Wilbur FREED Tommy From Dream FOR GOOD! DREAM SMP
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2022
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Wilbur's genius. Ffcking genius. The writing's genius, and it really shows how much this tall man worked hard on this. The manipulation, lying, all for the sake of Tommy. It was quick for him to realize that Dream couldn't kill Wilbur since he's like his trophy; he's one of the first ever person to be brought back from the dead through the revival book, and Tommy because he has attachments to Dream and he could still use him, that is, unless he's dead. That's why in exile, he ensures Tommy won't end his life, when he beat him to death he revived him, and when he came back, he assured that he'll be revived over and over, because him being alive is important to Dream.
And Wilbur has to end that..and no not by killing Tommy, but the pathway of Dream's strings towards the kid: the discs. I was amazed that Wilbur pulled a risky move there though, what if Dream never actually cared if Wilbur dies or not? But there he was, making himself burn in lava to show he's no bluffing, and Dream putting the fire out shows that he needs Wilbur. Tommy had to be ignorant so he won't mess up the plan, the only thing he could do for Wilbur was to give his prized possessions and his trust, without having a complete knowledge of the plan.
Wilbur still risked that, all of it, his life was at risk. Need I remind you that most likely he doesn't want to die again, being in limbo for too long made him realize that he should have appreciated his life better, regardless whether it was good or worse. He's scared to go back to that train station, but still he risked his life for his sake, and for Tommy. So that in the end of this, neither of them will ever be manipulated at all by Dream's strings.
Dream could have let Wilbur die, Dream could have not followed Wilbur's orders, Dream could have not burn the discs. This is Wilbur's gamble, and luckily, he won. They both got out of Dream's strings..for now at least.
And also, am I the only one that thinks that the discs just need to go? As much as they're really important to Tommy, these discs bring nothing but trouble and the cause as to why Tommy and Dream fight in the first place. As much as Wilbur assures Tommy that Dream has zero control to him anymore, as long as that discs exist and can be taken..regardless how little it is, Dream still has control over Tommy. What if Dream realizes that the discs were fake? Wouldn't that mean the discs are still out there, and a sign that he could still manipulate Tommy with those someday? Things might be calm for now, but someday, Tommy will mess up and reveal that he has those discs still, and Dream can take that as an advantage. And how Dream operates, that occurrence will be certain.
Ya know... I was thinking about what will happen next like... What if Dream appears at Tommy's house at night to kidnap, torture, manipulate him and to cage him in the prison after finding out that the discs were fake? I pray that there would be an SBI lore or I'm going to have a bad time
I agree but could dream have not just revived him again if tht happened and take disks from his corps lock tommy in prision as he was vulnarable and he did not so either will was lucky or will and dream planned this like will helps dream by i dunno how probs something related to las nevadas and dream frees tommy from his string like something like tht as it seems more plausible or lava is a thing tht if u die by u cannont get revived that is why dream was scared
@mari covert I agree I hate those disk if tommy destroys them he would be free
Tommy's discs symbolize his heart. And Wilbur letting him keep them is him understanding how much they mean and telling Tommy that he is allowed to be as emotional as he wants (because Tommy's always been someone driven by his emotions, willing to risk his heart for others). So that's actually huge, specially taking into account that Wil didn't know how to apologize. He isn't dismissing them as unimportant like others have and Tommy finally has them back, not to being taken away.
I don't know how this will develop exactly tho, since it's been established by ccWilbur and ccTommy that they're ending their lore soon.
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@@thejavs6706
It's so hard to understand C!Dream.
You don't know when he is winning or losing!
Is this the whole C!Techno's ''This guy is with me, Dream.''
''Are you sure, Techno?'' (We thought he meant 'Are you sure you want to do this?')
And then on Doomsday, we realized that C!Dream had all the cards and only let C!Techno think he won. (C!Dream meant 'Are you sure Tommy is with you?')
I was NOT expecting this to happen whilst Watching the Stream. I mean, Wilbur LEGITIMATELY BEAT DREAM AT HIS OWN GAME!! Its like something in him snapped when he found out what Dream did to Tommy. This Stream was Absolute Insanity. I can even hear the Legitimate Fear in Dream's Voice as Wilbur was commanding him to complete the final demand. And I love how Wilbur thought ahead when it came to the discs because he knew that if Tommy was told that the ones he threw dream were fakes, it would go to shit. The only way Dream would believe him was if Tommy believed it. Smart move Wilbur. I’m calling it right now, this may setup a redemption arc for Wilbur when the time comes.
I didn’t hear fear in Dreams voice, I only heard surprise and shock for the most part.
@@user-cx9un9fs7q if you listen closely, behind all that shock and surprise, Dream sounds terrified. I instantly caught it because of what Wilbur said. Because he knows what makes Dream tick from the inside out. More control. and Tommy being one of the few people who are scared of Dream, frightens him because he is loosing all that power. Wilbur gave Dream a taste of his own medicine when he forced Dream to burn the fake discs.
@@sky_walker_1235 I was stating he sounds more shocked and surprised then scared to me, I was a little vague with my words and that’s on my fault.
So yes I also caught onto the fact he was scarred in this moment but I was simply meaning that he sounds more shocked and surprised then scared. I have very bad English and often over exaggerate things that shouldn’t be over exaggerated such as Dream having no fear in his voice.
@@user-cx9un9fs7q Ah. Gotcha.
@@sky_walker_1235Well I hope you enjoy the rest of your day,
"And I, Dream, was and always will be a little green b!tch" still sounds better to me.
Yes, Wilbur you do the planning, great job but let Tommy do the roasting that's his thing
I thought that was what he was going to say, was really disappointed when he didnt.
@@ShadowIsABaby mabye wilbur is more civil that that i guess
@@christinek232 what? Relevance to my comment?
@@ShadowIsABaby Wilbur didn’t choose it because he was more civil than Tommy?
Boi if Minecraft players could hug of give firm handshakes that ending would be the moment to do so. I can't wait to see someone make an animation of this so I can really experience the full range of emotions expressed throughout this lore arc.
I literally said out load give him a hug or something when it ended
I can’t animate but here’s how I would do it:
Tommy is following Wilbur, tears in his eyes as he rants and rambles and rages, just wishing to punch Will in the face. Will opens the chest, we get a close up as he pulls out the disk. Cut back to Tommy as his eyes widen before the disks come into frame, Will’s hand firm and steady. Tommy looks down at the disks then back at Will, looking to see if it’s some kind of trick. He takes them and we cut to a close up of Will’s mouth as he says “You’re free.” Cut back to Tommy, his neck and arms with luminescent green strings that snap and crumple. Tommy, with wide eyes, now crying just looks at Will. Fade to white. After a moment of white, it fades to a pastel, dream like sequence with Will walking towards the bench, being led by Tommy at the start of the SMP, when he was just a dumb kid with some disks and friends. Young Tommy fades away as we see, sitting on the bench is modern Tommy, holding the disks on his lap as he stares off into the distance, us only seeing his back. Wilbur smiles. Cut to a flower, a cornflower (because it makes blue dye which is Ghostbur’s blue) softly blowing in the wind, Wilbur’s feet in the shot as well as he says “You’re a good kid, Tommy…” we hold on that shot for a bit, Will’s feet eventually walking out of frame and all we’re left with is the flower.
Also! as soon as Wilbur pulls out the disks, I’d want the song “You must carry on” from Omori would play
SAD-ist:*Writing intesifies*
@@judgmentalanimal you should do it!
I was thinking the same thing lol
Tommy is truly a ,canonically ,a person that has a childish mind that will threw everything away for a symbol he believes in. Despite others trying to convince him that it is not worth everything. But damn they really has a very good improve script
They aren’t given a full script just some of it so when dream showed up Tommy just had to be in character even though he had no clue that the disk would be burned before the stream started making the reaction feel as real as possible
I can say this now after this stream, I love cannon Wilbur. He’s had his ups and downs and even had his arguments with Tommy but the fact that he still won’t let anyone hurt tommy regardless, is just very wholesome.
Not to mention he was willing to go back to limbo just for tommy, and he hated limbo
SUCK IT GREEN BOYYYYYYYYY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YESSSS SUCK IT GREEN BOYYYYYYYYY
Wilbur has balls. He would actually have killed himself if Dream didn't burn those discs.
He beat the green demon at his own game, and managed to remove the threat of him in Tommy's case. Damn good writing
Way too easy, and positive.
Good things don't just happen on DSMP.
Especially to C!Tommy.
Is this C!Dream letting them think they won something again?
@@jeckjeck3119 possibly
That was amazing
yeah bit it's only a matter of time before he knows since he has some people on the inside like foolish and punz
high risk, high reward.
Wilbur shows that on another level
Can we talk about how wholesome it was to see Wilbur and Tommy dancing to Cat at the beach?
Ikr it so wholesome
i pyschically left this fandom
but i didnt mentally
so i came back to just watch this
lmao
Same i relate.
Dsmp storyline is actually pretty good but the only bad thing is the fandom man
@@turaychu This. Literally fr
@@turaychu this statement>>>>>
Same , Lol
This was just wow Wilbur did the one thing dream never thought about ever I'm shocked, impressed, and scared for a moment there but when Wilbur said "they were fake one's Tommy" I was completely speechless and glad dream has no more control over dream that dream doesn't even control anyone anymore wow
OK wow how did I get 150 likes so fast
Or that is what C!Dream wants us to think again.
Not the first time he pretended to lose.
@@jeckjeck3119 maybe dream has something more up his sleeve that everyone doesn't think about not a revival book but dream secretly planning something bigger than lmanburg I'm thinking dream has a plan that would be way too big for everyone Idk what it is but he said that was his home meaning wait he wouldn't do what I'm thinking he would need enough gunpowder to destroy everything but not the prison I may be over thinking this but I think dream gonna destroy everyone homes and I mean everyone besides dream but like I said I may be over think bc if dream can't have control anyone what if he destroy everything but that's just a theory
@@grimreaper6896
Assuming the control is what he wants at all. I am 69% sure his plans have something to do with D XD.
@@jeckjeck3119 well like I thought if he can't get what he wants what do you you think he'll do after that just saying
I loved when Tommy and Wilbur were dancing, it really reminded me of old lore, like Tommy and Tubbo lore. When there was nothing more but Tommy, his best friend, and his older brother having fun. When there was no, pushing people off bridges, mind controlling omelets, revival. Just when there was some happy dudes having fun.
THE ONLY PERSON HE STILL HAS LEFT IS RANBOO because ranboo is still scares of him and also the fact that he still needs to be revived he can still manipulate ranboo
Ghostboo doesn't want to be revived though.. meaning that there's not a lot of stuff dream could do to stop him.
@@basketballaholic_5818 he does now you're not caught up in the lore in short he wants to be revived because he realized how horrible limbo for ranboo is and was searching for ways to be revived he can also communicate with ranboo through a book plus the fact that he is fading away
@@amagicalbeing7427 right so I haven't been keeping up with the lore I see
@@basketballaholic_5818 plus Ranboo and Ghostboo are alternate people like how Ghostboo and Wilbur are.
@@jamiegenlix8613 yeah well I was aware of that
When Tommy said "this is like a beach party" it sounded like healing, and maybe a bit of forgiveness. Wilbur messed up, and he hurt Tommy, but he also indulged Tommy in his 'silly' little party, something Pogtopia-era Wilbur would not have done. And his actions healed one of Tommy's many wounds, a small wound that some would call inconsequential, but was no less important to Tommy.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but when Tommy did something childish in exile, wasn't one of Dreams lines "Wilbur would be disappointed." or "Wilbur would never have put up with this."? Cause if so, Wilbur just snipped that puppet-string without even realizing it.
11:03 I know this is canon but I’ve never seen Wilbur this angry
I thought that Wilbur will backstab Tommy again when Dream burn his discs, thank goodness those discs that got burnt were fake ones
The homeless Teletubby has a home,,, he has become too powerful
👁️👄👁️
I hope this is an end of an era. I hope the discs won't get mentioned again. Because Wilbur and Tommy are free..
Unfortunately at some point dream will realise that he was given fake disks.
@@ShadowIsABaby Yeah True.
@@ShadowIsABaby i don’t think so - tommy did say that he wanted to kind of leave the smp, he wanted his character to have a happy ending.
@@mara__9740 Dude. He can still have a happy ending. He just needs to give up those damned disks.
@@mara__9740
Happy ending in DSMP?
...Sounds weird.
No, one gets happy ending and therapy.
This is DSMP, not some Riverdale BS.
Dude, Finally!
It's been one and a half years since we've been missing the good Wilbur that he used to be.
Let's be honest, we all thought there would be no more hope for Wilbur to be back to his normal self, we thought he's gonna be a bad guy forever.. but this stream finally prove that point wrong, Thank God.
I absolutely loved this lore but it is kinda sad that this is the end for tommy's and wilbur's lore however seeing that it had a good ending made me happy
Oh it's not the end trust me
The disks are still here. As long as they exist, qnd as long as Dream, Tommy, qnd Wilbur are alive, it's not the end.
Probably though. Wilbur and Tommy both stated that they're lore will son come to an end and that it will have a good ending. This is what makes me think that
@@shroomily possibly. It will be kinda weird if they just fully become irrelevant though. Tommy is basically the closest thing the SMP has to a main character.
Wilbur is a smart guy
*Intense lore happening*
My mind: Why was dream having a Tea Party 💀
My mind: Who was he having the tea party with? Punz?
I think he may have been referring to that thing where he goes into Sam's cell to give Sam food, make Sam dependant on him, and tell Sam what an awful person he is as a "tea party"
Wilbur is an absolute genius, let’s just hope Dream never finds out that Tommy still has the disks, that would definitely not go well.
I love how it started with a few friends starting a server then a child joins and then more people join, a small fight that could easily have been resolved starts and it turns into one of the biggest fandoms with amazing lore.
WIlbur is selfish, but not a narcissist. He cares for those around him even if not fully being able to show it and with his cunning and intellect, on par with that of Dream's own, he defeated him for Tommy, and, on a lesser note, for him.
Tommy is childish, but not exactly stupid. Though hurt at first, he understood his older brother did a good thing to protect them, and he trusts him even more.
Dream is a megalomaniac, and he'll give everything for the power he so desperately wants. Even if it's power over Tommy, for he believes he can find a way to control him again.
It's so fitting that Tommy wanted the name of the book to be Independence or Death which is what Wilbur said to Dream when he started L'Manberg.
The part were they started dancing at the beach with one of the disc playing made me cry because Tommy got the beach party he wanted 😭😭😭😭
Holy shit.. most of that was VERY unexpected, yet SUPER SMART! I was unsure of where this was going, but kept some trust in wilbur as i watched it play out. When i saw the ender chest at the end, it clicked to me that the discs wilbur used were fakes. When he explained his plan, i was left speechless with how good the writing is
When I got the notification for this I misread it because it didn't show the full title, I thought it said "for the egg" instead of "for good"
You’ve already been influenced. 😭😭😭
@@queenofdragons_1244 Nah, i haven't. I'm pro-omelette and have been for along time. *So i hope i haven't been influenced*
The emotion in Tommy’s voice sounds so real
The discs should have actually been destroyed. Honestly, I want Phil to be the one that tells Tommy to destroy them for good. He might even pull an ultimatum in which if Tommy doesn't destroy the discs within a week, Phil will never protect him from Dream again.
I know I'm late and I might be wrong but I don't remember a time Phil protected Tommy from dream ever
@@madelynscorner when Tommy was running from Dream when he broke out of prison, Phil immediately jumped to Tommy’s defense, crossbow out and all. But now that you mention it, DSMP!Phil honestly does not really feel like a dad at all. He feels more like a distant, rugged, and cynical mentor to the cast than an actual father figure.
Dream 1: oh no, I cant believe he done that... (depression)
Dream 2 : So.... He start his own game huh? (Proud)
Dream 3 : Welp, if he won't play nice... Its only fair if I do the same (Angry)
Dream 4 : Welp, already know it's fake, let's continue with a plan shall we?
what are you even talking about. bruh
@@shapeswitch_mood7221 dream's thoughts when wilbur burnt the discs. he's either sad proud angry or just knew all along that it was fake
They should have named the book…. “SUCK IT GREEEEEENN BOOIIIIIIII”!!!!
Dream, Tommy, and Wilbur deserve awards for that amazing performance and for every single one that came before.
I love how wilbur is carrying hamburgers in his off hand
Their acting is getting way to good. HOW ARE THEY SO GOOD!?
Doesn't this make you want somebody to animate it and make it look
7:17When will got on the 2 blocks higher than dream this piped into my head “ I have the high ground Anakin”
Hollywood: "We make the best movies and shows!"
A Minecraft Server: "I'm about to make Hollywood irrelevant."
12:40
Tommy: don't you ducking speak to me .. don't you come with me ... don't you speak to me any of you..
Dream: I guess..
(Is this a sign that c! Dream will meet c! Tommy again? Oh god ..)
I cant wait to see how the lore will go later on. I feel like Dream ddefinietly knows the discs are fake [His made fake discs before and he can tell real from fake easily] , and I feel like he realised that c!Wilbur told C!Tommy that the discs were real, I feel like he still got duped by Wilbur still was able to see through the main plan as a whole and has something cooking up for later on. And even if he has no clue then there still is the fact that the discs weren't the only thing giving him power over Tommy, he still can use Wilbur as leverage or for a favour.
CC Dream and Wilbur said on their reddit about how one of the reasons Wilbur was revived was to torture Tommy. Wilbur claims this is important. Which is why I think it may come back into the story later, whether dream wants to torture wilbur to hurt tommy or if he gets wilbur to hurt tommy indirectly with some sort of deal or so.
C!Dream though may think C!crimeboys had a falling out considering he sees C!Tommy have a break down and snap at c!Wilbur so he might not even bother trying to sepearte them (IF that even was apart of his plan) He may try to get the favour from C!Wilbur with the thought that C!Wilbur cut ties with C!Tommy and then be surprised that he still cares.
I'm not sure but I'm excited for whats to come later on!
im sooo confused, idk if this’ll be the end for tommy and/or wilburs lore. I’m not sure about wheter I trust Wilbur or not tbh- I just expected a bigger event for smth like this. it just seems so- argh idk
Tommy did say he was gonna kinda leave the smp. He wanted to give his character a nice ending
@@atiredweeb8551 i do know, and i hope he really got his happy ending. im just sad the smp might end bcs i rlly enjoy(ed) the lore streams and (lore) events
@@atiredweeb8551 Didn't Wilbur say that he was gonna quit or whatever the SMP? Or did I miss something? Is Tommy gonna quit the SMP as well?
its not the end. Tommy confirmed today that theres more lore happening. It woudlnt make sense for it to be the end as well since the arc isn't wrapped up yet.
- Dream would know the discs are fake, and he probably figured out that wilbur told tommy that they were real
- Even if he didn't know, whos to say he wouldn't follow wilbur and tommy secretly to find out more
- Dream has power over Tommy without the discs
- Dream has been hinting at a bigger plan for a while now
- Tommy wants his character to have a happy ending, the ending here is more like bittersweet considering that Dream is still around.
- Dream has been recently trying to make more friends, an dif you notice a lot of characters have started sympathizing with him, it seems like its building up to - everyone thinks dream is a nice guy except for tommy, quackity and some others and something will happen with that probs
@@bethanysingsmrs849 oh tysm! Seems to evolve into smth bigger..
I'm a bit confused on why Dream cares in the first place that Wilbur dies. Dream initially revived Wilbur to fuck with Tommys head which worked for about a month but then Tommy and Wilbur became good friends again. Dream also revived Wilbur expecting him to be in his debt and that he would follow him which was also true for about a month until Wilbur stopped caring. Now Dream has found out that Wilbur and Tommy were working together to do something against him which means to him that his initial plans with Wilbur won't work anymore. Wilbur claims that he is Dreams "project" and that he's his "shining beacon" when all Dream did was revive him and no longer gave a shit about him. Dream had to choose either Wilburs life or the discs which is the most easy choice for him and for some reason he burnt the discs. Maybe I'm missing something here and this isn't even factoring in that Dream could just revive Wilbur after he died but this is such a weird stream in terms of story.
Maybe Wilbur dying means he doesn't work with dream or maybe a person can choose not to be revived. I guess that is weird.
If Wilbur kills himself the message is broadcast across the server. Another anounxement to the world that Dream doesn't have the power he wants others to think he has.
If he let Wilbur kill himself it would tell the whole server, even with the book, he is powerless and it would break what few strings he still has on others.
@@Blitzwaffen Are you talking about the literal death message in chat or that Tommy would spread the word on what happened? In the case of a literal death message, they've been confirmed to not be canon multiple times with an example being how people only knew about Tommys death when Sam told them rather then when they saw the death message. I still don't really think people would lose their fear of Dream if Tommy did tell everyone though.
"Hey guys, Wilbur tried to get Dream to burn the discs and was threatening that he would kill himself if he didn't, Dream didn't comply and Wilbur died."
That doesn't make Dream look less scary, sure he didn't physically kill Wilbur himself but he would be known as having caused Wilbur to die. Plus, if Dream wouldn't revive Wilbur then he would effectively have the discs since the real ones would forever be in Wilburs enderchest and both Tommy and Dream believe that the discs Wilbur gave are the real deal.
@@WhatIsMyLif3 Dream already found out that Wilbur would probably not be working for him whenever Dream saw Wilbur working with Tommy along with Wilbur making demands. Also if people could chose not to be revived then Tommy would be dead right now and Ghostbur would be alive still.
Poorly planned and coordinated writing
This is so sweet, them bonding 😭
Big Bro wilbur❤
Ok ok so yeah I'm watching it loving it right? When the portal goes out and Tommy asks if wilbur has a flint and steel wilbur goes right into his inventory and hovers over one and says "no".... what's that about???
Like was that canonical wilbur did have it or a oh it was in my inventory and it isn't really supposed to be for the story?
I think it was a plan b
I don't think it would help them to get what they wanted from Dream. It would help them escape, sure, but then what was the point of calling Dream in the first place?
I don't think it was a mistake, because otherwise he could have throw it away with other "usless" stuff before going in.
So unless this was his plan B, and he didn't want to tell Tommy about it just yet.
He had to sell the lie
2 brothers reunited at last.
With the truth revealed and the mask lifted.
A curse from the past will not be repeated.
tommy the next time he streams lore: DOBBY IS FREE
When Wilbut said fucking, out loud in front of my father, my father didn't do anything.
I have been blessed by the gods that I didn't get my ass killed
I didn't watch the entire stream but this is a fan fave moment from Wilbur ngl
Wilbur was legitimately genius that seen in prison got my heart racing
Sheer genius. I had to watch it again because I missed him turning the game off for a moment. His camera goes fullscreen and we think it's for dramatic effect and NO ONE in the comments was suspicious!
This seems to be one of the few dsmp accounts that doesn’t clickbait and is actually making quality videos
Wilbur's acting never fails to amaze me, this guy is truly an absolute genius
THE 1000 IQ PLAY BY WILBUR!!!!
"You're a good kid, Tommy."
The amount of love Wilbur has in his eyes for tommy even when acting is astonishing.. I wish my friends looked at me like this.😍💜👍
Tommy's acting is just insane, I thought it was real for a second
2:48 AWH wilburs hiding his mouth HES SMILING GET HIM SIMPS!
tommy has a bit where he Humed bUT IT WAS SO GOOD
The fact he lied about having flint and steel mad my stomach turn. 6:09
The way tommy voice was very serious. He was acting is such a good way. His voice was so monotone
Tommy: *yells please tell me you have I flint and steel
Wilbur staring at it:no
So can someone tell me why the disks mean so much to Tommy’s character?
They're one of the first rare items he got on the SMP, and over the course of the story they've become symbols of freedom and strength to them, since he won them from Dream after he stole them (repeatedly)
@@jamiegenlix8613 they symbolize his heart and soul.
@@jamiegenlix8613 tommy is a child . if you got rid of something from a child even if it's silly it means the world to that child
C!Tommy's disks matter to him in primarily two ways: As a symbol of his attachments to and connections with L'manburg and the people he's loved and as a rebellion against the idea that's been hammered into him time and time again: everything ends and caring about pets, people, ideas, or nations will always end in pain and will never be safe. Granted, symbols derive their meaning from the things they symbolize and are generally not as important as what they symbolize. Nevertheless, preserving them can maintain hope that the things they symbolize can be preserved or even gotten back. C!Tommy can use all the hope he can get after having (at least temporarily) lost connection with everything and everyone he's ever loved. The disks help him believe that he doesn't have to become apathetic, that he will someday be safe enough to have pets, a house that doesn't get blown up every so often, families that will find their way back to each other after getting shattered again and again. Who knows, maybe he can even have a nation that doesn't get blown up until it dies it's third death! Hope that helps!
At first it was because they were rare items that he found on the first days of the SMP, but now they mean so much to him because they symbolize freedom and strength to him, and he can't let Dream have them.
"I did this for you." Is such a raw line after it was all wrapped up.
So I'm just watching the video and I didn't see the stream, did Wilbur actually open the ender chest to store the discs in transit? Cause if not then he's done a double deception, he tricked Dream into destroying Tommy's discs, and he's tricked Tommy into thinking the counterfeits are the real disks.
Yes, he gave Tommy the real disks. You can tell if you watch the whole vod. When Tommy gave him his disks Wilbur put down an ender chest and turned off the screen for a bit to put them away.
@@user-dg3qb5gj3r But that's just it. If he's turned off the screen, we have no way to know which ones were real or fake.
To my knowledge the real disks never had fact names or changes done to them.
It almost feels like the moment is left to viewer assumption of the disks Tommy got back are real or fake.
@@Blitzwaffen
But he left the game sounds on. If you listen carefully at that moment, you can hear how he opens the chest off screen. Why would he even make unnecessary movements when we know that Tommy himself didn't notice that and thought that they were real until the reveal? Why would he straight up promise Tommy that he will hide his disks in his enderchest in the first place? It literally makes no sense for him to do that. He clearly doesn't care about the disks. But he knows that Tommy does. And he cares about Tommy. Every action has to have its purpose. So what would he even gain from lying about it? Literally nothing.
@@user-dg3qb5gj3r people in chat spoil and and spy all the time. If he didn't use an ender chest people would be shouting that that he still has the disks. If they didn't hear a sound it's the same thing, if he left video people would be shouting about the duplicates and would track where the real ones were or not.
The entire story is built because the audience is unreliable at keeping a secret, but at the same time the narrator himself is unreliable. Whatever Wilbur promises or how he acts to Tommy now, we have Tommy's account of how he was in limbo, along with his destructive spiral before his death. Nothing he's done screams trustworthy.
Now, it's very clear he did something nice to help tommy. But being helpful do want mean he was being truthful about any of everything. A fact which is supported by him hiding the screen before accessing the end chest. Sure it makes the ruse even more exciting for the viewers, but taking away our knowledge of what is true or known, means we have to go by his words alone.
@@Blitzwaffen
Again, every action character does has to have its purpose. What was the POINT of him faking it? He would not gain anything from it, and he knew that.
Literally the ONLY time he did hid his screen was when he swapped disks, and it was intentional for the viewers experience with not knowing what was really going on until the end. And that's it. Also, some people in chat actually figured his plans out from the beginning based only on that.
If you rewatch the vod and listen to what he says about his plan, you will see that he was being clear with his plans from the start. From the beginning, he told Tommy that he would put his disks in the enderchest as soon as he gets them, and he did just that. He promised Tommy that he would get his disks back right after they're done, and he did return them after. He promised that Dream won't grab a hold on them, and in the end he didn't even got the chance to hold them.
If you actually watched his previous lore streams, you must know that currently he is trying to make things better (not always successfully, but he is still trying). He is trying to give people closure and fix his past mistakes. He hasn't really done questionable things since Ranboos death, which affected him greatly. And as much as some people liked to scream that he is "manipulating" in the chat, after he just answers a question with something that was already established before. I understand why some people still not willing to trust him.
You said it yourself, no one is a reliable narrator. No one is truly a villain or a hero of the story. Everyone has a reason for what they're doing. So I don't see what would be the point in double swap if it directly contradicts his character at this moment.
In the end all of that hiding was just for the viewer experience.
God dang my heart. That was so unexpected Wilbur is a fucking genius. No one saw it coming man that hit like a truck
Am I the only one absolutely loving the revivbur skin?
NOPE
Nah
Wilbur to Dream: "I am 4 Parallel Universes ahead of you!"
The technos wither item almost made me cry
I love how happy tommy is 😊
DUDE IM FREAKING OUT OVER WILBUR HOLY SHIT
IM GONNA CRY IM GONNA OMG
OMFGGGGGG
IM GONNA FANGIRL OVER THIS 😍😍😍😍
Nah because it took me a little too long to get through this video- I cried so many times, then I had to stop when they were all yelling because I can't deal with shit like that. ALSOOOO the fact that I relate to C! Tommy doesn't help ONE fucking bit at all. I'm just glad that they're free and everything-
This video felt longer than 15 mins, thank you for the amazing editing AngryThomas
Here's what I'm sooo confused about
Why does dream even care about Wilbur killing himself? Can't he just revive him again?
Well reviving has to have some kind of side effects, and surely they can’t be unlimitedly revived. Also dream needs a body to revive ppl, if Wilbur burns himself alive- there will be no body.
@@ShadowIsABaby that makes a lot of sense!! If there's no body, he can't revive anyone. He revived Wilbur because of ghostbur, revived tommy because he beat him to death and still had his body cause it wasn't y'know exposed of. Idk if they ever said that's how it works but it makes alot of sense since Dream wouldn't care and call out Wilbur's bluff if he could simply revive him again. He didn't because Wilbur's body would have burnt to ash.
@@sandwichboi6610 i think wilbur has confirmed that thats how it works
@@ShadowIsABaby I just never heard of it, I never thought about it much. So this changes completely how I see this video y'know. I am a bit too emotionally invested in this block roleplay lol
@@sandwichboi6610 lmfao
I’ve got a feeling we’ll see more lore in the coming weeks than we did for the past year…
I cannot WAIT for people to animate this
OMG LOVE THE MUSIC
I SAW THAT STREAM, IT WAS THE BEST
Wilbur is suck a ffcking Genius!!! I saw this on the stream and I wasn't expecting the ending, it was so Ffcking amazing
petition for sadist to animate this (and the first part w/ the exile thing)
Rip techno
я съел карандаш от волнения пока смотрел. Для меня эти 14 минут прошли как 30, это шикарно. Боже, как же я люблю взаимодействия Уилбура и Томми. Мне насрать на то, что это не канон, но для меня они братья
DOBBY’S FREE-
AGUHH THIS HURT
the acting is so freakicng good and like the way they just had a little dance on the beach its just so hhh
the feelings are real
This was one of, if not, the most poignant moment of the lore. The brotherly love 😭
This is almost make me cry
When Wilbur said: he knows that I am forever in his dept, until about 20mins ago.
I just starting laughing about how fast and how funny that was.
i acct cried durning this bit 2:41
The way Wilbur said shut up and shush to tommy💀💀💀
6:38
“😼GET BACK IN THE PRISON😼”
Cant wait for sadist and other animators to animate this, holy crap it will probably be insane.
Thanks for these vids jon. Or john
Wilbur: I don't have flint and steel
Me: Constantly seeing him have Flint lol
TOMMY'S ACTING GAVE ME CHILLLS
Wilbur is like Tommy's older brother
They are some hell of some good actors these guys
I think dream taking will captive and keeping him alive and using him to get to tommy would be a good story line
That time Wilbur manipulated the manipulator.
I'M TALKING ABOUT CHARACTERS, NOT REAL PEOPLE, JESUS!
Holy crap, Wilbur.
The amount of determination in wilbur’s voice to avenge tommy is powerful 😢