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Amy Chua - Political Tribalism and Identity Politics

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  • Опубліковано 23 бер 2020
  • Amy Chua is the John M. Duff Professor of Law at Yale Law School and the author of several books, including her most recent: Political Tribes: Group Instinct and the Fate of Nations.
    Chua is also the author of World on Fire: How Exporting Free Market Democracy Breeds Ethnic Hatred and Global Instability; Day of Empire: How Hyperpowers Rise to Global Dominance - and Why They Fall; Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother; and co-author of The Triple Package: Three Unlikely Traits Explain the Rise and Fall of Cultural Groups.
    Chua began her career by clerking on the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit for Chief Judge Patricia M. Wald. Chua practiced for four years with the Wall Street firm of Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton, where she worked on international transactions throughout Asia, Europe, and Latin America. In 1994, she joined the Duke University Faculty of Law. She joined the Yale Law School faculty in 2001. In 2011, Chua was named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people, one of the Atlantic Monthly's Brave Thinkers, and one of Foreign Policy's Global Thinkers. She also received the Yale Law School's "Best Teaching" award.
    Chua is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School, where she was executive editor of the Harvard Law Review.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @ylyl7118
    @ylyl7118 4 роки тому +14

    This needs more attention than this level. Strange it's not viral yet.

    • @dabidoe
      @dabidoe 2 роки тому

      critical thinking cannot go viral because virality requires an idiot level of thinking

  • @imaison8
    @imaison8 3 роки тому +5

    I really appreciate this talk and resonate with her suggestions. Professor Chua is a better speaker/presenter here than in interview format.

  • @josephl9619
    @josephl9619 3 роки тому

    just posted two criticisms but i love amy chua - and it is another great speech. Thoroughly enjoy listening to her

    • @fatheadsnake
      @fatheadsnake 3 роки тому

      Same, I have a few criticisms too, but overall she was a great speaker

  • @viciouswheelmansweightofth8510
    @viciouswheelmansweightofth8510 4 роки тому +3

    The US Declaration of Independence has the answer to fixing the harmful affects of tribalism. A government by active consent of the governed that uses just powers from individuals to secure inalienable rights. A major problem is when government is used to protect the market dominate minorities.

  • @tideliu
    @tideliu 4 роки тому +4

    Amy Chua believes that the root cause of the political division is the subgroup identity (coastal elites vs heartland american), yet she believes that the same subgroup identity (under the national identity) also cures the problem. What did I miss?

    • @CmacKw
      @CmacKw 4 роки тому +3

      She can see the problem but refuses to admit to herself the solution simply because she thinks she is right and everyone else is wrong, when in fact, she is one of the coastal elite. She also has no understanding of American history. The simple truth is in order to be a real American, one must first completely shed their tribal identity. There is no other way.

    • @shaynelin2660
      @shaynelin2660 3 роки тому +5

      You had the root cause slightly wrong and the cure totally wrong. In her thesis (I bought and read the book), the problem is tribalism, which is a part of human nature. Tribalism is to stick with one's tribe and not communicate with other tribes, which is different from the concept of tribes or, in your words, subgroups. She thinks the cure is communication among subgroups. Her proposal was not novel to me at all. In social psychology, it has long been found that communication leads to understanding that softens group division. Her argument regarding national identity versus subgroup identity is that for a nation to be world dominant, it has to allow both identities to flourish. This is argued in her other books. So to the other comment saying that the only way to be an American is to shed tribal identity is the total opposite of what she proposes. Throughout history, a great nation encourages subgroup identities while holds a strong national identity.

    • @CmacKw
      @CmacKw 3 роки тому

      @@shaynelin2660 You and her are entitled to your opinions, but the problem is Americanism at its core, requires one to renounce Tribalism, and assume the American identity. Furthermore, American Identity is embodied in, and dictated by the US Constitution. If one claiming to be an American can't do that they are simply pretending to be an American. Tribalism in one form or another is what she promotes, and by her choice of words, I would suspect it's because she believes it promotes her political views. And ultimately, her political views are feudal, racist, and fascist, which in the final analysis, all lay at the heart of Tribalism. As for great nations encouraging subgroup identities, I will refer you to the Dorian Spartans vs. Achaean Helots, Romans vs. Jews, Turks vs. Armenians, Germans vs. Slavs, Swedes vs. Lapps, English vs. Scots, Sikhes vs. Afghans, Japanese vs. Ainu, Chinese vs, Uyghurs; the bloody list is endless.

    • @TheAsianRepublican
      @TheAsianRepublican 3 роки тому +3

      @@CmacKw There will always be subgroup identities within a nation, as long as those subgroup identities do not supersede the National Identity. An Italian can be proud of his Italian heritage, but it does not supersede being American. But Liberalism does supersedes and undermine the National Identity by labeling America as the root of all evils in the World 46:22 , that Washington, Thomas Jefferson designed America to embody white supremacy. What does it mean to be American to embody American values, it means we value Individual Freedom, live and let live, You are the keeper of yourself, grit and grind out life as its presented to you, accountability, don't blame others for your failures, get up and strive forward, being repentant, forgive your enemies, don't hold grudges, judge individuals on their own merits, do not be envious... an American should embodies Judeo Christian values regardless of whether they are religious. Both can be true, you can be in many subgroups and identify with many subgroups and still be Nationalistic, as long as your subgroup identity does not seek to undermine America. Which is what is wrong with modern day Liberalism, it is un-American and anti-American.

    • @CmacKw
      @CmacKw 3 роки тому

      @@TheAsianRepublican Let's get real here, what we are calling a tribal identity, is not actually a tribal identity. It is either a national identity other than American or a larger ethnic/racial identity, which completely calls into question the researcher's ethics. The problem with her theory is she puts the so-called tribal identity (AKA race) before national identity which is ridiculous and morally corrupt. Obviously, she can't really care about either the so-called tribal or national identities; the former is simply being used as a wedge to undermine the latter. I agree, she is clearly anti-American and is attempting to use race to create a political niche.

  • @littlexin11
    @littlexin11 3 роки тому +2

    appreciate her effort to try to find root cause instead of just call people racist

  • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
    @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 3 роки тому

    starts at 5:50

  • @josephl9619
    @josephl9619 3 роки тому +1

    interesting that when she talked about the seperation of whites into two groups, she didnt mention Charles Murray. Too controversial? Surely he is the one who presented this thesis

  • @neilgriffin880
    @neilgriffin880 3 роки тому

    A lot of self-congratulations in this speech. Full disclosure: I am not politically (tribally) affiliated.

  • @dylanblack3279
    @dylanblack3279 3 роки тому

    I would argue that the chief divide is between multilateralists and nationalists in the U.S.

  • @hesperianscholar1481
    @hesperianscholar1481 3 роки тому

    The departure from civil rights 50 years ago to Tribalism is probably because of militaristic social engineering and a runaway bourgeoisie and private security industry generally facilitating their share of social engineering with the increase in technology. This is only my opinion.
    America is just f*cking up from the top. They are too militaristic, blinded by establishment politics, going down with the ship with capitalism and they think the world has changed (the world they inherited and did not really help create) so now today it is "okay" to social engineer everyone.
    Check out Margaret Thatcher as a precedent for this. Also WW2 Britain. George Bush and his entourage and Margaret Thatcher were in similar political camps.

  • @josephl9619
    @josephl9619 3 роки тому +1

    unfair to compare the usa's one percent muslim to frances 9 percent.

  • @stephenspackman5573
    @stephenspackman5573 3 роки тому

    I'm not at all convinced that this tribalism is inevitable-and the example of sports is telling. It's not an *accident* that Americans are such rabidly partisan sports enthusiasts; it's the result of marketing, and of the bizarre subordination of education to sports (and perhaps to some extent the excessive influence of local communities over curricula).
    This country needs a national education system, a federal mandate that allocates funding and expertise uniformly across all the students in the country, and provides a coherent, egalitarian, forward-looking, evidence-based curriculum; and it needs to abolish the current school sports culture that deliberately undermines the naturally collaborative and reflective world of academia with destructive tribalism.
    Kids can't grow up decent, sane and productive if they are educated to fight (and, dare I say, to cheat) instead of to think and feel.
    None of the current situation is an accident; it is the result of deliberate policy that could in principle-now that we have seen its terrible consequences-be reversed.

  • @PCH12r
    @PCH12r 3 роки тому

    milky toast

  • @MagicDragonKatt
    @MagicDragonKatt 3 роки тому

    What about the influence of social media, and people getting attention by getting to be pouty children spewing non-factual emotions?

  • @PCH12r
    @PCH12r 3 роки тому +1

    Again talking about Trumpism as some kind of maladie is deadly wrong attitude, it seems she positioning herself as sort of 'milk toast' critic, though I appriciate her effort. titular nation can be good term for her theory to prescribe American white elites with its healthy meaning

    • @saturupiah5940
      @saturupiah5940 3 роки тому

      Yep apparently women felt threatened under Trump?

  • @objektivone3209
    @objektivone3209 3 роки тому

    OMG she's just so interesting. Not. She's a cliché.