A Car Journey from South London through Kent in 1964
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Don't like the music? I have to use Royalty free music on UA-cam or it will be taken down!
Take a trip through Kent and Surrey driving along the A20 road, driving through Sittingbourne, Coulsdon North, Crayford and other towns in the 1960's
Plus Thornton Heath and Crystal Palace also Redhill, Hooley, Bexleyheath Broadway, Forest Hill, London Road, past Devonshire Road and Coulsdon Surrey.
Everything seemed to have an elegance about it, the cars, buses, lamp standards, even the road signs.
I like the road signs, I prefer them to the ones we have now.
The blend into the environment way better than the modern ones which ironically were introduced in 1964.
@PeckyThePigeon what’s racist here, I can’t see any racist comments at all from me or Chiswick Gooner.
@PeckyThePigeon just ridiculous.
@PeckyThePigeon shush it
@PeckyThePigeon mong
Beautiful England!!! This footage really captured the true Spirit of the 'Good Old Days'...
This is one reason why I love watching old classics like the original Randall & Hopkirk- - - all the 60's cars I grew up with!
And practically every vehicle was UK made !
Wish I could of been alive back then
Matthew Lund unions = communists .
That changed once we realized how terrible UK cars were and how much better all the foreign made ones were.
Andy Bush not so much , I remember the early Japanese cars rotted like hell , Italian cars too .
@@ottosump3356 yes, same here (Australia), but the Japanese rapidly improved. The Italians not so rapid...., the Alfa and Lancia were notorious for rusting
I was 21 in 1964 but out in the Far East when this was made. For the previous two years on a ship being converted in Chatham. Good memories of before we gave it all away.
who gave what away?
Blame Maggie for this
78 Well done Sir ! 👍
@@spidyman8853 hahaha labour are even worse they would kick us out and put the rest of the world in the UK.
Quite amazing - actually saw my Dad’s shop and we lived above it. Incredible footage - thanks whoever posted it - it’s brought back memories
Hi Stephen, I'm so glad that you enjoyed my home movie, great that you saw your Dad's shop.
Love watching these old films…. Just ordinary people going about their lives…. Someday it,l be us all and future generations looking back 👍
Wish the traffic was still like that.
Don't we all?????
Nothing but British made cars ......oh how times have changed
I think its all about what you're used to , iwas 14 when this was made , we lived in Croydon and i can remember my dad often coming home and complaining about the traffic , "more cars every year , terrible traffic jams" . . thats how he saw it at the time .
Yeah when there were about 7000 deaths on the road each year compared to 1700 now. Makes you weep. Bloody politicians ruining everything.
Anglus Patria it is Irony not sarcasm
Nice bit of Elgar would have suited rather than this dystopian electro music!
Completely agree. I kept thinking something was going to leap out and squash the car.
Yeah, that doom laden music, I thought the Bomb musta dropped for sure in THAT timeline...
the music was going cheap as Dr Who (Tom Baker) no longer needed it.
Some John Ireland would have been perfect. This music ruins a lovely video.
@laser325 Great idea! I opened a second window and played the Beatles "Ticket to Ride". Great.
And no M25!! Lovely era, my era when England was England and things were less complicated.
Now it’s all men showing their flaunting their backs and women licking the pavement, hate London now:((
@@harleyhartley3168 what do you mean by men flaunting their backs?
Jonathan Adeyemo i mean women licking the pavement sounds way weirder but okay
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LOL not if you had to drive anywhere near London. My god the south circular was a bloody nightmare. Don’t get me started on Hanger Lane!
Hey look , I can see things that were once made and owned in England .
it's still owned by england but not by u..
Nice Scots name you have Bruce 😜
Corbyn will make us great again. I mean for the first time!!
Keith William MacHendry Aye !!!
and looks tired and tatty. Thank God it's 2019. No wonder my parents didn't wish to return after the war and stayed in Malaysia.
Thank god i was born in 1942. Ive definitely seen the best of Britain. Bought a brand new British made Morris 1100. 692 quid on the road.
Yes but your wages were £5 per week!
It's what I didn't see that pleased me the most.
Roger Onslow yes indeed 👍🏻
Yes, spot on. I used to live in South London but had had enough of the "changes" & moved 40 miles south 15 years ago & now live in England again, for the moment!
@@buxvan '30yrs from now everywhere will be like London' they keep telling us, well, if they carry on it will. try to get any kids out or they'll not be safe.
Yep. Rapidly becoming a 3rd world country.
@@beenbeen8679 nobody is safe from our kids,cant wait till they start school.
absolute heaven, who would have thought traffic could be so interesting, I was actually alive when this was filmed...seems like another planet, time someone invented a time machine '64 will be fine by me !
You're right. I was born in 1964 , but I can hardly credit it because the world as it was then seems so remote.
I’d set my time machine to 1945. Then, on new year’s eve 1966, I’d set it to go back to 1949 again.
Opening shots: services on the new M2. As kids, what a thrill to use the covered way over the motorway. If I remember correctly there were tables there too.
The good old days. When we still had room to breathe. People drove sensibly. No need for speed cameras.
Yep we have an additional 17million oinks since then !!
Drink driver galore!
Road deaths in 1966 : 7985 , in 2019: 1752, with considerably more cars on the road. Not that sensibly, it seems.
The 60s were tougher times. People get too nostalgic.
I accept that death rates are now lower though this may not be due to better driving. Larger, safer cars, lower speed limits, more motorways and dual-carriageways, speed cameras and other factors do not necessarily = better driving.
This is great! @ 3:51 we are about to go on to the South Circular Road A205, (Top of Lordship Lane) it, then jumps to Forest Hill, London Road, past Devonshire Road @ 4:20 where Queens Builders use to be before you go under the train bridge with Saint Johns Church (Church of Scotland) in the background sadly pulled down in the early 80's. Would love to have seen the old beautiful Forest Hill Station before they leveled that as well. It then Jumps to Crystal Palace (Upper Sydenham) A 212 were the big TV Arial and park is opposite the Shell garage. Continues to drive down to Lower Sydenham, past Jews Walk where the mini is trying to pull out you can see St. Bartholomew's Church on the left and Cobbs Corner and the Greyhound pub would be at the end of the road. It then Jumps to the back roads of Sydenham I think, then suddenly we are in Elham and Lee A20/ A210. The music sounds like it could come from "The Long Good Friday" or a similar gritty British film, really lovely to see this film thanks for posting.
Thanks for that. Being a north londoner it's all a foreign country to me, but I figured that the journey wasn't one simple route. Absorbing footage all the same and so much minutiae to consider.
@@tonysplodge44 You're welcome Tony.
Good run down, will have to watch it again now.
@@oceanfloor258 Thanks David, I know most of it, but Forest Hill was my area, the fun I use to have as a kid, how I miss those days.
Circus Midgets Do you think that after it goes by Jews Walk it then goes down Laurie Park Rd, and then up Border towards the roundabout at Laurie Park Crescent towards he Chelsea estate, not tottering sure, but it maybe?
I was born in this year....love watching all the old film footage from this era though, as I always think to myself that my nan, mum and dad were alive. Wish sometimes I could go back to when I was little and maybe do some things differently.
violetblue
Me too, and grew up in some of these areas. I haven’t lived in England for 30 years now but amazingly recognised some of the shopping parades, and not a single pound shop in sight - how things have changed.
Someone should recreate this journey, would be cool to see the difference
great idea!
The film would be about 5 hours long...
Would be really cool..the cultural enrichment, chicken shops, police cordons for fhe latest stabbing, speed cameras, lycra pricks on bikes, and ear podded zombies staring into phones.
no thats the very very last thing it would be.
Oy! I'm a lycra prick on a bike!
Recognise Purley way & the Chimneys at Valley Park (Ikea), London Road A205 just after Hornimans Museum,. Video has been chopped a bit as after the A205 shoot is Crystal Palace Parade A212, Westwood Hill,. After that a little bit disorientated but appears to be a small shot of backstreet Sydenham then the A205 Westhorne avenue, Rochester Way, Welling Way, & onwards to Crayford Station.
timestamp please. Trying to find Sydenham.
Amos Oke video goes down Westwood Hill and past Jews Walk, then I think a little bit of Laurie Park Road and Border road, leading
up to Laurie Park ave.......I Think so anyway.
Back in the good old days when smoking was good for you and no-one needed seatbelts.
It would take a lot longer now..
Beautiful , the good old days ,,, and not a pothole in sight
A really Great Video. Love watching anything about the 60s. The best decade ever!!!!!!!!!!!☺
Hi Tina, I'm glad that you enjoyed my movie, I have quite a lot of film from the 60's on my channel, check out the 'Billericay movies' and Carnaby st.
Mackenzie Rough I've seen the Billericay and Carnaby Street videos, both were excellent !!!!!!!!!☺
Tina Maher Take a look at this:- ua-cam.com/video/omP0R6na0YE/v-deo.html
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Its nice to see the British weather hasn't changed very much lol.
Well that is something us Brits can always rely on, clouds and rain!
@@molossergirl2 July was it ?
Wonder why so many of us keep viewing the old cine films, of a time we look back on with so much fondness, and often wish we could have stayed there ! Yet if we had been asked at the time, do you like everything as it is, or do you want to grow up in the future, I'm sure we would have said the latter !! We can't win can we.
I had to turn the music off, but otherwise great!
I have to use Royalty Free music to avoid getting a copyright strike on UA-cam, what do you think of this version? ua-cam.com/video/xn_B56VUYo4/v-deo.html
@@mackenzierough I prefer the music in the 2nd version! It's better.
mattski73 me too
@@mackenzierough 2nd version, perfect, suits this sort of film from that period.
@@gilgameshofuruk4060 Thanks.
As a kid the family used to drive to Cornwall in the late 60's
Great holidays on the beaches near Lands End.
It was a 12 to 14 hour drive.
Difficult to image now, no motorways and just a few duel carriageways.
Going through towns, traffic lights, round abouts etc.
There was always a massive traffic jam near Liskard.
So regular that stalls used to sent up selling food and drinks during the peak summer season.
Funny thing is is that once you get through Penzance today the areas barely changed at all.
Penzance, Liskeard. Beautiful South West places.
We used to holiday in Cornwall in the sixties, dad used to insist on leaving home (North London) at between 3&4 am to miss the trafic we used to arrive in Looe at about teatime and spend the next two days recovering from the journey. It shows how much roads have improved before I retired as an HGV driver last year I used to do Wembley to Exeter and back in a night in about 7.5 hours driving time.
@@philnewstead5388 we went by coach London Victoria to Ilfracombe...10 hours...the good old days!
"Hogs back " was always a problem too .
Oh, I wish I could be transported back in time. Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end....
Ha, ha, I used to sing that after a few beers.
That brought back memories. My parents drove a Morris Oxford in those days. Nice to see that some things haven't changed - pedestrians wandering obliviously across the road, just yards from a clearly-marked zebra crossing.
Lovely film. Loved seeing many places that looked like the Kent I knew a few years later. Love the cars, busses, shops & street signs.
I recognised many of the areas, especially the second half. The Well Hall roundabout, the old Rochester Way, Bexleyheath Broadway and the finish in Crayford next to the Timpson’s Coach Depot. 👍
An era when even the trees looked cool.
Blimey this is life in South London.. not Blade Runner.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just watch these on mute while listening to TMS haha
Basically NO IDEA.
Probably from the Caribbean.
Correction: "Inspired by..."
How could something so cool change so quickly to what nightmare we have today it's like a different Planet
Politicians sold us out for greed and let imigrants invade our country without our permission to do so and when we spoke up and tried to defend it we was called racists
Couldnt AGREE MORE.👍👍😉😉
Nightmare? The hell you talking about?
@@williamrisbridger60like more pandemics, wild fires, plastic pollution, floods, tornadoes or earth quakes, people being st@bbed
25 million fewer people really sums it all up lovely compared to today except for the medical advances it was undoubtedly better for those of us that lived through it.
I was 13 then wish I called time travel and tell them about all this bollocks now
Oh yes...
Absolutely
priceless
And bring back some of those lovely cars while you're at it!
@@johncartwright8154 those would be the ones you died in if you hit anything? At the beginning there's a Vauxall 101 estate. I was surprised to see one NOT up on axles stands with a f*cked diff. Interesting to see them (especially the Comma 'boxer' lorries) but there were very few I'd want to drive again.
Before my time but somehow feels like a breath of fresh air. Imagine a world with no internet, no mobile phones, no social media and no constant talk of brexit....
you are on a form of social Media for pities sake. People back then got annoyed at and were scared of the tec of the time, TV for example. People like you were scared of TV programmes and computer generated bills etc. They were on about the opposite of Brexit, joining the EU
@pbr streetgang , agreed. And the Europe we were joining, promised a 'Continental' lifestyle, no longer Victorian England. With hopes of Wine and cigarettes as cheap as the French.
We wern't part of the EEC then.didn't have to worry about. Brexit.
@pbr streetgang thats right brother.
There ai'nt anything wrong with having Technology, The problem has been That It's been over used way To much.
Thank you for this of course. My sadly now late parents came from Croydon, so would have seen some of this I am sure too. They moved to Dartford in 1965 when they were married so too. I was born in 1968 and live there now then today as well. Well done too!
I remember when you could park a car, and drive through London, and even finding a parking space in a motorway stop. (And when there were no McFats or BurgerFats.
and car parking was free in many towns
No BMWs or AUDIs pushing in cutting you up, ignoring road signs & markings, overtaking on the inside, racing through red lights, refusing to give way & parking anywhere they want without consideration for anyone else. Driving must have been less stressful & more enjoyable then.
No SUV as well.
How right you are sir. Those types make driving unbearable nowadays.
I was only a tiny lad then but my uncle used to take me out in a bright blue Austin Cambridge. He was a driving instructor and so pretty level headed. This was a strange time with more powerful cars coming on to the road still inhabited by the old upright black cars like Ford Prefects chugging about. I can remember one event with such a car popping along at 40 mph holding up a convoy of other more 'modern' cars on a country road. Believe me, the stress was there in shed loads even then!!!! ;-D
Ha ha we had a mini in 64, used to moan about Ford drivers !
I take your general point, but if people are overtaking you on the inside, that must mean there is space for you to move to the inside so that people can overtake you on the outside.
I wasn't even born at this time, I'm London born and raised and I want this London back!
i bet you do
@@tommillar2821 At this rate this country is heading straight back to Dickenasian times the future is going to get grim and grimmer trust me.
I bet you're not. Probably a Essex boy
@@pyeltd.5457 Should Essex include East London as it's borderline?
I wasn't born in London, but I ALSO want this London back, part of England, and populated by English people. If I had my way, I would send every foreigner OUT, and back to the shitholes they came from. Every single one of them.
WOW! All the old cars, the Routemaster busses and how quiet the roads were!
pre Routmaster RM, Route Traveler RT,
Just about the most inappropriate music that could have been chosen.
Yes, I have to use Royalty free music on UA-cam or it will be taken down, take a look at this as this is my preferred music track! vimeo.com/480679284/f2c26db065
@@mackenzierough
Much better. I likes me a bit of Canned Heat.
... do you know what 'mute' means?
@@michael_mouse
Wow that's profound. I happen to appreciate it when a piece of old film is put together with music that augments the visual experience. It didn't happen here.
@@michael_mouse mute
(mjuːt )
Word forms: plural, 3rd person singular present tense mutes , present participle muting , past tense, past participle muted
1. ADJECTIVE
Someone who is mute is silent for a particular reason and does not speak.
He was mute, distant, and indifferent.
I threw a mute look of appeal at Paula.
Synonyms: close-mouthed, silent, taciturn, tongue-tied More Synonyms of mute
Mute is also an adverb.
He could watch her standing mute by the phone.
He sat mute, speechless with ecstasy, gazing into the sky.
mutely ADVERB [ADVERB with verb]
I crouched by him and grasped his hand, mutely offering what comfort I could.
2. ADJECTIVE
Someone who is mute is unable to speak.
[old-fashioned, offensive]
Marianna, the duke's daughter, became mute after a shock.
3. VERB
If someone mutes something such as their feelings or their activities, they reduce the strength or intensity of them.
The corruption does not seem to have muted the country's prolonged economic boom. [VERB noun]
I'm shocked by all the racism that I see in these comments. How low have we fallen. I lived in this area (Bromley) at this time. England was in the 60's a great time but we paid for it with a serious depression afterwards. Great to see those cars again.
The days of dial-up telephones and only 3 channels on a black and white TV set that you had to bang on the top to get a better picture!
Happier times.
Really. Some people are hooked on the drug that is the past thinking it was this glorious haven. Miserable lot. I bet if you were to go back to the 1960s & ask people what life is like in the present they would say that it was better in the 1930s. The past always seems better. It's a fake illussion.
Shut Up wanting a nationalist government. That when things get even worse when you have bigoted nutters in suits occupying seats in Parliament. If you like the past so much why are even using modern technology. It’s a myth the past was better. Britain like all the West is a capitalistic society. There are those who don’t like this but the opportunities to make money are endless, which in results in a better life quality. You Bastards want the best of both worlds you like invading other countries & then want a Puritan regime in London. Not to mention all that three lions the shirt crap. Can’t even win more than one World Cup.
@Mike Oxbigger you are probably the most rational British person I've seen. Yes, Brits are becoming the minority, thanks to this "progressive" liberal politics of the West. It's just disgusting. Sadly, rational people like you are usually called racist and intolerant. Fuck the immigrants, they never brough anything good.
12 years old at the time, remember it well, dismal in winter, hot in summer. Super 8 cine film without sound, not a GoPro or Charity shop in sight ! Magic ( or was it ? )
Gosh this takes me back, did I recognised the Purley Way and the South Circular Road around Catford? The other noticeable thing was the number of BMC cars on the road, plus I'd forgotten how light the traffic was back in the '60's. I used to live in Streatham in the 60's I dread to think what that looks like now, no doubt completely ruined from the nice suburb it used to be.
Yes, around 3:00 you can see the Ikea chimneys.
My Father would stuff newspapers anywhere there was a draft in the car
When himself and his mates would travel to play rugby in Kent back in the 60's
We lived near Brands Hatch in the 70's, it was amazing, with the F1 being held there at the time
I lived in Devonshire rd as a child, 65 - 74. We didn't have much, but I was happy with it. My mum worked in hornimans and the golden griddle ( now puzza hut I think ). My nan lived in Church rise.
Before the politicians ruined everything.
True?
So true.
i know i was there oh for a time machine !!!
Remarkable that people think it was better back then. It was a Socialist nation then, with free education, fully funded NHS, council housing, nationalised public transport and rising living standards. The only politician offering that today is Corbyn. Makes ya laugh don't it?
@@freebornjohn6876 How old are you?
Gosh, from the year before I was born. Farthing Corner (now Medway Services) on the M2 has such an empty car park and the architecture looks so fresh (looks jaded now...).
same here.
Buildings then looked so much better with the original windows they were built with rather than the modern cheap plastic ones.
True, as long as you did not mind ice on the inside of your bedroom window on a cold winter morning.
I much prefer doouble glazing. No maintenance either.
What on earth, plastic? Never seen that before
lots of familiar places, having grown up in Purley and been to school in coulsdon - there is the top end of Purley way with what became the IKEA chimneys on the left at 3:00 - great to think that someone was filming the everyday journeys in a time when it was more complicated to do so....agree the music is off kilter but I can live with that....interesting to actually recognise how much has stayed the same in terms of buildings and roads, the density of occupation/traffic being the most notable change.
nice shot of lordship lane where i lived, going past the old grove tavern opposite cox's walk! brought back memories!
Wonderful to see empty roads and all the British cars with individual styling and character. One thing though, the opening shot seemed to be the M2 with an exit to the A249. I don't think the M2 opened until the early 70s
Look how clean and smooth the roads are!!!
I was born in 1961, I remember cars like that. 95% were British made, you might have had the odd vw beetle or Mercedes, that's it. Apart from that, it's by in large recognisable today. Just a few more modern buildings thrown up since.
95% of the babies were British made...
I found a Fiat at 2:16 and a VW Van at 4:14.
A brilliant clip for Morris Minor spotters.
I lived in Eltham in 64, some bits of the movie look familiar, but I would love to know what is where.
Incredible that someone took the trouble to record this, and pay to have the Super 8 developed.
great footage. the year before I was born, I remember a lot of those cars being around as a kid.
turned into fridges and pedal bins
11 years old and traveled most of that route many times with my Dad👏👏👏
This is what civilized society looked like back when England was England. ❤️🇬🇧
Agreed. The cameraman wasn't stabbed, his/her camera wasn't stolen by a guy on a moped, his/her daughter wasn't gang-raped by the Religion of Peace and nobody accused him/her of being waycist or transphobic for being white and failing to apologise for every bad thing in the entire history of the world. Apart from the risk of getting cancer from passive smoking and dentistry without anaesthetics, I WANT THIS UK BACK!
@@raypurchase801 You sound like a racist but judging by your comments you probably embrace it so good on you pal.
@@kingimage01 You're right. Every bad thing in the history of the world is the fault of white people. London is better for being less than 50% white. We should embrace stabbings and crime as a demonstration of our rich diversity. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. Definitely.
Ray Purchase who is saying every bad thing in the history of the world is white people’s fault? That’s just something people like you say to make themselves feel like victims.
The British need to be proud of their history, you ruled the world!
4.47 when the bus pulled straight out nothing's changed there. Thats when England was English....
Here here?
Before we were invaded by Islam.
@@paulyflyer8154 the days when we were safe?
Yes that was Crystal Palace Parade
Three years before acts of gross indecency was made legal. From next year it will be a mandatory part of the school curriculum.
I was born in 1964 but at one year old would not remember what the world was like back then. Amazing to see.
I recognised Forest Hill and Crystal Palace.
I think I also saw Eltham and Croydon (Purely Way)
Yes, I think around 5:50 is Eltham, ........looked like the Progress Estate by the roundabout at ''Woolwich End'' of Well Hall Road, ....where (IIRC - it's over years😉 ) the A2 Rochester way joined Well Hall Rd.
@Chi Sao wing tsun that’s a very racist and wildly inaccurate assumption.
@love Forever fashion Crystal Palace was never in Kent. A London Surrey suburb.
So interesting watching this , feeling very nostalgic. I spotted Well Hall Road in Eltham.
love Forever fashion Crystal Palace is NOT in Kent. Do your research before comments 🙄
Great to see all the british cars, even if they were unreliable. They were still ours. What Thatcher and Blair have done to us is unforgiveable.
BRENDUS, ADD BEECHING, MARPLES AND CASTLE TO THE LIST UK DESTRUCTION CRIMINALS !!!!.
British cars were never 'unreliable'. That's just part of the 'Down with Britain' mentality which started in the Sneering Seventies.
@@peterbuckley265 Yes, absolutely, but I didn't want to get too political. Sure they have a lot to answer for including the deindustrialisation of Britain, and the motorways that were never built at a time when they could have been built without too much displacement. A good deal of Beechings closures have been reopened (over 40 and dozens of stations), with 13 more lines earmarkedand and many Heritage Railways are now running on other closed sections as well. You can't get a MkII Cortina for Love or Money.
@@bingola45 Yes agreed, and maybe it was a question more about rust and fiddly things like indicators, wipers and locks? I had an escort for years and loved it, but the starting motor always gave trouble. I was younger then so didn't mind getting under it, or shoving it. I have a Honda CRV now [we exported them to Japan!], British made, and absolutely nothing has gone wrong with it in 17 years, zero rust, zero emissions, and still going strong, starting first time, every time. So yes, brits can make the best, whatever about the badge. I don't have a 'down with Britain' syndrome, rather the opposite, but I think cars from Leyland in the 70s were not a good buy, whereas Ford were much better.
@@erroly100 I remember the 120Y, and lots of then came in orange colour. They just kept going and going.
The Morris Minor driver parked in two spaces @ 0.06 is a future Mercedes Benz owner
For the nostalgics here... those British made cars kept breaking down all the time. My family's first two cars were Morris Minors.
Year I joined the Guards at Pirbright, second barracks was Caterham, the former Guards Depot. Someone please turn the clocks back!
Streets are spotless impressive
How things have changed?
@keefie80 Right... And how have you come to that conclusion?
@@TheUberJulian Thunberg took keefie's childhood away mate..that's what he's saying.. he's got a point, in his own alternative universe where England was free of rubbish, kids wore NHS specs and you could leave your front door open. I miss the Krays mate I really do
I was 7 in 1964, at the time living at Brentwood, going to school at Upminster in Essex
i counted at least 13 morris minors. love those KEEP LEFT signs
I owned one of those 1963 Jaguar Mark (MK) II 3.8 liters that we passed in the film. No airbags or shoulder belt, but it had awesome fog lamps and was it fast.
Social History - wonderful. Brings back memories.
Early 1960s - upside, roads relatively free of traffic (Only 5 million cars in UK then ) and pot holes and the scarring caused by the installation of North Sea Gas pipes. Downside - Still quite a bit of air pollution by the look of it, despite the 1956 Clean Air Act - I remember car journies in London in the winter fogs of '63, you could only move foward if the passenger side door was propped open to view the curb !
As was posted earlier, someone needs to do a then and now. Good project for a proper TV unit -usually the best you get on this front is the London to Brighton on a Southern Region electric train.
Well... Look at England (London) today - almost no English people left... Sad and disturbing...
@Blackporsche roadster I was born just after this video - May '64. I left the UK 25 years ago to live in The Netherlands. I went back to London many, many years after studying there and it had changed so much in terms of the people. I prefer London today than what it was in the late '80 during my time there.
Svetlin Dimitrov
22 countries
Britain has invaded all but 22 countries. Of the current 200 nations in the world, the British have invaded all but 22 of them. The lucky 22 include Sweden, Luxembourg, Mongolia, Bolivia, and Belarus. Of 200 nations, Britain has invaded 178. What planet are you on?
@@erroly100 I didn't know this, but to honest I'm not surprised.
@@erroly100 What utter nonsense you spout
What a ridicules comment..
Although an East Londoner, I recognised the M2, Purley Way, Rochester way, Crystal Palace, Forest Hill, possibly Lorship Lane & Eltham?
And Coulsdon where I grew up around this time. Strange continuity though.
I believe a part of this film features the Purley Way at the IKEA “flyover” at 3:00.
Yes can recognise IKEA towers or the old Croydon power station. A23 then Thornton heath cemetery.
I lived in Thornton Heath then, and I can remember the overhead lighting strung across the roads
That's what threw me and I'm 65 and have lived in S E London/Kent Suburbs all my life :)
6.42 is Crayford. Before that, Bexleyheath clock tower & before that westhorne ave/Rochester way eltham
Stu Witten yes, went past the Progress estate in Eltham, I lived there in the late 80’s/early 90’s
The music sounds like some police manhunt show
I have to use Royalty free music on UA-cam or it will be taken down, take a look at this as this is my preferred music track! vimeo.com/480679284/f2c26db065
I grew up in the 80s in south London (mainly Croydon but my grandparents lived between Dulwich and Peckham) and I remember the old-style road signs from that period - in this video the only new-style ones are on the M2. I think the last few old signs must have been cleared out in the last 20yrs. On the A217 near where my aunt lives, there's a cross roads sign which is old-style with capital letters but the new Transport font that they put up when the old one wore out or maybe got knocked down - it looks funny.
I recognised Thornton Heath and Crystal Palace out of that lot. Growing up as a Millwall fan in Palace supporting area was a good laugh back in those days.
What time in the video?
4.27 to 4.51 is Crystal Palace - Crystal Palace Parade with a No.3 bus coming up College Rd. and turning into C.P. Parade.I can't see any parts of Thornton Heath I recognise,to be honest
This must have been January - March 1964. I was born between Birmingham and Coventry, May 1964. I can still remember some of those models of cars shown on this vid as a very young pre school kid.
It's interesting to see just how modern it looked back in 1964. Not really all that different to nowadays, just less traffic.
Oh" to be seven again ! great 60's film. my favourite car back then was the E type Jag, and the mk 2.Still saving up for one,🥰
No yellow lines on high street no pot holes
Prime vintage banger material in that clip!
I was born in 64 in Leeds. This could have been anywhere in the uk. No diversity and safe streets, we will never get this back. ☹️
Boohoo
pbr streetgang it’s only what I expected tbh. 👍
pbr streetgang Racists don’t like facts so any facts I presented here as a rebuttal wouldn’t make any difference. I’ll just take pleasure in your irritation with diversity.
A2 Sittingbourne turn off in Kent, Purley Way, Forest Hill, Yorkshire Grey roundabout,Wellhall roundabout onto Rochester way all in South East London.
crap music totally mismatched to the subject
Not even of the era.
@@gavinreid5387 Perhaps some shadows or Beatles, or if you're a bit lively, The Stones?
@@23rdjunea couple of number one singles from 1964 with a travel theme
Chuck Berry :No particular place to go.
Beach Boys.: I get around.
@@gavinreid5387 Excellent! :)
Farthing corner services (as it was once commonly referred to) has changed a bit
I lived on Bexley. Sister lived in Crayford. I'll have to see it a few times to try to work out where I am. With that music I thought we my see the Krays pop up.
I have to use Royalty free music on UA-cam or it will be taken down, take a look at this as this is my preferred music track! vimeo.com/480679284/f2c26db065
I remember the last 7 miles of The M2 being built to Dartford in THe 1960's and now live by The A2 on the edge of South London/North Kent.
My mum dad and self went from Nottingham down A1 through central London and down through Kent in 1949 and 1950, looked a bit different then. Still the old trams in London I recall and bomb sites!
Lovely video. Know the stretch at 2:40 like the back of my hand. Grew up here.and can recognise my house and road.
Pukka bit of film, just as it was when I was a kid ... I was from the East End of London but was often south of the river as we had relatives living in Kent, Eltham, Croydon and South Godstone ... regular trips under the Blackwall and Rotherhithe tunnels and across tower bridge, pure magic, especially when tower bridge would open to let the ships through ... pure joy for any kid. As for the vehicles and empty-ish roads just brilliant ... a time we will never see again.
2:45 , boom boom boom boom Esso blue. filling up with paraffin for the heaters !
Yeah you can say that again, amount of esso blue, and pink paraffin I carried as a nipper is no ones business ... the garage felt miles away even though it was just at the end of our street, I am sure my arms got longer after each journey ... bleeding paraffin heaters, still its all we had back in those days, along with coal of course.
Martin Webb , if the bloody miners weren’t on strike !
And single glazed metal frames windows where the net curtains stuck onto the glass on the inside as they iced up in the winter. No central heating then in the house.
@@robflynn509 And a single coal fire that cooked your body front and froze your arse off as it sucked in a gale of ice cold air under the lounge door!
I was seven in 1964 and lived in west Dartford and so we often shopped in Crayford where the video ends. Fantastic to see Timpson's Coach Depot and then the entrance to Crayford Dog Track. I wonder if I'm in the film somewhere?
It is weird to think that London at the time of Jack The Ripper was safer than the London of today ! I wonder why that is ?
@@clairemcfadyen90 The Krays fought other gangs too, not to mention running extortion rackets and asking shopkeepers to cough up protection money. They were bastards!
@hangar2247 Yup, then what? Five more years of Conservative government cutbacks to our services? Havn't the working class had enough of looking up to these tory toffs and buying into their bullshit?
@@clairemcfadyen90 Well said Sir !
@@PlanetaryCitizen The Conservatives are the lesser of two evils, Unfortunately there is no viable alternative.
@@bigearedmouse17 I absolutely agree with you. If Labour are voted in we will have a Prime Minister who loves every country in the world except his own. A Chancellor of the Exchequer who cannot count. And a Home Secretary who wants to turn us all into communists.
It looks very tidy and orderly. i do find British towns that haven’t been destroyed by modern architecture so evocative. Love it. Bloody cold looking tho. And all the cars are British! Five years later the UK would be changing rapidly and industry would be facing death.
I was 2 years old then.The cars were much more interesting then.
Yup they're all designed by computers now and all look the same.
@@nicklive66 Yup, the cars were designed by humans. Broke down all the time and if you hit something you died, but at least they looked different ;-)
All modern cars now look like miniature spaceships. Yuck!
@Charles Nelson thank you SO much for your reply. We Brits often say a car is 'interesting' when it's a potentially lethal rustbucket, appallingly designed, bugger all passenger protection, poorly built and prone to things like brakes being virtually non-existant. We call it 'sarcasm' (pronounced 'sar-caz-um') and is part of our famous gift for British understatement. If you want examples, think Vauxall back axles, Rover camshafts and virtually anything from British Leyland.
But don't be afraid to get back to me if you need help on how to patronise someone effectively. Perhaps a bit of help with the correct use of an ellipsis? Always keen to help with things your teacher didn't cover.
@Charles Nelson there you go. I knew with a bit of effort you'd get the hang of it.
Has anyone else watched it to see if they recognise any roads?
At 4:27 it cuts to Crystal Palace Parade heading from the Anerley Hill end towards Forest Hill; half way along a bus (NO. 3?) emerges from College Road, crossing towards Anerley Hill (that junction now has traffic lights) past the Shell Garage (still there) and then cuts away at 4:51
Looking back now from a Britain stuffed with jams and ruined by overcrowding, this does bring feelings of nostalgia. But you can't blame the politicians for everyone wanting to use a car - you probably can blame them for not providing better public transport and safer places for children. When this film was made, children could still disappear on their bikes in the morning and come back in the evening and no one batted an eye lid. It riles me that this is no longer possible, and there is precious little public objection to it. A race of mindless car commuters has been bred without a care in the world beyond their own convenience. Serves them right they have to sit in jams so much.
This film does not show the stink made by traffic then, nor the dirty, low-paid jobs most people had to do, nor a class system that was even more obnoxious than it is now.
The section from about 1 minute 30 seconds shows Redhill Town Centre, then Hooley, then Coulsdon Town Centre. All on the A23.
Thanks, thought I recognised Coulsdon.
Yes I recognised those shops on the right and the houses opposite - Brighton Road, Hooley.