts. According to 600w divided by 60 Volts equal 10 amps. Even under load it shouldn't be zero unless your load is way more than 600w to run. It should charge batteries pretty easy tho.
Yeah that is right I can get the same output voltage without connecting any loads and yes with very small effort, but with load, the generator becomes heavier to rotate. After I did some modification in the power transmission between my generator & my turbine, I got almost 28 watt. My load was 125 ohm power resistor. I tried using smaller resistance but as it requires higher current at the same voltage, the generator becomes unable to generate that current and the voltage drops dramatically and the power as well. I don't know where the problem is exactly. Why isn't it able to generate the required current?
Leon P these frequency generator/motor are one of the most efficient of them all. I don't know the amps you would get at 100rpm, but I can assure you it won't disappoint. especially if your reconfigure the wiring in these for lower voltage and higher amps. As for if you put neo's in these. That's when you get into buying warning signs to put around this generator. these produce SERIOUS POWER.
@@tripplefives1402 Hi Richard, is it an option just to run a single phase? or do you have to run all 3 phases? If all phases are connected to the bridge rectifier, will you get 5.4 amps 216 watts 120v at 250 rpm?
@@st-qp4mr Can you explain what it says in specs power output is 460W at 140rpm and only 640W at 1,200rpm? img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/2183f35a-054a-4199-8432-f9a44afbcfaf/downloads/1cac07la1_874980.jpg?ver=1580405058537
some late info. by now you may know that when voltage is measured there is NO lenz-force braking, at the magnets; as there WILL BE when the pma is connected into a low-impedance power circuit. during Design, this condition Should be simulated, at least once; by shorting the pma output. THEN the rotor will not be so easy to turn. then, you will understand where the ''work' in the system is 'being done'. see the linked stator diagram, and Understand that this is a Purpose Designed Multi-pole, THREE phase motor, with a Matching rotor config. conclusion: in the absence of Major Mods, this motor should be use AS A MOTOR. see link for a NORMAL, 3-phase alternator stator; not including the rotor. (i would suggest that you get or make a (normal 3-phase) pma-conversion.) googletranslate see a swap-able pma rotor. stator - each phase should consist of THREE, equally spaced coils, connected in series lgechupacabra.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/standard-wire.gif scoraigwind.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/coils91.png i.ebayimg.com/images/i/322236783011-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
Please redo this test when the rectifier is connected via a power meter to a good size battery @ 24 or 48V. The open circuit test you are doing is completely meaningless and just for sales but it would be interesting to see what the 'real world' low wind power output is...
can direct solar panel spin dc 755 motor to turn smart drive generator without battery
This has proved to break Newtons laws..since all generators are inefficient it takes more power to turn the generator than 1 solar panel can produce..but if you had 5 or 6 solar panels equalling 1000 watts or so then maybe the engine can turn and generate enough to turn ....so in other words iu'd have to generate more electricity from the solar panels than the generator will give u back due to friction and inefficiencies etc...this if im understanding what ur wanting to do is some sort of perpetual electric generation...or generating more powerthan u want to put in.....as of yet which is why u don't see any on the market they have not been able to break newtons laws...but hook it all up and try it..thats how u learn and invent.
This has proved to break Newtons laws..since all generators are inefficient it takes more power to turn the generator than 1 solar panel can produce..but if you had 5 or 6 solar panels equalling 1000 watts or so then maybe the engine can turn and generate enough to turn ....so in other words iu'd have to generate more electricity from the solar panels than the generator will give u back due to friction and inefficiencies etc...this if im understanding what ur wanting to do is some sort of perpetual electric generation...or generating more powerthan u want to put in.....as of yet which is why u don't see any on the market they have not been able to break newtons laws...but hook it all up and try it..thats how u learn and invent.
thank you
Got mine and was eager to test it out! Ran the output through my bridge rectifier to convert to DC and fed that into a small grid-tied inverter.
At LOW rpm (below 50 rpm), she put out great, but there was a problem. She's easy below threshold but, once she starts producing, the torque demand goes WAY UP!!
A HAWT with two or three blades will STALL once the torque load comes on. Need a massive torque configuration for a VAWT.
Yes I would recommend a 5 to 7 blade horizontal axis wind setup..that would give you the proper torque
Did you eventually get this alternator working as a wind turbine? I want to buy one but don’t want to waste money if it didn’t work for you.
Hey...so sorry no I have not used it as a windmill yet...I had every intention but am currently looking for farmland and will mount it there..(cannot in my subdivision)..I believe it needs to be very high in the air and also 5 blades or more if possible so it has a lot of torque..please try it and let us all know
WERY NICE
This is great. Thanks for the bench test. ~ WindGenKits
Thanks for the reply, very kind, I take this opportunity to wish you a happy New Year to you and your family.
Good morning, sorry, given your kindness, you would like to ask a question: I have a 36-pole stator of a washing machine, I am wiring it the same as the original but with a 1.50 mm copper wire (the original has a 1.00 mm aluminum wire) to increase the ah, I ask you: at the end of the wiring, how do I determine the watts of the generator? Thank you have a nice day.
The formula for watts is Watts = Amps x Volts. More info and calculators online just google and plug in your Volts generated times Amps
@@st-qp4mr grazie, sempre molto gentile, a presto.
Thanks for the answer, very kind, if I understand correctly, having a 1000 watt motor and generating about 20 volts, I would get: 1000 watts divided by 20 volts = 50 amper X 6 hours of charge = 300 amper, tell me, please, if this calculation of mine is right or wrong. Looking forward to your reply, I greet you.
yes correct
@@st-qp4mr Have you tested the voltage at higher rpm, what i find strange is that they specify power ouput of 480W at 140rpm and only 640W at 1200rpm. I sent them email cause i can't believe there is such extreme non-linear performance.
Grazie per la risposta, molto gentile, se ho ben capito, avendo un motore da 1000 watt e generando circa 20 volt , otterrei: 1000 watt diviso 20 volt = 50 amper X 6 ore di carica = 300 amper, mi dica, per piacere, se questo mio calcolo e giusto o sbagliato. In attesa di una vostra risposta, la saluto.
Does it cog under load or when charging batteries?
Hi, I'm not practical in electronics, but I would like to know if this generator is capable of charging batteries for a total of 300 amperes with 640 watts. Thank you.
Yes 640 watts divided by an avg of 36volts that the generator would produce will charge 300amps in around 17hrs.
From what I know, with these models isn't 1 volt equal to 1RPM?
Richard Vaughn OK, thanks
Where did you buy the Rectifier
Thanks
I got it here: amzn.to/3cwTxHf
Um its not on a load. I have one when its on a load it doesnt turn
I'm trying to use it to generate power using a wind turbine, but whenever I try it with a load, the output power becomes almost zero.
How much power can you get from it?
I am in the process of finding blades to put with this generator. I live in a city so I have to go with Vertical turbine blades.. However it is rated for 600watts and according to my bench test I usually get .60 volts per rpm. as you see from the test I can easily get it to 60 volts with little effort. However That's with no load!!….It should be much better than Zero Amps tho or volts. According to 600w divided by 60 Volts equal 10 amps. Even under load it shouldn't be zero unless your load is way more than 600w to run. It should charge batteries pretty easy tho.
Yeah that is right I can get the same output voltage without connecting any loads and yes with very small effort, but with load, the generator becomes heavier to rotate.
After I did some modification in the power transmission between my generator & my turbine, I got almost 28 watt.
My load was 125 ohm power resistor. I tried using smaller resistance but as it requires higher current at the same voltage, the generator becomes unable to generate that current and the voltage drops dramatically and the power as well.
I don't know where the problem is exactly. Why isn't it able to generate the required current?
i need to know how many amps it makes at 100 rpm too. and second question: what if i replace those magnets with n52's?
Leon P
these frequency generator/motor are one of the most efficient of them all. I don't know the amps you would get at 100rpm, but I can assure you it won't disappoint. especially if your reconfigure the wiring in these for lower voltage and higher amps.
As for if you put neo's in these. That's when you get into buying warning signs to put around this generator. these produce SERIOUS POWER.
@@tripplefives1402 Hi Richard, is it an option just to run a single phase? or do you have to run all 3 phases? If all phases are connected to the bridge rectifier, will you get 5.4 amps 216 watts 120v at 250 rpm?
It's hard to believe it generates such big voltage with ferrites, only 9 coils and such low rpm.
@@tripplefives1402 I read here and on their site that magnets are ferrites. I know it is low current.
If it was neodymiums those 600 Watts might go up up to ten fold.
Can the pma power a complete house
No..not 640 watts....ud need kilowatts to do that..but it can charge batts...and it can be tied to a grid tie inverter
st0720 thankz much
Did you build a turbine with it?
No not yet. Gonna have to be a summer project. 19 degrees F where I am today
@@st-qp4mr Can you explain what it says in specs power output is 460W at 140rpm and only 640W at 1,200rpm? img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/2183f35a-054a-4199-8432-f9a44afbcfaf/downloads/1cac07la1_874980.jpg?ver=1580405058537
I don’t understand the term ‘Stator is rated at 640 watts continuous as a motor’
it's called FP 640..for 640 w rated motor..watch the specs here: ua-cam.com/video/Xi0OnG1THRE/v-deo.html
Voltage is not amperage :(
some late info. by now you may know that when voltage is measured there is NO lenz-force braking, at the magnets; as there WILL BE when the pma is connected into a low-impedance power circuit. during Design, this condition Should be simulated, at least once; by shorting the pma output. THEN the rotor will not be so easy to turn. then, you will understand where the ''work' in the system is 'being done'. see the linked stator diagram, and Understand that this is a Purpose Designed Multi-pole, THREE phase motor, with a Matching rotor config. conclusion: in the absence of Major Mods, this motor should be use AS A MOTOR. see link for a NORMAL, 3-phase alternator stator; not including the rotor. (i would suggest that you get or make a (normal 3-phase) pma-conversion.) googletranslate see a swap-able pma rotor. stator - each phase should consist of THREE, equally spaced coils, connected in series
lgechupacabra.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/standard-wire.gif
scoraigwind.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/coils91.png
i.ebayimg.com/images/i/322236783011-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
How much amps?
Please redo this test when the rectifier is connected via a power meter to a good size battery @ 24 or 48V. The open circuit test you are doing is completely meaningless and just for sales but it would be interesting to see what the 'real world' low wind power output is...