Scams Of Indian Education, Engineering, Job, Salary & Unemployment - NAMTECH | FO 225 Raj Shamani
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:39 - Scams of the education system
11:00 - Importance of the manufacturing industry
16:16 - How Singapore improved their economy
20:02 - Why engineers are regretting their degrees
23:01 - How Harvard professors spend their time
26:31 - Engineering colleges are shutting down
27:37 - Why Indian colleges are ranked poor globally
29:10 - Why MIT has been no. 1 for years
30:42 - Technical engineers moving to non-tech jobs
34:01 - Engineers doing MBAs
34:42 - Industry making the job market unappealing for students
37:49 - Why the system is so outdated
39:56 - Engineers lack people skills
41:50 - Is a BTech useless
45:12 - 5 skills to get a high paying job
47:12 - Guaranteed placements is a myth
47:56 - How to properly negotiate your salary
50:20 - Why people go for brands with less salaries
52:08 - His journey in engineering
58:38 - Thank you!
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In today’s episode of Figuring Out, we have Arunkumar Pillai in conversation with Raj Shamani. He is the Director General at Namtech, he is an Ex-CSO at NSDC, and Partner at EY.
When it comes to knowledge of engineering colleges, career development, and similar topics, he has some great insights to share.
In this episode, we talked about why the Indian education system is always questioned, why our GDP is increasing but our average individual net worth is not increasing, and why 40% of engineers remain jobless every year. We also discussed how Singapore grew its economy, why many engineers regret after doing engineering and what is the major difference between top engineering colleges and average engineering colleges. We then talked about why 2500+ colleges have shut down in India and why many technical engineering students go for non-technical jobs.
Towards the end, we talked about why many engineers don’t even get a basic standard salary, how Namtech's 12-month program is different, and how it will help engineers build better careers as engineers. We then talked about the top 5 skills people should learn to get high-paying jobs in the future and how candidates can negotiate their salaries better. For such insightful conversations, don’t forget to subscribe to our channel.
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All engineers give attendance here😂👇👇👇
Future 😂
😂
Karo Ke Nahi
Iitian
Present sir😂
2 things missing in our education system
1: Education
2: System
Actually it's 3
Third is Indian 😂
More than that the syllabus is periodically not updated based on market needs...
every podcast you are seeing with people are from this education system
Biggest issue is even in 2024, education for us indians means rote learning a bunch of facts. We need to change and overhaul the system completely, which itself will take a lot of years and manpower.
It's high time to reform the Education System
people do engineering just to realise what they actually want to do in their life😅
Exactly 😂
😂😂 whn u r about to graduate u become sure that u actually never wanted to become an engineer
I am in my 4th year btech, I still don't know what to do. And I hate coding (which is my branch).
😂😂😂
@@Z-trantiawhich college bro
Bhot bada scam hai....indirectly middle class ko fir se backward krne ka
Explain
@@chanakyabhakt Just google it and you will get lot of research paper and thesis with complete negative and positive impact.
Wrong! Galat!
Education fraud & scams se middle nahi, puura desh backward hota hai! Check the education system of developed vs. developing/garib desh.
Sone ki chidiya kyu bola jaata tha. Mughlo ne university & mandir kyu jalaye
@@anupjain7457 Thats true. I gree to the point, what you have written here but my point is that, high cost plus scam in both condition they are playing the dirty game.
@@anupjain7457 independence k baad agla 5 Education minister musl!m ko bnaya, if you know you know,, to glorify mughal slaughterrr and oppressed real Education..
Arun is a passionate visionary in the skill education space in India. You can hear him all day long about education, inefficiencies and how it should be solved. This discussion is such an eye opener. More power to him and others like him who can bring the change.
so glad you liked our guest! stay tuned for more.
@@rajshamani Great question about branded company or startup first. Very well researched
Engineering is the best education because it builds character.
I would rather discuss politics with an engineer than with a political science graduate!
@@bobsinhav 😂😂😂
Experiences in LIFE and Exposure a person goes through builds CHARACTER ....not Engineering. it's just a Education Degree.
@@pratiktembhekar1996 I am not talking about ""semester syllabus". I am talking about environment we get in engg college😂😂
By spending 15 lakh & 4 years..😂😂
missed terms in indian education system
1.education
2.System
3.Indian
My son has a 95% in 10th ,rather then doing 11th & 12th( we presume it is a waste of time) we decided to go IGTR for doing 4 year diploma where students are getting industry ready by handing latest machines with advance technology , later on for doing graduate program we have decided go to Taiwan or Germany for further study to be the domain expert ( doing 11th , 12th + 4 year of engineering is really waste of time , money & energy ) manufacturing sector is changing very fast in india and all multinational are setting up there manufacturing facility in india , trust me guys we need good engineers and technocrats too.
I am electrical and electronics engineering student I have done my diploma also in same branch. I struggled lot to make my Career progress and today I am energy analyst. The thing I told you this because I am diploma guy with engg and very good at lab but only thing maths was not my cup of tea and 11 and 12 students also used to study with us and don't know to do labs practicalynand they were good at maths. I used to this how these people get job but when placements started these people used get the job easier even they they don't know anything in practice but me not used get it the irony was due to maths . So want to tell you that not our education system even our hiring system is not correct. Today I am energy analyst and solving problems that good in maths people can't solve and maths is not everything that companies need to understand. Some good at maths but not at work no one checks on this part.
thank you for sharing this!
Kha bhi chale jao employment nhi hai or sasti hiring hai.
I totally agree that 11-12th + 4 yr btech is wastage but problem yeh hei ke cheeze itni simple nhi hoti jitni kehdi jaati....Bina itne bade convinced vision ke cheeze karna bhi bewakoofi hojati hei....I hope ur path works it sounds logical but with experience I can say the world at tymes is not logical.So, let's wait & watch package kitna lagta hei...
@@santoshukarde one life is not enough to get success 😂.
Hi Raj, please make a podcast with Nambi Narayan sir. He can put his more perspective in education system as well as research.
Bhaiya, please make videos on Importance of MSME, because there's a big difference between MSME and so called STARTUP.
He's soo soft-spoken
wise and experienced people are often very soft spoken.
yes, he was so humble and polite 🙌
Raj shamani sir please invite communication leader, CEO of global career hub delhi Yogesh Chaudhary sir , education counselor, it's beneficial for students, students don't have guidance to do study overseas, just a suggestion
The problem with core engineering in our country is that no comparable opportunity is available here & so engineers begin to think that when my peers from CS or IT back ground are earning handsomely and living good life then why should I not. So they shift to other domains b cos of lack of comparable opportunities.
Raj shamani is far better than Ranveer allahbadia
Bro both are very good in their work
People in other countries majority of people do engineering by choice due to their interest and passion in the field. Here in India we do engineering just to get a bachelor's degree with no interest in the field and samajik pressure.
5:42 As of May 2024, India's GDP per capita was $2,730, China's was $13,140, Singapore's was 88,447 and the United States' was $85,370.
India mein engineers produce hi nahi hote, these all are aspiring software developers. No body takes core branches which are actually engineering branches because there is no job market and our beloved country is not ready set up more RnD institutes and pay them handsome amount
Now I feel happy that i took admission in NAMTECH
I'm also planning to take admission there which course you are doing
Unemployement is the major outcome of overpopulation . I still remember those ads in early 90s on DD channel where they used to say hum do humar do but we still didnt follow that.Citizens are equally responsible for this mess.At the end of the day government didnt ask our forfathers to have so many kids .
Unemployment is the major outcome of lack of job creation due to lack of development of labor-intensive industries due to lack of reforms in labour, land, education laws due to lack of will/ability of the government to reform these laws
@@Zak-qh5tb Over population is also one of the major reasons.At the end of the day all the resources are limited. Current birth rate of India is still more than the birth rate of China in 1991which is most industrialized nation in the world
@@maxmin1234 There are certain regions on earth which are only deserts with no water nothing and there are giant cities there with millions of people living and progressing because their governments have a will and capable people in charge. They lack food and water in a desert to support huge population so what their governments do they bring scientific innovative technologies to solve their issues and move forward. Our people are the best in the world at finding reasons to justify our current terrible condition. If you have a huge population, us this as a advantage by giving them basic manufacturing skills, bring in large scale labor intensive manufacturing industries to generate huge employment but all we want to do is just blame our people and not incompetence of government.
@@Zak-qh5tb Those region countries population are not even close to our top tier metro population so again the population is very low & since you have the low population you will have lots of resources for everyone & in any case they had huge oil deposits which they haven't got due to their hardwork or talent. It's just a natural resource which is very costly
@@maxmin1234 As I said we are the best at making excuses. You are telling me our giant country which is basically a continent doesn't have one city, not even one city which is in the top 10 in the world in terms of quality of life, ease of business, corruption index performance etc. I am not asking you to show me 10 Indian cities I am asking just 1 city. For example take Varanasi with population around 3 million, which is around rank 30 in India in population and is not even in top 80 populated cities in Earth, has our full government support, financial backing due to being a sacred city, still one of the worst cities in terms of pollution terrible civic sense poor waste management noise pollution etc. If that is how badly we treat our sacred city then I can only say it is incompetence because surely our government and people have intention to make the sacred city the best in India.
Amazing Podcast . I want you to make more podcasts on the skills that students need to learn side by side their college course which are very important if they have to stand on their own in the market for a better Tomorrow . So someone who could guide on that how can we learn those skills on our own .
I wanted 15 skilled graduates and was not able to shortlist even 5 for UK based company in Punjab. I interviewed so many graduates in their respective fields , but was not able to offer job. As most of the students said , we don't have any skills other than this degree. Degree I just consider as piece of paper in India from most of the colleges. Our students need to trained or at least educate in such a way in India that they think different or you can say critical thinking and analytic thinking. I can go to china and get skilled work force in 2 days and same time if I come to India , it will take 6 months to find someone and start production. Even Vietnam is able to provide the skilled labor now. If industry is moving out of China, it is opting other countries like Vietnam or south Korea. India have a opportunity right now but it's loosing on that. Why would industry come to India ?
I love that this podcast focuses on skills for the future. As someone without an engineering background, I'd appreciate episodes tailored for people like me who have a general education but are eager to develop technical skills. Thank you!
Bhai very good Podcast
Mazza A gaya
very Informativ
glad you found it helpful!
@@rajshamani Plz! Sir Can you bring guest on Cybersecurity ??
Hi Raj, pls make a podcast on what students can do after their 12th apart from software training. I mean what are the different streams available to pursue a career. Like how to get into manufacturing engineering and what are the colleges available in India. Hope you will do one please ....
Thanks for putting the question
And ur doubts as straight as u can ..it shows the authenticity
thank you!
@@rajshamani ❤️❤️
Inspiring. Please see if you can cover something on Indian law firms, their business model, attrition rate, issues faced in building and expansion, etc.
Great eps RAJ being an engineer turned entrepreneur truly agree ❤
more power to you man, stay tuned for more!
Great episode with Arunkumar pillai sir! Could you invite a construction industry specialist to discuss why employees often don't get a minimum bare amount of salary, especially as the industry is booming?
Hi Raj... thanks for the podcast your podcast are always very insightful
thank you, means a lot. More to come 🚀
Hello there, Now I studied engineering in my final year, and this podcast helps me a lot in gaining skills and knowing what is currently going on in the IT industry and what I need to do for a job.
Excellent communication ❤❤❤
Do podcast on Indian education system and foreign education system and difference between them. And what opportunities in foreign
How to start business a average student with full potential of business mind
Our education system needs to be changed, I have been saying that for last 15 years since I came back from Australia after finishing my studies there. Once I came back I felt strongly, that we needed a change in the education system.
Super insight into Indian scene..thank you. Good ad for Namtech guys...batchs start in Aug !
manufacturing hai to india me ..besan k pakode..aate sooji k golgappe...chai( dolly etc.) matthi...poori sabji ..tikki..vada pav girl ....btech gol gappa .....samosa...chaap and much more....sab thelaa lga to rhe hai..is se upar koi soch hi nhi paa rha...aur soche b kyu jb unko usi me accha income hai ..kya gdp k baare me sochega wo
Why don't you start small manufacturing unit
😂 but hey its manufacturing
PLEASE MAKE a video on architecture industry ,no one talk about on this topic people don't known architecture and architects problem .
Good knowledge given thanks.
Nice explanation.
As this government moto is to take India as the emerging country with good economy but how are they
As they are not focusing on the root level (schools ,colleges )they should change the system
7:05 50k iits???? atleast get the fact right not more than 18k seats in iits and if reservation is taken 9-10k max seats
25k bola hai
I think he meant to say IITs+nits and tier 1 colleges
Bhai Sports, relationship, health related podcast Karo ...
raj bhiya plz make more podcast on future job
Thank you Raj for getting him on your show.
Some times i criticize you and some times i appreciate you.
Take both the situations in a positive way.
True sir i saw the namtech it is very beautiful and creative
Hope this conversation changes my own journey and approach
It was a great podcast, I really learned a lot from this thank you ....
Indian should break down its to smaller coutries with sit and talk with all states and make Indian Eunion states or United states of India
It's very knowledgeable podcast. 🎉
glad you think so!
Fabulous podcast. I never loved being an engineer. I’m a creative director now. Wish I had done something related to art back then, but I utilise the technical knowledge in shooting. Well spoken and great insights by the guest as well. Kudos!
glad you found the episode valuable 🙌
Please do a podcast On our education system and what changes to be needed and why it's not done yet?
Happy seeing ur growth in content...by passing days 😁
it’s all your support, stay tuned 💯
@rajshamani Is there any space in your podcast for BFSI guy.?
Has someone talked about Manufacturing....❤❤
Engineering is mugging up thousands of concepts in one time and write in exams ..that's it only...that's why it is boring
Bhai mai 4 saal civil engineeer kaam kiya aur field hi chod di. Mera salary tha 16000 after 4 year in Kerala. Now doing job in some other field and earning well 😆😂
Abe tu psu mai ja sakta tha agar padhai kari hoti
Bhai kis field me job kr rahe ho aap...pls suggest.
@@LearnoPhile-xy8omgetting into psu requires rank under 100 it's very tough ,
@@LearnoPhile-xy8ombhai psu wale jyda chemical ko lete hai mechanical aur civil ko bht kam
Education System ko Change kaise kare us par Podcast banao
👍
Parte to ho nahi kya fayda
Nice conversation... 👍
1:46 and many engineers cant evn code prperly
That the reason i don't like to go engineering colleges for degree.......
i actually like to observe thing, and how the machine or technology work, but our teacher are themselves only doing teaching rather than intense research and teach student how should we do research..........Most of time between 9 and 12, i had asked my teacher out of box they just reply it's not in our syllabus.....so we don't need to study those things.......do what i told😢😢
A second perspective is what my teachers told me about.
Indian engineering is better in a way to make your future outside the country.
Why ?
Because in the first year we are taught the basics of all the branches. So we know something about the branch. Whereas this is not the same thing for other countries. They study respectively about the branch they selected.
So I like this about the Indian engineering system.
Very though provoking discussion 🎉
thank you 🙌
Such a wholesome and informative podcast ❤ keep bringing in such great thinking people who will really contribute to the nation
for sure, more is on the way 🚀
3 things are missing
1. Quality teacher's
2. Education
3. System 😢
Raj ur doing very god job through podcast each topic is really amazing , all podcast video of your channel i seen. It is really amazing ❤
thanks for all your support, means a lot!
Podcast on Basic indian education system ❤😊
make a podcast on Reason of disappearing engineering jobs in core branches( mech,civil,elec.)
Hi Raj,
I always watch your long videos as soon as i get some idle tym.
can make any video for people who want to export and increase the scale and etc related to exporting.
Thanks
Your Subscriber
This is one of the amazing podcast I ever heard about the technical
education.
I have a new perspective that we have we all young minds to be a problem solver .
great takeaway! thank you for watching 💯
Guest voice is too low.
Have to strain to hear Guest speaking.
Half of the interest is lost due to Guest low voice.
Being soft in speaking is different but low in volume or not audible is different.
Yeah... Even his communication skills needs to be reviewed😂😂
I was waiting your video !
Make a video on indian agriculture and how the farmers can export there product and earn from cross border
Please make a podcast for non engineering students
33:37 sentence truly correct in all Indian companies.
we want a podcast on automotive industry and racing
bring some topics of restoring the ecosystem
It's not just system problem.
Same desi students studying masters in US universities still have "jugaad" attitude. Get max GPA by hook or crook, even though companies here don't give a f about GPA.
straight forward, to the point
yes!
Raj sir - this is episode was perfect face of engineer.
Can u bring marketing person please for interview- it’s toughest job. Skills of engineer product - marketing is must .
This good eye opening for the #Modi education polciy
PLEASE GIVE TIME STAMP OF QUESTIONS IN DISCRIPTION. WE WANT TO SEE ONLY RELEVANT PART.
I have a great idea for a startup in agriculture and sustainable sector
Please bring someone to talk on today's problems of students nd how to tackle it. For eg- distraction, sleepiness while studying, less exercise, incorrect body posture, loneliness out of home when in pg, alternatives of costly healthy food when living in hostel, reduce stress while preparing for exams etc
His Marketing for Namtech is good.. but as far as fee of their "1 year" program concerned, equal to 3-4 times the 4 years engineering course offered by IITs!!!
always try to do improve our skills and completely focused on it you will defenatly grow up.
exactly, well said💯
Real challenges in employment...
This video is very very useful
Engineering me 4 years waist krwate he collage wale sidhe four year ka experience de do tu koi bhi berojgar tu rhega hi nhi and new innovations ke sath some people apni khudki companey build krni strength rkhta bcz unke under potential hoti he us time ye mene personally feel kiya he but family problem ki wajh se mene apna startup nhi kr paya mere ideas pe but one day i work myself idea and iam sucessful ❤😊
Wonderful sesion
thank you🙌
Raj Bhai, if someone is doing well in the hotel industry then bring them in so that we can learn something better from them. I have made a very big plan.
I want to make some improvements in the hotel industry, so that you can create a better hotel industry in India and our India can progress, I need your support Raj Bhai
Plz plz 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bhai Manish poddar ko kab bulaoge ..
sir thanks for bringing this amazing podcast i have a person in my contact who is helping people to build community business in india like china his name is sanjay kumar sharma founder of imsuprans channel
Make a podcast with purely emphasize Research, Development and Innovation. Try to bring industry experts, researchers and professors in a single podcast for the same.
about the insights of the BBA MBA
Main reason is growing population...so tell to your consumer how to control population
Superb podcast
thank you!
Let me share you my story in brief-
I passed my Diploma in 2011 in Civil engineering , got a job in private sector then I went for graduation in the same stream but then I was not getting even 15000 per month then I need to "switch my stream" and went to a company which was in india but was based in London who provides not only more salary as a fresher but also provides allowance, incentives, perks, performance incentive and many more
And I was thinking of serving my country deep inside so I left it one day and now i am earning decent amount " In an Indian company" but no perks and no allowance and complicated incentive scheme which is hardly possible .....
So Yes Education system sucks - I can not use my technical skills now ........ I don't know what to do now for better performance already in my 30's
Top skills in demand
45:18
We cant only blame the education system, we should be willing to learn skills on our own that schools fail to teach
Try to get afgoradable education from current system. Improve yourself then you can improve your life
Pls make subtitles in english it will be easier for regional languages persons
We need to get education experts and officials from countries like Singapore, Israel, Japan etc and have them overhaul our entire education system! I don't think we can do anything ourselves, given the challenges we face............
on the interview - more could have been discussed about namtech instead of Education System - I watched the entire conversation and at end find that he has a solution!!!
on the Education System of India ----
Reality:
Government related - NEP 2020 Policy is not a rule; Employability is not yet anyone's mandate (NHEQF has just released a draft)
Parents and students - see it as investment, want to maximise earning... mismatch (both horizontal and vertical) in job is allowed... so, civil, mech engineers ... are doing something else, most of the times software development
Teachers - how many have industry exposure? are they updated? are they willing to redefine their role - include employability as their objective if not mandate?
Institutions - show mismatched jobs as placements - most of the placements are different from the training they gave, - do they pay their teachers on par?
Employers - how many are willing to give internships, training to their employees (WIPRO is an exception to my knowledge)
Students - how many students are committed, discuss their score patterns, % on time course completion, how many want to work in our country? , how many are willing to work for lower salary, have our engineering students compared with the medicos, CAs or lawyers?
So, my questions are:
1. Aren't good students getting employed? - they are getting employed.
2. So, whom are we expecting to anything about this? Whom are we talking to? if you say scam - can we spot the scammer?
My perspective - we (Indians) do not share the responsibility. Our attitude towards country, education and work are NOT aligned towards country's future... there is a need for discussion country wide to solve... bring in alignment...
What I agree - the moment is ripe for disruption.. , four-year rigorous experiential programme,
Ek advice chahiye, jyada samajhdar lgte ho
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