I think Ben Horne's relationship with Laura Palmer is similar to how Laura affects everyone else she comes into contact with. She was loved by everyone, so I think it was to show that her draw was so strong that she could even impression emotionless people like Ben. I don't think it was a traditional love he had for her, but an endearing one.
I liked the Confederate general sequence. It might be just a little bit too long, but for me it was really self-explanatory. Ben's will was obviously broken by Catherine bamboozling Ghostwood and the mill out of him. Then the whole arrest and detainment business and Leland's death certainly did not add to his mental health.
I never thought the "emotional problems runs in the family line" that Audrey says in the first season would come true for Ben until that sequence began. I didn't like seeing this fearsome, intelligent criminal reduced to goofy pathetic behavior, lost in a fugue state for so long. But great fiction is about characters that change over time I suppose. I recently rewatched El Topo by Alejandro Jodorowsky and it was incredible that a badass gunslinger changes over time to be a ridiculed panhandler by the end of the film.
Excellent analysis; Ben was my favorite character in the series and I remember my interest waning heavily during his Civil War general phase. It was clear the creators just didn't know what to do with him, and the arc just went on TOO long.
That time of the show was unbearable. We had the civil war and James' bike adventure happening at the same time. There were some good stuff of course like Denise Bryson and Ernie Niles. The pace was just unbearable.
I would really like to see an analysis on Hawk like this. Even if he’s the undisputed badass (other than the Polish “I move car” guy) and more prominent in season 3, I would consider Hawk the most unexplored of all of the central characters.
There's no real big mystery about why Ben said she loved Laura. It was just a plot line to make him the prime suspect. We don't even need to know more because of the next episode. About the photo-- we don't know if it was always sitting at his desk or not. Probably not. There was something genuine about the way he said it. The real relationship with Laura and Ben might be revealed in the new series.
I think the Ben/Laura relationship was going to be explored in Fire Walk With Me but Richard Beymer pulled out of it. There was apparently a scene where he was going to give her drugs.
I wish i could have seen that. I wanted to know more about how he felt about Laura. Did he have any genuine feelings for her? She seemed to dislike him pretty strongly.
Mostly very, very good. Kind of breezy though, in using "bromance" for the Horne brothers--Ignores some presumably deeper, not-so-nice bond in sexual violence from younger years.
Glad I am not alone in hating the Civil War thing. Otherwise, an excellent character. I don't think Ben ends as who he started as, though. Clearly, Ben doesn't quite know how to be good. He is trying, but it is all new to him, and with the issue of Donna being his daughter, he makes a big mistake in trying to be good by bringing up old wounds that can only hurt rather than help. Had season 3 continued back then, We may have seen Ben grapple with being good backlash on him. It's all a part of the learning process for him.
I think Ben Horne's relationship with Laura Palmer is similar to how Laura affects everyone else she comes into contact with. She was loved by everyone, so I think it was to show that her draw was so strong that she could even impression emotionless people like Ben. I don't think it was a traditional love he had for her, but an endearing one.
I hadn't thought of that Its possible he meant the general love everyone seemed to hold for her.
I liked the Confederate general sequence. It might be just a little bit too long, but for me it was really self-explanatory.
Ben's will was obviously broken by Catherine bamboozling Ghostwood and the mill out of him. Then the whole arrest and detainment business and Leland's death certainly did not add to his mental health.
I never thought the "emotional problems runs in the family line" that Audrey says in the first season would come true for Ben until that sequence began. I didn't like seeing this fearsome, intelligent criminal reduced to goofy pathetic behavior, lost in a fugue state for so long. But great fiction is about characters that change over time I suppose. I recently rewatched El Topo by Alejandro Jodorowsky and it was incredible that a badass gunslinger changes over time to be a ridiculed panhandler by the end of the film.
Excellent analysis; Ben was my favorite character in the series and I remember my interest waning heavily during his Civil War general phase. It was clear the creators just didn't know what to do with him, and the arc just went on TOO long.
That time of the show was unbearable. We had the civil war and James' bike adventure happening at the same time. There were some good stuff of course like Denise Bryson and Ernie Niles. The pace was just unbearable.
I wish some of that was hurried along or excised so we could get to the good stuff.
the civil war subplot is in general just stupid, and takes up uneccesary amounts of time, but I find that last scene pretty funny
I would really like to see an analysis on Hawk like this. Even if he’s the undisputed badass (other than the Polish “I move car” guy) and more prominent in season 3, I would consider Hawk the most unexplored of all of the central characters.
Ben Horney
love Richard Beymer. nice man and actor. my fave scene is when he sang together with leland.
Great actor, great human being.
i love ben.........
Great analysis.
Thanks!
There's no real big mystery about why Ben said she loved Laura. It was just a plot line to make him the prime suspect. We don't even need to know more because of the next episode. About the photo-- we don't know if it was always sitting at his desk or not. Probably not. There was something genuine about the way he said it. The real relationship with Laura and Ben might be revealed in the new series.
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It's Andrew Packard, not Andrew Martel. Remember "Martel" is Catherine's married name.
You're right, I got confused and forgot.
I think the Ben/Laura relationship was going to be explored in Fire Walk With Me but Richard Beymer pulled out of it. There was apparently a scene where he was going to give her drugs.
I wish i could have seen that. I wanted to know more about how he felt about Laura. Did he have any genuine feelings for her? She seemed to dislike him pretty strongly.
Mostly very, very good. Kind of breezy though, in using "bromance" for the Horne brothers--Ignores some presumably deeper, not-so-nice bond in sexual violence from younger years.
what makes you say that sexual violence was involved in their younger years?
Very well researched and written! Good job!
Part two for Season 3? : D
9:00 the age of consent is 16. That of course is not the age when any kind of paid sex work is legal.
Best tv show since I’ve been alive. 1981.
Just discovered your channel and videos. Excellent work and subscribed.
Thanks!
Glad I am not alone in hating the Civil War thing. Otherwise, an excellent character. I don't think Ben ends as who he started as, though. Clearly, Ben doesn't quite know how to be good. He is trying, but it is all new to him, and with the issue of Donna being his daughter, he makes a big mistake in trying to be good by bringing up old wounds that can only hurt rather than help. Had season 3 continued back then, We may have seen Ben grapple with being good backlash on him. It's all a part of the learning process for him.
Wait, I never even realized that Jerry was Luther until you pointed that out. I'm not sure why, but that blows my mind.
I can't imagine how much you must hate Dougie Jones xD
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And in Lost the character was also named named Ben!
Ben❤
Sully took a really hard hit to the head at the end of Commando
Are you going to be doing more Character Analysis videos leading up to the new season?
Yes I will. I'm not sure when they'll be out though.
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